Author Topic: Arc Rise Fantasia - The Long Forgotten Gamecube RPG (Read 5125 times)

magus · « **on:** July 20, 2010, 12:42:47 PM »

this get released next week,i've read gamesradar review and they described it as the most generic and bland rpg ever,which sounds pretty believable considering an ex tales of scenario writer was involved with this game

but ehy it's not like there is much else to pick when it comes to jrpg on the wii so i guess beggars can't be choser

i guess the only other people that are going to check this out are the one who fawn all over yasunori mitsuda

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2010, 12:44:30 PM »

or who dont have jobs and pirate videogames like MAGUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

magus · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2010, 12:51:47 PM »

but then you guys would miss all my awesome replies

EDIT: apparently it's in store already now
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/20/arc-rise-fantasia-is-in-some-stores-now/

demi · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2010, 03:02:33 AM »

I didn't know this was a Gamecube game!

Gamecube

naff · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2010, 04:02:23 AM »

Quote from: demi on July 20, 2010, 12:44:30 PM

or who dont have jobs and pirate videogames like MAGUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait. What!? You have a job?

Ichirou · « **Reply #5 on:** July 28, 2010, 05:03:59 AM »

magus is just another Himuro.

Third · « **Reply #6 on:** July 28, 2010, 05:27:48 AM »

Is this any good? Don't know if I should spend my precious time and bandwith on it.

magus · « **Reply #7 on:** July 28, 2010, 05:35:58 AM »

join the club ichi

Ichirou · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2010, 05:59:45 AM »

Quote from: magus on July 28, 2010, 05:35:58 AM

join the club ichi

The piracy club?

magus · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2010, 06:03:56 AM »

yep
we'll share booty together
arrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Ichirou · « **Reply #10 on:** July 28, 2010, 06:06:08 AM »

Only booty I want is Himuro's black ass smothered in syrup.

demi · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2010, 10:38:28 AM »

Quote from: Third on July 28, 2010, 05:27:48 AM

Is this any good? Don't know if I should spend my precious time and bandwith on it.

I like it. Gamecube is back, baby

demi · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2010, 10:49:18 AM »

I should mention why I like it:

I have only put about 5 hours in. I'm at "Dragon Prison" which isn't that far. I've beaten one boss.

- The game is widescreen - no bars
- The game is colorful - what can I say, most Wii games are muted shit
- The game is playable with a Gamecube pad. It's a Gamecube game!
- The battle system is neat. It's if I had to describe it, a turn-based Grandia.
- You can grind weapons and unlock skills and attach them
- The characters aren't offensive.
- The story is pretty cliche, but I'm ok with that. See above, it's not offensive
- The dub, while ok it is pretty bad, is NOT as bad as we saw in the very first cutscene. That was just bad. Some characters actually put effort in. However there are moments where they just screw it up. Mostly when they have to make a sound effect.

I won't defend myself if you hate it, but I do like this game. Definitely consider checking it out, and at least playing up to the first boss. If you still hate it, dump it and don't force yourself. I don't consider this a Wii game. It is a Gamecube game.

Ichirou · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2010, 10:51:41 AM »

You're making me want to try this out. Too bad I don't have a Wii.

demi · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:00:21 AM »

I should also mention, sorry I forgot this:

- There are no random battles, enemies are on-screen (re: DQ9)

Ichirou · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:00:47 AM »

Always a plus.

Beezy · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:33:25 AM »

Quote from: demi on July 28, 2010, 10:49:18 AM

- The battle system is neat. It's if I had to describe it, a turn-based Grandia.

cool breeze · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:39:13 AM »

Quote

- The battle system is neat. It's if I had to describe it, a turn-based Grandia.

I'm interested now. Watching videos, it does look slightly grandia-ish, just as you say, turn-based instead of a timer for actions.

demi · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2010, 11:43:00 AM »

It's not so much Grandia in that I haven't figured out how to cancel enemy attacks, but that's what it feels like to me. Each turn you set up your plan of attack (Have a guy attack, have a guy use magic, have a guy use a special move). Then you hit "Start" and the turn plays out. Your characters will run up and attack first, while say an enemy is charging up to use a spell. You might kill this enemy before he pinches the spell out. You might heal before the enemy attacks you.

You can also use passive abilities like "Team Attacks" where a character will get a free attack in after a character attacks. Or one of the bonuses attached to your weapon at the time.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2010, 12:57:31 PM »

it's passable. worst story ever, though. the two big twists so far have been HUMILIATINGLY stupid.

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adele: i was your friend of 15 years, now i'm a major villain!

alf: lol me 2! sorry we annoyed you with all that chumminess and nostalgia up to this point! and the extravagant lengths we went to in order to break into our own city and prison for no good reason, and the faked up kidnapping -- well, we did it for the lulz. seriously, i myself can't fathom why adele and i went to all this trouble!

l'arc: WELL ISN'T THAT A BUMMER. AH WELL, TIME TO GET PAID.

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ryfia, rastan, cecille: man, this cave is boring. hey, l'arc!

l'arc: FUCK WHAT I AM ALWAYS ANGRY AND THIS IS NOT HELPING.

ryfia, rastan, cecille: WE'RE FROM OUTER SPACE!!!!!!! :trollface

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bonus EXTRA stupid:

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dynos: remember how i was like the most annoying boss fight in the early game and was thwarting you at every turn?

l'arc: I GUESS, MY ANGER ISSUES GIVE ME SHORT-TERM MEMORY DIFFICULTIES I THINK

dynos: cecille's my OLDER sister. we're from outer space. we cool? i mean, i've only been summoning the undead to harass you and made every effort to inexplicably murder you AND your rivals, but we cool? lemme join for a bit. blah blah blah imaginal rozone eesa crystals real pollution herp derp fuck.

l'arc: BOGGLE. OKAY.

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demi · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:40:54 PM »

How long have you been playing for? Did you get an early copy? That's like... way, way ahead of me and I've marathon'd it since last night

I also wish I didn't read those

Trent Dole · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:47:07 PM »

Wow, those are some epically stupid revelations.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:53:19 PM »

i got it early.

Beezy · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:58:40 PM »

magus · « **Reply #24 on:** July 29, 2010, 04:24:22 AM »

i played a little,wall of text later
is there any reason to switch weapon beside unlocking more skills?

Ichirou · « **Reply #25 on:** July 29, 2010, 09:03:08 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 28, 2010, 01:53:19 PM

i got it early.

Pirates everywhere up in this bitch.

demi · « **Reply #26 on:** July 29, 2010, 11:09:43 AM »

Quote from: magus on July 29, 2010, 04:24:22 AM

i played a little,wall of text later
is there any reason to switch weapon beside unlocking more skills?

No

magus · « **Reply #27 on:** July 29, 2010, 11:24:21 AM »

mmm i see

anyway i like what i played so far,the character are nice,the battle fast paced enough,the bosses hit hards and actualy even killed me and it basicaly has FF9 skill system meaning there are a lot of customization option

everybody says that the dub is horrible and the translation horrible but i don't find it that bad,i think the voice are well suited,arc is the smug hero,ryfia is the dumbass heroine and niko is the idiotic zell like buddy,the only voice that really bothers me is adele which sounds like mary poppins if she had potato in her mouth,i think they were trying to go for "dumb country girl" but they kinda missed the mark

one thing i don't understand is if the whole party shares their AP what reason do i have to use any other character other than the one who deals more damage for my actual attacking need?

demi · « **Reply #28 on:** July 29, 2010, 01:07:06 PM »

If you have the same character attack 3 times, it will be slower than having 3 separate people (or 2, and 1 healing/item) go. It is VERY noticable. And down the road you will learn about "Syncing" which is basically chaining. You can have multiple people use an Excel Art on an enemy, or all attack an enemy, or all use magic on an enemy and it will get stronger.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #29 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:19:49 PM »

it's a really REALLY good battle system, and it is why i am still playing despite the story's best attempts to make me stop

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #30 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:21:17 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 09:03:08 AM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 28, 2010, 01:53:19 PM
i got it early.

Pirates everywhere up in this bitch.

wait, what? i bought it from gamestop.

magus · « **Reply #31 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:21:32 PM »

Quote from: demi on July 29, 2010, 01:07:06 PM

If you have the same character attack 3 times, it will be slower than having 3 separate people (or 2, and 1 healing/item) go. It is VERY noticable. And down the road you will learn about "Syncing" which is basically chaining. You can have multiple people use an Excel Art on an enemy, or all attack an enemy, or all use magic on an enemy and it will get stronger.

i just chained magic with a single character by double casting the same spell so.....
what are the advantage to double casting in a party? game says i get more AP but i already regenerate 8 out of 10,doesn't seems worth the effort to distribuite my magic around

Ichirou · « **Reply #32 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:23:37 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 29, 2010, 02:21:17 PM

Quote from: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 09:03:08 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on July 28, 2010, 01:53:19 PM
i got it early.

Pirates everywhere up in this bitch.

wait, what? i bought it from gamestop.

Sorry, when you said you got it early I thought it was an euphemism for downloading it. magus put me in that frame of mind since he pirates pretty much everything he plays.

Vizzys · « **Reply #33 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:26:06 PM »

HERO OF JUSTICE

Ichirou · « **Reply #34 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:29:15 PM »

demi · « **Reply #35 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:56:41 PM »

Quote from: magus on July 29, 2010, 02:21:32 PM

Quote from: demi on July 29, 2010, 01:07:06 PM
If you have the same character attack 3 times, it will be slower than having 3 separate people (or 2, and 1 healing/item) go. It is VERY noticable. And down the road you will learn about "Syncing" which is basically chaining. You can have multiple people use an Excel Art on an enemy, or all attack an enemy, or all use magic on an enemy and it will get stronger.

i just chained magic with a single character by double casting the same spell so.....
what are the advantage to double casting in a party? game says i get more AP but i already regenerate 8 out of 10,doesn't seems worth the effort to distribuite my magic around

I'm not sure what you mean.

magus · « **Reply #36 on:** July 29, 2010, 05:41:55 PM »

i casted a fire spell twice with the same character and they linked together and got stronger

game says if i link using different character i get bonus AP

demi · « **Reply #37 on:** July 29, 2010, 05:46:56 PM »

Yeah, so use a different character to link. You aren't restricted to just one type of magic. You have to buy Gem Expansions, which let you attach more orbs, so others can use Fire magic for example

tiesto · « **Reply #38 on:** July 29, 2010, 05:48:27 PM »

Good battle system? Hmm... I'm in! Got a ton of gift certificates for my bday that I need to spend, so this'll be perfect.

magus · « **Reply #39 on:** July 29, 2010, 05:49:53 PM »

yea but if you put more gems of the same type you get stronger kind of magic and that's what i was saying,giving up stronger magic so you can get some bonus AP seems stupid

demi · « **Reply #40 on:** July 29, 2010, 05:55:35 PM »

Magic is extremely strong, you will find out.

One tip I can offer buy -lots- of potions. You will be guzzling them during boss fights when Ryfia runs out of Heal. Money is extremely generous in this game so go nuts.

magus · « **Reply #41 on:** July 29, 2010, 06:34:39 PM »

i know that magic is extremely strong,i just did like 2000 damage to the third boss by using the fire level 3 combination magic

problem is,i could use this magic because i put all my 3 orbs in a single character,if i gave 2 to one and 1 to another one i wouldn't be able to do so,that's why i keep saying it seems pointless to distribuite your orb between character

have you tried stealing from bosses? i didn't think about doing it so maybe i missed something important,i hope not

demi · « **Reply #42 on:** July 29, 2010, 06:44:07 PM »

Bosses are very difficult, I don't even bother trying to steal. However it is useful when doing those silly Guild quests. I got my first one that involved a boss fight (at least it had boss music anyway). It violated my anus so I left it alone.

I've also begun filling in my grids so I get the bonus from swords, some of them are very useful. Like the boss I'm on is an aquatic type, so I filled the water sword so he has Aquatic Bane+ on it now.

magus · « **Reply #43 on:** July 29, 2010, 07:12:40 PM »

did you know that some orb combination unlock new kind of magic?
like if you equip 1 wind orb and 1 water orb you get thunder magic

demi · « **Reply #44 on:** July 29, 2010, 07:28:49 PM »

Yes they explain that, magus. lol

demi · « **Reply #45 on:** July 29, 2010, 07:31:53 PM »

btw, I got to the first "twist" and HOLY GOD it is so hilarious, just like Prole said. I was like - what - WHAT - WUT

demi · « **Reply #46 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:29:29 AM »

The second spoiler wasn't as WUT, unfortunately

This game is so easy to grind in. Battles take like 5 seconds. I run into everything I see in dungeons.

magus · « **Reply #47 on:** July 30, 2010, 08:53:49 AM »

it wasn't nice of them to not put a save spot before the third boss,i had to kill it without a mage in my party,good thing at least i had the decency to trigger aqua slayer+

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i kinda suspected that someone in my party would leave so i grinded everyone weapon to max before defeating the guy but i didn't think half of my party would leave

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and regarding the stupid

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someone from your party turning evil isn't anything new but that one being girlnumbertwowhohasacrushonhemaincharcter is not,so thumbs up from me!

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EDIT:

I'M IN A CITY WITH A CASINO AND AN ARENA INSIDE
i kinda forgot the last time i played an rpg that had a world map,a casino and an arena :'(

naff · « **Reply #48 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:13:40 AM »

Sounds good....

magus · « **Reply #49 on:** July 30, 2010, 01:37:41 PM »

so 3 hours of poker netted me

- a sword that heals me everytime i murder some monster
- a pair of gloves that let me convert HP into special attack points
- a gun that give me +10 luck
- a wand that has a small chance to increase my max HP everytime i finish a battle (i bet the small chance is really small and that the HP increase is like 1 HP otherwise it would be to easy to broke the game

)
- a dagger that increase money drop
- a sword which i have no idea what it does,maybe another luck+ skill

did i mention this game is quite cool?

demi · « **Reply #50 on:** July 30, 2010, 01:44:47 PM »

Where's a casino? At? Doesnt matter now, since I'm way past it at this point

magus · « **Reply #51 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:01:11 PM »

i don't remember the name,it's the republic capital,the all-purple city,there is also an arena tough i still haven't visited it

the HP up wand is better than i tought,it already triggered 3 times giving me a 9 hp bonus each time for a total 27 bonus HP,it's not much but ehy! free stats!
umm by the way,does anybody know's what gun mastery,combo mastery,DEF stock and RES stock do?

demi · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2010, 05:53:34 PM »

I had to walk ALLLL the way back to the casino, but now I am playing POKER

Casinos

Damian79 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:04:09 PM »

What is with you and casinos?

demi · « **Reply #54 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:05:27 PM »

What is it with you and being dumb? Food for thought

Damian79 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:08:32 PM »

I can tell you why im dumb but you have to tell me why you like casinos then.

demi · « **Reply #56 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:12:59 PM »

I'm listening

Damian79 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:19:16 PM »

Well my schizophrenia like illness makes me very veryy lazy. So much so that i cant learn from the usual channels, unless i am pushed to do so. So i cant learn from reading a newspaper without a reason for example. So as a result i have learned very little in my 30 years of life and accomplished very little. So when i make stupid comments etc it is just part of my learning process. That is why i am dumb.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #58 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:50:39 AM »

Yeaaaaah, someone who doesnt risk anything, makes no mistakes, doesnt learn shit as a result, and then blames it on some vague made up condition is just Avoidant Personality disorder dude.

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I would know

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demi · « **Reply #59 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:55:20 AM »

Well, I like casinos cause they are an easy time waster and they give you nice goodies

Enjoy your disorder

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Author Topic: Arc Rise Fantasia - The Long Forgotten Gamecube RPG (Read 5125 times)