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Pringo · « **Reply #420 on:** March 19, 2011, 02:15:39 PM »

And the TSL has started: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TeamLiquidTV

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #421 on:** March 19, 2011, 02:40:37 PM »

GSL

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There's already a lot of butthurt going around about MC WOULDN'T WIN WITHOUT OVERPOWERED FORCE FIELDS. The truth is that performance last night was on par with what you see from the current top BW players when they're on their game -- perfection. People are already calling for a FF nerf, but it's not like he just spams them blindly. I seem to remember a lot of tears not too long ago over how Protoss relies so much on perfect force fields at times against both PvT and PvZ, yet MC doesn't seem to have much difficulty lol. He makes it almost impossible to engage him while also routinely picking off small groups of units effortlessly. He kinda forces you to attack so he can't just sit in your natural and force field your ramp all day, basically provoking you to suicide small portions of your army. I'm not just talking about his force fields, though. His builds were brilliant, and the stuff he pulled in the first game with the fake expand was an awesome mindfuck. There were also a lot of times where I was left scratching my head in wonder at how MC just had so many units. I guess that's what happens when your macro is nearly flawless and you're able to retain almost all of your army

I was pretty blown away if you can't tell. Zergs will undoubtedly adapt to this style should it become prevalent, but I'm convinced MC is going to remain a presence for a while, especially if he gets his PvT anywhere near his PvZ. He clearly has a keen understanding of the game. Then again, I was also convinced MVP was gonna repeat, so what do I know?

As for July, I can't fault him TOO too much. These types of shellackings happen to the best players, particularly when they're playing against such an unfamiliar style. I certainly hope this isn't the end of him, because truly good Zergs are in short supply these days.

I am pretty disappointed that the GSL finals seem to be cursed. It's hard to get excited for them anymore

edit: Just to clarify, although I don't think it would have made much of a difference last night, I wouldn't protest a slight FF nerf if it turns out that there's like no way to defend those crazy pushes

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Watching TSL. omg Starcraft weekend

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #422 on:** March 19, 2011, 04:10:01 PM »

holy shit @ the first game between FruitDealer and ThorZain

on the GSL

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If you let toss spam Sentries as zerg, you typically lose. It's almost as fatal as letting them get a third base up. July simply didn't handle his timing well. If he had burrow ready he could have done much better against the sentries. Even though FFs piss me off I can't call them imbalanced in the matchup given how July played.

MC also got Colosuses very late if at all, yet July rarely used any Hydra pressure. It's very hard to beat toss with just Roaches

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #423 on:** March 19, 2011, 04:48:04 PM »

holy shit Boxer disconnected

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #424 on:** March 20, 2011, 06:05:11 PM »

ohhhhhhhh

TSL sunday games

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Morrow just destroyed Jinro ha. July style hyper Baneling aggression totally devastates a greedy Terran.

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OptimoPeach · « **Reply #425 on:** March 24, 2011, 07:37:15 PM »

Crap I forgot about the Sunday games. I'll have to catch the VODs.

ThorZain was on point all the way through that series. I think I've actually become a closeted Zerg supporter

I cringe a little every time another Zerg gets knocked out of Code S in GSL, and I'm especially fond of Fruit Dealer, so it sucks that he's already out of it.

Boxer looked pretty average, but I'm mostly just glad that Protoss player didn't advance. That was some of the most boring PvT I've ever seen

GSL has all the team league games up already, so I'm working my way through those. Like last month's team league, its produced a lot of games that are like 100000x more exciting than anything we saw in the most recent GSL season.

IMLosira is gonna be my underdog pick for next season. I was wondering where he was ever since GSL S1

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #426 on:** March 30, 2011, 08:23:49 PM »

I'm almost all caught up on TSL and the GSL Globalleaguetournamentmastersoftheworldthing. Too much awesome to go all in depth, so here are some random thoughts on both. Spoilers ahoy

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Sad to see that virtually all the Team Liquid players are falling off in a big way. At least some of the other westerners are picking up the slack a bit.

I think Korea came into the TSL with some hubris lolol

Dimaga vs MVP was soooooo sick -- ya know, right up until someone lagged out because Blizzard was too lazy, greedy, or whatever their excuse was for not implementing LAN

White Ra gave me a nerdgasm in his game against MC

I know I mentioned TL sucking already, but Jinro has been especially disappointing as of late. Embarrassingly greedy play against July

MVP is looking pretty sharp, so I expect him to make it back to Code S with relative ease next season. He's probably my favorite player to watch these days. Nada is too greedy, July a tad too predictable at times, NesTea solid but boring. I suppose MC is on par with MVP for me, but that's about it. Anyway, here's hoping he can avoid falling into another random slump. edit: K I forgot about Losira. Looks like I have a representative of each race to be a fanboy for

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #427 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:25:58 PM »

The GSL world v Korea thing was the most epic e-sports event I've ever seen. Amazing, amazing

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I really thought the foreigners were gonna take it, oh man. Disappointing but they have nothing to be ashamed or disappointed over. Although I honestly think they would have won if they brought Tyler instead of Huk, who's overrated imo. Tyler could destroy July. And if White-Ra had simply run away when he saw the mass Queens he might have pulled it off.

I like July but his style seems built to be exploited by good Toss. He can dick around with any Terran with his eyes closed

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OptimoPeach · « **Reply #428 on:** April 01, 2011, 09:05:55 AM »

Good call on Tyler. I always forget about him. I suppose he wanted to stay in the US for MLG Dallas

And yeah, July's ZvP is far and away his worst match. Even ignoring MC's destruction of him in the most recent finals, he's always seemed to kinda struggle against mass gateways. It was pretty funny to see him killing colossi with banelings, though

Mandark · « **Reply #429 on:** April 02, 2011, 11:40:47 PM »

If you get the chance to watch Idra vs Huk from the current MLG Dallas (especially game 2, and ESPECIALLY without reading spoilers) then jump on it.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #430 on:** April 02, 2011, 11:56:41 PM »

^Gonna spoiler this questio even though I've only seen about three games total today

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Did that end up being the finals or something? I stopped watching a couple of hours ago. I saw a recast of Gretorp (my favorite non-pro Terran, btw) vs Huk g2 on Lost Temple where Huk got wrecked, missed the deciding game, came back to Huk vs Kiwikaki, and then gave up for good after Huk kept lagging out.

I've actually wanted to see Idra all day. The last I saw of him was his series in the TSL where he took a really embarrassing 2-1 loss against a Protoss named Crusher or something, and I was curious to see how he'd bounce back. He seemed kinda soft since leaving Korea

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #431 on:** April 02, 2011, 11:59:08 PM »

Indeed. ZvP is my favorite match up, and most frustrating

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Spoiled it for myself on twitter, but still disappointing to watch. I've learned a lot from Idra, I love watching him play, but it really seems like many players have figured him out.

ZvP is very tough right now. The Infestor change helps but it doesn't solve our early to mid game dilemma: what to do against heavy Sentry/Stalker pushes. I've begun to move away from Roaches and focus on Ling/Baneling/Muta more, which negates heavy Sentry builds. The metagame seems to be moving away from Roach/Hydra and more toward Ling/Baneling/Infestor. Yet in the GSL, TSL, and now MLG many zergs continue to play that heavy Roach style and get rocked by the same Toss builds over and over again. A lot of the discussion on the July v MC matchup revolved around people saying if July had burrow before MC's timing attacks, he could have held them off. Yet even with burrow you're still barely injuring Stalkers with each volley as they warp more in. Ling/Baneling can completely shut that strategy down.

Meh. I found Idra's US account and have been looking at his build orders in Toss games, and it's heavy heavy Roach nearly every time. Obviously I'm no pro gamer and Idra knows his shit more than I do. But I've just rarely seen that strategy work against the heavy Sentry builds Toss are using lately

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Mandark · « **Reply #432 on:** April 03, 2011, 12:19:13 AM »

Optimo:

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Nah, it's a pool stage game (don't ask me how this Rube Goldberg machine of a tournament's arranged; I've given up trying to understand it) from a bit earlier which they broadcast on replay because of the Huk/Kiwi lag.

It's just that the second game 1) is pretty epic with very good play from both sides, and 2) has a moment which is quickly becoming the talking point of the SC2 fanbase. It'll be a lot more fun to watch if you can avoid spoilers.

PS Not sure if you know the Cruncher story. Apparently Idra was BMing him between games, saying "Wow you're talented" after losing to collosus/void in the first game, and "It must suck when talent is involved" after winning the second. That's why Cruncher gave him the smiley face after trapping his roaches in a FF donut.

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PD (DON'T READ THIS OPTIMO):

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Well, Idra won the first game and was basically ahead of Huk the whole way in the 2nd, including the very end. Day9 says Idra's been doing a lot of speedling/bane on his stream recently, though he's been going for quick burrow for roach play in the few MLG games I've seen. He may whine about balance a lot, but he always seems to have an eye on the next step of the metagame, so I wouldn't worry about his tech choices getting obsolete.

Still worth watching that game even if it's been spoiled, as it's a hell of a fight. If SC2 is still being played competitively several years from now, it's going to be one of those "you remember that time when..." matches.

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For anyone to read:

I hope they do a vod of Day9 and DJWheat killing time and talking about old videogames, including Tasteless whupping up on little children in MvC at the arcade.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #433 on:** April 03, 2011, 12:36:44 AM »

Yea, Wheat, JP, and Day9 really made the best of a tough situation. It was like a really good State of the Game podcast heh

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Yea he's done it on stream to good results, but hasn't used it for MLG or TSL (granted, I didn't see the Kiwi match).

Even the second game was odd, given the resources he had. His ling army wasn't large enough to take advantage of Huk's army composition, which lacked HTs. Definitely some nice Baneling bombing but overall he threw away so many Brood Lords. It's certainly good to see him embracing Hive tech more though; just a couple months ago he seemed hesitant to. Overall a great series though

I think Idra has to be shocked that his US return hasn't gone as well as he thought it would (thus far). His NASL group looks tough too. Tyler, Sen, and Drewbie are very good. And of course the volitional nature of ZvZ will lead to some competitive matches with Zenio (again).

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OptimoPeach · « **Reply #434 on:** April 03, 2011, 02:52:20 PM »

I really wish I just stuck through all the problems last night. Half the replays are absent from the MLG site still, and I doubt VODs will be up until the event is done with.

Yeah, I knew all about Idra's BM with Cruncher. I literally loled at his smiley face. I was actually rooting for Idra because I really detest super-orthodox Protoss play, but that was too good

Watching MLG now but it's PvP at the moment

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #435 on:** April 03, 2011, 03:21:49 PM »

Huk vs Idra now. Again? Uhhh

This tournament is confusing

edit: lmfao another lag out in game two.

I remember watching Halo 1 pros at MLG like 8 years ago and thinking, "This will be amazing once they work out all the kinks in production."

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #436 on:** April 04, 2011, 03:07:48 PM »

Some VODs from the final day
http://www.livestream.com/theresidentevil

Not in HQ because MLG turned that feature off during the final day

Mandark · « **Reply #437 on:** April 04, 2011, 06:51:48 PM »

Finished last season in platinum, lost my placement match, got into masters.

I'll take it!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #438 on:** April 04, 2011, 07:03:24 PM »

Bah. Won my placement match, got put in diamond again. Definitely think I can make masters this time, now that I finally discovered the "1v1 preferences" button that was in-my-face for months.

Mandark · « **Reply #439 on:** April 04, 2011, 11:07:45 PM »

Which maps in the current pool are considered hard for zerg right now?

The only one I'm voting against currently is Delta Quadrant.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #440 on:** April 05, 2011, 01:00:02 AM »

I veto Backwater Gulch and Typhon Peaks. The first two simply have ridiculous lengths between the main and natural. Backwater Gulch is basically an invitation to 4-gate as a Toss can easily block your ramp and wreck your natural. Delta Quadrant also has a far away natural, but the quick third makes it fun at times; still, I use my third veto on it.

Protoss also complain about Backwater Gulch; it's real easy to wreck a Toss natural with speelings. That threat is probably why ZvP on that map almost always guarantees 4-gate.

I've seen good zerg players complain about Slag Pits on Team Liquid and GAF, but I actually like that map.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #441 on:** April 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »

Been playing a little bit again lately too. Two changes from Blizzard since I last played that I'm thrilled about:

You can change in-game hotkeys without violating the EULA now!

and

GSL maps in the ladder pool! Only two, but Tal'Darim Altar is one of my favorites at the moment, so that's enough to win me over

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #442 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:07:44 AM »

Tal'Darim Altar is cool. Pretty easy to hit natural expansions with drops or Muta attacks

oh dudes (well, Optimo/Mandark/Pringo) did you see the NASL schedule?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209251

Good lord that's impressive. I'm going to wait to see how the casters and production are, but right now the league is looking solid.

$5 off deal: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26924482&postcount=12519

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #443 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:10:26 PM »

It's so crazy that Mandark is in Masters league SCII. He knows all about politics, sports, and he's good at vidya too.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #444 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:33:31 PM »

I know! It's like the trifecta of manliness

That is indeed an insane lineup for the NASL. I'd say Moon vs Grubby is like the battle for Who Is the Bigger WC3 Disappointment, but we all knew WC3 was the inferior esport to begin with

Anyway, I'll pay just for access to the games, though I'll admit that no matter who they get for commentary, I'll still be pining for Tastless and Artosis -- especially Artosis. I've gone from loathing those guys circa GSL S1 to detesting just about everyone else. I even find Day[9] too abrasive for live play-by-play these days

Here's how the bracketing will go if anyone is curious: http://nasl.tv/Images/graphLarge.jpg

Meanwhile, GSL Ro4 was the other night. Epic games galore!

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #445 on:** April 08, 2011, 07:30:32 PM »

GSL finals tonight

Spooilers if you haven't seen Ro4 yet

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I hope MKP has greatly improved his TvT, not just because I don't want another boring 4-0, but also because I like him as a player. Also he's so dreamy in that androgynous ladyboy kind of way

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OptimoPeach · « **Reply #446 on:** April 12, 2011, 07:16:01 PM »

First day of the NASL today. Gretorp casting. Sold! It starts at 5:30 pst

edit: Dreamhack was also last night, or this morning, or however time works in Euroland. VODs can be found in this thread if you think you can stomach their awful overlay that takes up like 1/5 of the screen

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #447 on:** April 15, 2011, 04:05:05 AM »

Gretorp is an utterly atrocious caster imo...

NASL has been oddly disappointing in the production field, and the streams are so laggy I've yet to last an entire game. Saw some of the Artosis v Sheth game (lol) and some games today. No way I'm paying money for this at this stage.

The schedule is great, but right now the technical/presentation stuff is off, and the casting...yea. InControl would work pretty well with a good analytical caster; he's a good color commentary type guy, but falls apart when asked to do more than that (like Tasteless *ducks*).

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #448 on:** April 15, 2011, 07:22:59 PM »

Yeah Gretorp has been pretty bad. He slips into yelling like Husky too much, and sometimes his vocab when he's doing analysis is reminiscent of a Pitchfork review, which really distracts from when he's actually making a good point. Fwiw, I do think they're getting better already. I remember HATING Artosis back when GSL first started too

I had typical Justin.TV slideshow lag on the first day, but after that, nothing. The HD stream is of better quality than GOM's live feed, VODs go up instantly after the casts, and there have been some pretty solid (and a couple GSL Code S-quality) games so far. All in all, I'm glad I paid, and I was actally pretty hesitant to cough up the money. Even though it's no GSL on the whole, I think it's the next best thing, and the amount of games scheduled is nuts.

I'll let you know if it gets better, though

Btw, TeamLiquid has been getting raped in every tournament they show up to lately. They're gonna end up being as irrelevant as they were in BW :'(

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #449 on:** April 15, 2011, 07:48:52 PM »

I was pretty surprised to see Dignitas destroy them in the clan war a couple months ago. Dunno what's going on with them. Ret plays so greedily anyone can beat him in a tournament, Huk will most likely be bumped back to code a, Haypro is Haypro, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Jinro falls to code a (he's said he'll leave Korea if that happens); his code s group isn't a walkthrough.

I'd imagine the TL bigwigs are disappointed in Tyler, who is struggling while Toss are dominating everything. I really thought he was going to have a coming out party at MLG and get far in TSL. Maybe he's just going through a dry run

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #450 on:** April 15, 2011, 08:16:14 PM »

TLO is the one that disappoints me the most, if only because he was riding such a huge wave of hype coming out of beta. I remember his play was drawing comparisons to Boxer for its creativity back when he was placing top 3 in all of those tournaments. Then again, the line between creative and gimmicky is always kinda blurry in this game, and I think the top players just passed him by when it came down to the fundamentals. Hoping switching back to Terran can rejuvenate him, but Idra smashed him at Dreamhack

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #451 on:** April 16, 2011, 12:41:41 AM »

Heh forgot about TLO. He's definitely one of the first pro gamers who got me excited about SC2, and esports in general. I remember me and my brothers always talking about his videos, having dinner together watching Husky, HD, or Day9 cast his games lmao. Remember that video of him catching Reapers mid jump on a cliff with a fungal parasite?

But yea, since then he's been pretty meh.

TL basically has two very good European players (Jinro and Ret) and some other dudes. I still think that once things "click" again for Tyler, he'll start dominating. Protoss is at a very good place right now; they dominate zerg and are competitive with terran.

Meanwhile EG is getting better. Idra hasn't dominated recently as many expected, but he's had some good results recently. InControl was very surprising at MLG; I kinda wonder whether his NASL commitment might hurt his practice time. Machine did well at MLG, plus Idra lives with him so that's a huge benefit. And Axslav is putting up some good results too.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #452 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:37:27 PM »

Decided to watch TSL instead of NBA playoffs today heh. Both games were EPIC.

some spoilerz

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Boxer really surprised me. I had assumed Sen would simply roll over him, given Boxer's TvZ troubles. Looks like he's been training very hard, and he looked quite solid today. Marine, tanks, drops.

Morrow's match against HasuObs was also great. I think the matchup is the most broken in the game, yet the most fascinating and fun to play. I guess the only thing that I'd add is Morrow threw away so many Overlords in all the games. Really didn't understand the point of that

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NASL tonight, hopefully the lag isn't bad. Bummed MC won't be playing (he was on a plane at the time the match was scheduled, so it gets forfeited to his opponent), but there are some other good matches. Very excited to see Ret v Ace.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #453 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:59:35 PM »

I still have to watch Morrow vs HasuObs, but Sen vs Boxer was incredible. I was with you on who you thought was going to win. Happy to be proven wrong, though

I think there's been a match forfeited every day of the NASL so far, and it's ALWAYS the match I'm most looking forward to ugggggh. Btw, I'm already getting lag in the pregame show rofl.

Justin.tv

You gonna play tonight? I did like 20 ladder games today, so I should be able to make up for getting raped so hard last night

edit: NASL is awful right now LOL. Weird stuttering German guy, unwatchable framerate

Omg Gretorp had an Anchorman moment talking shit about Ret after that series

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #454 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:50:01 PM »

I'll be on soon. Got through the Ret v Ace games without much lag, gonna see if I can watch Machine's match too

Mandark · « **Reply #455 on:** April 17, 2011, 10:07:05 PM »

Hey, the When Cheese Fails guys are doing a cameo on NASL. Good for them.

Pringo · « **Reply #456 on:** April 17, 2011, 11:30:20 PM »

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Hey, the When Cheese Fails guys are doing a cameo on NASL. Good for them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=213859&currentpage=85#1684

iNcontroL's already trying to get them booted off the show.

First time actually sitting down and watching the NASL tonight and to be honest it's been pretty bad so far. They have a pretty darn good lineup but the technical issues they're having are so annoying. I swear I've been getting like 5 FPS or less for a good portion of the cast. Hopefully they can keep improving this because I can't see them sticking around for long if it doesn't.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #457 on:** April 18, 2011, 12:38:21 AM »

I like the idea of the cheese videos, but it's simply not funny, and in "I'm gonna curse and be vulgar to compensate for my lack of wit!" territory.

According to InControl, the NASL folks didn't consult him about map selection. That's weird as hell. Good to hear it's being fixed

Anyone else not have a problem with them including close position spawn possibilities on Metalopolis? Personally as a zerg I can't help but think it simply demands you play differently. Catz put on a "how to win" clinic in that position against Grubby last night. And against Protoss, if you're going 14 hatch you're basically asking to be owned no matter the position, unless it's a huge map...

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #458 on:** April 18, 2011, 02:19:10 PM »

GSL May
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427452

Code S starts tomorrow (well, like 3AM)

The $10 ticket was well spent last season, and I intend to buy another for this season.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #459 on:** April 18, 2011, 08:41:28 PM »

As far as the NASL goes, I'm fairly placated after seeing how humble and apologetic InControl is about all of the horrendous tech issues, crappy map choice, etc. Lag has been less frequent for me (though I did jump the gun on saying this once before), and I'll try to ignore that ridiculous fuck-up yesterday of airing Painuser vs Cloud out of order. Also, this might just be my Terran mancrush I have on Gretorp, but I really think he's doing better. Think he and InControl both have kinda found their comfort zone as far as casting goes.

That being said, I'm thrilled GSL is back. The worst thing I can say about the GSL these days is the breaks in between seasons feel too long

edit: No more Tastosis for Code A? Moletrap instead?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #460 on:** April 21, 2011, 11:33:13 PM »

Anyone watch the IGN Pro League today? Some info/stream link:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428120

Very impressive opening day. Some good matches, very good stream quality, and fun commentary (DJ Wheat and TotalBiscuit solo casting today, and HDStarCraft tomorrow).

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #461 on:** April 23, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »

Omg there's actually too much good SC2 to watch right now. I don't even know what to comment on.

GSL games have been great as usual aside from that one group that was all Terran. Liking the Code S upsets. The up and down matches are going to be packed with talent

Today's TSL produced what was probably one of its best series all season in MC vs ThorZain

I'm enjoying NASL more now that I've given up on watching games live. Still torn on whether I'll pay for this again, though. Between the stream lag, the myriad sound issues, games being broadcast out of order, matches being forfeited almost daily, etc., I'll finally stop waffling and say that I'm disappointed

And I'm JUST digging into the IGN games

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #462 on:** April 24, 2011, 03:01:23 AM »

TSL was great today. Epic MC/Thorzain series. The excitement of that match made the later IPL matches seem small heh, but they were still fun. I saw the final minutes of the last NASL match, which also featured MC (this time against Ret). What I saw was pretty awesome lol. Seems like the stream was fixed. I had some lag, but it was definitely better than usual.

Watched group E of GSL live, wow what a blast. Definitely lived up to the hype, as that group was stacked with great players.

I must say overall the TSL and IPL have been the most exciting SC2 events, group E of GSL aside. Of course once the later rounds of GSL begin it will be the best, but right now I'm loving these more US/European based tournaments. NASL isn't really a priority for me right now, although I'll be paying it more attention once the IPL ends.

Mandark · « **Reply #463 on:** April 25, 2011, 11:49:48 PM »

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662

Patch notez, as Blizzard tries to steer PvP away from inevitable 4gating.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #464 on:** April 26, 2011, 12:59:50 AM »

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I'm tired of casual play negatively affecting pro play (4gate being addressed in next patch). Rule changes should happen only when necessary

Will be interesting to hear more pros on this. It seems to me like this could lead to a slippery slope of unstable casual play, leading to more changes. 2 gate Zealot pressure against Zerg is going to be the next problem, just as it was earlier last year which caused them to increase Zealot build times.

I'd rather see something done about Sentries

Mandark · « **Reply #465 on:** May 07, 2011, 04:07:19 AM »

So NesTea and sC played a pretty decent game just now.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #466 on:** May 07, 2011, 02:48:48 PM »

That whole series is a must-watch. So much back and forth

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NESTEA

And poor Nada

I thought he was going to claw his way back into it halfway through game three. Would have loved to see him walk away with a championship. Oh well. Inca is looking like an absolute monster.

First PvZ finals! And more importantly, not another TvT!

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Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 26, 2011, 12:59:50 AM

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@TylerWasieleski
I'm tired of casual play negatively affecting pro play (4gate being addressed in next patch). Rule changes should happen only when necessary

Will be interesting to hear more pros on this. It seems to me like this could lead to a slippery slope of unstable casual play, leading to more changes. 2 gate Zealot pressure against Zerg is going to be the next problem, just as it was earlier last year which caused them to increase Zealot build times.

I'd rather see something done about Sentries

Now they're just doing a flat 20-second increase to warp gate research with no other changes, which is probably pretty reasonable for everyone

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #467 on:** May 07, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »

I was catching up on GSL last night and watched the NesTea v Anypro series. After that I noticed gom had a live stream available so I tuned in and saw the final minute of the NesTea v sC last game. Damn wish I didn't see that

I'm gonna watch the entire series today. Everyone is saying it was awesome

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #468 on:** May 13, 2011, 11:36:03 PM »

GSL finals tonight. No Terran!

I guess I want to see Inca win. Korea needs more great Protoss

On a side note, I'm like 9-11 since I started going just mass marine medivac in TvZ lol. I can actually split marines pretty well now

Mandark · « **Reply #469 on:** May 14, 2011, 01:53:07 AM »

Zerg 4eva, yo.

I'm about to stay up in the wee hours of the morning watching a couple Korean guys play a computer game against each other. Ten years ago I don't think I would have thought this would be possible, or even remotely a good thing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #470 on:** May 14, 2011, 12:51:42 PM »

Quote from: OptimoPeach on May 13, 2011, 11:36:03 PM

On a side note, I'm like 9-11 since I started going just mass marine medivac in TvZ lol. I can actually split marines pretty well now

I can attest to this. I was basically sitting in my base waiting for attacks lol. First few, I'd decimate your marines with Banelings. Then they start splitting and I start crying.

I'm still in Texas, dunno if I want to download the GOM player and possibly be caught by my southern relatives watching two Asian dudes playing vidyagames.

Nestea should be the favorite, and he says ZvP is a strong matchup for him but I tend to believe a worse toss player can take multiple games off a zerg no matter the skill difference. Will be fun to watch regardless.

ManaByte · « **Reply #471 on:** May 14, 2011, 04:50:55 PM »

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I'm still in Texas

Was wondering why you haven't been on. Been playing a lot the last couple days. We need to do some more 2s when you get home.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #472 on:** May 15, 2011, 02:23:00 AM »

MLG/GSL exchange deal
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222580

Whoa whoa, just heard about this. I'd imagine some folks will say foreigners are being given quite a leg up here, but coming in 1-4th in MLG pretty much means you should be at least good enough to compete with Code A folks; the players who get to go to Korea certainly won't be push overs. Looking back at the previous MLG, three of the four finalists are very good (Naniwa, SelecT, and Kiwikaki), with InControl being the most questionable person in the group (but still a good player obviously)

The benefits of this are going to be quite amazing. Top foreigners will get to compete and practice with some of the best players in the world, and 4 Koreans will get a chance to make very good money.

Mandark · « **Reply #473 on:** May 15, 2011, 02:37:29 AM »

http://itmejp.blip.tv/file/5143255/ <-- Discussion of the exchange about four minutes in. Worth listening to InControl's take.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #474 on:** May 17, 2011, 01:02:02 AM »

Gonna listen tonight/tomorrow, sweet. In the meantime

(nsfw, but no nudity)
http://kellymilkies.tumblr.com/post/5533930355/fhm-photo-shoot-pictures-and-article-u
$:-\$

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #475 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:15:04 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2011, 01:02:02 AM

Gonna listen tonight/tomorrow, sweet. In the meantime

(nsfw, but no nudity)
http://kellymilkies.tumblr.com/post/5533930355/fhm-photo-shoot-pictures-and-article-u
$:-\$

Did that link just auto-play music? Terrible.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #476 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:02:17 PM »

So...yea. GSL finals. Yea...

ManaByte · « **Reply #477 on:** May 28, 2011, 10:46:25 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #478 on:** May 28, 2011, 11:30:19 PM »

I want to watch, but I haven't beaten the WoL campaign yet lmao.

ManaByte · « **Reply #479 on:** May 31, 2011, 02:40:12 PM »

People who Auto-tune shit need to be gassed.

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