Angry White People Post On Evilbore

[Ichirou]

The thread is still on-topic, Shake.  I'm seeing a lot of angry white people posting on it.

[The Fake Shemp]

See, I would get that if this was eel's thread talking about his shitty situation (which it very much is). But this wasn't and we were discussing politics before he shared his view. Just because he didn't like it all conservation had to stop and I was no longer allowed to praise the bill? You don't realize how crazy that sounds?

No, Cheebs, nobody is saying you shouldn't be able to express your viewpoint, but you could have done it with some tact. If you'd like a private lesson in it, feel free to IM me. I could draft you a reply that doesn't make you sound like insensitive yuppie spawn.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

The thread is still on-topic, Shake.  I'm seeing a lot of angry white people posting on it.

Oh fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Cheebs]

Let me put it this way to Willco and Ichi:

Shake makes a thread about grandpas.

Many are talking about how much they love their grandpas.

Eel posts and says he doesn't like his grandpa that he was mean to him (and has a good reason to feel that way).

What you are saying is now because of this all the previous conversation can no longer be discussed, I am hear by banned from saying I love my grandpa anymore in that thread.

It makes no sense.

[pollo]

Eel, that 400 bucks was from the Making Work Pay Credit, I got the same thing. I had about around 20,000 AGI last year and paid only about 1850 in taxes-- then again I have student loan interest I can deduct as well as Education Credits for taking classes. Seems like I paid a lot less than you. FTR I am self employed. I guess it's your company status that screws you.

[The Fake Shemp]

Let me put it this way to Willco and Ichi:

Shake makes a thread about grandpas.

Many are talking about how much they love their grandpas.

Eel posts and says he doesn't like his grandpa that he was mean to him.

What you are saying is now because of this all the previous conversation can no longer be discussed, I am hear by banned from saying I love my grandpa anymore in that thread any more.

It makes no sense.

NOBODY IS SAYING THIS. ARE YOU THIS STUPID IN REAL LIFE? IF SO, HOW ARE YOU IN COLLEGE?

[The Dark Shake 3000]

"I can understand why Eel wouldn't love his grandpa, but mine wasn't abusive and I think grandpas are a wonderful thing."

"Shut the FUCK UP you yuppie scum! Stop being a dick!"

:tbslol

[Cheebs]

Let me put it this way to Willco and Ichi:

Shake makes a thread about grandpas.

Many are talking about how much they love their grandpas.

Eel posts and says he doesn't like his grandpa that he was mean to him.

What you are saying is now because of this all the previous conversation can no longer be discussed, I am hear by banned from saying I love my grandpa anymore in that thread any more.

It makes no sense.

NOBODY IS SAYING THIS. ARE YOU THIS STUPID IN REAL LIFE? IF SO, HOW ARE YOU IN COLLEGE?

You and Ichi said its insensitive to say how happy I am with health care when eel was telling his story.

I never said eel had to like or his situation wasn't fucked up. All I said was I liked it. And said the greater good was more important to ME.

[Ichirou]

Let me put it this way to Willco and Ichi:

Shake makes a thread about grandpas.

Many are talking about how much they love their grandpas.

Eel posts and says he doesn't like his grandpa that he was mean to him (and has a good reason to feel that way).

What you are saying is now because of this all the previous conversation can no longer be discussed, I am hear by banned from saying I love my grandpa anymore in that thread.

It makes no sense.

"My grampa beat me and sodomized me."

"That sucks for you, but your grampa took me out for ice cream once and he even bought me a scooter.  Your grampa rocks!"

...more accurate.

[Cheebs]

Let me put it this way to Willco and Ichi:

Shake makes a thread about grandpas.

Many are talking about how much they love their grandpas.

Eel posts and says he doesn't like his grandpa that he was mean to him (and has a good reason to feel that way).

What you are saying is now because of this all the previous conversation can no longer be discussed, I am hear by banned from saying I love my grandpa anymore in that thread.

It makes no sense.

"My grampa beat me and sodomized me."

"That sucks for you, but your grampa took me out for ice cream once and he even bought me a scooter.  Your grampa rocks!"

...more accurate.

Except the health care bill isn't his. It's just as much mine. And Willco's and Shakes. Doesn't matter if they work or are in college or their age.

[Ichirou]

It's sodomizing his wallet.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

The American government beat Eel and sodomized him, and then took Cheebs out for ice cream?

Eel should tear up his citizenship

[Cheebs]

It's sodomizing his wallet.

And its making a lot of Americans save money thanks to a new govt. program of health care for individuals who cant afford to purchase it.

Or am I not allowed to think about them?  I am not saying Eel can't be pissed but fucking sue me for caring about the millions who'll get coverage thanks to this bill.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Eel has every right to be upset about the bill, and to post as much. And Cheebs has every right to provide a counter argument.

That's the American Way™

[Cheebs]

I could understand if this was a law made purely for Eel. But this is a law that will help save a lot of money for a lot of people. Eel isn't one of them and yes, that sucks. But there are MILLIONS will will benefit from this that should maybe be considered too.

[Ichirou]

The American government beat Eel and sodomized him, and then took Cheebs out for ice cream?

Eel should tear up his citizenship

Not the American government.  One man...

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Yes because Obama is the entire government, and makes all the laws happen himself

He's just that good.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Also, for argument's sake what if I was to say that Eel was insensitive for bringing a personal grievance only tangentially related to the topic at hand up and completely derailing my thread?

I mean I'm not because that's distinguished mentally-challenged, but I guess I'm just not up on what is and isn't considered fair play on EB.

[Ichirou]

Him and his posse...

[Cheebs]

Well at least I know before I take a stance of support for any legislation I need to make sure the legislation will be supported by everyone who potentially will post in that topic at eb before I support it.

I could understand praising it being insensitive if this was eel's thread about how the bill hurts him. Because that would be a fucking rude thing to do and I would never do that, but that isn't the situation here.


Nancy Pelosi > everyone at EB including myself.

[Mandark]

I gave a shot at having a learning moment with Cheebs and it didn't stick.  I didn't think it would and any attempts to carry the argument are going to make it completely tiresome and meta and full of terrible metaphors OH WAIT I SEE WE ARE HERE ALREADY.

and they coulda ended recission without the crappy private health care requirement and the bizarre tax credit structure, but obama pussied out on the public option, and single-payer was never even on the table because of everyone squawking SOCIALISM

Maybe, but there's a lot more regulation than the recission stuff and since the bill destroys the traditional role of insurance companies in underwriting (weeding out people who will probably need medical care), there was gonna be something in there to prevent ZOMG adverse selection death spiral.  Having a public option wouldn't have changed that.  It'd just be another choice for how to fill in the Pay To The Order Of part of the check they're making you write.

I really think the importance libruls have attached to the public option has a tad more to do with wanting to keep insurance companies from profiting than the actual good it would do people.  I don't really care that much about corporate profiteering unless it gets so bad it warps the economy.  It's the large scale version of the welfare cheat for me.  Yeah he's a dick, but I'll gladly let some parasites get theirs if it means actually providing a decent baseline in living standards and social services for the population as a whole (not that this bill does that).

[The Fake Shemp]

Look, Cheebs, apparently because you are not only insensitive, but completely clueless, let me spell it out for you:

NOBODY CARES THAT YOU ARE PRO-H.R. 3590, BUT THAT YOU REITERATED YOUR OPINION WITHOUT ANY REGARDS TO THE POSTER DISCUSSING HIS REAL-LIFE STRUGGLES.

YOU ARE FREE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION, BUT PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY TO NOT SOUND SO MUCH LIKE AN OVER PRIVILEGED DICK WHEN COMPARING SITUATIONS TO SOMEONE WHO IS OBVIOUSLY STRUGGLING.

Here would be a sample of a better reply:

Eel, I understand your that you are part of a percentage of working Americans negatively impacted by the bill, and that really does suck. I hope this puts us on a path to eventually getting affordable health care reform for those who are self-employed. I think it will - eventually.

But right now, it gives millions of Americans access to insurance that they otherwise could not afford, and that is why I am in favor of this bill. Nobody's struggles are greater than anyone else's, but I think we can help more Americans across the board with the reform going into place right now than without.

My financial situation is vastly different than yours, but I can say that I now have direct access to health care due to certain consumer protections that take effect immediately. I know this means little to you, but I felt it was worth noting that there is a positive side to this bill - at least on a personal level. It's not all bad.

I do sympathize with your struggles, but I sincerely believe this will lead us to getting the help you need. It sucks that good people might be squeezed in the meanwhile.

... The difference between me and you is, I don't have my head up my ass (an admirable feat for such a big guy).

[Cheebs]

BUT THAT YOU REITERATED YOUR OPINION WITHOUT ANY REGARDS TO THE POSTER DISCUSSING HIS REAL-LIFE STRUGGLES.

I repeated ENDLESSLY in this thread that his situation sucks and he has every right to be pissed off. I guess I should repeat it 20 more times? Even Eel said he didn't take what I said personally!

I am sorry I didn't express it clearly enough for you. 

[Ichirou]

Damn libruls.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Except Cheebs did express that he felt bad for Eel, even in a post YOU YOURSELF QUOTED Willco. Which is why all this bickering is so silly.

[Cheebs]

Taxes > anime

[Mandark]

Forget it Willco, it's Chinatown.

[The Fake Shemp]

Thanks, Mandark. I was about to launch into a multi-paragraph rebuttal, but I clicked preview and saw your post. You're right.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Forget it Willco, it's the internet, where people are still allowed to express their opinions freely, especially in a civilized manor.

Fixed for accuracy.

[Cheebs]

This doesn't relate to just this thread, more in general I am still clueless on why Willco thinks he somehow has more life experience than me and thus I should ceed to his wisdom on things. I don't know what about being in your mid-20's and a struggling screenwriter has over what I have done in my life. Which I have gone through a lot of shit you and most of eb don't know about.  It is fucking annoying how you act like I am some innocent child to be "schooled".

It is growing very tired seeing you try to pat me on my head in topic after topic. You haven't experienced more than me or know more than me. You don't know anything about my life. I have my own little sob stories that I could share (how about the time I nearly died and was in the hospital for almost 2 years straight?). But I don't feel like sharing shit about my life on a internet forum. So for that I guess it is decided I have lived a perfect sheltered life to be taught lessons by you and others.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Isn't Willco in his mid-20s?

[Ichirou]

I think in Willco and Mandark's mind you're still a first-year college student or something.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Yep, because it's easier to brush someone aside as an uncultured child than to actually engage them on any intellectual level. Especially when one isn't much of an intellectual.

[Cheebs]

I think in Willco and Mandark's mind you're still a first-year college student or something.

It seems that way.

Some here REFUSE to accept I am not some 16 year old kid living in my parents basement.  You may disagree with me, you may think my views are fucking stupid but stop acting like I am a kid who hasn't lived life, you have very little idea of any details of my life. Disagree and mock my views but stop actin like you've lived life and thus are more informed to have views.

I mean it's not like Willco is some wise old career man, he is in his mid-20's living pay check to pay check. Most people over 40 would see him just as much as a  innocent "kid" as shake.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Willco gets paychecks? I thought he was a "struggling" screenwriter?

[The Fake Shemp]

This doesn't relate to just this thread, more in general I am still clueless on why Willco thinks he somehow has more life experience than me and thus I should ceed to his wisdom on things.

This has absolutely nothing to do with that, but if it makes you sleep better at night - feel free to think that. I think it's pretty cute that you're victimizing yourself here.

It really just has to do with the fact that you were an insensitive twat. At first I just thought you poorly worded your reply, because I had more respect for your intelligence and empathy level prior to the last page. Now I realize you're clueless. It's a shame.

Shake is being Shake. I can't fault him for that.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Standing up for what's right

[The Fake Shemp]

Internet martyr.

[Cheebs]

This doesn't relate to just this thread, more in general I am still clueless on why Willco thinks he somehow has more life experience than me and thus I should ceed to his wisdom on things.

This has absolutely nothing to do with that, but if it makes you sleep better at night - feel free to think that.

It really just has to do with the fact that you were an insensitive twat. At first I just thought you poorly worded your reply, because I had more respect for your intelligence and empathy level prior to the last page. Now I realize you're clueless. It's a shame.

Shake is being Shake. I can't fault him for that.

I am being a twat to you, not eel. I continuously tried to say I understood his point and he even said he didn't take anything I said personally. Yet even after he said that you rushed into defend his honor for what seems like just an excuse to start shit.

None of the past 284924824 pages has anything to do what I said to eel and you know that, that ended when eel said he didn't take what I said personally. It is just another faked outrage to find another reason to start shit with one of the "michigan distinguished mentally-challenged fellows" which somehow shake always ends up being lumped into or whatever.

[Ichirou]

Everybody fucking relax.

[The Fake Shemp]

No, you were an insensitive twat to Eel. You've refused to concede this, and have concocted some ridiculous straw man argument about critics trying to silence your opinion or something equally delusional.

Now you've moved on to setting yourself up as the victim, with some pre-menstrual diatribe about how Mandark and I look down to you because of some age gap or lack of real world experience. You sound like a Livejournal now.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Someone change my tag to "Batting cleanup for the Michigan distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

[Cheebs]

Everybody fucking relax.

This argument could have ended page one when eel came in and said he didn't take anything I said personally. But Willco and the anti-"michigan distinguished mentally-challenged fellow" crew had to rush in to defend his honor. Can't pass up a chance to argue with cheebs or shake!

[Cheebs]

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Someone change my tag to "Batting cleanup for the Michigan distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

[The Fake Shemp]

At least Shake has a sense of humor!

[Cheebs]

At least Shake has a sense of humor!

As long as you stop pretending you have some sort of more life experience and always feel the need to pat me on my head like an inferior I have no beef with you at all, which has something that has been going on since I first joined and hoped and expected would have been long since passed when I returned last month but it didn't seem to, whoever I was in 2006 is the person that got stuck in a lot of peoples minds unfairly. If you think I am saying distinguished mentally-challenged shit treat me as an equal when you call my views distinguished mentally-challenged. 

[The Fake Shemp]

I never said that. Wow, you've shifted from ignorant to delusional with a persecution complex.

[Ichirou]

I think it's plain to see that Willco and Cheebs are equally distinguished mentally-challenged.

[The Fake Shemp]

Says the guy who got ripped off by Mupepe.

[Ichirou]

I never said I wasn't even more distinguished mentally-challenged. 

[The Dark Shake 3000]

I think you're all distinguished mentally-challenged. You should all make signs and protest in the middle of 4chan. :'(

[The Fake Shemp]

It's okay, I still accept you, Ichirou.

[Cheebs]

Ichi will still be pissed at Mupepe long after I, Shake, or Willco even remember this thread. 

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Ichi will still be filing the paperwork to take Mupepe to small claims court long after we're all dead.

[Madrun Badrun]

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Someone change my tag to "Batting cleanup for the Michigan distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

[Smooth Groove]

[Cheebs]

I remember when Ichi still hated shake for like a year after the Mupepe.com madness.

I honestly can't remember why Ichi used to hate shake.  

[Ichirou]

Because he loved Kevin Smith.

[Cheebs]

That was why you held a year+ long grudge and trashed him eb in that period? 


OH SHIT shake in aim:
it all started with us making fun of him for thinking sin city should have been a real noir

[Ichirou]

Nah, the Kevin Smith stuff came even before that, back when I still posted on GAF.