Author Topic: Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (Read 19730 times)

Bebpo · « **Reply #120 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:46:09 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 27, 2010, 02:40:06 PM

The 5th dungeon boss is fucking insane. I've given him half a dozen shots and I still haven't killed him.

Welcome to when the game gets real
Outside a a boss or two, this is the difficulty more or less of the rest of the entire game

Get together some good demons with strong attacks, good healing. King Frost is almost a must. Don't worry about alignments at all for this guy.

archie4208 · « **Reply #121 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:46:37 PM »

I think I'll need to make a King Frost to finish the 5th boss. Which floor in the 3rd dungeon is the quest giver, magus?

Quote from: Bebpo on March 27, 2010, 02:46:09 PM

Quote from: archie4208 on March 27, 2010, 02:40:06 PM
The 5th dungeon boss is fucking insane. I've given him half a dozen shots and I still haven't killed him.

Welcome to when the game gets real

Outside a a boss or two, this is the difficulty more or less of the rest of the entire game

I am frustrated but I'm still enjoying it alot. I have tried about 4 different lineups and nothing has flown so far. Much better than mashing A for 40 hours.

magus · « **Reply #122 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:55:42 PM »

i already said it in the spoiler some post ago but anyway

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b2,there is a dark tunnel with two exit,one exit brings you to the room where you first encounter horkos and the other to the jack frost that gives you the quest

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Bebpo · « **Reply #123 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:59:21 PM »

Yeah, the challenge is the fun type. I really liked SJ because of bosses like this. This is why I said it was the hardest megaten since Nocturne

There was nothing on this level in P3/P4, DDS1/2, Raidou1/2. This is a real challenge with no easy solution and it's damn satisfying when you come out victorious in this fight.

archie4208 · « **Reply #124 on:** March 27, 2010, 05:23:42 PM »

Just beat him.

Then I met the first boss in the 6th dungeon and died because

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I was wearing armor weak to fire

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magus · « **Reply #125 on:** March 27, 2010, 05:36:30 PM »

ehy bebpo is there anything i'm missing with king frost? besides mediarahan i don't see any skills that is particulary usefull or any resistence that make's the guy worth... the ace frost/black frost combo seems like a better idea

Bebpo · « **Reply #126 on:** March 27, 2010, 05:50:01 PM »

he's the first demon to have mediarahan which is like one of the most essential skills. He also has good def iirc and tends to stay alive.

But use whoever you'd like. There are lots of good demons in the game.

Beezy · « **Reply #127 on:** March 27, 2010, 06:36:36 PM »

This game is so much faster and less tedious than the EO games. I love that I don't have to draw out the whole map myself and enemies aren't just static pictures anymore. I don't think I can go back.

Bebpo · « **Reply #128 on:** March 27, 2010, 07:06:28 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 27, 2010, 06:36:36 PM

This game is so much faster and less tedious than the EO games. I love that I don't have to draw out the whole map myself and enemies aren't just static pictures anymore. I don't think I can go back.

yeah

I don't think I could play EO3 after this. SMT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EO

archie4208 · « **Reply #129 on:** March 27, 2010, 07:14:03 PM »

EO feels like a giant grind with nothing to do other than killing. SJ, and SMT in general, is much more fun because of all the customability. I've probably spent nearly an hour just messing around with fusions and seeing what I can make.

Beezy · « **Reply #130 on:** March 27, 2010, 09:53:09 PM »

Did they purposely make the female demons confusing as fuck? Had a good convo, gave this broad my hp, mp, and a bead that I didn't even know I had, and the bitch still left. I can't even figure women out in a videogame.

magus · « **Reply #131 on:** March 27, 2010, 09:58:43 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 27, 2010, 07:14:03 PM

EO feels like a giant grind with nothing to do other than killing. SJ, and SMT in general, is much more fun because of all the customability. I've probably spent nearly an hour just messing around with fusions and seeing what I can make.

i've finished the original EO and i didn't finish EO2 only because my save went nuke (i was in the 4th stratum) there is some good rpg there but some decisions are just plain dumb,useless jobs,skills that break the game like immunize,sidequest that are pointless,ultimate weapons that pop's out during the middle of the game,all of these helps making a game that gets easier as you proceed instead of the otherway around! it's somewhat of a clusterfuck

Quote from: Beezy on March 27, 2010, 09:53:09 PM

Did they purposely make the female demons confusing as fuck? Had a good convo, gave this broad my hp, mp, and a bead that I didn't even know I had, and the bitch still left. I can't even figure women out in a videogame.

if you are neutral and asks a chaos or law demon to join you there is a chance he will flee even after negotiation,most female demon are either a femme,lady or night all chaos family

uh anyway i'm level 39,just a little push and i can summon king frost,my XP bar raises so slow it's not even fun! i have a shitload of demon in stocks but i can't fuse anything because every demon i could make trough fusion is like level 45

demi · « **Reply #132 on:** March 27, 2010, 10:00:54 PM »

There's plenty of room for both games. Enjoy sitting out...

Beezy · « **Reply #133 on:** March 27, 2010, 10:20:27 PM »

Quote from: magus on March 27, 2010, 09:58:43 PM

if you are neutral and asks a chaos or law demon to join you there is a chance he will flee even after negotiation,most female demon are either a femme,lady or night all chaos family

Smh, thanks. I didn't know about that.

Quote from: demi on March 27, 2010, 10:00:54 PM

There's plenty of room for both games. Enjoy sitting out...

No one said there wasn't, but Strange Journey handles some things better. I never even realized how tedious EO was until I started playing this.

magus · « **Reply #134 on:** March 28, 2010, 11:12:47 AM »

anyone figured the deal with toth?
he asks you to find demons and after you find that demon he gives you chunks of password... but where the heck are the other chunks?
also my last request was to find a demon with a pair of scissors but i haven't seen one anywhere
what's the deal?

archie4208 · « **Reply #135 on:** March 28, 2010, 11:14:20 AM »

Scissors demon = Atropos

magus · « **Reply #136 on:** March 28, 2010, 11:32:04 AM »

mmm i see i assumed it must have been a demon in sector C since the first two where in sector A and sector B respectively
also whoever designed sector E deserves a kick in the nuts

archie4208 · « **Reply #137 on:** March 28, 2010, 12:05:24 PM »

Sector E was awesome in a masochistic kind of way.

MoxManiac · « **Reply #138 on:** March 28, 2010, 12:26:30 PM »

I'm liking this game a lot more than Nocturne. Probably due to the emphasis on dungeon crawling. In Nocturne I found myself wandering aimlessly not knowing wtf to do.

archie4208 · « **Reply #139 on:** March 28, 2010, 07:25:22 PM »

Fuck Sector F's boss. I even tried to use an overpowered password demon and STILL lost.

Beezy · « **Reply #140 on:** March 28, 2010, 08:03:02 PM »

I'm only on sector B. You animals.

magus · « **Reply #141 on:** March 28, 2010, 08:20:36 PM »

i'm finaly out from that forsaken place
MOST
ANNOYING
DUNGEON
EVER
i had to fucking write a map on a piece of paper so i would stop walking in circle! that's how bad it was!
then at a certain point i tought i went inside every warp but still couldn't find the last thing i needed... the reason?

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THOSE BASTARD NOT HAPPY WITH HAVING LIKE 20 WARPS AROUND PUT A HIDDEN PASSAGE IN ONE OF THE ROOMS! OH AND THE NEXT BIT INVOLVE HOLES AND BACKTRACKING EVERYTIME YOU FALL INTO A HOLE! I EXPECT THAT THE NEXT DUNGEON WILL HAVE A TINY GNOME WHO WILL KICK ME IN MY NUTS EVERY 5 MINUTES OR SO

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anyway i reached the boss and since i realized i wouldn't go much far without hard hitting him,i leveled up to level 46 by soloing monster (otherwise it would have taken forever!) so i could get a demon with agidyne,i made an all chaos team and proceeded to mop the floor with him,then i noticed my alignment shifted to law
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH
no! i wouldn't take this shit!
i resetted and repeated the boss,this time i keeped my neutral alignment (by the way i just found my first chaos/law only piece of equipment but none of them looked particulary impressive,still the loot whore in me is a little saddened) the next bit is somewhat spoilerish so...

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"easy boss" i say
NOOOOOOOPPPPPPPEEEEE
now you have to fight the guy again! and he has a move that inflict random status ailment,and these include stone and bomb YAAAAYYYYY INSTANT CHEAP DEATH,WE MISSED YOU GUYS! it's like... it's not an atlus game without you guys,so anyway my current team can deal quite a lot of damage to him,especialy agidyne guy but they have a hard time surviving his death wave move,main character doesn't seems to take a lot of damage so maybe it's a physic move and i should try a physic resistant team (or better yet add doppleganger back on the team... but his stat sucks now and he's likely to die at the first hama :/) i could use king frost mediaharan but sometimes he goes after the boss so i still end up with dead guys,maybe i should get a anti-stone or anti-bomb ring for my character and just solo the boss if my team die,my character barely takes any damage so unless i get hit by annoying instacheapdeathtrademarkbyatlus i'm pretty safe

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archie4208 · « **Reply #142 on:** March 28, 2010, 08:40:49 PM »

Yeah. That dungeon was awesome.

archie4208 · « **Reply #143 on:** March 29, 2010, 12:53:34 AM »

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Tiamat

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is fucking ridiculous. Ughhhhhhh.

btw does anyone know of some good breeding/fusing/whatever guides? I want to get War Cry, Fog Breath and Acid Breath on a demon that is invulnerable to ice and I really haven't the faintest of ideas on how to do it.

Bebpo · « **Reply #144 on:** March 29, 2010, 12:57:12 AM »

I can't really give any tips as I got lucky with her and had just the right team and got through it on my first try. I know she gave some of the other import players a really hard time though.

Are you still neutral?

archie4208 · « **Reply #145 on:** March 29, 2010, 01:01:19 AM »

Yeah. My team right now is MC, King Frost and Gogmagog (reflects ice and has a lightning attack so he is awesome). I'm trying to figure out who to put in the 4th slot. Someone who reflects or absorbs ice and has some buffs/debuffs would be perfect.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #146 on:** March 29, 2010, 01:41:03 AM »

I really, really need to play more of this but it's so hard to yank myself away from infinite space. Hopefully I'll get back to it (only like four hours in) later this week.

archie4208 · « **Reply #147 on:** March 29, 2010, 01:51:48 AM »

Got her.

My party was

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MC, King Frost, Orcus, and Gogmagog.

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I spammed War Cry until her attacks did virtually no damage and just whittled her away.

That is why I love SMT so much. No substantial grindan, just a different approach.

Beezy · « **Reply #148 on:** March 29, 2010, 01:52:00 AM »

I should've known there would be pitfalls in this game just like EO, but I still raged when I fell through one for the first time. I'm done for the night. Gonna go play something simple like Kirby to calm myself down.

archie4208 · « **Reply #149 on:** March 29, 2010, 01:54:06 AM »

One thing I do dislike about this battle system is that physical special attacks now take MP instead of HP. I always thought that was a neat strategic element to sacrifice a bit of your health to do some more damage.

magus · « **Reply #150 on:** March 29, 2010, 09:05:02 AM »

i beated the 5th boss and reached sector F,i killed the boss with only my character standing and i got 4 level from the fight,after that i proceeded to special summon the boss i just defeated,i got lucky and i got resist fire on it so now i have a level 49 demon that's strong to almost everything

archie4208 · « **Reply #151 on:** March 29, 2010, 11:50:35 AM »

I just retired King Frost. What a sad day. :'(

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #152 on:** March 29, 2010, 11:52:42 AM »

No patch yet?

archie4208 · « **Reply #153 on:** March 29, 2010, 11:57:40 AM »

As far as I know, it works on some cards, but I actually bought this game so I don't know the whole story.

magus · « **Reply #154 on:** March 29, 2010, 01:13:24 PM »

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What?
JIMENEZ is evolving!
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
Congratulation your JIMENEZ evolved into CHAOSHEROBUGANEZ

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currently level 54 guess i'm not far from sector F boss?
i only need to

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kick asura v.2 ass

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EDIT: okay i've defeated sector F boss,it wasn't as hard as people here are making it...

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bought a ice resistant armor,a ring to boost lighting damage,brought king frost as a healer,a hel with a spriggan source fused on it which gave me both dekaja to counter her buff's and a lighting attack and another neutral demon which knew ziodyne,near the end the ziodyne demon died so i replaced him with oroborus which also known a lighting attack and that was it

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EDIT2: fuck i've just found gogmagog,previous boss should have been even more easier

FatalT · « **Reply #155 on:** March 29, 2010, 05:53:47 PM »

It works fine on my M3 Real. I'm about 7 hours into it and still on Section B.

magus · « **Reply #156 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:08:20 PM »

i think i'm getting further than archie

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Mastema: i'll turn into you into an angel
Zelenin:

*flash of light*
Zelenin: how do i look?

Me: where is the "like the biggest whore ever!" option?

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demi · « **Reply #157 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:15:08 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on March 29, 2010, 11:52:42 AM

No patch yet?

Most cards were updated, so yes its working on anything. Unless you're a loser who bought an R4

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #158 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:21:28 PM »

I've had my ancient fossil M3 Perfect since the dawn of the DS. Time to upgrade.

archie4208 · « **Reply #159 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:21:50 PM »

Quote from: magus on March 29, 2010, 07:08:20 PM

i think i'm getting further than archie
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Mastema: i'll turn into you into an angel
Zelenin:
*flash of light*
Zelenin: how do i look?
Me: where is the "like the biggest whore ever!" option?
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Been there, done that. I am getting kinda burnt out, though. I'm already at 40 hours played in less than a week, lol.

demi · « **Reply #160 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:24:15 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on March 29, 2010, 07:21:28 PM

I've had my ancient fossil M3 Perfect since the dawn of the DS. Time to upgrade.

lolz. Get with the times. M3 or Acekard

Damian79 · « **Reply #161 on:** March 29, 2010, 10:55:07 PM »

So i guess people are pirating this game? I guess a sequel is out of the question now because none of the casuals will buy this game either. Really sad to see only casuals buying games.

Ichirou · « **Reply #162 on:** March 29, 2010, 11:02:51 PM »

Quote from: magus on March 28, 2010, 08:20:36 PM

i'm finaly out from that forsaken place
MOST
ANNOYING
DUNGEON
EVER
i had to fucking write a map on a piece of paper so i would stop walking in circle! that's how bad it was!

I thought the game had an automap feature?

archie4208 · « **Reply #163 on:** March 29, 2010, 11:05:33 PM »

I did my part and bought the game.

Quote from: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 11:02:51 PM

Quote from: magus on March 28, 2010, 08:20:36 PM
i'm finaly out from that forsaken place
MOST
ANNOYING
DUNGEON
EVER
i had to fucking write a map on a piece of paper so i would stop walking in circle! that's how bad it was!

I thought the game had an automap feature?

It does, but it doesn't show where you jump to when using warp panels.

Vizzys · « **Reply #164 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:01:20 AM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on March 29, 2010, 07:21:28 PM

I've had my ancient fossil M3 Perfect since the dawn of the DS. Time to upgrade.

wait for the supercard dstwo http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=192112

Ichirou · « **Reply #165 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:01:52 AM »

What's better, this or Devil Survivor?

Bebpo · « **Reply #166 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:02:37 AM »

I haven't played Devil Survivor but I don't see how it can be better than this.

Vizzys · « **Reply #167 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:03:40 AM »

devil survivor is more of a strategy rpg

archie4208 · « **Reply #168 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:24:42 AM »

The 7th boss.

I figured her out on the second try, but that was a rude surprise!

Quote from: Ichirou on March 30, 2010, 12:01:52 AM

What's better, this or Devil Survivor?

SJ is much better. The story is uguu free and there is far more customability.

magus · « **Reply #169 on:** March 30, 2010, 11:57:32 AM »

there are... warps... everywhere... can't... take... it... any... more...

archie4208 · « **Reply #170 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:33:12 PM »

I just killed

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mai waifu ;_;.

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I died the first time because

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everyone was charmed and I thought I could kill her in one more turn so I used an attack instead of a bead.

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That didn't work out!

magus · « **Reply #171 on:** March 30, 2010, 04:28:32 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 30, 2010, 12:24:42 AM

The 7th boss.

I figured her out on the second try, but that was a rude surprise!

Quote from: Ichirou on March 30, 2010, 12:01:52 AM
What's better, this or Devil Survivor?

SJ is much better. The story is uguu free and there is far more customability.

i just defeated it and yea... it wasn't cool from them to do such a thing $:-\$

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girimekala made the fight 10 times easier

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anyway i need some help here... there are two door in grus area that don't open

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are these door alignment specific? what's behind them? does that mean i will never be able to completly map grus?

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also i think i reached the turning point

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i guess i immediately switch to chaos or law if i tell commander gore that demons/god are awesome? do i gain anything by such a switch? i really want to punch the guy in the face for being a huge jerk who deals 380 damage even when i'm wearing a physic resistant armor AND defending

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archie4208 · « **Reply #172 on:** March 30, 2010, 04:34:05 PM »

Your choice at that point determines the ending.

magus · « **Reply #173 on:** March 30, 2010, 05:08:30 PM »

sigh i hate this kind of stuff,i'm the kind of guy who loves to do everything so this really damps my mood $:-\$
still think i'll go neutral,you are doing neutral too archie?

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you win this round gore! you are lucky because otherwise i would have kicked your sorry ass!

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Bebpo · « **Reply #174 on:** March 30, 2010, 05:38:55 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 30, 2010, 12:33:12 PM

I just killed
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mai waifu ;_;.
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I died the first time because
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everyone was charmed and I thought I could kill her in one more turn so I used an attack instead of a bead.
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That didn't work out!

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That fight took me A LOT of tries. For me that was probably the toughest boss in the game. Kept getting charmed and destroyed.

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archie4208 · « **Reply #175 on:** March 30, 2010, 06:05:15 PM »

Weird. It was really easy for me on the second try. I just didn't act defensive enough the first time and got a few unlucky rolls.

magus · « **Reply #176 on:** March 30, 2010, 06:57:26 PM »

i'm doing some ex mission right now,i've missed a huge number of them

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if you talk to the guy in the deck he'll give you some mission,i always tought he was just a useless NPC $:-\$

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okay i'm having a problem with one of the ex mission...
i have to find a lilim,apparently it's in sector B but i can't find one for the sake of me... anyone remembers if it's inside the castle or outside it?

archie4208 · « **Reply #177 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:35:48 AM »

I was worried that the last dungeon would be a rush job. I am very happy that it is quite the opposite. If anything, it is the best dungeon in the game.

Personal rankings: (spoiler tagging just in case)

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8 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 1

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magus · « **Reply #178 on:** March 31, 2010, 06:18:44 AM »

you finished the game archie?

archie4208 · « **Reply #179 on:** March 31, 2010, 10:02:16 AM »

I'm very close. I have like two more floors until the last boss.

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Author Topic: Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (Read 19730 times)