3DS Conference - READ OP

[EmCeeGrammar]

Jesus fuck at that price, about 300 usd!  I know nintendo likes to make a profit on every unit sold, but who are they trying to sell this to!

[cool breeze]

Capcom is rocking hard with the 3DS

RE4/5 Mercenaries based game 
new RE4/5 style game
Megaman Legend 3

Capcom

[Bebpo]

just coming in to lolz at the price, 2011 date, and that the software reel looked like psp outside RE and MGS3.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

300 bucks for a fucking portable?  lol

Yeah, no thanks.

[MCD]

$300?

Nintendo is way too generous.

[Positive Touch]

MEGA MAN LEGENDS THREE HOLY FUCKING CHRIST JESUS YESYESYES FINALYY AFTER TEN YEARS OH MY GOD THIS IS BEST DAYYYYY YESSSSSSS

[Stoney Mason]

System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.

[EmCeeGrammar]

System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.

It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.

[Bebpo]

System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.

It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.

IIRC, the price is the same price as the Wii at launch.

The difference is just the exchange rate was normal then and sucks now.  Still they're not going to price it in foreign countries based on temporary swings in exchange rate.  It'll be $250 in the US at launch.

[cool breeze]

wow, Ridge Racer does look worse than the PSP games

and what is that game before Monkey Ball in the software trailer?

gaf says chocobo racing...wtf? but the guy is off the chocobo and slashing people.  I thought it was a new crystal chronicles game.

[Stoney Mason]

System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.

It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.

Yeah but there is a lot of actual tech here in this one. Not to mention the fact that they don't believe in taking a bath on the hardware. I guess I always assumed it would be pricey. I still think whenever it launches in America it will do huge numbers at whatever price. We'll see if that initial nerd enthusiasm spills over to the mass market though.  

[cool breeze]

$300 is a lot.  But even if it is priced the same as the Wii at launch, the Wii was a total ripoff.  Basically, $300 for the 3DS is more reasonable than what Nintendo did with the Wii.

A lot of the games do seem PSP quality and that's what would be expected from Nintendo.  The DS had PS1 quality of terrible 3D games.  It's only because the Sony slapped their dick on the table with the PSP at the same time that ~Dreamcast/PS2 graphics on a handheld don't seem that amazing now.  Plus the iphone has some great looking games.  I'm guessing that a lot of the games are just rushed to be out and the Resident Evil games are more what to expect.  And all these games look smooth (except ridge racer lol) and will be in 3D, so that is a big deal and puts it over the PSP. 

btw, the fighting design is still a bit ugly.  the start/home/select bit under the screen reminds me of those Jaguar button sheets, and the power button where the start/select were on the DS seems weird.

I guess it's good to know that Nintendo wants more money and will probably redesign the beast by 2012 or something.

[Himu]

wii was 250 not 300, people.

[cool breeze]

wii was 250 not 300, people.

Talking about yen here.  Wii was 25000 yen at launch and the 3DS will be too.  The $300 is just the yen converted to dollar.  Probably won't be $300 dollars in America, probably around $250, but the point is that it's roughly the same price as the Wii.  And the wii was a ripoff at that price.

[cool breeze]

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both resident evil games look so good

capcom

The one will Jill looks like it will be much slower than RE4/5.  The 3D effect of zombies walking towards you will be awesome.

[magus]

personaly i don't understand why everybody is excited... nintendo is making a bunch of ports and rereleasing all of his stuff which sells gazillion to the common man but that i can't personaly stand anymore like animal crossing and mario kart,the only exception to this is kid icarus which is a rail shooter,not what i would call my cup of tea

konami is making a port of metal gear,capcom a port of street fighter 4 and a resident evil game i'm not even sure if it's new or not,tecmo a port of dead or alive

i mean i can already play all this stuff somewhere else,where are the new games?

[maxy]

$300 for a handheld is an absolute disaster...unless they plan to drop the price within first 1.5 years this will be totally rejected by mass market...$100 price drop
DS has sold 100+ millions because of parents and their small greedy kids...imagine a parent with 3 kids,he has to spend $1000+ on some videogame system,has to buy 3 mobile phones since everybody has a phone now(and phones have decent games now)...lol

Mass market has no loyalty,Nintendo will learn that one day,I'm 100% sure in that.

Comparing it with Wii is unfair,Wii is a home console and it had a "revolutionary" gimmick...motion controls,casuals went crazy about it

3D is 3D,even today i don't see much hype about 3D in 3DS,certainly not in casual circles.

[AdmiralViscen]

System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.

It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.

IIRC, the price is the same price as the Wii at launch.

The difference is just the exchange rate was normal then and sucks now.  Still they're not going to price it in foreign countries based on temporary swings in exchange rate.  It'll be $250 in the US at launch.

Didn't Nintendo actually increase the price of the Wii or DS or something in Europe sometime in the last year due to exchange rate?

[EmCeeGrammar]

There's still an american conference at 1pm est time right?  Maybe they'll announce the U.S. price/date, and maybe some wii localizations we've been waiting on.

[TripleA]

Ah yes, tripleA being dumb as per usual

Or maybe it's only reasonable to expect Nintendo to get this online shit right next time around.

It's 'next time' now.

[maxy]

What I don't understand is why RE looks like X360/PS3 and all the other stuff looks like PSP. Ridge Racer looks worse than PSP in fact. Even Asphalt 3DS looks better.

1.New system launch...all sorts of crap will sell,early adapters want to test their new shiny device...why waste money,maximize profits

2.First Nintendo system with shaders,not many Japanese devs are good with that(even in 2010),PS2,PSP,Iphone ports

3.Capcom is good at that

[Bebpo]

Even at $250-300, 3DS will do fine in the first few months like everything does and then when it starts to wane they release the updated model at $200-220 and it takes off huge.  

[Bebpo]

RE looks good because Capcom/Kojima know how to hide stuff in tech demos.

3DS looks like you'll be able to squeeze good visuals with clever corner cutting

...and we're just going to have to get used to polygon starved models/environments in handheld games :\ 

[naff]

Ipod Touch - $229 - 1 TouchScreen, Apple A4 SoC (Cortex A8 + PowerVR GPU ~1ghz clock speed), 1 camera, solid web browser/music player etc, some decent games. Sells great at 229.

3DS - $250 -> $300 - 2 screens, (rumoured) 2 x ARM 11 266mhz processors, 1 x 133 mhz gpu (underclocked Pica200 reportedly), 3D OMG NO GLASSES, face buttons, DPad, thumbstick etc for REAL gaming, killer software line up, GHOST DATA. And the usual host of other perfunctory crap (web browser will be shit, won't be as functional or "useful" as Ipod Touch, but we here to play games right?).

DS - (2 processors 1 x 33mhz, 1 x 66mhz, gpu )

PSP -  

3DS is the first time i've started to consider buying a handheld system at launch, and the first time I've even wanted a handheld since GB colour. Nintendo

[maxy]

RE looks genuinely good. You can't do the shit you see with some clever tricks. 3DS has good hardware.

Mass market has no loyalty,Nintendo will learn that one day

They already learned that in the 90s, dude.

3DS will sell like hotcakes.

Just like GameCube did or DS in its first year or PS3??...nothing is set in stone,things can change overnight

People thought that PS3 will sell like hotcakes also...this is like everything in life,luck plays a big role...right place,right time
 

[EmCeeGrammar]

RE looks good because Capcom/Kojima know how to hide stuff in tech demos.

3DS looks like you'll be able to squeeze good visuals with clever corner cutting

...and we're just going to have to get used to polygon starved models/environments in handheld games :\ 

It's probably a compromise to allow for an acceptable battery life. I don't have a problem with that.  But then I get bothered by the asymmetrical size of the screens or the analog where I would like the dpad to be, etc.

[TripleA]

3DS has good hardware.

Compared to the DS? Yes.

Compared to everything else? No.

With less than 100MB of RAM, just how much multi-tasking can be done on the 3DS?

[magus]

maxy - i doubt japanese can resist the allure of stuff like layton,love plus (it's a million seller right?) and the inevitable pokemon game,they might as well price the thing 600$ but everybody would still buy it for the chance to play the same stuff over and over

[SantaC]

wow Tales of the Abyss 3DS!

SOOOOOOOOLD

[magus]

wow Tales of the Abyss 3DS!

SOOOOOOOOLD

i heard it's just another port

[SantaC]

wow Tales of the Abyss 3DS!

SOOOOOOOOLD

i heard it's just another port

milk milk milk

[Sho Nuff]

I'd also be really wary of dropping bank at launch given the fact that the DSi is region locked.

[magus]

you know i just realized something.....
http://n3ds.blog6.fc2.com/blog-entry-101.html

August 18

Early listings  of the handheld in the UK list the price as £199.99, which is roughly $300 or ¥25,000 in real money – a price which corresponds with analyst predictions and the general suspicion that nobody would pay any more for it.

uh-oh
you know i really hope this bombs really hard for the first year because it's pretty clear nintendo needs a cockslap similiar to the one received by sony when they announced ps3

[TakingBackSunday]

It won't be higher than 250 in the US

[MyNameIsMethodis]

This is hilarious. Nintendo beat Microsoft as the scummiest company this year.

[Bebpo]

I'd also be really wary of dropping bank at launch given the fact that the DSi is region locked.

Yeah, the reason why I can't get excited for any of this.

If it's region locked like DSi, then it'll be the first system I wait a year or two before picking up.  Gotta see what the software lineups are like in both regions before deciding which to buy into.

[magus]

http://gbatemp.net/t257578-nintendo-stocks-fall-after-announcing-price-release-date?pid=3165005&st=0&#entry3165005

[Eel O'Brian]

i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?

[maxy]

gaf has started talking about something very important...game prices

Nothing announced yet...hmmm

[archie4208]

i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?

I played Strange Journey for about that long in a single sitting.

[Eel O'Brian]

but if you know you're gonna be sitting there in a stationary position that long, can't you just plug it in?

[archie4208]

I'm kinda weird about playing handhelds.  I like to move from couch to bed and back when playing.  Although if I do need to charge I'll stick to one spot.

[MCD]

I play at work.

Like a BOSS.

[Diunx]

i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?

The only reason that I didn't played Peace Walker that long in a sitting was because I had to stop playing to use the USB charge mode.

[cool breeze]

gaf has started talking about something very important...game prices

Nothing announced yet...hmmm

That was the only part of the pricing I was getting into months ago.  Don't remember if I posted it here or not, but handheld games increased in price between the GBA and DS, and DS and PSP.  PSP games used to top out at $50, then dropped to $40, while some are $30 and there is a quick drop to $20 for those $40 games.  DS games still range from $30 to $40.  I wouldn't be surprised if 3DS games are $40 to $50 at first.

i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?

No, but some people don't have an opportunity to charge between play sessions.  I think even sleep mode drains the battery.  The PSP Go, surprisingly, has a nice solution where you can save the game state; that lets you power the system down completely and continue where you last played.

The only time in recent memory when battery life was an issue playing handheld games was YS VII.  The battery would drain so fast and that game was too addictive to stop for a few minutes.

[magus]

can you spell shovelware guys?
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/29/ubisoft_3ds_lineup/

[demi]

uh, ghost recon tactics is awesome.

[Van Cruncheon]

i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?

i played phantasy star portable 2 for almost that long :-(

[Raban]

At first when I saw the price was $300 I was like

But then I saw that Mega Man Legends 3 is coming out on 3DS. I physically cannot resist buying this system.

[TakingBackSunday]

it won't actually be 300 dollars aarhhhhhhhhhhhhhhggg

[Howard Alan Treesong]

it sure won't be $229 either

$269 or bust

[TakingBackSunday]

229 is my hope, 250 is my expectation.  I'll cover most of that with trade ins anyway 

[cool breeze]

They are putting in things from Conviction into Chaos Theory.  Looks pretty bad.  Don't know why I believed the ubisoft bullshit pictures from E3.

[TakingBackSunday]

they're also apparently adding in the SD card, the charge dock, and several demos with the system, making the 300 dollar mark sound a bit more reasonable.  If they release it in the US without the dock, I could see them justifying 250 at least.

[cool breeze]

I hope that dock is coming one way or another.

One things these screen shots are reminding me of is how low resolution everything is.  I wonder if the PSP2 will use a resolution closer to the new iphone.

[Sho Nuff]

I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be.  First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?

Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

229 is my hope, 250 is my expectation.  I'll cover most of that with trade ins anyway 

hey, it's not Nintendo's fault that the American dollar has all the solvency of a third-world banana republic

$269 minimum, $289 expected

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't need that dock and don't particularly want it either, if I have the choice.  Maybe NOA will do several tiered options?  229 without the dock, 250 with?

shut up patel, I don't want it to be that much 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I don't need that dock and don't particularly want it either, if I have the choice.  Maybe NOA will do several tiered options?  229 without the dock, 250 with?

shut up patel, I don't want it to be that much 

There's no way it's $249, let alone $229. Nintendo will subsidize the shitty American dollar as much as they can but they'll only take a quick shower, not a long bath.

There are no tiers, there are no options. I'm sure the SD card costs Nintendo $0.50and the dock costs them $1.25. The demos are free. They are only included to make people like you swallow their pride and say "well, at least I'm getting..." What you're getting is WORTHLESS PLASTIC that's only being bundled to overcome your aversion to the price point. SO SORRY SO PRICEY

[Sho Nuff]

I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be.  First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?

Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.

In America they're losing money on every DS sold right now, so I'm guessing this won't be different.

Nintendo usually doesn't lose money on hardware. They must be able to manufacture a DS for dirt cheap these days, the components are way way way old. Have they ever said they were taking a loss on DS hardware!?