Author Topic: Here, have some Deus Ex 3 CG (Read 71882 times)

Sho Nuff · « **on:** June 04, 2010, 01:54:59 PM »

[youtube=560,345]vJxQjWytIcU[/youtube]

Hmmmm

All CG by Square Japan apparently :/

Warren! Warren, where are you?

Oh.... never mind

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2010, 01:59:59 PM »

OK that looked pretty cool actually

TripleA · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:00:33 PM »

I am becoming increasingly alarmed about Square Enixs direct involvement with Deus Ex 3.

brob · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:03:09 PM »

TWO NUKES. NOT ENUFF.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:05:41 PM »

Maybe Square-Enix can bring some true RPG elements to the series without turning it into a horribly streamlined piece of shit

oh....nevermind.

brob · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:11:05 PM »

trolling much?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

that hallway has doors

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Vizzys · « **Reply #6 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:11:54 PM »

square is making the fmv stuff, also where their involvement ends

here have some scans

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3278576&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=26#post377757894

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:28:22 PM »

dark1x · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:36:36 PM »

Love the realtime shots. Fantastic art direction (much better than the original games).

Of course, I was never concerned about the visuals. Let's hope they actually nail the rest of it.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:46:28 PM »

I'd say it's an improvement in art direction too, though that may only be because DE1 looks like ass now and so the art direction couldn't be fully realized because of the graphic capabilities.

dark1x · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:47:53 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 04, 2010, 02:42:06 PM

Quote from: dark1x on June 04, 2010, 02:36:36 PM
Love the realtime shots. Fantastic art direction (much better than the original games).

... what?

Have you played Deus Ex? How can you say MJ12 Commandoes or the huge mechanical Bots or the Hand sculpture in the lobby have bad art direction?

Hong-Kong streets?

They looked realistic and pushed the Unreal 1.0 engine pretty hard.

Oh yeah I forgot the pinnacle of art direction for you is MGS2 Tanker scene.

MGS2 was not the pinnacle of art direction, but it sure as hell looked better than Deus Ex (artistically and technically). Don't get me wrong, Deus Ex is one of my favorite games ever made, but I never thought it was a good looking game. Back in 2000, it was already quite dated.

I loved Hong Kong back then, but it's just a bunch of boxy structures with random Chinese signs sticking out. Nothing special from a design standpoint. That said, I also realize that the engine and time period of its release prevented the game from really delivering what they may have had in mind.

Now we have stuff like this, which I think looks fantastic...

Yes, there is definitely some Blade Runner influence in there, but that was also true of the original.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:56:49 PM »

Sfaggotized for Borys:

Wow, almost looks like a real picture. Can't believe they pull that off on 10 year old hardware.

power of the PC

dark1x · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:58:14 PM »

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I was just worried you were one of the guys that spat on Deus Ex and 99% other WRPGs but the moment SQUARE-ENIX drops a FMV in the game they go drooling because JAPANESE ART DIRECTION!!!

Man, that's insulting. I don't feel that way at all. I actually don't care for a lot of Japanese art direction, to be honest, but I also recognize quality work when I see it. There's great work coming from studios all over the world.

I played Deus Ex on its release date and fell in love with it. Of course, it ran pretty poorly back then. Do you remember how low the framerate was for many people on the Statue of Liberty map at the beginning? Christ, it was bad. Also, when large explosions would trigger I was always hit with lots of HDD access. I used to sit there and think "damn, that explosion must have been awesome as my PC couldn't handle that!!!". Of course, it really wasn't when I finally saw it.

Amazing game all around, though. That was right around the time when I had played Thief II, System Shock 2, and Deus Ex all within a year of each other. Late 90s PC gaming was the best shit around.

Himu · « **Reply #13 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:05:39 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on June 04, 2010, 02:11:05 PM

trolling much?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that hallway has doors
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demi · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:15:46 PM »

Maybe they'll make the game playable. First game was garbage

tiesto · « **Reply #15 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:17:49 PM »

Japanese Art Direction

cool breeze · « **Reply #16 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:20:39 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on June 04, 2010, 02:55:11 PM

I'm a mega huge fan of the first game but I'm completely open to a new style and gameplay. As long as the game is good then I'll be happy.

That's how I feel. I read some posts on gaf and it's like people won't accept anything that isn't the same game from 10 years ago. It's like if people complained about Tron Legacy not looking like the old film.

So far I'm liking the style of this game. I mean, the first thing I didn't like about Invisible War was how it looked. The style of the trailer and screens look great here.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #17 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:21:08 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on June 04, 2010, 02:11:05 PM

trolling much?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that hallway has doors
[close]

True. Walking down that hallway might actually be more fun and interesting than 12 out of 13 chapters in FFXIII.

Instead of heading straight for the door at the end of the hallway, you can look behind some of those doors and who knows? you might find an orgy.

cool breeze · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:24:17 PM »

I guess they didn't put all the pictures from that magazine up, but this one is good at showing how different areas look...different. The pictures all released make it seem like it will be all orange tint.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:26:58 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on June 04, 2010, 03:20:39 PM

Quote from: a slime appears on June 04, 2010, 02:55:11 PM
I'm a mega huge fan of the first game but I'm completely open to a new style and gameplay. As long as the game is good then I'll be happy.

That's how I feel. I read some posts on gaf and it's like people won't accept anything that isn't the same game from 10 years ago. It's like if people complained about Tron Legacy not looking like the old film.

So far I'm liking the style of this game. I mean, the first thing I didn't like about Invisible War was how it looked. The style of the trailer and screens look great here.

Weird, I expect that from Jap or Weeaboo gamers but not Western gaming fans.

cool breeze · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:33:17 PM »

um, did you see the reactions to Mass Effect 2 before it was released?

dark1x · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:39:11 PM »

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Not hating on the game but my expectations are pretty damn low. It's being developed by Eidos Montreal, a new studio with team that has no track record.

The fact that it is a new team is one of the reasons I have hope, actually.

tiesto · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:55:42 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on June 04, 2010, 03:33:17 PM

um, did you see the reactions to Mass Effect 2 before it was released?

Or Fallout 3? Didn't many people on some Fallout fan community totally lose their shit? PC gamers are extremely conservative too.

demi · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2010, 03:58:53 PM »

That's because PC gamers and Fallout distinguished mentally-challenged fellows are mutually exclusive

cool breeze · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2010, 04:01:28 PM »

Quote from: dark1x on June 04, 2010, 03:39:11 PM

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Not hating on the game but my expectations are pretty damn low. It's being developed by Eidos Montreal, a new studio with team that has no track record.
The fact that it is a new team is one of the reasons I have hope, actually.

This is true. I think I would have been more willing to accept the new X-com game if they didn't say it's from the team behind Bioshock 2.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #25 on:** June 04, 2010, 06:18:10 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on June 04, 2010, 03:49:11 PM

I guess that's a fair point. There's nothing to compare them to so it could turn out either way.

True. I'd rather take the wild card.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2010, 09:27:32 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on June 04, 2010, 03:55:42 PM

Quote from: Linkzg on June 04, 2010, 03:33:17 PM
um, did you see the reactions to Mass Effect 2 before it was released?

Or Fallout 3? Didn't many people on some Fallout fan community totally lose their shit?

NMA went insane over it, yeah.

I really like the way the trailer looks, very Blade Runner, so I've got some hope for the finished product. Not much, but a little bit.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #27 on:** June 05, 2010, 01:44:00 PM »

you've gotta be willing to fight for what you believe in, man

Raban · « **Reply #28 on:** June 05, 2010, 01:53:58 PM »

Will probably be shit.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #29 on:** June 05, 2010, 04:26:13 PM »

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I was just worried you were one of the guys that spat on Deus Ex and 99% other WRPGs but the moment SQUARE-ENIX drops a FMV in the game they go drooling because JAPANESE ART DIRECTION!!!

It doesn't appear to be Japanese art direction, look at the credits at the end. The credits for the game itself are all Western names and even the trailer credits (which I'm guessing are representative of the in-game FMV team) have Western names for the script, direction, editing and concept art, though the actual CG production team appears to be Japanese.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #30 on:** June 05, 2010, 04:32:41 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on June 05, 2010, 04:26:13 PM

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I was just worried you were one of the guys that spat on Deus Ex and 99% other WRPGs but the moment SQUARE-ENIX drops a FMV in the game they go drooling because JAPANESE ART DIRECTION!!!

It doesn't appear to be Japanese art direction, look at the credits at the end. The credits for the game itself are all Western names and even the trailer credits (which I'm guessing are representative of the in-game FMV team) have Western names for the script, direction, editing and concept art, though the actual CG production team appears to be Japanese.

They got SE's CG team to do the CG because it's something they're pretty good at, but the actual development of the game is handled by the team at Eidos Montreal.

Why some people are trying to make this an East vs. West issue is beyond me.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #31 on:** June 05, 2010, 04:47:43 PM »

Yes, but even within the CG FMV cutscenes the high-level direction, scripting, design and art direction is apparently done by a Western team.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #32 on:** June 06, 2010, 06:22:16 PM »

Also, by this point does this style qualify as retro-futurism? (I don't mean the Renaissance conceit.)

cool breeze · « **Reply #33 on:** June 06, 2010, 06:50:28 PM »

do you mean designing based around older generation's vision of the future?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #34 on:** June 06, 2010, 07:25:06 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on June 06, 2010, 06:22:16 PM

Also, by this point does this style qualify as retro-futurism? (I don't mean the Renaissance conceit.)

I think you could argue that. The Deus Ex future is dark and gritty, heavily inspired by the future as portrayed by works like Blade Runner and Neuromancer. Modern-futurism I see as being more like Minority Report, with everything having a slick and clean, almost Apple-inspired, look.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #35 on:** June 07, 2010, 09:45:45 AM »

This looks like what MGS4 should have been.

chronovore · « **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:35:16 PM »

I loved one, but a pretty CG movie is never, ever going to be enough to make me buy a game. I doubt that montreal will pull off the complexity and depth of experience the old game afforded. I really like whatever Ubi montreal produces, visually speaking, but gameplay tends to get short shrift.

Also, seriously, I know the "two bombs were not enough" is a reference to something a US politician said, but it's still offensive to have trotted out. The phrase "Japs," too. If some politician had started throwing out statements about "distinguished black fellows will always be slaves" or "feggits are made for beating" it is still not something that would be tolerated on The Bore. Hell, there are word filters for it.

This shouldn't be, either.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:37:58 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 07, 2010, 06:35:16 PM

I loved one, but a pretty CG movie is never, ever going to be enough to make me buy a game. I doubt that montreal will pull off the complexity and depth of experience the old game afforded. I really like whatever Ubi montreal produces, visually speaking, but gameplay tends to get short shrift.

It's Eidos, not Ubisoft.

demi · « **Reply #38 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:50:42 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 07, 2010, 09:55:07 AM

MGS is a ridiculous franchise and it shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Deus Ex.

/rant

True. At least MGS was playable...

brob · « **Reply #39 on:** June 07, 2010, 06:57:34 PM »

what else has the studio made?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #40 on:** June 07, 2010, 07:07:43 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on June 07, 2010, 06:57:34 PM

what else has the studio made?

Nothing. They've also got Thief 4 in development, though.

brob · « **Reply #41 on:** June 07, 2010, 07:18:41 PM »

Thief is my sacred cow. And I had some confidence in thief since 3 was good and that wasn't done by the core team...

I'll be white-knucklin' it all the way 'til we get some footage now. $:-\$

chronovore · « **Reply #42 on:** June 07, 2010, 07:32:09 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2010, 06:37:58 PM

Quote from: chronovore on June 07, 2010, 06:35:16 PM
I loved one, but a pretty CG movie is never, ever going to be enough to make me buy a game. I doubt that montreal will pull off the complexity and depth of experience the old game afforded. I really like whatever Ubi montreal produces, visually speaking, but gameplay tends to get short shrift.

It's Eidos, not Ubisoft.

Er... ooops?

cool breeze · « **Reply #43 on:** June 08, 2010, 12:28:39 AM »

wait, these same guys are working on Thi4f? it would suck even more now if DX3 turns out bad because suddenly the chance of a new good fear game is lessened.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #44 on:** June 08, 2010, 02:54:27 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 08, 2010, 02:07:52 PM

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Adam looks bad-ass.

Himu · « **Reply #45 on:** June 08, 2010, 03:01:30 PM »

Raban · « **Reply #46 on:** June 08, 2010, 03:09:28 PM »

So, I want to play through the original Deus Ex, but I have such a hard time getting through that first stage. I don't know, the gameplay just isn't very fun. How does the game change from its first moments? It seems like a really slow-starting game, but so was Mass Effect, and it became amazing by the end.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #47 on:** June 08, 2010, 08:23:34 PM »

Art design in Deus Ex 3 is hitting all the notes for me i must admit.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #48 on:** June 08, 2010, 08:33:40 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on June 08, 2010, 08:23:34 PM

Art design in Deus Ex 3 is hitting all the notes for me i must admit.

There really aren't enough cyberpunk, Blade Runner-inspired games, that's for sure.

tiesto · « **Reply #49 on:** June 08, 2010, 09:13:14 PM »

http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2010/04/is-cyberpunk-dead.html

came across this article today, about cyberpunk games and such... it's an awesome style but unfortunately, not in much use nowadays.

Vizzys · « **Reply #50 on:** June 08, 2010, 09:38:13 PM »

cyberpunk will never die!

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #51 on:** June 09, 2010, 12:09:37 AM »

Man I really want his coat

pilonv1 · « **Reply #52 on:** June 09, 2010, 12:34:38 AM »

WHY DOES THE KOALA HAVE A SAW

Raban · « **Reply #53 on:** June 09, 2010, 04:36:59 PM »

I dunno Borys, I love to trust you, since you were so right about FF12, but I can't have as much faith in this as you. I just can't :'(

brob · « **Reply #54 on:** June 09, 2010, 04:46:22 PM »

So what's the over-under on gameplay at e3?

Quote from: Sho Nuff on June 09, 2010, 12:09:37 AM

Man I really want his coat

me too.

brob · « **Reply #55 on:** June 09, 2010, 05:13:42 PM »

without the Deus Ex branding IW would be a middling title and forgotten at this point. With the baggage of it's branding it's trash.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #56 on:** June 09, 2010, 05:25:55 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on June 09, 2010, 05:02:53 PM

Quote from: Borys on June 09, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
DX1 is my best game ever.
IW was utter shit.

I have a good feeling about DX3. I give them the benefit of doubt and remain hyped.

Aww come on, IW wasn't that bad. If it had any other name it would've been praised.

I played through it about a year ago and I agree. It's not a great game and it's a bit on the short side, but it's still pretty fun.

brob · « **Reply #57 on:** June 09, 2010, 05:33:52 PM »

It's been a while since I played it and maybe my definition of 'middling' differs from y'all, but I thought the game was good (enough) for the time it lasted, but it didn't have any particularly interesting hooks that made it stand out. At this point I suspect it's too dated to be enjoyed and it's legacy is just being a disappointment.

maxy · « **Reply #58 on:** June 10, 2010, 10:03:07 AM »

Just for Borys,EG lengthy preview

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-human-revolution-preview

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #59 on:** June 10, 2010, 10:34:22 AM »

Quote from: maxy on June 10, 2010, 10:03:07 AM

Just for Borys,EG lengthy preview

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-human-revolution-preview

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