Author Topic: Final Fantasy XIII bitch thread of NO HIMUROS (Read 6093 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **on:** March 10, 2010, 02:02:30 AM »

This thread is for me, Prole, slime, Stoney and whoever else to bitch about the game without Himuro jacking off in our faces

So, on a scale from ten to ten how much do you hate Vanille

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:11:17 AM »

twenty

Ichirou · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:13:08 AM »

Thread destroyed with the very first reply.

ManaByte · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:31:57 AM »

Himuro will never reach the Final Fantasy fanboy level of Patel. He shouldn't even try to argue the merits of a FF game against Patel.

demi · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:33:38 AM »

Coming soon: A new article telling undeniable proof that Vanille is in fact, dead.

iconoclast · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:54:35 AM »

I like Vanille.

Himu · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:55:28 AM »

Quote from: iconoclast on March 10, 2010, 02:54:35 AM

I like Vanille.

what

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:58:32 AM »

Quote from: iconoclast on March 10, 2010, 02:54:35 AM

I like Vanille.

do you also like aids

maxy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:17:00 AM »

Vanille:"aaahhhhhh,hihihihihihihihihhihihihihihihihihihihihihihi"

Bebpo · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2010, 10:58:43 AM »

Quote from: Stringfellow Hawke on March 10, 2010, 03:28:09 AM

Vanille is a 10 at the start, but reaches levels which scientists have not yet been able to measure.

This I agree with.
I found her nice at the start before she had DRAMA.

I am guessing the early hate of her is due to this australian dub they have given her.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:07:33 AM »

no, it's the flouncing and the attitude and the look and the fact that she is clearly and precisely designed to elicit moe sentiment from the lowest forms of male life on this planet

demi · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:09:04 AM »

Who do you like more - Lymle or Vanille

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:11:17 AM »

lymle

you're ahead of me, i'd been considering a lymle > vanille thread at gaf

Himu · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:27:20 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 10, 2010, 10:58:43 AM

Quote from: Stringfellow Hawke on March 10, 2010, 03:28:09 AM
Vanille is a 10 at the start, but reaches levels which scientists have not yet been able to measure.

This I agree with.
I found her nice at the start before she had DRAMA.

I am guessing the early hate of her is due to this australian dub they have given her.

What the fuck? No. She's horrible in the jp version too. Always giggling, always happy, when people want to kill them.

Himu · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:29:53 AM »

OH MY GOD. I'm watching a flashback between snow and serah. Serah just broke up with Snow.

Final Fantasy presents Cocoon 90210.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:33:05 AM »

Himuro, why are you posting plot details in my thread?

:points to topic:

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:33:44 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on March 10, 2010, 11:29:53 AM

OH MY GOD. I'm watching a flashback between snow and serah. Serah just broke up with Snow.

Final Fantasy presents Cocoon 90210.

Knock if off, dude.

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2010, 11:35:34 AM »

Requesting Himuro to leave the shitty gaf posts at gaf

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:13:52 PM »

I don't own the game and have no intent of playing it, but I saw this image and went WTF:

confused renfair disasters and some brother (himumumumu?) with a hilarious fro and some kind of fuzzy nub coming out of the top of his head. Is there a redeemable context to this image or it sort of the visual representation of just how badly tuned to non-FF diehard sensibilities this game is?

demi · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:15:08 PM »

I dunno, looks no diff than Dragon Age's cast, imo.

Bebpo · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:18:19 PM »

Yeah, that cast looks better than most of the rpg casts this generation, west or east to me.
I have no problem with Nomura designs. He is a excellent character designer.

I just posted something about this in the gaf thread, but I am getting the feeling more and more that people attuned to western tastes simply hate the unrealistic. They hate using their imaginations, they hate colors, they hate positivism.

Maybe this all stems from the western viewpoint that those things (colors, "happy" aka happy meal, dreams, fantasy, etc...) are all associated with "kids" stuff. And adults are looked down upon if they enjoy those. Whereas in Japan adults enjoy them just as much as kids and it's accepted as normal.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:25:23 PM »

I do hate the characters for being "unrealistic," because there's a big difference between "not ordinary" and "unrealistic".

Nobody would ever dress like those characters. Not as their everyday wear, not as their "funky style" clothes, not as their "costume" for monster slaying. There's no reason anyone would ever dress like that for any reason. The outfits make no sense and just looking at them makes me vomit. They're designed as ways to sell silver necklace accessories and cosplay fetishists. Vanille's outfit, in particular, with all of its rows of beads, is a cosplayer's nightmare/wet dream.

This doesn't have to do with kids/adults or positive/negative, it just has to do with "makes a single lick of goddamned sense" versus "I drew this on the back of a napkin in between sleeping with translators and now you guys have to model it."

spoiler (click to show/hide)

They do look better than the Dragon Age cast, though.

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Bebpo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:26:56 PM »

it's fantasy

Who says they have to abide by our concept of realism. They also grab magic dragons out of thin air and keep chickens in their hair.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:29:19 PM »

I expect even "fantasy" to follow some rules. Why is Snow dressed like an Urban Outfitters dudebro while Lightning is an asymettrical leather RPG hero and Vanille a Native American bead-top? What material are those clothes made from, anyway? And why do all the weapons collapse? The designs don't follow any rhyme or reason or culture or ANYTHING.

Love or hate the designs FFVII, VIII, and IX - the characters at least all look like they're from the same game. XIII's cast is completely incoherent.

Bebpo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:31:38 PM »

They actually make sense given who these characters are and what they were doing directly prior to their introduction in the game, but that's spoiler territory!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #25 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:33:24 PM »

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #26 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:35:50 PM »

At least Dragon Age's cast was internally consistent, with the exception of Morrigan where Bioware let the boob brigade get all stupid. People wore armor that pretty much looked the same and, well, looked like armor. Which made sense, because they were trying not to get killed while fighting things!

The characters here, from what I'm reading in this thread, basically are the designs that they wanted to have and don't seem to have any consistency in appearance between the cast members nor do they appear (again, from what I've read) to match any particular design aesthetic other than 'generic final fantasy'.

But I reserve the right to be totally wrong since I haven't touched the game.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #27 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:37:39 PM »

What's up with Vanille's accent, anyways? Sometimes she's Australian, sometimes she's New Zealander, sometimes she's US Standard.

She's always a bit simple, tho.

demi · « **Reply #28 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:38:34 PM »

Nobody's really defending Vanille, here

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #29 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:40:25 PM »

My officemate is complaining about how JRPGs always go "uh..." "er..." "eh..." "um..." "ah..." "oh..." etc.

he's like, SAY SOMETHING WILL YA

demi · « **Reply #30 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:43:28 PM »

Yep, that's Hope

Still High Tier btw. He is my lovechild from Snow

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:44:22 PM »

Even when you consider that the characters are all from different places, the designs still make no sense.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #32 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:44:33 PM »

Snow is kinda cute for a dudebro, plus his voice actor is Yuri Lowell/Kanji from Persona 4.

I wonder what he's hiding underneath that knit cap, though...

Bebpo · « **Reply #33 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:45:28 PM »

Quote from: demi on March 10, 2010, 04:38:34 PM

Nobody's really defending Vanille, here

I am, although I haven't heard her australian/english accent-morphing dub voice.

I don't think she's a great character, but I didn't have a problem with her until much later in the game. She was just a quirky, cheerful girl at the start and that was fully acceptable.

demi · « **Reply #34 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:46:14 PM »

Oh ok. Everyone is dying and exploding but shes like heehee. That's ok.

Himu · « **Reply #35 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:46:41 PM »

Bebpo, why do you keep bringing up Vanille's voice when the reason most of us hate her is her personality?

Everyone is dying, they're being chased and could be executed and this bitch keeps giggling. There's a difference between being optimistic and absolutely high on the giggles.

Vanille sucks.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #36 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:48:26 PM »

She's not "cheerful," she's mentally deficient. Her "positive" attitude is completely outside the norm of human behavior and she needs to get on the Short Space Bus to the Cocoon Orphanage for distinguished mentally-challenged fellow'cie Children, ASAP

My officemate did a great impression of her fist pump / head bob animation. God, DIAF Vanille.

Himu · « **Reply #37 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:51:04 PM »

Bebpo · « **Reply #38 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:51:17 PM »

Have you even thought that maybe she's not human and is a messenger of god brought there to guide these people and uplift their spirits through these dark times?

Bebpo · « **Reply #39 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:51:46 PM »

Well she's not, but imagine if she was. Then it would make sense!

demi · « **Reply #40 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:52:02 PM »

Now that you mention it, this is a Final Fantasy game. WOW THANKS BEBPO THAT EXPLAINS IT GOTY

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #41 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:52:40 PM »

If Vanille is an agent of God, I'm siding with the Devil.

dcharlie said it best - if I had a gun with six bullets and a Focus to take out the party members I hate the most, I would use all six bullets on Vanille then pistol whip her until her brains externalize.

iconoclast · « **Reply #42 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:53:01 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on March 10, 2010, 04:44:33 PM

Snow is kinda cute for a dudebro, plus his voice actor is Yuri Lowell/Kanji from Persona 4.

Aaaah, I knew I recognized his voice but couldn't place it. Awesome.

Himu · « **Reply #43 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:54:40 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 10, 2010, 04:51:17 PM

Have you even thought that maybe she's not human and is a messenger of god brought there to guide these people and uplift their spirits through these dark times?

That's just stupid. And yes I have, because it's so stupid it'd appear in an FF title.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #44 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:56:20 PM »

if she was actually a messenger of the gods she'd have brought along the Spirit Uplifting Song or Happy Smile Fireworks or something

I want a device that kills any JRPG scenarist who decides "people singing together" is a good plot device. I blame karaoke

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #45 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:03:56 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 10, 2010, 04:18:19 PM

I just posted something about this in the gaf thread, but I am getting the feeling more and more that people attuned to western tastes simply hate the unrealistic. They hate using their imaginations, they hate colors, they hate positivism.

Maybe this all stems from the western viewpoint that those things (colors, "happy" aka happy meal, dreams, fantasy, etc...) are all associated with "kids" stuff. And adults are looked down upon if they enjoy those. Whereas in Japan adults enjoy them just as much as kids and it's accepted as normal.

using your imagination? the game is so excruciatingly explicative in its detail -- characters, locales, text, and otherwise -- that there's NO ROOM for imagination! it's a fucking museum game; you wander halls and ogle other folks' artwork.

japan is in a permanent state of social cognitive dissonance. of course they prefer the fantastic and childlike; otherwise, they'd collectively commit suicide out of mass depression if the veil of oversaturated colors, childhood dreams, and half-naked loli tarts were ripped away from them.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #46 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:04:30 PM »

my actual working theory is that Final Fantasy "character designs" these days are just what Nomura wants to see the gals wear at Comiket

spoiler (click to show/hide)

and not wear in the "special interview room"

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #47 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:08:38 PM »

Nomura's a notorious horndog, sorry to shatter your gay fantasies

originalz · « **Reply #48 on:** March 10, 2010, 07:50:58 PM »

Anyone know a place that's selling the PAL version of the game online for a reasonable price? The usual import stores aren't stocking it. I guess I can run to Akihabara this weekend and hope they have it there...

originalz · « **Reply #49 on:** March 10, 2010, 08:35:10 PM »

Dunno, guess I only bring it up in niche threads like these, heh.

Ichirou · « **Reply #50 on:** March 10, 2010, 08:48:12 PM »

Quote from: originalz on March 10, 2010, 07:50:58 PM

Anyone know a place that's selling the PAL version of the game online for a reasonable price? The usual import stores aren't stocking it. I guess I can run to Akihabara this weekend and hope they have it there...

PAL version isn't compatible with JP 360s.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #51 on:** March 10, 2010, 09:01:08 PM »

what he hell i couldn't even stay awake through the first hour

i mean i love the shit out of every final fantasy game (except 2

) but this game seems like it might just genuinely suck ass. i'm basically gonna force myself through hours of bullshit just to get to that monster hunt area and hope i enjoy it. fml for real

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** March 10, 2010, 09:23:28 PM »

It gets better, dude.

bork · « **Reply #53 on:** March 10, 2010, 09:57:36 PM »

Quote from: originalz on March 10, 2010, 07:50:58 PM

Anyone know a place that's selling the PAL version of the game online for a reasonable price? The usual import stores aren't stocking it. I guess I can run to Akihabara this weekend and hope they have it there...

Dude, you're gonna sit on an overnight bus for FFXIII?

That's quite the trip for a video game.

Quote from: dcharlie on March 10, 2010, 08:08:45 PM

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I guess I can run to Akihabara this weekend and hope they have it there...

why did i not know you were out here in Japan?!

He's in my old haunts of Kanazawa.

Ichirou · « **Reply #54 on:** March 10, 2010, 09:58:42 PM »

He shouldn't. I checked and the PAL version only works on US 360s. If his 360 is Japanese, he's fucked. He'll have to wait a year for the inevitable Asian version.

bork · « **Reply #55 on:** March 10, 2010, 09:59:46 PM »

UH OH TIME TO BUY A PS3?!

They will announce an Asian version soon enough, I'm sure. That or "FFXIII International" will be released, with English and extra content.

Ichirou · « **Reply #56 on:** March 10, 2010, 10:01:23 PM »

Yeah, I'm sure it's only a timed exclusive for the PS3. A 360 FFXIII page leaked last year, so you know it's coming, and if it comes out in Japan, that means an English version'll come out in Asia.

originalz · « **Reply #57 on:** March 10, 2010, 10:01:38 PM »

Really, no version of the game works with J360s? That's unfortunate...

I'm going to be in Tokyo this weekend for other reasons, heh, I wouldn't travel to Aki just for a game!

bork · « **Reply #58 on:** March 10, 2010, 10:02:11 PM »

Quote from: originalz on March 10, 2010, 10:01:38 PM

Really, no version of the game works with J360s? That's unfortunate...

I'm going to be in Tokyo this weekend for other reasons, heh, I wouldn't travel to Aki just for a game!

Yes you would.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #59 on:** March 11, 2010, 12:54:56 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 10:01:23 PM

Yeah, I'm sure it's only a timed exclusive for the PS3. A 360 FFXIII page leaked last year, so you know it's coming, and if it comes out in Japan, that means an English version'll come out in Asia.

Region-free PS3, dude.

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