The only good Metriod (update: Maybe not so good)

[Third]

third doesn't like a wii game?  shocker.

you just a pussy ass gamer, mang

You defending a wii game? shocker 

I like some Wii games. But I can't make myself like a shitty game. No matter what platform.

[Third]

What's different about the Cube controller? You're still gonna hit the A button with your right thumb...

How do you want to press the A button with your right thumb when you have to hold the controller like that? 

[demi]

I don't use skins like that for one. And all I do is tap the A button with my right thumb. I'm not sure how to explain it.

I hold the pad, then reach over and tap the A button. Do you really want a vid showing this or something? lol.

[demi]

Does health drop from enemies in this game? I havent got one single pellet.

[Third]

I know what you mean, demi. But I don't want to reach all the way to the left with my right hand to press the A button. It's not really convenient.
And you'll lose time while doing that. You don't seem to mind, and that's fine with me. But I think it's stupid. Especially during a heavy fight.
Pressing the B button would've been a better alternative for the ball morph. You could use your left index finger for pressing the button.

[demi]

You can dodge any attack thrown at you using the d-pad, no need to morph into a ball.

[iconoclast]

Just beat the first boss. If this game has more enemies like the one in the training area and not these babby flies and bugs, then this game will kick major ass. Lots of potential for an awesome game here...

[demi]

The giant purple thing? You will fight invisible chameleons that you have to scan to reveal. There's also some other surprises that you have to dodge.

Dodging works like Bayo. Just mash d-pad and she will flip and whoop and scoop anything.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I've watched all the vids that girl posted  so far. Looks rather tame yet lame and the cutscenes are terribad.  And at least in prime one you had to press a button for hot lock-on action.

[Barry Egan]

I think it looks pretty neat actually...as long as you can skip the cut-scenes...

[Great Rumbler]

As a weeaboo, I will watch every single cutscene and weep openly at the beautiful drama that unfolds.

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Or just go replay Metroid Prime, I don't know.

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[Third]

I think it looks pretty neat actually...as long as you can skip the cut-scenes...

You can't.  :'(

[iconoclast]

The giant purple thing? You will fight invisible chameleons that you have to scan to reveal. There's also some other surprises that you have to dodge.

Dodging works like Bayo. Just mash d-pad and she will flip and whoop and scoop anything.

Nah I meant that space spirate in the training area that actually attacked you. More regular enemies like that, less flies and bugs. But yeah, played further and fought some new enemies with actual patterns and fast attacks.

this game

Team Ninja is back.

[magus]

ok so

- game runs at 60 fps! very impressive
- you hold the wiimote sideway nes style
- keeping 1 pressed shot a charge beam,tapping 1 shots normaly,your shots auto aim
- you jump with 2,you can wall jump,it's much easier than in super metroid
- pressing A turns you into ball mode
- pointing the wiimote at the screen gives you a first person view
- which let you lock into stuff,if you lock into something you can shoot missile at it
- you can recharge your missile stock by holding the wiimote upward and pressing A,meaning you have infinite missiles
- moving as you are going to get hit,let you dodge,as demi said if you mash the D-Pad you'll dodge in fact there have been many times where i dodged when i just wanted to move around
- there have been a lot of needless melodramatic cutscenes done in CG,if you told me this game was done by square i would have believed you
- there is no music,only ambience sounds effect which i hate
- so far it has been somewhat boring,you run around,you mash 1 to shots bug around you and sometimes shot a missile or two at tougher targets
- the internet will declare it the greatest game ever no matter what
- i bet the black guy dies first,it's the only thing missing into making him king of stereotypes!
- brandnew probably hate my guts

that's about it

[Great Rumbler]

there is no music

Whaaaat?

[cool breeze]

I hope iconoclast and demi are right.

Worst case is they're wrong and I'll be too busy playing the better game coming out on that day, the Vanquish demo.

[Great Rumbler]

I hope iconoclast and demi are right.

Demi's always right!

[Beezy]

there is no music

Whaaaat?

seriously, wtf

[magus]

there is no music

Whaaaat?

well it's not like that there is absolute silence,it's kinda like zelda OOT dungeons,maybe a video is a better example

compare this
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
to this
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

there is a melody behind the super metroid music while the first video is just a "OOO OOO OOO" once in a while in what looks like a desperate attempt to spook you (which the game also tries with certain camera angle,and vegetation that move,heck the game even switch to a behind the shoulder view everytime you enter a cramped room for no apparent reason other than it looks more spooky )

EDIT: watching the super metroid video i just realized they removed the jingle that played when you found a new item

[Beezy]

EDIT: watching the super metroid video i just realized they removed the jingle that played when you found a new item

......

This is not a Metroid game.

[demi]

Here's some REAL TALK:

- This game isn't Prime
- This game is like Metroidnetta
- Enemies don't even drop health
- Rooms are closed off for instanced fighting, you cant just run away like a pussy
- If you die, you get dropped off maybe a couple rooms back so feel free to keep dying
- Metroid music has always sucked
- Yes the jingle from items is gone and sterile, big whoop
- Yes the story is lol
- Yes this game is pretty casual and doesnt emphasize exploration
- Yes there is definite room for speedrunning
- No it doesnt look like you can sequence break, since the game is pretty much A -> B
- There is no difficulty selection (maybe upon finishing game)

If I were to rank the games REAL TALK:

Prime > Metroidnetta > Corruption > Echoes

Run and tell dat... homeboy

[Great Rumbler]

demi

[iconoclast]

It's good so far. Team Ninja makes action games. They took Metroid and made a simplified action game out of it. It's linear, but there is still a bunch of hidden items to find in each room like missile upgrades and junk.

I really really hope this game has an unlockable hard mode. It would be amazing if they had tougher enemy spawns, faster projectiles, stricter timing on the dodge so you can't just mash it (this is the worst thing so far), and if they remove the ability to recharge your health (when your main health tank is at like 30%, you can hold the remote up and press and she'll recharge her health to 99. This is stupid).

Gotta go boost some DOA4 achievement right now so I'm done for a couple hours, but the game kicks ass so far. An action game even Nintendo fans can enjoy!

[demi]

Right I knew I forgot that... you cna recharge your health only up to 99 (no tanks) if you are at a certain low point.

[Third]

Reviews:

Wired - 9
Gamespot - 8.5
IGN - 8.5
Eurogamer - 8
GamesRadar - 7
Destructoid - 6.5
GameInformer - 6.25
G4tv - 2/5

[iconoclast]

Alright, WTF is up with these RE4, over-the-shoulder camera sections. You can't even shoot or run during these parts, you just walk slowly through the level until some scene happens. This is terrible.

Also, being able to mash the dpad in order to dodge is starting to kill the game for me. It basically takes no skill. They really needed another button to map the dodge/dash to, because this is way too automated. Oh well, will continue playing since someone bailed on me for DOA4 boosting.

[magus]

i can't find gamesradar review

[demi]

Yeah I noticed that when you walk into the GIRLS (yes the Girls) restrooms. I found an Accel Charge in the 2nd bathroom in the toilet stall... not sure if there was something in the first. Did you find anything in there?

[Third]

i can't find gamesradar review

CLICK

[Trent Dole]

I hear this is a whopping ten hours long.

[Third]

I hear this is a whopping ten hours long.

Yep, cutscenes included.
The game really has a lot of cutscenes, and they're pretty long too.

[magus]

i can't find gamesradar review

CLICK

thank you tough for some weird reason it said something about "not being able to view this outside of united states" and then gave me access anyway! 

I hear this is a whopping ten hours long.

according to this destructoid review i'm reading there are 2 hours worth of samus moping around and saying "BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY"

[iconoclast]

Yeah I noticed that when you walk into the GIRLS (yes the Girls) restrooms. I found an Accel Charge in the 2nd bathroom in the toilet stall... not sure if there was something in the first. Did you find anything in there?

Same. Didn't see anything in the first stall but got the accel charge in the second. Later on though there's a good 15~ minute section that controls like that. You just walk around the corridors until you trigger some scenes and move on with the story. It's lame.

[Third]

Just click on the link to get redirected, magus. I don't live in the us either. 

-edit-
oh, you got in

[demi]

Apparently Adam Malkovich is from Fusion... shows how much I care about story in these games

[demi]

according to this destructoid review i'm reading there are 2 hours worth of samus moping around and saying "BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY"

Probably talking about the very beginning. She does say "baby" a lot.

[Great Rumbler]

i can't find gamesradar review

CLICK

thank you tough for some weird reason it said something about "not being able to view this outside of united states" and then gave me access anyway! 

I hear this is a whopping ten hours long.

according to this destructoid review i'm reading there are 2 hours worth of samus moping around and saying "GEEGEEGEEBABYBABYBABY"

.

Apparently Adam Malkovich is from Fusion... shows how much I care about story in these games

[magus]

you know i really didn't mind the story in fusion because it mostly happened when you entered a new zone trough an elevator,it was kind of like metal gear ladder moment only with dialogue so it never feel intrusive

but here it's totaly overblown,it's like they were "dude we need cutscenes! let have samus rant over and over and over"

[iconoclast]

Previous Metroid games had a story and characters

[Great Rumbler]

Metroid Fantasy XIII

[demi]

Doesnt Magus play JAP RPGS exculsively? Why wuold you complain about this?

[magus]

ahahahahahah i swear this is the thing that everybody tells to me everytime i complain about cutscenes

my problem isn't that there are cutscene,my problem is that these cutscene are bad! they are boring,numerous and add nothing to the plot except desperate attempt at drama!
i couldn't give a fuck if samus gave the finger to his commander,there is no reason to recap the plot of super metroid as it has nothing to do with this game yet the game is still more than happy than wasting 4 minutes on it,it takes 30 seconds to say "samus hear a distress signal and heads on a mysterious ship" yet the game is like "a baby signal! it's called a baby signal because it wants to attract attention! like a baby! did i say baby yet? is there any other way i can waste some other time?"

it's like when i played peace walker
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

these 5 minutes here do not bring snake closer to metal gear,there is no big revelation,it doesn't make the plot move forward,this is here just so snake can open his big mouth and go "BLABLABLA WARWARWARWAR"

in short the rule is pretty simple,if you can remove a particular cutscene and the story still makes sense then that cutscene is pointless and bad

[Himu]

jesus christ

what have nintendo done?

[magus]

you know himuro i gave you lot of flack for all the bad things you said on final fantasy 13 but i think i'm finaly starting to understand why you do so because what great rumbler has said might not have been to off

[Himu]

do tell

[iconoclast]

There's really not that many cutscenes. There's several of them in quick succession toward the start of the game, but once the game gets rolling they are pretty infrequent. No idea how far in I am though, so they might start pouring them on again later.

[EmCeeGrammar]

jesus christ

what have nintendo done?

Gave way too much leeway to Sakomoto and team ninja. Hopefully after Donkey Kong Country 6 comes out this year Retro start working on Super Metroid Prime for Wii 2.

[TakingBackSunday]

This is pretty rad, but I'm having a pretty tough time using the dodge move in coordination with the rest of my attacks–seems to happen way too randomly.  Also, the finish move is fucking stupid and hard to even initiate in the first place.

"jump on top of enemy"

okay, I'ma do this

*jumps on top, loses 15 HP*

wtf.

And yes, the RE4 over the shoulder shit is just mindnumbingly awful.  Game looks great and for the most part plays great, though.  Solid 8 so far.

[iconoclast]

Most of the time you have to incapacitate them first in order to do her finishing move. Like those two-legged guys that try to jump on you all the time, you can freeze their foot with a charged shot and then jump on their head. Some enemies just get knocked down, then you can run right into them and do her finisher.

[etiolate]

fuck you sakamoto. your dumb ass got the keys to something bigger than you can comprehend

you're the EviLore of metroid

[magus]

i have no trouble jumping on top of enemies but it feels a little weird,i mean this isn't super mario you know!
uh anyway i defeated the second boss and it was just a matter of tapping the D-Pad to spamming dodge and shooting some missile's at it (so basicaly it was like the first boss) i don't know,i don't think it's bad but it's definitely not very good either,it's at least a new game instead of a rethread of something so i guess they are at least trying

also iconoclast is right,there hasn't been a cutscene in a while
thank goodness might i add!

[TakingBackSunday]

This game is absolutely not bad.  It's good.  Hell, it's great.  It's just a little jarring.  magus you hate like everything that you pirate.

[magus]

- brandnew probably hate my guts

see? i got this right

[bork]

Installing now.

Does anyone know if you can just rip Metroid Prime Trilogy and play it off an HDD now?  I read something about the game having issues as an ISO, but that was like a year ago.

[Wario64]

what's with the random forced FPS mode where you have to scan something in order to initiate the cutscene?

[etiolate]

This is probably the first mainline Metroid game where an 8/10 is where the reviews top out.

[bork]

The game kinda reminds me of "My First Ninja Gaiden" or something.  Like a toned-down version of that engine for the Wii, which I guess makes sense for that crowd.  Seems pretty fun so far, and the controls work pretty well overall.  The abundance of cut scenes is definitely annoying, but the real-time ones are pretty impressive for the hardware.  I think 8/10 will end up being a pretty fitting score. 

If you don't go in expecting this to be like a full-on Metroidvania and treat it as a more straight-forward action game, you'll probably enjoy it.

[Don Flamenco]

tempting to buy a wii, hack it, and play this tonight.  the alternative is waiting to borrow my parents' wii and get the game on tuesday...

[etiolate]

The game kinda reminds me of "My First Ninja Gaiden" or something.  Like a toned-down version of that engine for the Wii, which I guess makes sense for that crowd.  Seems pretty fun so far, and the controls work pretty well overall.  The abundance of cut scenes is definitely annoying, but the real-time ones are pretty impressive for the hardware.  I think 8/10 will end up being a pretty fitting score. 

If you don't go in expecting this to be like a full-on Metroidvania and treat it as a more straight-forward action game, you'll probably enjoy it.

The problem is there's a shitload of action games out there and a lack of high quality adventure. The only thing making this stick out is the Metroid label, otherwise it would be lost in the mist.

[demi]

Metroid doesn't adhere to the common methods of ludology. I feel it isn't worth mentioning in the same breath as such epics as Shadow of the Colossus and Psychonauts.