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The Fake Shemp

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Holy shit. :lol

"10:41AM Q: I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?
Steve: You may not see it in certain areas."

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If a Bumper is necessary for your product to work, it should be included with all phones manufactured henceforth and free to anyone who buys a unit that did not include one. To give them out for free only until September 30th is pretty lame.

EDIT: You also don't blame everyone else for your design flaws. :lol
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Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: Steve Jobs demands you blow him
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If a Bumper is necessary for your product to work, it should be included with all phones manufactured henceforth and free to anyone who buys a unit that did not include one. To give them out for free only until September 30th is pretty lame.

EDIT: You also don't blame everyone else for your design flaws. :lol

Seriously, what is the logic of giving them out only for a limited period? Either it's a necessary part of the package or it isn't.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2010, 01:46:47 PM »
Uh, Jin, do you think if they were going to roll out a hardware fix they might have mentioned it at the conference, I dunno, where they were addressing it? What sounds more logical, your pipedream or the fact that Apple will now get $30 on top of all iPhone 4 purchases?
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If a Bumper is necessary for your product to work, it should be included with all phones manufactured henceforth and free to anyone who buys a unit that did not include one. To give them out for free only until September 30th is pretty lame.

They're seeing how things go until September 30th (i.e. waiting for it to blow over) and then seeing if they need to do anything else. I didn't get the impression that it was a hard and fast cut off date.  but I'm guessing it probably will blow over by then and they'll come out with a new model next year that buries this completely.  Maybe some stragglers who didn't get the case will fuss a bit and get denied extra coverage.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2010, 01:49:23 PM »
Q: Are you willing to make an apology to investors?
Steve: You know we hear from customers who love this phone and have a great experience with it, and we're doing a lot to help them with any issues they're seeing. To investors, you know, you invest in the company we are, so if the stock goes down $5... I don't think I owe them an apology.

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Where did you get that from?

The fact that Apple just said they'll give everyone a free case through September, and the Bumper is the only thing that has been proven to fix the signal ???

Shipments two months from now, meaning phones that are produced in Taiwan as we speak, meaning a possible hardware fix (insulating the antenna is very easy/phone production lines are  always suspect for small adjustments even mid-production cycle-- see HTC), is a more likely scenario than yours Federwang ::)

I would think the newest batch would have a hardware fix, but this Q&A implies it isn't going to happen:

10:40AM Q: Are you doing anything else to address the issue? Perhaps changing hardware?
Steve: You know, the 3GS has the same problem. We're getting reports from customers that this is better than the 3GS. So I don't know changing the antenna design would help -- I don't know what our next antenna design will look like.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2010, 01:54:40 PM »
Guys, his last name is Jobs.  Nothing is gonna happen to him.  It's written on the Rosetta Stone.

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« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2010, 01:56:20 PM »
If there was a hardware fix, Jobs would have said so. Sucks for anyone that buys an iPhone 4 after September 30th. Awfully convenient that the fix for the problem is a $30 piece of plastic manufactured by Apple.
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« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2010, 01:57:51 PM »
Third-party cases are not going to get refunded? Oh, Apple. :lol
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2010, 01:58:32 PM »
"Part of what we're learning in this 22 day process, is part of our role as leaders in the smartphone industry right now is to educate..."

Holy shit at the arrogance. :lol
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« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2010, 02:01:51 PM »
"It's human nature when someone or an organization gets really big, people try to tear it down... it's happening with us."

Apple is the victim. :rofl
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2010, 02:03:52 PM »
First of all, there are reports that the hardware fix is cheaper than $30 dollars, and it's being called a "quick brute force" solution. A more elegant fix is should be introduced with the CDMA model, or so the rumor goes.

Second of all, if they had mentioned it in the conference, THEN everyone would demand a recall because no one wants to own the defected model. As I said, small changes to hardware is very common, as I said sometimes its happens during a production cycle.

"Pipedream"? ::) Oh will, trying to pin the Apple fanboy label on me, are we?

Yes, because I'm sure in a press conference to address hardware complaints that Apple wouldn't be better served by announcing a long-term solution and a short-term one (free Bumpers). People are not going to return their iPhone 4, because they'd have to wait over 30 days. Don't be silly. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense, especially from a business perspective. Their stock went down 8%, Jobs would like it to go back up.
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« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2010, 02:05:17 PM »
Now Jobs is harping on the fact that the press is trying to tear Apple down, other phones have these problems, etc.

:lol

"I get emails about how great the phone is." :rofl
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2010, 02:08:40 PM »
You guys need to lay off Apple.  They just want to make good products for people who care about technology (and fashion.)  Steve is just saying his end of the story.  Why should they be held to such a high standard?  They've been on a roll for putting out quality products ever since the first ipod came out and they deserve to reward themselves by bragging a little. Or a lot, I don't care.  I celebrate with them, knowing that they'll probably serve me well for the rest of my life.  Sure, the cost may be high, but it's good motivation for working harder in life, so that I can afford the finer things.  Willco, apologize and take back your statements about Apple or you can kiss your forum goodbye.

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« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2010, 02:09:11 PM »
 :lol
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2010, 02:09:26 PM »
11:04AM Q: Is there a hardware redesign in this generation that could fix this problem?

A: You can go on the web and look at pictures of Nokia phones that ship with stickers on the back that say "don't touch here" -- you can go on YouTube and see these. We should you three phones today, all good phones. So right now the state of the art of the entire industry is that no one has solved this problem. Would I like Apple to be first? Yes. Can we make it better right now? Maybe, we'll see.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #78 on: July 16, 2010, 02:10:35 PM »
Oh wow

so I always get 5 bars in my apartment...

*downloads and installs update*

2 to 3 bars.

:rofl 

Never had a problem with dropped calls or anything, but that's pretty hilarious.  Somebody forgot to carry the Y for about 4 years or however long the phone has been out.

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« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2010, 02:10:54 PM »
"Maybe, we'll see." :smug
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2010, 02:10:57 PM »
Free bumpers for ALLLLLLL!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2010, 02:16:12 PM »
From Engadget:

11:13AM To be clear, Jobs was not happy with our question. "You guys talk to each other a lot."

11:12AM We asked if there was possibility of a software fix... based on the NYT article stating an inside source claimed there could be a fix of that type coming.

Steve had a long answer largely dismissing the question. Then Scott Forstall asked for a mic, and he said that the statement in the Times was "patently false."
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Is manabyte just quoting Steve Jobs  :lol

It's like Christians and Jesus, or Manabyte and Mel Gibson

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2010, 02:23:37 PM »
The conference where they invited major tech bloggers and pundits? I sure do, these people are the ones who will go back and blog about this so called solution so the message will trickle down to the rest of people who caught wind of this in the first place and made all the fuss.

You mean the conference where they invited major mainstream media and press, and was being discussed on cable networks that specialize in financial information and news? This became a big deal because their stock took a hit, not because of Internet bloggers.

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A total recall would cost Apple 1.5 billion dollars, you'd be stupid to think that they were going to announce it here, in front of this crowd that was responsible for the recent media shitstorm.

Uh, I never said anything about a recall, Jin. I said they are going to cover the case until September 30th, then you are going to have to pay for it or handle the phone a certain way.

There is no hardware fix, your reply is a pipedream. Apple will eat the cost of a piece of plastic that costs pennies to make, because when they charge $30 for it after September, they'll more than make up the cost of giving them for free for a couple of months and then some.

And yes, you don't have a major press conference, hastily cobbled together to address a design flaw that is battering the stock price right now, and not announce a hardware fix if there is one. That makes no sense, Jin. You seem to be basing your opinion on the hope that Apple is a benevolent company. It's a company. It wants to make money. Don't be dense.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2010, 02:25:43 PM »
Cool, folks outside the US get free Bumpers as well. Last minute answer.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2010, 02:31:44 PM »
So, do I get a free bumper?  I'm not gonna filter through all the rage in this thread. 
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« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2010, 02:34:51 PM »
Free Bumper until September 30th, or a refund if you bought one already. There will be giving out free third-party covers, but will not refund those if you bought them already.

After that, you have to pay for one, or if you believe Jinfash, Apple will pass on the prospect of making an additional $30 on each phone to drastically alter the design of the iPhone 4 on the manufacturing lines because Steve Jobs doesn't like money, just customers.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2010, 02:38:55 PM »
So, I just need to go to the store, or do I need to go to Apple's site or something.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2010, 02:47:53 PM »
I think the logical thing is the cases will just be a pack-in come september. Is that not what they are doing?

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2010, 04:52:11 PM »
over here in red ring country, we just smile and laugh at jobs' naivete and ineptitude when it comes to smokescreen deployment :smug

free apps for everyone, steve. once they get a free copy of bejeweled 2, it'll be like it never happened!
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2010, 05:11:42 PM »
I think its because Jobs escaped death so now he just doesn't give a shit. He knows know that there is a higher love.
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« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2010, 05:11:43 PM »
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2010, 06:47:14 PM »
Jinfash is right, Willco just doesn't want to admit he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.  Without a doubt they're working to see if there's a cheap and easy hardware solution they can implement quickly to make this shitstorm go away.
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« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2010, 06:48:03 PM »
Without a doubt they're working to see if there's a cheap and easy hardware solution they can implement quickly to make this shitstorm go away.

They found one, it's called the Bumper. You catch on quick! :p
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2010, 07:00:30 PM »
"Hey everyone, free Apple stickers when you send in a self-addressed stamped envelope!"
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2010, 07:01:44 PM »
 :lol :lol
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« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2010, 07:22:32 PM »
After watching CNN's videos of Steve walking around the stage reciting poetry in his black turtle-neck, I still don't know what the fuck is going on.  What the fuck is going on, 2010?

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« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2010, 03:11:24 PM »
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« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2010, 03:20:32 PM »
Apple is an international joke :lol
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« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2010, 05:28:12 PM »
so, what is the ultimate news that came out of this thing? I still want the iphone 4, but are they fixing the hardware? should I wait a bit longer?

also, the other day was the first time I made a call with an iphone 4 and it dropped a call.  I wondered why for a second, then realized the way I instinctively hold phones covers that one spot.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2010, 02:26:31 PM »
ZAGG, the creators of the invisiShield micro protective film (that I've been using ever since i bought my 3Gs) has announced that they're iPhone 4 version of the product will also coat the bezel thus solving the signal issue. :bow :bow
What makes me nervous about using it is that it's permanent and any little fuck up is going to be there
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2010, 05:21:46 PM »
I had no idea that term orginated with Apple and Jobs, I always associated it with conservatives (Creationism, GW, etc.)
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« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2010, 05:56:36 PM »
Damn, who knew Steve fucked Mrs. Federman in the poop chute?
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #105 on: July 22, 2010, 01:29:30 PM »
I just wanted to say, how awesome are the Droid commercials versus the Apple ones? Awesome futuristic Scifi shit vs. awkwardly staged family moments.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #106 on: July 22, 2010, 02:40:42 PM »
I think both are lame but the apple ones make me not want to own the product.

I saw one yesterday where a woman (don't think she was Asian; risky move for apple) uses facetime to tell her husband that she is pregnant.  It wasn't "we're having a baby", it was "remember that thing we were working on?" then you wait a few seconds to watch the faces contort and try to show emotions.  First thing I thought was "why would anyone willingly have children?".  Second was the idea that video is a substitute for human interaction.  Why can't there be an honest facetime ad where you try to find someone else in your contacts that owns an iphone 4, and when you do, you realize there is no purpose to a video call outside of the novelty.  The commercial ends with both people awkwardly looking at their phones.

I played with an iPhone 4 today.  I shouldn't have.  I knew my 3G was slow but I didn't know it was UGLY and slow.  :'(

That's how I felt when I messed around with a friends iphone 4.  I make myself feel better by thinking I'm waiting for the white version or for Verizon to get it.  Well, except I don't even have an iphone 3g.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #107 on: July 23, 2010, 01:02:56 AM »
Where did the reality distortion field joke come from anyways?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field
I had no idea that term orginated with Apple and Jobs, I always associated it with conservatives (Creationism, GW, etc.)

Yeah, that's pretty telling of the environment Jobs fosters.

But, seriously, look at the results. This phone, yeah, it has a design flaw. Yeah, Steve "Skeletal" Jobs is trotting out to spin the PR. But the iPhone has not only redefined the entire mobile phone landscape in the way iPods redefined personal music players, it has moved the company from a niche item to a mainstream producer in a highly competitive field. And don't get me started on how much the Macintosh changed mainstream computing. Jobs positive influence can be hated, but it can't be denied.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2010, 01:51:54 AM »
Not to mention, they now have a larger market cap than Microsoft. Yes, Apple could now in theory buy Microsoft. Now that's fucking reality distortion.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2010, 08:56:15 AM »
I think that has more to do with Ballmer than Jobs.

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« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2010, 08:58:21 AM »
I played with an iPhone 4 today.  I shouldn't have.  I knew my 3G was slow but I didn't know it was UGLY and slow.  :'(
This is how I felt using my 3g all day then using my wife's 4 at night. I'd venture to say the 4 is at least 3 times faster.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #112 on: August 31, 2010, 03:52:31 PM »
That gapin' hole that is the apple customers bootyhole is about to become more gaping... uhhh, er.
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« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2010, 04:10:04 PM »
i hope they bleached in preparation
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« Reply #114 on: August 31, 2010, 06:42:52 PM »
i hope they bleached in preparation
Apple users never bleach. By association with Jobs, lights shines out of our asses.

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #115 on: August 31, 2010, 08:00:53 PM »
I'm sick of Apple's conferences, they have one like every fucking month.
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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #116 on: August 31, 2010, 09:11:20 PM »
all I want is a reason not to buy a Froyo tablet in October
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« Reply #117 on: August 31, 2010, 09:20:53 PM »
you won't get that until january (or whenever that conference is next year)

you could get an ipad now, dick around with it and have fun until then, and then flip it for $50 less than what you paid and buy the new version

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Re: Impromptu Apple conference this Friday: But you must blow Jobs first
« Reply #118 on: August 31, 2010, 09:45:45 PM »
I'm sick of Apple's conferences, they have one like every fucking month.
Nah it's fanboys that stretch it out with ceaseless anticipation and the 'post orgasm glow' hysterics.
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