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TripleA

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« Reply #300 on: September 30, 2010, 12:43:31 PM »
The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch, and the market already had a very similar, cheaper console out there that had established itself and that had already had a number of must-have killer apps.

You can't just go "Oh, looks a lot like the Xbox/PS3 situation. 3DS will flop big time."

You're right.

The Ps3 failed in it's first year because it was $599 and cost $100+ more than the competitor, had an inferior control and input interface than the competitor, had a vastly inferior online experience than the competitor, and the best looking game which happened to be the 'killer app' was exclusive to the competitor's platform.

So again, you're right.

TripleA

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« Reply #301 on: September 30, 2010, 12:44:01 PM »
What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.

Raban

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« Reply #302 on: September 30, 2010, 12:45:49 PM »
What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

Bam. Nothing about the 3DS should be surprising to anyone. This is Nintendo's MO.

What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.

Sales =/= quality. The DS isn't really that astounding if you factor system sales out of the picture.

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« Reply #303 on: September 30, 2010, 12:47:23 PM »
What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.
That overrated handheld that everyone joked about before launch then went on to buy 3-4 time for simple hardware revisions? Yeah, I know. You can stop overreacting.

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« Reply #304 on: September 30, 2010, 12:50:32 PM »
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.

"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"
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TripleA

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« Reply #305 on: September 30, 2010, 12:51:26 PM »
What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

Bam. Nothing about the 3DS should be surprising to anyone. This is Nintendo's MO.

What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.

Sales =/= quality. The DS isn't really that astounding if you factor system sales out of the picture.

Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

TripleA

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« Reply #306 on: September 30, 2010, 12:56:07 PM »
What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?

Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.

You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.
That overrated handheld that everyone joked about before launch then went on to buy 3-4 time for simple hardware revisions?

Yes, the very same one that masterfully executed it's promise of touch controls revolutionizing user input, thus conquering the handheld gaming market and forcing companies such as Apple to adopt a touch solution for all their future portable devices.

That one.


TripleA

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« Reply #307 on: September 30, 2010, 12:58:58 PM »
3D gimick ?
same shitty games AGAIN?

You just know that 99% of parents are going "well, i remember nintendroid Game cubes handheld ruling the roost - i guess i should get this new 3DS thing. How do i play The Bravatar movie on this ?"

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the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

the first gen DS was a steaming pile of horse shit. Just saying.

I'm assuming your comment has to do with the dimensions and aesthetics of the device.

Raban

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« Reply #308 on: September 30, 2010, 01:01:04 PM »
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

:rofl

Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.

TripleA

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« Reply #309 on: September 30, 2010, 01:01:52 PM »
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.

"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"


Shockingly similar to this one.

"GIMMICK?!FAD!!!"
"MOTION CONTROLS!?!?!??"
"HAHAHAHAHA TV REMOTE"


Raban

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« Reply #310 on: September 30, 2010, 01:02:54 PM »
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.

"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"


Shockingly similar to this one.

"GIMMICK?!FAD!!!"
"MOTION CONTROLS!?!?!??"
"HAHAHAHAHA TV REMOTE"



And look how super awesome the Wii turned out.

Beezy

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« Reply #311 on: September 30, 2010, 01:06:54 PM »
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.

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« Reply #312 on: September 30, 2010, 01:08:41 PM »
The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch, and the market already had a very similar, cheaper console out there that had established itself and that had already had a number of must-have killer apps.

You can't just go "Oh, looks a lot like the Xbox/PS3 situation. 3DS will flop big time."

You're right.

The Ps3 failed in it's first year because it was $599 and cost $100+ more than the competitor, had an inferior control and input interface than the competitor, had a vastly inferior online experience than the competitor, and the best looking game which happened to be the 'killer app' was exclusive to the competitor's platform.

So again, you're right.

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« Reply #313 on: September 30, 2010, 01:10:11 PM »
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TripleA

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« Reply #314 on: September 30, 2010, 01:12:29 PM »
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

:rofl

Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.

It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.

'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.

Nintendogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.

TripleA

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« Reply #315 on: September 30, 2010, 01:13:35 PM »
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.

"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"


Shockingly similar to this one.

"GIMMICK?!FAD!!!"
"MOTION CONTROLS!?!?!??"
"HAHAHAHAHA TV REMOTE"



And look how super awesome the Wii turned out.

With a library of outstanding and innovative software ranging from acrobatic space exploration to sunny beach volleyball, the Wii is indeed super awesome.

TripleA

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« Reply #316 on: September 30, 2010, 01:15:33 PM »
Lunch time, I'll see you delusional cats in a bit.

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« Reply #317 on: September 30, 2010, 01:16:19 PM »
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« Reply #318 on: September 30, 2010, 01:16:28 PM »
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.

Why yes, they were many good motion control games and touchscreen games. Especially in previous years. You can argue NOW that the software has slowed to a trickle, but just because you've ignored the software throughout the lifespan of the respective systems doesn't mean good motion control/touchscreen games have not come out.

 I'll admit when its unecessary it's bad, but I can't imagine playing something like  Elite Beat Agents/KirbysCanvasCurse on another system. Sports games on other systems feel antiquated after playing Pro Evolution Soccer or the Tiger Woods games after the motion plus was introduced.  Excitebots is awesome and I hate you all for not playing it. I could go into full list wars mode, but I know most people don't appreciate that.
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« Reply #319 on: September 30, 2010, 01:17:10 PM »
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.

Ouendan and Trauma Center justified touch controls pretty quickly.
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« Reply #320 on: September 30, 2010, 01:17:50 PM »
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.

Ouendan and Trauma Center justified touch controls pretty quickly.

Hi5
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Beezy

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« Reply #321 on: September 30, 2010, 01:20:50 PM »
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.

Ouendan and Trauma Center justified touch controls pretty quickly.
I didn't say there weren't any. Just not many. :teehee

Most of the best DS games don't require you to use the touchscreen.

Himu

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« Reply #322 on: September 30, 2010, 01:21:30 PM »
:bow KIRBY CANVAS CURSE :bow2
IYKYK

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« Reply #323 on: September 30, 2010, 01:25:11 PM »
:bow Meteos :bow2
:bow Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword :bow2
:bow Rhythm Heaven  :bow2

gtfo beezy!
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« Reply #324 on: September 30, 2010, 01:29:15 PM »
:bow TWEWY :piss
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« Reply #325 on: September 30, 2010, 01:29:54 PM »
:bow KIRBY CANVAS CURSE :bow2

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« Reply #326 on: September 30, 2010, 01:36:37 PM »
:piss Ninfags :piss2

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« Reply #327 on: September 30, 2010, 01:38:22 PM »
 :piss $ :piss2  :piss 3 :piss2  :piss 0 :piss2  :piss 0 :piss2
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Raban

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« Reply #328 on: September 30, 2010, 01:42:35 PM »
:lol well, this thread certainly turned around.

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« Reply #329 on: September 30, 2010, 01:42:45 PM »
jesus god, tripleA sucks so so hard
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« Reply #330 on: September 30, 2010, 02:17:39 PM »
There are enough games that justify the DS touch screen.  There are none that justify two small screens versus one large one.  The worst idea people were throwing around about a DS successor was two touch screens.  What? why? I asked and specifically said "don't say that it would inspire developers and that you currently don't know what the benefit is" AND THAT WAS THE ONLY ANSWER.  Two screens stink.

And I don't want the 3DS to fail, but I hope Sony, Microsoft, or some company puts out a handheld that can surpass it.  I think the most exciting stuff about the 3DS is the impressive third party support and that can be stolen away, probably.

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« Reply #331 on: September 30, 2010, 02:18:04 PM »
The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch.

4 years later and still no must have killer apps

 :omg

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« Reply #332 on: September 30, 2010, 02:21:43 PM »
I thought that level of faggotry was contained at gaf :(
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« Reply #333 on: September 30, 2010, 02:27:22 PM »
I thought that level of faggotry was contained at gaf :(

Dude, it's TripleA.
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« Reply #334 on: September 30, 2010, 02:34:27 PM »
There are enough games that justify the DS touch screen.  There are none that justify two small screens versus one large one. 

I actually adore map screens. Having access to a minimap and having to pause to see the big map is a pet peeve of mine. I'm just lazy like that.

edit: There's also the fact that Nintendo realised during r&d of the ds that sometimes a game would require the input be divorced from the output. That is to say, a game might benefit from a touch interface but not necessarily on top of the onscreen action. Kinda like how alot of iphone games suck because your fingers end up obscuring what's happening.
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« Reply #335 on: September 30, 2010, 02:38:15 PM »
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.

Beezy :bow2

As for PSP2,Sony needs to deliver dual analog controls,touchscreen and similar price to 3DS...$50 more expensive,maybe

Get Rockstar on board for some 3D GTA game...third party will come,this will be multiplatform handheld gen
Sony has much better third party relations than Nintendo,that should be no problem.

Sony should exploit latest Nintendo debacle(high price,missing holiday season).

It will be interesting to watch third parties...will they port their $30-$50 games to iOS platforms few months later as $10 games?
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« Reply #336 on: September 30, 2010, 02:44:24 PM »
I really wouldn't call 1 and a half resident evils, a port, a sequel to megaman 64 and a ps2 port impresive third party support.
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« Reply #337 on: September 30, 2010, 02:52:22 PM »
So what, all the butthurt psp fanboys are going to pile on now? Gedouddaheer!
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« Reply #338 on: September 30, 2010, 02:54:07 PM »
I really wouldn't call 1 and a half resident evils, a port, a sequel to megaman 64 and a ps2 port impresive third party support.

oh please  :lol
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EmCeeGrammar

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« Reply #339 on: September 30, 2010, 03:03:10 PM »
From andriasang

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Someone suggested that the system's price tag of ¥25,000 yen might be on the high side. Iwata responded that the the price was set by considering a number of factors, including reactions to the system's E3 reveal.
:rofl :rofl


This is why I fucking hate geeks and their geekgasms. I hold BrandNew responsible for this.

Oh jesus, I missed this. Why'd all those "journalists" pick this time to give a damn about a nintendo product >:(.
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cool breeze

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« Reply #340 on: September 30, 2010, 03:10:45 PM »
There are enough games that justify the DS touch screen.  There are none that justify two small screens versus one large one. 

I actually adore map screens. Having access to a minimap and having to pause to see the big map is a pet peeve of mine. I'm just lazy like that.

edit: There's also the fact that Nintendo realised during r&d of the ds that sometimes a game would require the input be divorced from the output. That is to say, a game might benefit from a touch interface but not necessarily on top of the onscreen action. Kinda like how alot of iphone games suck because your fingers end up obscuring what's happening.

but that is a choice on the iphone, PSP, etc.  They could easily split the screen in two, have one be a large mini-map and the other the action.  This is the old Dynasty Warrior game for PSP:


You have the action on the left, the "second screen" info and shit on the right.  You rarely see that because most games don't try and sacrifice the action view for information.

Problem with two screens is that if you decide to have one large screen to show all the action, it sucks.  Contra 4, Yoshi Island 2, whatever.  All have a giant gap in the middle and either ignore it or try pretend like there is unseen territory there.  TWEWY is the only game where it was alright because it shows two different actions, and again, that would be just as good on one large screen.

The 3DS is the first time two screens at least made some sense.  Nintendo was either too cheap or the tech wasn't there to have a 3D touch screen, so the bottom is the touch screen, the top is the 3D screen.  I've been lost as to why people liked it on the original DS for the past couple years.

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« Reply #341 on: September 30, 2010, 03:29:21 PM »
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

:rofl

Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.

It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.

'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.

Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.

You do realize Nintendogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
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« Reply #342 on: September 30, 2010, 03:31:19 PM »
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

:rofl

Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.

It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.

'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.

Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.

You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?

Didn't the ds come out during the holidays, and then brain training and nintendogs came out during easter?
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« Reply #343 on: September 30, 2010, 03:33:18 PM »
Only in Japan. i got a DS at launch and didn't play shit until Meteos and Kirby in July or August. Nintendogs didn't hit Europe until October.

Also why is there a word filter that turns Nintendogs into Nintendo Dogs? :lol

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« Reply #344 on: September 30, 2010, 03:42:43 PM »
you know i just realized something.....
http://n3ds.blog6.fc2.com/blog-entry-101.html

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August 18

Early listings  of the handheld in the UK list the price as £199.99, which is roughly $300 or ¥25,000 in real money – a price which corresponds with analyst predictions and the general suspicion that nobody would pay any more for it.

uh-oh
you know i really hope this bombs really hard for the first year because it's pretty clear nintendo needs a cockslap similiar to the one received by sony when they announced ps3




I doubt it will happen since its Nintendo but Sony got the same benefit of the doubt from Ps2 and fucked that up royally.

We'll see when the price is officially announced for US?

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« Reply #345 on: September 30, 2010, 05:29:34 PM »
Yeah, but Sony also priced the PS3 at fucking 600 dollars.  And it had no gayyyyymes mang
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« Reply #346 on: September 30, 2010, 05:45:55 PM »
360 didn't have games when it came out either, MAYBE geometry wars. I honestly think the ps3's situation is just THAT simple. It was obscenely expensive. I don't want to make any predictions about the 3ds. There is a precedent with how expensive mp3 players and cell phones are getting, but I may just be imagining a correlation there.
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« Reply #347 on: September 30, 2010, 06:05:46 PM »
Yeah, but Sony also priced the PS3 at fucking 600 dollars.  And it had no gayyyyymes mang

PS3 seemed to have a ton of games before it was released; we just found out later that most of them didn't exist, were coming out on the 360, or released years later than expected.

Nintendo is potentially pricing the 3DS at $300 and we have no idea when most of these games are coming out.

I just find it funny that people are so sure that everything will go smooth, and it probably will, but it hasn't even been half a decade since Nintendo went from being third to first (sales wise) with the opposite happening to Sony.  Best not to rule anything out just yet.

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« Reply #348 on: September 30, 2010, 07:22:23 PM »
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Nintendo is potentially pricing the 3DS at $300 and we have no idea when most of these games are coming out.

Uh, no.  Over half of the games showcased are listed as Spring 2011 titles.  Nintendo even went far enough to label the ones that weren't expected as Spring 2011 titles, including Mario Kart, one of their biggest titles for the system.

So far there is a potential launch window of games including:

Ocarina of Time
Star Fox
Kid Icarus
Paper Mario
Nintendogs + Cats
Pilot Wings
Resident Evil
Street Fighter IV
Dead or Alive
Monkey Ball
Professor Layton
and some shit third party games no one cares about

and of course all of these won't be available at launch, but Nintendo plans to have most of them out probably by the end of summer 2011.  That's more than I ever saw from the PS3's pre-release announcements.

This is a dumb argument anyway.  3DS looks sick, won't be 300 dollars, and it will have Paper Mario.  fucking sold
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« Reply #349 on: September 30, 2010, 07:54:08 PM »
r u gonna trade everything you own and get it for $10 and still consider it a deal?
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« Reply #350 on: September 30, 2010, 08:22:36 PM »
I'm going to trade in my DSi and a couple 360 games, yes.  I don't have any real attachments to many games this past generation other than Fallout 3 and Bioshock.
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« Reply #351 on: September 30, 2010, 08:46:32 PM »
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Nintendo is potentially pricing the 3DS at $300 and we have no idea when most of these games are coming out.

Uh, no.  Over half of the games showcased are listed as Spring 2011 titles.  Nintendo even went far enough to label the ones that weren't expected as Spring 2011 titles, including Mario Kart, one of their biggest titles for the system.

So far there is a potential launch window of games including:

Ocarina of Time
Star Fox
Kid Icarus
Paper Mario
Nintendo Dogs + Cats
Pilot Wings
Resident Evil
Street Fighter IV
Dead or Alive
Monkey Ball
Professor Layton
and some shit third party games no one cares about

and of course all of these won't be available at launch, but Nintendo plans to have most of them out probably by the end of summer 2011.  That's more than I ever saw from the PS3's pre-release announcements.

This is a dumb argument anyway.  3DS looks sick, won't be 300 dollars, and it will have Paper Mario.  fucking sold

There was never an argument to begin with...I was just pointing out that the PS3 sounded good before it came out too; it had a good hand until reality fucked it into a corner.  It's not a fact that the 3DS is going to be the biggest thing ever like people make it out to be, even with all the N64 remakes in the world.  But Iwata wants you guys to think that way to justify the $300 price  :teehee

TakingBackSunday

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #352 on: September 30, 2010, 08:55:58 PM »
but it won't be 300 dollars :teehee
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cool breeze

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #353 on: September 30, 2010, 09:06:41 PM »
True

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299 US DOLLARS
 
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Who am I kidding.  I had a PS3 at launch too.
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TripleA

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #354 on: September 30, 2010, 09:39:25 PM »
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.

:rofl

Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.

It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.

'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.

Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.

You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?

Are you saying Nintendogs wasn't revolutionary because it wasn't a day 1 release?

TripleA

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #355 on: September 30, 2010, 09:42:11 PM »
So what, all the butthurt psp fanboys are going to pile on now? Gedouddaheer!

PSP fanboys are still in denial, no surprise here.

TripleA

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #356 on: September 30, 2010, 09:51:06 PM »
360 didn't have games when it came out either, MAYBE geometry wars. I honestly think the ps3's situation is just THAT simple. It was obscenely expensive. I don't want to make any predictions about the 3ds. There is a precedent with how expensive mp3 players and cell phones are getting, but I may just be imagining a correlation there.

The PlayStation 3 suffered at retail because of 3 main reasons:

#1. Price.

#2. HD adoption being slow as fuck.

#3. The 'other' HD console having better looking games.

It also didn't help that the Wii was being called 'magical' and the 'ipod of gaming' by the majority of the press.

TakingBackSunday

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #357 on: September 30, 2010, 10:04:22 PM »
triple a triple post, hiiiiiiiYAHH!
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TripleA

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Re: 3DS Conference - READ OP
« Reply #358 on: September 30, 2010, 10:09:14 PM »
triple a triple post, hiiiiiiiYAHH!

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« Reply #359 on: September 30, 2010, 10:20:54 PM »
Just lock this fuckin' thing already. ::)
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