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« on: October 25, 2010, 07:00:03 AM »







Multiple sku confirmed

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Multiple versions of the NGP will launch from late 2011, each with Wi-Fi capability. Only one, however, will also feature 3G.

"The first thing to clarify, which I'm not sure the presentation did a perfect job of doing today, is that all of the devices will have Wi-Fi capability; a separate SKU will have 3G," House said.

"So the user gets a choice. Wi-Fi is available wherever, which clearly is the most important aspect of connectivity and that connected experience; 3G will be a subset of that."

Sony is currently "working hard" on 3G partnerships. House confirmed there will be some cost to the user for 3G services.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-27-sony-outlines-ngp-asynchronous-gaming

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Gamespot interview with Shuhei Yoshida

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western support at E3
proprietary flash memory card for games and expanding storage
small games exclusively on PSN
other games...same will have both retail,PSN release and some won't,larger games will have both
PSN id movable to NGP
BC compatible with PSP PSN games,improved graphics(a little)

http://www.gamespot.com/ngp/action/uncharted/video/6287022?hd=1#toggle_video
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 08:06:35 AM »
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Currently, the PSP2's hardware is not finalized, and Sony is having problems balancing battery, power and heat. There are apparently overheating issues,

:lol
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 08:45:10 AM »
overheating and battery problems :hyper

I was worried that Sony would wuss out and make the thing practical instead of shoving as much power into a small package.  I bet the price will be high too!  Sony :bow2

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 09:01:19 AM »
I think the motion trackpad on the back could work well with a basic gesture touch system like Apples multitouch. It does sound a little awkward but I like the idea.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 10:49:45 AM »
overheating and battery problems :hyper

I was worried that Sony would wuss out and make the thing practical instead of shoving as much power into a small package.  I bet the price will be high too!  Sony :bow2

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 11:39:16 AM »
Fools this isn't MS we are talking about, the next psp will probably have shit battery life like any fucking portable product in the market but it won't have overheating issues.

:bow Sony :bow2
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 11:42:56 AM »
psp2 is dead. does anyone care when you've got 3ds? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 11:52:01 AM »
^^

Competition is a good thing for us.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 12:09:31 PM »
2006-Himuro: Wii is dead. does anyone care when you've got 360? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.

you can launch later and still do well :P

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 12:50:40 PM »
psp2 is dead. does anyone care when you've got 3ds? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.

Yup. The PSP2 will be a man without a country. It'll offer slightly better graphics than the 3DS I'm assuming, but nothing else whereas Nintendo has proven the best way to sell handhelds (and consoles) is with a gimmick that makes your shit special (lol). Sony can have all the facebook/twitter/phone/etc compatibility it wants - it won't have games, again.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 02:13:14 PM »
But the psp has better games than the ds...
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 02:19:16 PM »
i stand by my opinion that a rear touch pad is a stupid idea (which will be dropped shortly after launch)
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 02:22:36 PM »
yeah, a rear touch pad is wtf
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 02:24:10 PM »
i stand by my opinion that a rear touch pad is a stupid idea (which will be dropped shortly after launch)

An integral hardware feature isn't just dropped.  Maybe you mean unused?  I think its stupid too and I have no idea how they expect people to diddle the rear while gripping the ...... haha I can't type that out its too obvious what I'm doing.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 02:25:10 PM »
yeah, i mean no one's going to use it
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2010, 02:26:41 PM »
But you will be able to rub some loli animu character's butt!!!!!!!
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 02:39:41 PM »
But you will be able to rub some loli animu character's butt!!!!!!!

I think Prole just ran to Gamestop to place a preorder.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 02:40:20 PM »
But the psp has better games than the ds...

actually the psp has no games so that's impossible
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 02:56:06 PM »
Touching The Rear Is Good
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 04:05:27 PM »
PSP Reach Around®

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 04:25:22 PM »
psp2 is dead. does anyone care when you've got 3ds? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.

I disagree, I think the PSP2 can be quite successful if Sony get their shit together.

The problem though is Sony are showing zero signs of getting their shit together.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 05:33:53 PM »
well, at least it will have 2 sticks/nubs, and it looks like they're shooting for the moon as far as power goes
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 06:29:40 PM »
Rear Touching = Sixaxis

hastily cobbled together secondary control scheme
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 06:35:32 PM »
The all-new Sony RearAxis™

Wipe Your Rear.™
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2010, 07:36:20 PM »
Agreed, Maxy. Competition is good, but will developers really see a reason to develop for psp when they have 3ds?

2006-Himuro: Wii is dead. does anyone care when you've got 360? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.

you can launch later and still do well :P

Sure, but one of the biggest reasons some devs develop for the psp is horse power. 3ds has more horse power and more modern tech than psp and WILL have an audience. Let's hope developers jump on board.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 11:48:09 AM »
Maybe I'm the only one that this the rearpad has potential.

Not for everthing of course - but it's sort of dead space there and your fingers are going to be there anyways. Portables should be about squeezing everying bit of real estate into something usable. Some on-screen touch controls are necessary as you need more immediate visual feedback to what you're touch, but for say an FPS, I don't see why this wouldn't be ideal.

Still, peeasspeetoo am gonna fail. Too bad so sad Sorny
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2010, 02:48:14 PM »
as long as the same guy who did the security for the PSP1 is on board, this is a winner.

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2010, 02:53:37 PM »
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:

http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360

Sub-hd gaming confirmed.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2010, 03:11:41 PM »
More like death of real handheld gaming.

:bow iPhone gaming :bow2

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2010, 03:19:09 PM »
More like a fantasy dream land.

as long as the same guy who did the security for the PSP1 is on board, this is a winner.

+1
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2010, 03:21:57 PM »
More like death of real handheld gaming.

:bow iPhone gaming :bow2

is this a joke? Iphone and other smartphones sucks for gaming beyond minigame fests.

Ban this guy.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2010, 03:24:04 PM »
I'm sorry you don't want to accept the true face of portable gaming

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2010, 03:28:00 PM »
I'm sorry you don't want to accept the true face of portable gaming

what true face? The Iphone has two buttons plus a touchscreen. What kind of games do you expect to play? Nothing more than shallow minigames. Angry birds is the most popular Smartphone game, enough said.


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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2010, 03:29:19 PM »
Wii is popular, too! What a statement for next-gen gaming. 'nuff said.

Your argument is idiotic.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2010, 03:33:55 PM »
Wii is popular, too! What a statement for next-gen gaming. 'nuff said.

Your argument is idiotic.

except that the Wii is still a gaming console and not a phone. The actual controls on iphone cant rival the best gaming consoles and handhelds. Who is idiotic now?

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2010, 03:36:10 PM »
except that the Wii is still a gaming console and not a phone.

:lol

Who is idiotic now?

You :teehee

EDIT: Think about it, Santa, how many people own a phone, even specifically an iPhone, compared to how many people own gaming consoles. A gaming console is one thing, it has one function. Nintendo isn't calling Apple their number one rival as a joke or some shit. I think it was a quote on this forum, Nintendo got out-Blue Ocean'd, it's over. Mobile gaming is still new, and it's only going to get better with time.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2010, 03:36:42 PM »
except that the Wii is still a gaming console and not a phone.

:lol

Who is idiotic now?

You :teehee

Great comeback  :omg

Well the fact is that Wii is still a gaming console even though i think it is a crappy one.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2010, 03:51:30 PM »
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:

http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360

Sub-hd gaming confirmed.

well, at least they're trying to match the specs of the more powerful console
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2010, 03:53:32 PM »
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Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 that PSP2 is currently codenamed “Veta”.

Apparently the name has been picked to disguise the fact that every man and his dog is currently putting together software for the machine. It doesn’t appear to be working.

We’ve also been told the Sony is deliberately spreading misinformation about PSP2 in order to identify where leaks are emerging. Considering your mother probably knows someone who’s seen a kit first-hand, we’re going to wish the Sony bods luck with that.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2010, 03:57:18 PM »
:rofl

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2010, 03:57:44 PM »
I really hope psp2 uses android instead of xmb
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2010, 04:01:51 PM »
I really hope psp2 uses android instead of xmb

Sony and Google are definitely up to something.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2010, 04:02:53 PM »
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:

http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360

Sub-hd gaming confirmed.

well, at least they're trying to match the specs of the more powerful console

I think we can all agree the 360 is more powerful than the Wii.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2010, 04:05:13 PM »
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:

http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360

Sub-hd gaming confirmed.

well, at least they're trying to match the specs of the more powerful console

 :lol


PSP is fuck awesome

PSP2 will be fuck awesomer
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2010, 04:44:16 PM »
1GB of ram and an 3.2GHz processor in a handheld? Xbox 360-level graphics?

So the thing is going to be like $700 then and have a battery that lasts about 5 minutes, right? Great.


You can pre-order the 3DS now, yeah?

Calm down young Xboy.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2010, 05:05:35 PM »
Although even Nintendo has admitted the battery life on the 3DS is gonna be notably less than that of the DS.

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« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2010, 05:06:38 PM »
1GB of ram and an 3.2GHz processor in a handheld? Xbox 360-level graphics?

So the thing is going to be like $700 then and have a battery that lasts about 5 minutes, right? Great.


You can pre-order the 3DS now, yeah?

I guess you've never heard of a laptop. :teehee
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2010, 05:57:29 AM »
So we still don't know shit?


Sony  :lol

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2010, 06:23:04 AM »
Sony doesn't know shit also :lol
3DS has hit them hard,now they are running in circles.But all these leaks mean that something will be announced shorty(few months tops).

If they give one year headstart to 3DS in Japan...the end
Capcom has invested a lot into 3DS tech and you can bet that they are not doing that out of love.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2010, 08:19:11 AM »
I really hope psp2 uses android instead of xmb

If they did this it would be some frankenstein combination of the two. I'm betting, if there is Android integrated somehow, on a custom XMB interface for it while having the core functionality (best smartphone browser, decent apps, etc). I mean, why would they change from XMB? It's used in all Sony products now, they're even bringing it out in their new Vaio laptops :lol

I'm betting on no Android though. That'll be left for the doomed failure that is the PSPhone... Sony Ericsson :lol
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2010, 09:46:21 AM »
Because android = android apps which will fall in line with their ideology for psp. Plus, android is an already established os. xmb and umd didn't do much to make psp1 the best portable media player. Sure, it was ahead of its time in a lot of ways, but xmb with touch screen is pointless. Android, already has all they need. If people can make games for the android, and those games are playable on the psp, this will increase psp profits while at the same time building up the android AND the psp brand to combat the iEpidemic because not only is Apple Nintendo's main rival but so to are they to Sony. Sony is fighting now both Apple and Nintendo for marketshare and losing. Getting on android would be amazing because psp2 would have an unlimited amount of support right out the fucking gate. XMB has no such support, at least not on the psp right now. They'd be starting from stage one.
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« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2010, 10:01:32 AM »
It pains me to say this but who the fuck is going to buy psp2 as a gaming device? psp needs to be more than just a gaming device: an all in one machine that lets you facebook, tweet, game with amazing portable graphics, listen to music, browse the internet, download bite size games on the go for casuals, touch screen, multi-touch. It needs to hit every single market "trend" of today and tomorrow if they want to stay in this battle and take back some of their marketshare.

Power shouldn't be their concern. If power is their concern Sony has already lost. 3ds already has the developers, support, and all that. iOS has the user community and support and tons of apps. Sony needs both.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2010, 07:49:29 PM »
Because android = android apps which will fall in line with their ideology for psp. Plus, android is an already established os. xmb and umd didn't do much to make psp1 the best portable media player. Sure, it was ahead of its time in a lot of ways, but xmb with touch screen is pointless. Android, already has all they need. If people can make games for the android, and those games are playable on the psp, this will increase psp profits while at the same time building up the android AND the psp brand to combat the iEpidemic because not only is Apple Nintendo's main rival but so to are they to Sony. Sony is fighting now both Apple and Nintendo for marketshare and losing. Getting on android would be amazing because psp2 would have an unlimited amount of support right out the fucking gate. XMB has no such support, at least not on the psp right now. They'd be starting from stage one.

Don't get me wrong. I think Android is a great OS. I can't wait to buy a Nexus One and I even plan on developing some stuff for the platform at some point. Sony are partnering with Google on some new products, specifically their Sony 'internet tv' and the playstation phone, that's great. It would be great to see Android also integrated into the PSP2, it would no doubt be a good move as it's one of the top mobile OS's. However I have no doubt we will see a continuation of the XMB interface in the future PSP2. XMB is just a user interface, an Android backend won't stop them using the XMB.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2010, 08:40:01 PM »
With the 3DS and the rise of phone gaming, the PSP2 will be utterly irrelevant, having to find a much smaller niche than what the PSP1 carved out.  The PlayStation name doesn't have the cachet it used to have back in 2004-2005 and if it tanks, then the brand will sink even lower in time for the PS4 to come out.

The back touch screen sounds dumb but to cut costs, it will probably be one of the first features to go before it is released.  It sounds like an ambitious handheld but I suspect a lot of the huge amounts of power will need to be whittled down for price and battery life lest it be another Nomad like device.

It will be interesting to see what it will turn out to be and what games come out for it.
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2010, 08:50:16 PM »
How much is your average laptop trackpad? I don't see why it needs to be an expensive feature first on the chopping block (I suspect a spec downgrade with be the first in line)

I guess I'm not as down on it as most - it's laughable if it's the systems killer distinguishing feature, but after 5 minutes of use it probably wouldn't feel that unnatural and might even be useful in certain types of games (FPS in particular)
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2010, 06:13:24 PM »
It pains me to say this but who the fuck is going to buy psp2 as a gaming device? psp needs to be more than just a gaming device: an all in one machine that lets you facebook, tweet, game with amazing portable graphics, listen to music, browse the internet, download bite size games on the go for casuals, touch screen, multi-touch. It needs to hit every single market "trend" of today and tomorrow if they want to stay in this battle and take back some of their marketshare.

Power shouldn't be their concern. If power is their concern Sony has already lost. 3ds already has the developers, support, and all that. iOS has the user community and support and tons of apps. Sony needs both.

You need to remember that Sony's biggest problem is over-engineering their hardware and half-assing their software.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2010, 06:17:45 PM »
With the 3DS and the rise of phone gaming, the PSP2 will be utterly irrelevant, having to find a much smaller niche than what the PSP1 carved out.  The PlayStation name doesn't have the cachet it used to have back in 2004-2005 and if it tanks, then the brand will sink even lower in time for the PS4 to come out.

The back touch screen sounds dumb but to cut costs, it will probably be one of the first features to go before it is released.  It sounds like an ambitious handheld but I suspect a lot of the huge amounts of power will need to be whittled down for price and battery life lest it be another Nomad like device.

It will be interesting to see what it will turn out to be and what games come out for it.

1. That's why Sony would be very wise to not directly associate it with the PlayStation brand.

2. It's the only way they can support 3D on the device.

3. Agreed. Nintendo have given Sony a very rare opportunity, let's see if the latter capitalizes on it.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2010, 08:21:45 PM »
They won't. It's Sony.

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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2010, 08:47:02 PM »
mmm, power. the 3ds has a shitty resolution, so if the psp2 can give me 800x480 or better plus better-than-3ds performance (and two analog sticks), SOLD
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Re: PSP 2 news(rumors)
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2010, 09:00:28 PM »