Author Topic: Pan's Labyrinth (Read 2829 times)

SantaC · « **on:** August 06, 2010, 06:11:53 PM »

What did you think of this movie? I just saw it and I must say that I am pleasantly surprised how the movie take a grip of you from the first minute to the very end. Never a dull moment! Also, El Capitano must the one of the most hated villains in movie history. What a douche.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:13:05 PM »

amazing movie

in b4 himu

Third · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:16:37 PM »

Brilliant movie. Absolutely perfect.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

;_;

Did she made it all up to escape the war trauma? Was everything happening for real? I still don't know...

Himu · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:06:12 PM »

Decent movie with crappy characters, writing, in your face symbolism and themes and editing.

Watch Spirit of the Beehive instead. Pan's Labyrinth done right and a big proponent of its creation; big influence, and an actual movie for adults.

BlackMage · « **Reply #4 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:07:49 PM »

it wasn't very good. it's the one movie I didn't like that every one else seems to love.

Third · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:38:17 PM »

Spirit of the Beehive? Never heard of it. Will watch.

But I know that I'll end up liking PL more because of how amazing it looks.

My unbiased comparisons will be posted soon.

Himu · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:39:04 PM »

I'm not expecting you to like it because unlike Pan's it does not coddle the viewer.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:44:24 PM »

Spirit of the Beehive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pan's Labyrinth

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** August 06, 2010, 09:18:37 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 06, 2010, 08:39:04 PM

I'm not expecting you to like it because unlike Pan's it does not coddle the viewer.

SMH

I'd tell you to blow that out your ass, but you haven't pooped in three days

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2010, 09:33:51 PM »

Thought it was interesting and different which is always good but it didn't really grab me the way the hype back then sort of set it up for.

I don't really remember a lot of it and I don't have an overwhelming urge to see it again which is never a good sign as I tend to like to rewatch movies I really liked a few times.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2010, 09:37:38 PM »

I know internet hyperbole is cheap, but between the mood I was in and the movie itself, I've never been more enraptured by a movie.

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2010, 11:25:22 PM »

Quote from: TEEEPO on August 06, 2010, 08:44:24 PM

Spirit of the Beehive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pan's Labyrinth

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chronovore · « **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2010, 11:54:37 PM »

Thanks for reminding me; will buy while I'm in the US, since Japanese copies are Japanese/Spanish with no Ingles available for gaijin/gringo.

Diunx · « **Reply #13 on:** August 07, 2010, 02:41:56 AM »

smh at the haters.

Cheebs · « **Reply #14 on:** August 07, 2010, 09:05:50 AM »

People hating on del Toro. REALLY? He is awesome. As is Pans. I prefer Alfonso Cuaron of that group of Mexican director pals though.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2010, 12:25:48 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on August 07, 2010, 09:05:50 AM

People hating on del Toro. REALLY? He is awesome. As is Pans. I prefer Alfonso Cuaron of that group of Mexican director pals though.

Who is "hating on del Toro"? I saw some people express an opinion about a movie. I hate this idea that there can only be one opinion on a single movie, or game, or book, or Tv show, or whatever.

Mupepe · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2010, 02:46:22 PM »

Pan's is perfect. My favorite movie.

I didn't really care for spirit of the beehive to be honest. Bored the shit out of me. Meh.

Third · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2010, 07:31:05 PM »

Quote from: Rob Thomas on August 07, 2010, 02:46:22 PM

I didn't really care for spirit of the beehive to be honest. Bored the shit out of me. Meh.

Just finished watching the movie. And I have to kinda agree on that...

I don't see many similarities with Pan's Labyrinth, to be honest. The only things the movies have in common are the spaced out girls and the Spanish language.

But the movie had something. I liked how it was filmed. Felt so eerie. And Ana is so cute in a non-pedo way.

So...Pan's Labirynth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spirit of the Beehive

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2010, 07:43:35 PM »

chick in beehive>chick in pan's

/fistfull

Himu · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2010, 08:08:53 PM »

Quote from: Third on August 07, 2010, 07:31:05 PM

Quote from: Rob Thomas on August 07, 2010, 02:46:22 PM
I didn't really care for spirit of the beehive to be honest. Bored the shit out of me. Meh.

Just finished watching the movie. And I have to kinda agree on that...

I don't see many similarities with Pan's Labyrinth, to be honest. The only things the movies have in common are the spaced out girls and the Spanish language.

But the movie had something. I liked how it was filmed. Felt so eerie. And Ana is so cute in a non-pedo way.

So...Pan's Labirynth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spirit of the Beehive

They're similar in that they explore civil war Spain through the eyes of a child. Both movies share one central theme: family. girl in Pan's has no family aside from her mother, and there's a giant emphasis on being the true daughter of some spirit dude. The captain is a man obsessed not with love, with on passing on his genes to a son. Beehive examines the destruction of the Spanish family unit due to the war. Notice that there is not one scene in Beehive where the family is together, aside from the two sisters.There is a big emphasis on family and a sense of being in both films, told solely through the naivete and utter gullibility of children.

Andddddd I called it.

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I'm not expecting you to like it because unlike Pan's it does not coddle the viewer.

Third · « **Reply #20 on:** August 08, 2010, 05:41:38 AM »

Who cares about symbolism. I want an entertaining movie also. And Beehive just isn't all that interesting besides its symbolism and use of metaphors. The people who don't catch the symbolism will fall asleep while watching Beehive.

Pan does not just offer symbolism, but it is also presented very well. You can watch it and think about the symbolism. Or you can just watch it and be blow away by the presentation without thinking about its undertone.

You can't really blame Beehive, though. It's made in 1973. It's good for what it is...

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2010, 12:46:09 PM »

Beehive is presented extremely well. It has really beautiful cinematography and editing.

Special effects != good presentation

Third · « **Reply #22 on:** August 08, 2010, 01:13:05 PM »

No, but the cinematography in Pan is more imaginative. The whole movie is more creative than Beehive. In Pan you can see the world the girl is imagining. In Beehive you can only see the girl.

Pan's presentation is epic, while Beehive's is more subtle. Both movies approach the concept differently. The more I think about Beehive, the more I like it. But I just like Pan's universal approach better.

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** August 08, 2010, 02:27:23 PM »

The fact that in Beehive you can only see the girl is WHY it's creative.

Cheebs · « **Reply #24 on:** August 08, 2010, 05:16:20 PM »

Del toro is hilarious and fun to listen to thus Pans wins.

Himu · « **Reply #25 on:** August 08, 2010, 05:35:40 PM »

Wow, solid argument.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #26 on:** August 08, 2010, 05:42:52 PM »

what do you expect from cheebs

Mupepe · « **Reply #27 on:** August 09, 2010, 10:52:01 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 08, 2010, 02:27:23 PM

The fact that in Beehive you can only see the girl is WHY it's creative.

Who cares about creativity when it's presented like a turd? There are tons of movies with great concept and terrible execution. Beehive is one of them. And you're inserting your own central point into Pan's to fit your critique. Yes, she cares about having her family, etc. But a huge, huge, huge, huge part of the movie is the visuals. Watch anything where Del Toro talks about the film. He makes it extremely obvious his focus was there. Movies don't have to be engaging in the same way. And i don't care how deep a movie is if the presentation reminds me of paint drying. A good artist finds a balance between both.

Either way, Third, ignore Himuro regarding Pan's. When he first saw it. He "trolled" how "bad" the cinematography was.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #28 on:** August 09, 2010, 12:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 07, 2010, 07:43:35 PM

chick in beehive>chick in pan's

/fistfull

beehive??

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** August 09, 2010, 02:53:54 PM »

Pan's didn't have bad cinematography. But it certainly had fucking annoying editing. The overuse of trees and dark transitions...ugh. So predictable editing.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #30 on:** August 09, 2010, 02:59:59 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 09, 2010, 02:53:54 PM

So predictable editing.

hahahahaaha

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #31 on:** August 09, 2010, 04:03:33 PM »

I read somewhere that Gianna Michaels had a part in this film, but she was cut out in the editing room. I'm not sure if they were joking or not.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #32 on:** August 09, 2010, 04:58:16 PM »

what the fuck does that even mean, himu

Mupepe · « **Reply #33 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:04:23 PM »

he means you knew when a scene was about to end. it pissed him off. He was like "ugh. it's about to change scenes. i wish it could have been a surprise"

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #34 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:06:39 PM »

that's stupid

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #35 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:09:45 PM »

If anyone was going to confirm or deny what I said, it would've been Mupepe

Himu · « **Reply #36 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:10:36 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on August 09, 2010, 05:06:39 PM

that's stupid

Not really. Since editing IS the movie, unpredictable editing makes a movie better because it's hard to predict. A lot of the tree shots were great, but to my memory, the editor uses them far too often as a transitional tool. This makes the editing feel canned and forced because I've already seen that trick play out in the story.

In short, it ruins immersion.

Himu · « **Reply #37 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:17:45 PM »

Editing can really bother me when watching a movie.

Like I was watching Invictus, and the part near the end where it's basically three minutes of slow motion. I wanted to gag and stuff my cock in the person's ear who edited that shit. You make use slow motion as tension. It's supposed to build up, and explode like a guy cumming on his first pair of tits. When I watched the credits I was looking for the editor, I was gritting my TEETH,"this better not be Clint. Clint is better than this." Thankfully it wasn't. Jesus Christ those two-three minutes of Invictus were awful.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #38 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:19:44 PM »

So basically this could all boil down to "Himuro is that fucking guy", amirite? I can imagine the movie going experience to be a... difficult one for anyone that joins you.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:24:26 PM »

Not exactly. I don't complain about it. I just keep a mental note. The only reason I talk about the editing on here is because it's online, and who gives a fuck about online discourse?

Mupepe · « **Reply #40 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:24:39 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on August 09, 2010, 05:09:45 PM

If anyone was going to confirm or deny what I said, it would've been Mupepe

I actually googled it to try to figure it out but I was hoping someone else would be able to chime in. I seriously spent a good 15 minutes trying to google-crack it.

Mupepe · « **Reply #41 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:25:27 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on August 09, 2010, 05:19:44 PM

So basically this could all boil down to "Himuro is that fucking guy", amirite? I can imagine the movie going experience to be a... difficult one for anyone that joins you.

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:27:43 PM »

WELL SORRY FOR GETTING FIDGETY WHEN I'M WATCHING TWO-THREE MINUTES OF SLOW MOTION, CORNELIUS

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #43 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:29:48 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 09, 2010, 05:24:26 PM

Not exactly. I don't complain about it. I just keep a mental note. The only reason I talk about the editing on here is because it's online, and who gives a fuck about online discourse?

Fuck, I was all set with a zinger when you had to end it like that. I hate it when my snide comments get preempted.

edit: so you're trying to tell me that shit isn't automatically cool when it's in slow motion?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #44 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:31:29 PM »

after I saw Inception my gut reaction was "boy, Pan's Labyrinth was a lot better"

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #45 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:33:04 PM »

I think it's funny that Himuro literally got angry enough to GRIT HIS TEETH because of a couple of minutes of a movie.

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:33:16 PM »

No.

I love slow motion. But it has to be done right. Just using slow motion doesn't make it cool.

My favorite example:

[youtube=560,345]xKJGccSHas8[/youtube]

0:41 - 1:25

If this was edited like Invictus' final play, the entire scene would have been in slow motion

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2010, 05:33:04 PM

I think it's funny that Himuro literally got angry enough to GRIT HIS TEETH because of a couple of minutes of a movie.

I'm just using hyperbole. The whole post is slathered in hyperbole. Why not go one step further?

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #47 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:34:22 PM »

Goddamn Himuro took the time to point out where the slow motion was in that scene. I'm really grateful for that, being that I'm new to the planet and all

Himu · « **Reply #48 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:36:40 PM »

you're welcome, honey

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #49 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:36:53 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on August 09, 2010, 05:33:16 PM

I'm just using hyperbole. The whole post is slathered in hyperbole. Why not go one step further?

Mmmm, hyperbolé

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #50 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:42:10 PM »

Himu is like That Guy who just discovered Rush

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #51 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:49:43 PM »

That's an open-ended dis, though. Discovered Rush via Moving Pictures, or via Roll the Bones?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #52 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:52:15 PM »

Album is irrelevant: thinking more along the lines of That Guy who goes on and on about the technical proficiency of said band while trashing anything else that doesn't meet his distinguished mentally-challenged complexity requirements

That Guy is basically Green Shinobi

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #53 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:56:02 PM »

Ah. Well put, PD

Himu · « **Reply #54 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:03:56 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2010, 05:52:15 PM

Album is irrelevant: thinking more along the lines of That Guy who goes on and on about the technical proficiency of said band while trashing anything else that doesn't meet his distinguished mentally-challenged complexity requirements

That Guy is basically Green Shinobi

That is beyond criminal.

Coming from someone who shits on Nolan for Batman shaky cam movies you've gone one step too far, PD.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #55 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:09:11 PM »

Murdered in the digital realm.

Himu · « **Reply #56 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:10:47 PM »

No, that's when you're put on ignore! Get your Green Shinobi-isms right!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #57 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:38:42 PM »

Where did I shit on Nolan for shaky cam? I love the Bourne trilogy for chrissakes

My problem with BB was the bad action scenes and lack of an interesting villain

Himu · « **Reply #58 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:42:43 PM »

Bad action scenes is actually what I'm talking about, so you know FIRST HAND what it's like for crappy technical issues to get in the way of your enjoyment of a film.

ps, I miss you PD. Why don't we talk anymore?

Bildi · « **Reply #59 on:** August 09, 2010, 08:33:54 PM »

It's probably a good movie, but I was expecting an awesome fantasy movie. Instead got a violent war movie so didn't enjoy it. Expectations can suck.

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Author Topic: Pan's Labyrinth (Read 2829 times)