3DS Conference - READ OP

[TakingBackSunday]

But isn't it a charging dock?  Isn't that....isn't that more expensive  

stop itttttttttttttt 250 or bust

[EmCeeGrammar]

I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be.  First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?

Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.

In America they're losing money on every DS sold right now, so I'm guessing this won't be different.

Nintendo usually doesn't lose money on hardware. They must be able to manufacture a DS for dirt cheap these days, the components are way way way old. Have they ever said they were taking a loss on DS hardware!?

They weren't losing money on ds  hardware until the american dollar went down down down. America is their strongest region but theyre losing money with every unit sold due to conversion rates. Add in the lack of royalties after the gigantic third party exodus, other stuff I'm not smart enough to explain, and things aren't so rosy right now.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

But isn't it a charging dock?  Isn't that....isn't that more expensive  

stop itttttttttttttt 250 or bust

a charging dock consists of:

- a length of wire
- molded plastic

What part of that costs money?

[EmCeeGrammar]

It just occured to me if Nintendo bothered to pay royalties so they can have simple things like mp3 support and other popular formats the price tag wouldn't be so bad if I felt I was getting a good media player.

[Sho Nuff]

I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be.  First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?

Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.

In America they're losing money on every DS sold right now, so I'm guessing this won't be different.

Nintendo usually doesn't lose money on hardware. They must be able to manufacture a DS for dirt cheap these days, the components are way way way old. Have they ever said they were taking a loss on DS hardware!?

I believe they did.  It isn't because of hardware costs, but rather the beating the dollar is taking compared to the yen.  You don't shave a full third off conversion rates and expect that not to be a factor.

Ooooh shit, good point, forgot about our flaky American dollar

[archie4208]

If the economy were in a better position it would be priced at $199 and people would be crowning Nintendo as the king of videogames.   

[TakingBackSunday]

But isn't it a charging dock?  Isn't that....isn't that more expensive  

stop itttttttttttttt 250 or bust

a charging dock consists of:

- a length of wire
- molded plastic

What part of that costs money?

the part that farts out edible orgasms.  shut up

[maxy]

So 3DS could launch at $300 with $50 games...that would be fun to watch

[archie4208]

Apparently Kid Icarus is going to be a pain in the ass to control for southpaws. 




:'(

[maxy]

If somebody is bored

Nintendo conference online

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/presentation/movE/index.html

[EmCeeGrammar]

Apparently Kid Icarus is going to be a pain in the ass to control for southpaws. 




:'(

It's using the metroid prime hunters control scheme, its going to be a pain in the ass for EVERYONE. Seriously, there was no comfortable way to hold the ds when playing Hunters.

[Trent Dole]

Apparently Kid Icarus is going to be a pain in the ass to control for southpaws. 




:'(

It's using the metroid prime hunters control scheme, its going to be a pain in the ass for EVERYONE. Seriously, there was no comfortable way to hold the ds when playing Hunters.

Really? Do not want.

[TripleA]

gaf has started talking about something very important...game prices

Nothing announced yet...hmmm

I have a bad feeling about this.

[TripleA]

It just occured to me if Nintendo bothered to pay royalties so they can have simple things like mp3 support and other popular formats the price tag wouldn't be so bad if I felt I was getting a good media player.

But with only 64MB of RAM, just how polished will the multimedia features be?

I really feel like Nintendo is trying to rip us off with the absurd price tag.

[TripleA]

they're also apparently adding in the SD card, the charge dock, and several demos with the system, making the 300 dollar mark sound a bit more reasonable.  If they release it in the US without the dock, I could see them justifying 250 at least.

At >$200 it better come with a fucking charging dock.

Doesn't everyone have an SD card by now? And demos being a justification for the high price is just fucking laughable.

[TripleA]

This is hilarious. Nintendo beat Microsoft as the scummiest company this year.

No, they're just really messing up with the 3DS.

[magus]

No,they really are the worst
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/30/mario_collection_special_pack_details/

[TripleA]

No,they really are the worst
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/30/mario_collection_special_pack_details/

3DS, do you speak it.

[TakingBackSunday]

oh bitch bitch bitch tripleA, you know you're going to buy it regardless

[Raban]

299 US DOLLARS.

[Sho Nuff]

How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?

[Mr. Gundam]

How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?

Manchild magic.

[TakingBackSunday]

How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?

like how RE4 was controlled?

[Sho Nuff]

How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?

like how RE4 was controlled?

Yay, controls circa 2005!

[TakingBackSunday]

Dude it's a handheld, what do you want 

at least you're not controlling it via touch screen like the iPhone RE games

[cool breeze]

About the game prices, Amazon put up Metal Gear and Contra for $35, Nintendo Dogs + Cats at $40.  Probably means nothing.

[Bebpo]

I thought the US conference was at 1pm today?

[TakingBackSunday]

there was no conference for the US

at least not yet.  I'd imagine they'll have one soon

[EmCeeGrammar]

How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?

...
Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I thought RE5 used the RE4 controls?  Just what exactly was everyone bitching about in regards to RE5 control scheme? I thought RE4 controls made sense for a stop and pop shooter, and the mercenaries mode was the most fun I had with the package.

[cool breeze]

RE5 still didn't let you move and shoot, but it had layouts that let you strafe.

[iconoclast]

I wonder how well 2D games will work in 3D. Would be cool if Cave/Arika could do a 3DS game with 3D sprites.

[cool breeze]

part of the virtual console thing they're doing is making the old 2D games into 3D games (not polygonal, like, the 3D effect) along with widescreen and things like that.  They showed Xevious where the ship is on an entirely different level from the ground or hud.

[SantaC]

wow lots of bitching in this thread, and in the end yet everyone buys a 3DS regardless 

[TripleA]

oh bitch bitch bitch tripleA, you know you're going to buy it regardless

No, not this time.

No, Nintendo will not be getting my money if they don't get their shit together.

[TripleA]

HOW is there not a unified online system HOW

[AdmiralViscen]

Triple

[TripleA]

Dude it's a handheld, what do you want 

We want dual analogs on a handheld.

Don't give us 1 shitty analog if you plan on giving us console franchises.

[TripleA]

Triple

What

[TakingBackSunday]

tripleA, just get your mom to buy it for you

[Barry Egan]

he's roleplaying for when he's in charge of which gifts come in under the christmas tree.

[maxy]

TripleA is right.

weeaboos will like it just like DS,but the rest will be "lol controls are shit,I'd rather play this on real console"...sorry Nintendo,your "third party is important" mantra will fail.
maybe sony will surprise us...oh wait,they will probably release $400 touchscreen only handheld.

Why are handheld console makers so afraid of dual analogs?

[magus]

Our Nintendo 3DS lineup is ridiculously good. Mega Man Legends, Super Street Fighter IV and Resident Evil? No one is bringing it like us. - Wes Philips, Capcom’s manager of PR strategy

2 ports and a game that still exist as just an artwork

capcom

[iconoclast]

I don't think the RE game is a port. At least Nintendo fanboys can finally play SSF4, like they've always wanted.

[maxy]

From andriasang

Someone suggested that the system's price tag of ¥25,000 yen might be on the high side. Iwata responded that the the price was set by considering a number of factors, including reactions to the system's E3 reveal.

[SantaC]

Our Nintendo 3DS lineup is ridiculously good. Mega Man Legends, Super Street Fighter IV and Resident Evil? No one is bringing it like us. - Wes Philips, Capcom’s manager of PR strategy

2 ports and a game that still exist as just an artwork

capcom

there are two resident evil games. Atleast one of them is new.

[AdmiralViscen]

A

[archie4208]

Sucks

[cool breeze]

Capcom is bringing the heat.  It's funny how they only teased Resident Evil PSP a few years back, but they already have two to show for the 3DS.  Plus they released Rockman Dash 1&2 ports for the PSP in Japan many years ago and now the sequel is on the 3DS.

If Sony does have the PSP2 be out soon, I wonder if Capcom will throw this much support their way.

I don't think the RE game is a port. At least Nintendo fanboys can finally play SSF4, like they've always wanted.

The Mercenaries RE game sounds like a combination of modes from both RE4/5.  It sounds like it will be The Club where it is all about scoring in those stages.  The other game with Jill is a new story game.

[AdmiralViscen]

archie gets it.

[TripleA]

tripleA, just get your mom to buy it for you

Stay on-topic bitch.

[AdmiralViscen]

missed that BrandNew post, thanks TripleA.

[TripleA]

TripleA is right.

weeaboos will like it just like DS,but the rest will be "lol controls are shit,I'd rather play this on real console"...sorry Nintendo,your "third party is important" mantra will fail.
maybe sony will surprise us...oh wait,they will probably release $400 touchscreen only handheld.

Why are handheld console makers so afraid of dual analogs?

If Sony prices the PSP2 at anything >$250 then they are dead on arrival.

The iPhone 4 -with it's 3.5 inch retina display, touchscreen, gyro + accelerometer, 512MB RAM, wifi + 3G +bluetooth, 1GHZ processor, 16GB of memory, and 720p 5MP camera with flash- costs $188 to make. There is nothing that Sony can add to the PSP2 that would justify a price point higher than $250, and they know it.

This is the reason why Nintendo needs to fucking pay attention; Sony have friends lists, leaderboards, their own version of achievements, a shitty but heavily populated social 'hub', and overall a much much better online infrastructure than Nintendo. 4 years ago I would have easily said Sony's online situation = just as shitty as Nintendo's, but that simply is not the case anymore.

The dangerous reality (for Nintendo) is; Sony can easily justify a $249.99 PSP2. They can offer everything that's on the iPhone + a significantly better online gaming experience + 3D shit + better graphics and still come out at a lower price than the 3DS.

$249.99 for everything that Sony can bring to the table is absolutely justifiable and reasonable. It is not the same for the 3DS and if Nintendo chooses to ignore this then they are in for a rude awakening.

[AdmiralViscen]

What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

[maxy]

Demons?

[TripleA]

Why do some people assume Sony can't drum up 3rd party support for the next PSP? They were able to get developers to work on PSP games when the market had 'officially' bottomed out in the West, and their Japanese sales have been nothing short of amazing ever since Monster Hunter reignited the platform.

In other words; developer support will not be an issue for the PSP2. Especially if the PSP2 launches at a mass market price point.

Not only can Sony get the same games that the 3DS is getting, but they can get the same games with better graphics, better controls, and better online. Now ask yourself; Where have we seen this exact fucking scenario play out?

[Raban]

I really hope the 3DS turns out to be a disaster. If the system really comes to the US at $300, the price/features ratio is highway robbery.

EDIT: TripleA I don't think anyone's paying attention to you, you should find something better to do with your time.

[TripleA]

What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.

Or perhaps I'm just fucking aggravated that Nintendo is turning into the old Sony.

[TripleA]

I really hope the 3DS turns out to be a disaster. If the system really comes to the US at $300, the price/features ratio is highway robbery.

EDIT: TripleA I don't think anyone's paying attention to you, you should find something better to do with your time.

I'll probably kill a chicken or something, to make something delicious for lunch.

[Great Rumbler]

The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch, and the market already had a very similar, cheaper console out there that had established itself and that had already had a number of must-have killer apps.

You can't just go "Oh, looks a lot like the Xbox/PS3 situation. 3DS will flop big time."

[Beezy]

What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.

The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.