Author Topic: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT| (Read 64421 times)

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #240 on:** August 29, 2010, 02:58:30 AM »

Also the SP hasn't taught me shit about how to play as Zerg or Protoss (except for that small handful of missions.)

I'm looking forward to the expansions not just as a continuation of the story but more to get a handle on how to use the other two races. Should be a lot of fun, I wonder how they will handle it. I really like the little touches in this game, like the 8 bit loading screen when playing Lost Viking or the Protoss loading bars during the Protoss missions.

Homemade Milk · « **Reply #241 on:** August 29, 2010, 08:06:01 AM »

hmm, speaking of the "expansions", did they release information about if they were going to add new units with them? or just milk money out of us for more story?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #242 on:** August 29, 2010, 12:18:39 PM »

Dunno. Will be interesting to see if Wings of Liberty will be compatible with the next expansion in multiplayer, or will they add new units, ladders, and other stuff to ensure you have to buy it in order to play online.

In WoW you could still see and interact with Death Knights even if you didn't get WotLK. Soo would they allow you to play multiplayer against new units even if you didn't buy the new game? I'd imagine a patch would update the old game allowing you to see/interact with new units, just not be able to use them.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #243 on:** August 29, 2010, 01:31:04 PM »

[youtube=560,345]pHG40AdYfJ0[/youtube]

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #244 on:** August 29, 2010, 03:27:10 PM »

Omfg

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #245 on:** August 29, 2010, 05:05:28 PM »

that is awesome

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #246 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:08:49 PM »

Just bought my GOMtv ticket. $20 for streaming quality that's gonna be mediocre at best is a total ripoff but IT'S A REALLY REALLY REALLY BIG STARCRAFT 2 TOURNAMENT IN KOREA OMFOGMFOMFGOFMG

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #247 on:** September 04, 2010, 01:53:10 AM »

I'm going to get to 4v4 random gold tonight if it kills me. I don't want to see anything lower than a gold on my profile page. /homo

Homemade Milk · « **Reply #248 on:** September 04, 2010, 02:51:16 AM »

uh PD, you actually got my name wrong, its crumpit on the front page :|
bit of a misunderstanding there

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #249 on:** September 04, 2010, 06:53:53 PM »

Man the GSL already seems almost on par with any of the proleague stuff for Brood War in terms of the production, the prize money, and the attention being drawn. This is crazy. It's gonna be awesome as the best Brood War players start playing. So much for SC2 not taking off in Korea

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #250 on:** September 04, 2010, 07:42:38 PM »

*waits for Terran nerf patch*

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #251 on:** September 04, 2010, 08:15:35 PM »

Yeah like I said, that patch is scary. I'm gonna have to rethink how I play TvZ without tanks. Muta baneling is suddenly terrifying, and it kinda reminds me of the dynamic TvZ had in Brood War. I personally am not too huge on tons of siege tanks in TvP, so I'll be alright there.

Oh and speaking of OP Terran:

http://imgur.com/EczTf.jpg

TvP has somehow become both my best and favorite match-up. The best part is I came up with the opener I use now myself, and it actually works (so far)!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #252 on:** September 08, 2010, 03:34:35 PM »

lost 10 of my first 12 games yesterday, then lost some more throughout the day before getting a few cheap wins

nothing worse than going from 15 games above .500 to 5 games above .500

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #253 on:** September 08, 2010, 05:09:11 PM »

Quote from: The Business on September 08, 2010, 04:56:17 PM

Let's talk Terran openers.

fuck you!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

:'( :'(

[close]

ManaByte · « **Reply #254 on:** September 08, 2010, 05:12:33 PM »

Yes and as soon as you can get a SCV off to the side to build a new command center that you then fly over to your first expansions.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #255 on:** September 08, 2010, 07:30:31 PM »

Quote from: The Business on September 08, 2010, 04:56:17 PM

Let's talk Terran openers. Up until now I had been building a supply depot on my 10th SCV and then using my 11th to build my barracks (both blocking ramp) but was always hurting for money early in the game. I just tried using my 9th SCV to build my supply depot and using the same one to build my first barracks after that supply depot was complete, and then after that my second supply depot. I had way more money. Should I stick with that?

The "standard" opener for Terran vs any race is 10 depot, 12 rax, 13 gas, 15/16 orbital command. You just queue up another SCV while you're supply blocked and still building your first depot so that your 12th SCV will build automatically once the depot is done, and then you use the SCV that just finished the depot to build your rax. If you're constantly producing SCVs, you should be at 15 food when your rax finishes, and then you'll have enough money to get a marine and an orbital command immediately. Second depot doesn't need to come until after the marine and OC.

Pringo · « **Reply #256 on:** September 09, 2010, 11:37:19 PM »

Hey, a friend and I (along with some help from a post over on TL) figured out how to access all the VODs for the GSL with only a free account on GOM's site. I can post how to do it if anyone's interested. I don't know if anyone here cares about the GSL other than Optimo, and it looks like he already has the premium account.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #257 on:** September 10, 2010, 06:09:47 PM »

I'd like to know for next time lol. I don't want to pay again until I know that all the VODs are gonna be decent quality

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #258 on:** September 10, 2010, 06:23:41 PM »

I tried playing as T for the first time in a while in 4v4 last night and I was just distinguished mentally-challenged. I didn't know how to deal with probe harass.

Pringo · « **Reply #259 on:** September 11, 2010, 12:07:14 AM »

Quote from: OptimoPeach on September 10, 2010, 06:09:47 PM

I'd like to know for next time lol. I don't want to pay again until I know that all the VODs are gonna be decent quality

Hmm, it appears GOM found out about the exploit as it seems to have been patched. Too bad, I was hoping to get the rest of the tournament for free.

If you're looking for better quality VODs for the present however, some dude is posting the HD Korean videos to his YouTube account with the English language commentary added: http://www.youtube.com/user/maxijazzeee. The only issue with this is that the video follows the Korean commentators so sometimes the English commentary will be talking about stuff that looks to be off-screen. Also I'd bet on these videos getting taken down within a matter of days, but they're good for now.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #260 on:** September 11, 2010, 01:07:42 AM »

Nice, I was actually looking for that earlier when I wanted to link someone a game

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #261 on:** September 12, 2010, 01:06:32 AM »

That one base battlecruiser+stim push in TvP that some of the Koreans have been doing is so awesome. Now I see why BC's are getting nerfed

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #262 on:** September 12, 2010, 01:30:48 AM »

just deleted terran from the game, blizzard

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #263 on:** September 12, 2010, 04:03:50 AM »

Don't block at your ramp in TvT so he can't hit anything in siege mode from outside of the choke. Stimmed marauders bust tanks, so definitely get stim early. You've just got to try to keep your units spread out and catch him out of position. Also, try to keep control of the watchtowers so you can see him coming and prevent him from setting up on you. TvT is kind of a weird match up because both players can do so much stuff, especially at the start

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 12, 2010, 01:30:48 AM

just deleted terran from the game, blizzard

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #264 on:** September 16, 2010, 08:34:43 PM »

You have a higher ladder rating ("ladder points") than me

Does anyone know if that carries over when you get promoted?

I've been playing less cuz I'm killing myself trying to best my SM speedrun. I'm about ready to give up and come back to SC, but I want the patch to hit already

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #265 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:04:28 PM »

I played some tonight for the first time in a while. My friend and I are getting pretty decent 2v2. We should be in gold any time now. We need to start up some 2v2 again, Optimo.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #266 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:08:33 PM »

I really wish I had the time you guys do to play. I played the shit out of Brood Wars back in the day.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #267 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:25:10 PM »

I play maybe 10 games a week now.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #268 on:** September 17, 2010, 01:45:41 AM »

WHY THE FUCK DID I KEEP ON PLAYING UNTIL I LOST GOD FUCKING DAMN IT FUCK THIS GAME I SHOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME EASILY

FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

I WANT TO SMASH MY COMPUTER INTO A MILLION PIECES

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #269 on:** September 17, 2010, 02:02:55 AM »

Well ok I played again and beat another platinum player pretty handily (like I should have in the game before). I guess I'm high plat level now.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #270 on:** September 17, 2010, 07:25:18 AM »

I'm having a whole lot of fun with the SP i must admit, i love this game right now.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #271 on:** September 17, 2010, 06:32:16 PM »

Still haven't played all of the single player

Feel kinda guilty. One day I will

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 17, 2010, 01:45:41 AM

WHY THE FUCK DID I KEEP ON PLAYING UNTIL I LOST GOD FUCKING DAMN IT FUCK THIS GAME I SHOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME EASILY

FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

I WANT TO SMASH MY COMPUTER INTO A MILLION PIECES

Grats on platinum. Platinum to diamond is probably the easiest step up because there are so many scrubby diamond players.

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 16, 2010, 09:25:10 PM

I play maybe 10 games a week now.

Yeah I'm pretty much only playing on the weekends at this point. I have to get up at 4:30 in the morning during the week now, and I'm usually sick of sitting in front of a computer by the time I get home, so I'm really just not up for it on weeknights.

I don't think anyone here really cares about this, but a lot of huge names from SC:BW (JulyZerg, Nada, supposedly Boxer) are suddenly announcing their plans to pursue competition in SC2, which is AWESOME. I'm sure that it's at least due in part to how great the GSL has been so far

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #272 on:** September 17, 2010, 07:42:33 PM »

Well, I'm not in platinum yet, but it seems that's who I get paired up against. Now even my friend and I are playing 2v2 platinum teams (and losing), but we're still in Silver. WTF

And I've only played one SP mission.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #273 on:** September 19, 2010, 01:42:59 AM »

Man, 1v1 gets me so worked up. I just manhandled a fellow toss player who was ranked 7th in his plat league, but it was still totally nerve-racking. I expanded pretty much right after I had built 4 gateways and not too soon after that he attacked with a sizable stalker force. He annoyed me a bit, but I had enough units (a mix of zealots, stalkers, and sentries) to keep him at bay. My economy was just rolling along and I should have built a few more gateways, but I built a forge to start upgrading and a twilight council to upgrade zealot speed. He then did a prism drop, which I took out ridiculously easy with barely any probes lost.

So then I rolled over to his base and just wiped him the fuck out with my 2 weapons upgrade and speedlots and guardian shields. He had only *just* expanded. Maybe I am a diamond 1v1 player, but I just haven't played enough 1v1 to get promoted out of gold yet lol.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #274 on:** September 21, 2010, 06:43:07 PM »

Yeah they changed a whole bunch of the icons

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #275 on:** September 21, 2010, 07:35:41 PM »

Well shit, now I have to play tonight.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #276 on:** September 22, 2010, 02:42:55 PM »

Haven't played since the patch came out lol. I'll get on today

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #277 on:** September 22, 2010, 03:09:55 PM »

Me neither. And I don't have time tonight.

ManaByte · « **Reply #278 on:** September 22, 2010, 03:41:17 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 22, 2010, 02:42:55 PM

Haven't played since the patch came out lol. I'll get on today

We need to faceroll more people.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #279 on:** September 28, 2010, 06:19:02 PM »

I still really don't know how the promotion system works. Me and a friend got placed in gold 2v2 back when the game first came out, and we left it at like 11-3 or something. We played a bunch a few days ago and ended up getting it to 25-5, but it started matching us up with mid to high diamond teams (sometimes 1200+) around 16 or 17 wins. Last night we got matched up with (and destroyed by) a Terran and Protoss team that had the rank 1 player in my diamond division. We're still in gold. WTF IS THIS SHIT

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #280 on:** September 28, 2010, 08:34:19 PM »

My friend and I have been put against a bunch of diamond teams and we're in gold, too. It also says "even teams" when we face platinum teams...

Mandark · « **Reply #281 on:** September 29, 2010, 12:12:23 AM »

I placed into Bronze in 1v1 and bootstrapped my way up to Diamond. I was completely suffused with that warm, deluded feeling of false achievement that only videogames can give you.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #282 on:** September 30, 2010, 07:42:28 PM »

Ultralisks are terribly broken again. Seeing as Blizzard looks at the whole esports thing as a potential impetus for SC2's popularity, you think they'd be more careful about checking for inadvertent changes that are, ya know, fucking game-breaking -- especially if they're going to patch the game right before the finals of what is the game's biggest tournament so far. Shit happens, I guess.

I think the best part about this is that this change was intended as a fix for the ultra splash on buildings that was tweaked to OP-ness (haha oh penis) in the patch prior.

Oh yeah, the tournament:

Quote from: OptimoPeach on July 23, 2010, 10:09:48 PM

I hope IntoTheRainbow takes the tournament. He's a Brood War Protoss -> SC2 Terran convert like me, and he was kinda unappreciated in the Brood War days, so I'm pulling for him

This was before retail, way back during Day[9]'s KotB tournament. Fast forward to today and IntoTheRainbow is one series away from taking the entire GSL after some of the most lopsided victories in an SC2 tournament that I've ever seen. Do I know how to pick em or what?

ALMOST hope his Zerg opponent takes the tournament to quell some of the balance tears, but that's probably not gonna happen if they don't fix ultras in time

:zergcry

edit: Btw I think I'm watching more SC than playing it at this point. It's like the BW days, only now I don't suck QUITE as much

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #283 on:** October 01, 2010, 11:53:13 AM »

Yesterday I diced a Terran army, then threw three Ultras and some cracklings on his Planetarty Fortress while it was being healed by mmm, 7 SCVs with one medivac. I started focusing on other stuff since hey, no need to watch ownage. I look back and the fortress is still standing, hasn't taken much damage, the SCVs haven't been splash damaged. jesus fuck

Perhaps the initial range of the patch was too much, but getting rid of it entirely is fucking ridiculous.

ManaByte · « **Reply #284 on:** October 01, 2010, 12:40:25 PM »

No more Ultras for me in 2v2. Sigh. What now? Roach/Hydra rush?

ManaByte · « **Reply #285 on:** October 01, 2010, 04:29:26 PM »

They didn't ban enough hackers. Sick of starting a game to find a Thor in my base.

ManaByte · « **Reply #286 on:** October 01, 2010, 04:46:52 PM »

Just played a game against a Toss player who had an ENTIRE base built when I scouted and had like 15 void rays. Are people hacking just to protest the bans?

ManaByte · « **Reply #287 on:** October 01, 2010, 05:29:00 PM »

They need to plug up the holes quickly or else the game won't be playable anymore.

ManaByte · « **Reply #288 on:** October 01, 2010, 05:42:12 PM »

Fuck this shit. Just got Hydra rushed in the first minute.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #289 on:** October 01, 2010, 05:54:12 PM »

ManaByte · « **Reply #290 on:** October 01, 2010, 06:10:28 PM »

This guy messed up activating his hack thing because in chat he said 9ik9ik9ik9ik

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #291 on:** October 01, 2010, 07:11:53 PM »

Just report them. You can email them the replay somewhere too. Doubt people are gonna keep paying $60 for new copies of SC2 just so they can hack.

A few weeks back, some guy somehow managed to warp in immortals from warpgates by swapping in some code from alpha to make the option available. Apparently they never removed the code for the immortals on warp gates entirely, they just hid the option on warpgates

There were a bunch of replays and the guy actually ended up fessing up

btw, Boxer vs Idra

[youtube=560,345]r_RCBfSAHnM[/youtube]

edit: That creep spread is amazing. Totally worth a third queen. You can force so many scans to be wasted on creep tumors once it starts getting to mid like that. So annoying

ManaByte · « **Reply #292 on:** October 01, 2010, 07:26:42 PM »

Until they fix this shit I'm not playing anymore. Haven't won a match since the last patch and 4/5 of the games I played today were hackers cheating.

ManaByte · « **Reply #293 on:** October 01, 2010, 07:53:18 PM »

Another stealth buff for Terrans to go with the Ultra nerf: Point Defense Drones now count as structures.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #294 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:02:13 PM »

Yeah but the only thing that affects as far as I know is high templars not being able to use feedback on them anymore. I think I'm okay with that since they can just as well feedback the raven, but yeah I dunno why they even decided to change it in the first place

ManaByte · « **Reply #295 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:06:32 PM »

Fungal growth, corruption, feedback, or neural parasite have no effect on them. Fucks Zerg over more.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #296 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:12:20 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on October 01, 2010, 12:40:25 PM

No more Ultras for me in 2v2. Sigh. What now? Roach/Hydra rush?

I haven't built many Roaches/Hydras lately, been playing around with speedling/muta builds. Can't find a decent counter for mass Thors though.

I haven't seen any hackers, I'll check for them tonight I guess. $:-\$

ManaByte · « **Reply #297 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:13:17 PM »

Goodbye Zerg, Ultras now "WORKING AS INTENDED":

Quote

We did a little extra tracking on our end, and indeed, the Ultralisk bug existed at one point during the beta, so unfortunately, it's been around awhile and thus why many people thought it had been working as intended.

As it stands now, this unit is working as intended. As always though, we are continuing to keep a close eye on how this affects gameplay on multiple levels and will continue to watch for constructive feedback from the community.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #298 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:19:57 PM »

Ha I didn't know you could fungal growth it, and I've never once seen someone NP it before, but both are probably because there are better things to spend gas on in TvZ. I haven't seen a raven in TvZ since HSM wasn't a terrible, useless spell and TvZ was just marauder vs roach.

After seeing all the bugs that have popped up from the patch, I do wonder if it was even an intentional change. It's nowhere near as huge as the ultra thing. That's seriously ridiculous.

GSL finals are tonight. I'll post a free stream if someone puts one up

edit: WTF @ the above

Don't worry -- the thousands of nerds on TeamLiquid nerdraging in unison + IntoTheRainbow shitting all over the best Zerg player in the world should be enough for them to realize how bad ultralisks are now

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #299 on:** October 02, 2010, 12:25:08 AM »

glad i deleted terran from my game file

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