Author Topic: Official Thread of Inception: Best summer blockbuster since 2009! (Read 71987 times)

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #780 on:** July 25, 2010, 10:04:59 PM »

1. Inception $43,505,000
2. Salt $36,500,000

drew · « **Reply #781 on:** July 25, 2010, 11:38:18 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on July 25, 2010, 09:53:46 PM

Drew "partied" with a distinguished mentally-challenged girl in his parents basement. Don't know what to say...

dude, i was a kid, my sister threw the party, i didnt actually hang out with her $:-\$

Robo · « **Reply #782 on:** July 25, 2010, 11:53:23 PM »

I only just realized over the course of reading the last page that all the references to "salt" were for a movie and not the mineral. I was wondering how Inception could possibly have more facebook fans, because salt is pretty delicious.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #783 on:** July 25, 2010, 11:58:22 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 25, 2010, 10:04:59 PM

1. Inception $43,505,000
2. Salt $36,500,000

Only a 30% drop. This movie's got

drew · « **Reply #784 on:** July 26, 2010, 12:03:34 AM »

Salt looks corny as fuck

bagofeyes · « **Reply #785 on:** July 26, 2010, 01:14:57 AM »

I already read what happens in salt on wikipedia. im not seeing that shit.

etiolate · « **Reply #786 on:** July 26, 2010, 05:02:08 AM »

Saw it. Really liked it. I liked the way time is trapped in the film and the rules of the film making the cinema form create doubt. Reminded me a lot Shutter Island, but more focused on the thrill and suspense. In a way it is just a heist movie, with a gang, disguises and specialists, etc. Except the punishment for failing is not getting caught and going to jail, but being forever trapped in the crime itself.

Cheebs · « **Reply #787 on:** July 26, 2010, 08:41:36 AM »

Quote from: bagofeyes on July 26, 2010, 01:14:57 AM

I already read what happens in salt on wikipedia. im not seeing that shit.

It's a really average movie. Not worth more than a rent really.

GilloD · « **Reply #788 on:** July 26, 2010, 07:21:36 PM »

Finally saw it; was sufficently awed. This is the first time in my life I really understood the art and purpose of film editing. Especially in the first third, the editing is really jarring and quick, it does a great job of simulating that feeling of being in a dream, of reinforcing that point Cobb keeps harping on about not being able to remember how you got there.

It's seemed pretty obvious to me

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That Cobb is in a dream, right? His totem is unreliable- He took it from Mal and if Arthur is right, that makes it useless. And in the end the kids are the same age, in the same pose and have the same clothes on. If you wanna push back farther, could the Mumbasa chase just be a result of Projections chasing him? I feel like the entire film is Cobb inventing a reason to overcome his demons and overcome his guilt and be able to move on with his dream life.

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The entire last third, where you're basically watching 5 movies at once, was incredible. Beautifully assembled, beautifully shot and beautifully written. All the elements of that film are in perfect harmony.

chronovore · « **Reply #789 on:** July 27, 2010, 11:21:24 AM »

Yeah, I thought the same thing, because of the reasons you gave. But it's more like:

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"BLUE SKIES ON MARS! THAT'S A NEW ONE!" from Total Recall. It's there not to be an endcap which makes everything make sense, but to bring a new level of confusion to the viewer. As Stringfellow says, it goes against the title of the movie if the point is "extraction," but maybe it's the wife placing the idea of redemption in Cobb's head, at some point he will have to disbelief the existence of his kids, who are unchanged from the last time he saw them. Maybe his wife was right, the realm he returned to was one level too low, and he is stuck in the dream. Or maybe he was permanently trapped in limbo, his own limbo, since we don't see the resolution with Saito onscreen.

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GilloD · « **Reply #790 on:** July 27, 2010, 11:38:06 AM »

Yeah, I don't think it's meant to be cut and dry, but there are plenty of hints that tip the scales.

etiolate · « **Reply #791 on:** July 28, 2010, 05:51:01 AM »

Eh, I do not think dreams have to be extremely weird to be dreams. If they were, by the films own rules, it would alert the dreamer to the dreamworld. As a lucid dreamer, what mostly REM dreams I have are made out of real world places that present real world obstacles in my way. Often, it is when my dreams become really weird that I become self-aware.

But to the issue of lack of character development, I agree that there is less character exploration than say Shutter Island, but if

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he is still trapped in the last layer of dreams then the other characters really wouldn't show much growth beyond their purpose, and he himself would only change as much as he is willing to take a leap of faith on. Whether he is still in a dream or not I cannot say for sure. If he's not then the character growth is a real flaw.

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Mupepe · « **Reply #792 on:** July 28, 2010, 10:23:28 AM »

I don't mind the lack of character development and whatnot. It was a summer blockbuster. I wasn't expecting it to break that mold. It was definitely the most fun summer blockbuster in ages and without a doubt it was more engaging than any I've sat through in years.

Cheebs · « **Reply #793 on:** July 28, 2010, 12:20:10 PM »

Every dream I have had that I can recall were realistic. I don't get this idea where dreams have to be some sort of crazy psychedelic abstract weird look in films. Most peoples dreams probably don't look like that but that is the standard image of a dream in movies. Nolan's feel far more like real dreams to me.

etiolate · « **Reply #794 on:** July 28, 2010, 12:25:55 PM »

Well some people do have really weird dreams. I had more weird dreams when I was younger. These days my memory of events is built up so much that they supply a lot of dream fodder instead of my mind drawing from nothing or from fantasy. Since this was a movie reliant on rules, the dreams had to be of the sort where rules could apply in some manner.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #795 on:** July 28, 2010, 12:48:17 PM »

Most of the dreams I can remember are pretty mundane and involve mundane issues. Like, I'm in my old school again and I can't remember which locker is mine or I forgot my books or something.

Although I have had dreams that involved a zombie attack before.

Mupepe · « **Reply #796 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:22:34 PM »

I'm in that camp too. There is too much evidence leaning that way IMO.

I had a dream the other night that I was part of Avatar and we got attacked by the Na'vi and we were escaping Pandora on our ship and we were all fucked up. but then on the ship I met one of my best friends from high school and he had all this cool shit now. And he gave me a bunch of cool shit like a covered wagon and big tv and stuff.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #797 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:25:03 PM »

Quote from: Rob Thomas on July 28, 2010, 01:22:34 PM

And he gave me a bunch of cool shit like a covered wagon and big tv and stuff.

Mupepe · « **Reply #798 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:31:25 PM »

I put all the other cool shit in the covered wagon. It was badass. I kept thinking "in 6 years when I get back to earth, this is going to be fucking awesome"

Cheebs · « **Reply #799 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:39:16 PM »

I had a dream the other night where I was reading on twitter than Daniel Craig died. Either I use twitter too much or I am subconsciously want to murder Daniel Craig. Or both.

Mupepe · « **Reply #800 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:43:40 PM »

Quote from: Stringfellow Hawke on July 28, 2010, 01:36:04 PM

Quote from: Rob Thomas on July 28, 2010, 01:22:34 PM
I'm in that camp too. There is too much evidence leaning that way IMO.

Even ignoring most of the perfectly legitimate evidence, the thing that struck me most was
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the kids didn't come to the airport to meet him, in order to maintain that exact same position in the home.
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Never thought about that, but yeah

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the children sealed it for me. Everything about them in the last scene was ridiculously obvious.

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AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #801 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:06:44 PM »

Quote from: Stringfellow Hawke on July 28, 2010, 01:36:04 PM

Quote from: Rob Thomas on July 28, 2010, 01:22:34 PM
I'm in that camp too. There is too much evidence leaning that way IMO.

Even ignoring most of the perfectly legitimate evidence, the thing that struck me most was
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the kids didn't come to the airport to meet him, in order to maintain that exact same position in the home.
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Well,

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if the chinese guy fucked Leo over, I doubt grampa would want the kids to see him dragged away in handcuffs. But yea

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Ichirou · « **Reply #802 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:13:01 PM »

The chinese guy

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #803 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:16:24 PM »

:himu

Groogrux · « **Reply #804 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:28:31 AM »

Quick question: Did anyone forget they were watching a movie at any point during the film? Cause I got sucked into what was going on so much, that I forgot that I was even in a theater. I'm not kidding.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #805 on:** July 29, 2010, 09:40:20 AM »

Quote from: andrwfields on July 29, 2010, 02:28:31 AM

Quick question: Did anyone forget they were watching a movie at any point during the film? Cause I got sucked into what was going on so much, that I forgot that I was even in a theater. I'm not kidding.

INCEPTED!!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #806 on:** July 29, 2010, 12:41:06 PM »

That's not a dream.

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Mandark · « **Reply #807 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:31:12 AM »

Quote from: jarosh on July 28, 2010, 05:38:40 AM

it's astonishing too how much more subtle and clever the writing in memento (his second film!) was.

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i'd say that subtlety isn't nolan's strongest suit either, but he's proven otherwise (at least with memento and to a degree with prestige). the film's writing, and this isn't solely reflected in the dialogue, is just too literal, too obvious. the screenplay is so often busy explaining things, but hardly ever uses concepts, ideas or visual metaphors to do so.

Seriously? I think you need to go back and rewatch Memento , cause literally half its scenes are devoted to expository monologue. Delivered into a telephone, no less.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #808 on:** July 30, 2010, 07:05:29 AM »

I thought that was one of Inceptions strong points...I knew all of the early scenes with Ellen Page were completely didactic, but they still worked, for me anyways.

Reb · « **Reply #809 on:** July 30, 2010, 07:16:07 AM »

Everybody says the kids haven't aged, but:

Cheebs · « **Reply #810 on:** July 30, 2010, 08:36:29 AM »

Quote from: Rebiak on July 30, 2010, 07:16:07 AM

Everybody says the kids haven't aged, but:

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Still obviously a dream of course.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #811 on:** July 30, 2010, 08:41:40 AM »

Probably wrong to think it's a wink and a nod from the filmmakers instead of just adhearing to child labor laws.

Reb · « **Reply #812 on:** July 30, 2010, 08:50:07 AM »

The kids are 2 years apart.

Cheebs · « **Reply #813 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:14:32 AM »

If he was dreaming there is no reason why they still couldn't have aged. He imagined that he and mal aged in their dream world previously.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #814 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:30:38 AM »

Cheebs annihilated, reality confirmed.

Mupepe · « **Reply #815 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:50:08 AM »

I watched it again last night. Did anyone else notice...

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They make it a huge point to show the him getting up, spinning the top and it falling over after each dream. Then they meet nerdy dot-head and they put him to sleep. he "wakes up" and goes to spin the top but doesn't do it, instead he just drops it. Then he sees molly and then dot-head dude interrupts him and he never actually spins it. Then he doesn't spin it for the rest of the movie except at the end.

He never woke up from indian dude's shit!

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P.S. Not actually subscribing to that theory but I just thought it was neat. He never sees

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Molly "awake" except for right after he "wakes up" from indiana boyo.

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Mupepe · « **Reply #816 on:** July 30, 2010, 12:10:57 PM »

NSFW text?
http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/in-your-dreams-e1280240379259.jpeg

Groogrux · « **Reply #817 on:** July 30, 2010, 01:15:43 PM »

Quote from: Rob Thomas on July 30, 2010, 12:10:57 PM

NSFW text?
http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/in-your-dreams-e1280240379259.jpeg

cool breeze · « **Reply #818 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:10:16 PM »

Quote from: Rebiak on July 30, 2010, 07:16:07 AM

Everybody says the kids haven't aged, but:

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Don't forget that

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Cobb has a memory of when him, Mal, and the kids were at the beach. They were younger than the time Cobb last saw them before he became a fugitive because it was the time before he and Mal did the dream experiments. You know it was before she believed she was still dreaming because she wasn't neglecting them saying they weren't her real children. Add the time before their dream experiments plus the time between them and her suicide and it could easily be 2 years.

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Raban · « **Reply #819 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »

I've only read the past couple pages, and if Willco's on the hate train for this movie I don't feel as bad saying this; movie felt way too much like The Matrix with Bourne-esque action in place of wire-fu. The ending was practically ripped straight from Total Recall. Anybody who felt the questions brought up about dreams were super thought-provoking should do themselves a favor and watch Waking Life.

I think Chris Nolan should just remake Heat, because he seems to be really gay for heist films atm. First the opening scene in TDK and practically all of Inception played out like a heist film.

Don't get me wrong, Inception was entertaining, but it didn't feel nearly as fun and new as I thought, going in.

Raban · « **Reply #820 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:28:39 PM »

Quote from: Rob Thomas on July 30, 2010, 12:10:57 PM

NSFW text?
http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/in-your-dreams-e1280240379259.jpeg

Barry Egan · « **Reply #821 on:** July 30, 2010, 08:03:43 PM »

Quote from: startselect on July 30, 2010, 04:07:22 PM

Anybody who felt the questions brought up about dreams were super thought-provoking should do themselves a favor and watch Waking Life.

Well, to Inceptions credit, it is an actual movie.

Raban · « **Reply #822 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:29:58 PM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on July 30, 2010, 08:03:43 PM

Quote from: startselect on July 30, 2010, 04:07:22 PM
Anybody who felt the questions brought up about dreams were super thought-provoking should do themselves a favor and watch Waking Life.

Well, to Inceptions credit, it is an actual movie.

I will admit, Waking Life's constant dialog probably isn't for everyone.

Ichirou · « **Reply #823 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:48:59 PM »

Quote from: startselect on July 30, 2010, 04:07:22 PM

I've only read the past couple pages, and if Willco's on the hate train for this movie I don't feel as bad saying this; movie felt way too much like The Matrix with Bourne-esque action in place of wire-fu. The ending was practically ripped straight from Total Recall. Anybody who felt the questions brought up about dreams were super thought-provoking should do themselves a favor and watch Waking Life.

I think Chris Nolan should just remake Heat, because he seems to be really gay for heist films atm. First the opening scene in TDK and practically all of Inception played out like a heist film.

Don't get me wrong, Inception was entertaining, but it didn't feel nearly as fun and new as I thought, going in.

Glad Willco's trolling makes you feel validated.

I agree with you overall, though. Just an okay movie. I can't understand how it's gotten over 20 pages of discussion thus far.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #824 on:** July 30, 2010, 10:59:52 PM »

Half of those twenty pages is Willco trolling. Half of that other half is people responding to his trolls.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #825 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:15:08 PM »

I wish I was trolling. People are still talking about this shit movie?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #826 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:42:24 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on July 30, 2010, 11:15:08 PM

I wish I was trolling. People are still talking about this shit movie?

It's the highest grossing movie for adults this year. Grown-ups have spoken with their dollars, Wilco.

Ichirou · « **Reply #827 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:43:06 PM »

Transformers 3 will gross higher, then Willco will have the last laugh.

Raban · « **Reply #828 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 30, 2010, 10:48:59 PM

Quote from: startselect on July 30, 2010, 04:07:22 PM
I've only read the past couple pages, and if Willco's on the hate train for this movie I don't feel as bad saying this; movie felt way too much like The Matrix with Bourne-esque action in place of wire-fu. The ending was practically ripped straight from Total Recall. Anybody who felt the questions brought up about dreams were super thought-provoking should do themselves a favor and watch Waking Life.

I think Chris Nolan should just remake Heat, because he seems to be really gay for heist films atm. First the opening scene in TDK and practically all of Inception played out like a heist film.

Don't get me wrong, Inception was entertaining, but it didn't feel nearly as fun and new as I thought, going in.

Glad Willco's trolling makes you feel validated.

I agree with you overall, though. Just an okay movie. I can't understand how it's gotten over 20 pages of discussion thus far.

Now I know my taste in films has leveled up. I posted an opinion about a movie and Ichirou AGREED with it?

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on July 30, 2010, 11:42:24 PM

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on July 30, 2010, 11:15:08 PM
I wish I was trolling. People are still talking about this shit movie?

It's the highest grossing movie for adults this year. Grown-ups have spoken with their dollars, Wilco.

The whole world spoke with their dollar already. All hail Avatar

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Raban · « **Reply #829 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:46:55 PM »

I vote we change the topic of discussion to the only good thing about Inception.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #830 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:47:11 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 30, 2010, 11:43:06 PM

Transformers 3 will gross higher, then Willco will have the last laugh.

Transformers isn't for adults, only manchildren.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #831 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »

Quote from: startselect on July 30, 2010, 11:43:52 PM

The whole world spoke with their dollar already. All hail Avatar
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Like Transformers 3, it's not a movie for adults.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #832 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »

Pretty sure Twilight outgrossed Inception.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #833 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:52:48 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on July 30, 2010, 11:50:58 PM

Pretty sure Twilight outgrossed Inception.

Another tweener movie like Transformers.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #834 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:54:33 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on July 30, 2010, 11:50:58 PM

Pretty sure Twilight outgrossed Inception.

Where will you be when Inception out-grosses Sherlock Holmes?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #835 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:08:16 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2010, 11:54:33 PM

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on July 30, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
Pretty sure Twilight outgrossed Inception.

Where will you be when Inception out-grosses Sherlock Holmes?

Watching actual entertainment.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #836 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:20:08 AM »

Like Transformers 3?

Raban · « **Reply #837 on:** July 31, 2010, 01:51:33 AM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on July 31, 2010, 01:31:27 AM

Quote from: startselect on July 30, 2010, 11:46:55 PM
I vote we change the topic of discussion to the only good thing about Inception.

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Marion Cotillard >>> Ellen Page

In your opinion, sure. I can't think of Cotillard without thinking of this:
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Groogrux · « **Reply #838 on:** July 31, 2010, 03:25:41 AM »

Ellen Page = WLTF

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #839 on:** July 31, 2010, 03:33:07 AM »

Yeah Page has a weird hotness ambiguity going on

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