Anyone getting fooled into buying GT5?

[TripleA]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Dream within a dream 

[Sho Nuff]

Somebody on gaf posted some decent comparison shots.
photomode models:
http://i.imgur.com/1mDyt.jpg
gameplay models:
http://i.imgur.com/uGxnJ.jpg
Both games use higher poly meshes for the photomode/menu models while the poly count for the meshes that are used during gameplay and replays are a fraction of that.  I think both games basically look identical.

Then you have not played both games. Either that or you're playing in standard definition, because the premium models in GT5 look an entire generation ahead of anything on both Ps3 and 360.

In fact, it is only the shadow resolution (on the cars) and effect pixelation that remind you that you're playing on limited hardware. But to be fair to GT, there are still PC games that struggle like fuck with effects cranked up - so yeah.

If it looked an entire generation ahead then it wouldn't look the same in a side-by-side comparison shot.  Hell, the only difference I can see in any of the shots is the better tire texture on the evo in FM3.

Look at the wheel well and the tires on the Forza car -- perfectly smooth. There's visible geometry on the GT5 model.

[TripleA]

Somebody on gaf posted some decent comparison shots.
photomode models:
http://i.imgur.com/1mDyt.jpg
gameplay models:
http://i.imgur.com/uGxnJ.jpg
Both games use higher poly meshes for the photomode/menu models while the poly count for the meshes that are used during gameplay and replays are a fraction of that.  I think both games basically look identical.

Then you have not played both games. Either that or you're playing in standard definition, because the premium models in GT5 look an entire generation ahead of anything on both Ps3 and 360.

In fact, it is only the shadow resolution (on the cars) and effect pixelation that remind you that you're playing on limited hardware. But to be fair to GT, there are still PC games that struggle like fuck with effects cranked up - so yeah.

If it looked an entire generation ahead then it wouldn't look the same in a side-by-side comparison shot.  Hell, the only difference I can see in any of the shots is the better tire texture on the evo in FM3.

Have you actually played both games? Because I have, and I can tell you right now: Nothing on either console can match the graphical fidelity of the premium models in GT5.

GT5 looks like driving games do on my PC (running @1080p with everything on high). And it's running on 6 year old hardware.

Makes you wonder what PC devs have been doing all this time.

[ManaByte]

STOP WITH THE GODDAMN PHOTOMODE SCREENS

[MCD]

Or you could just link them, you know.

[TripleA]

I'll be back.

[brawndolicious]

Have you actually played both games? Because I have, and I can tell you right now: Nothing on either console can match the graphical fidelity of the premium models in GT5.

GT5 looks like driving games do on my PC (running @1080p with everything on high). And it's running on 6 year old hardware.

Makes you wonder what PC devs have been doing all this time.

First off the PS3 is 4 years old and second, maybe the lighting on the cars is more convincing.  When looking at extreme close up shots of gameplay/photomode models of both games, it's clear that there aint shit other than that that's different about the cars.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Then you have not played both games. Either that or you're playing in standard definition, because the premium models in GT5 look an entire generation ahead of anything on both Ps3 and 360.

During gameplay, the games are basically indistinguishable except for different lighting and Forza's more stable framerate.

If anything it makes me wonder why it took Polyphony Digital so long to put this out....and in this state.

[cool breeze]

I'm still laughing about how you need to reach level 40 to unlock 'real' damage

[Sho Nuff]

Then you have not played both games. Either that or you're playing in standard definition, because the premium models in GT5 look an entire generation ahead of anything on both Ps3 and 360.

During gameplay, the games are basically indistinguishable except for different lighting and Forza's more stable framerate.

If anything it makes me wonder why it took Polyphony Digital so long to put this out....and in this state.

It's all about developing in a vacuum.

[TripleA]

Have you actually played both games? Because I have, and I can tell you right now: Nothing on either console can match the graphical fidelity of the premium models in GT5.

GT5 looks like driving games do on my PC (running @1080p with everything on high). And it's running on 6 year old hardware.

Makes you wonder what PC devs have been doing all this time.

First off the PS3 is 4 years old and second, maybe the lighting on the cars is more convincing.  When looking at extreme close up shots of gameplay/photomode models of both games, it's clear that there aint shit other than that that's different about the cars.

The technology behind the Ps3 is not 4 years old. In fact (and this may blow your mind) we first heard of the tech behind the Ps3 around the PS2 launch.

Look at what you just posted: "When looking at extreme close up shots...". How about you play it first before making such a crazy comment.

[TripleA]

Then you have not played both games. Either that or you're playing in standard definition, because the premium models in GT5 look an entire generation ahead of anything on both Ps3 and 360.

During gameplay, the games are basically indistinguishable except for different lighting and Forza's more stable framerate.

If anything it makes me wonder why it took Polyphony Digital so long to put this out....and in this state.

During gameplay GT5 looks light years ahead of the console competition.

Makes you wonder why Turn10 keep releasing Forza games.

[TripleA]

STOP WITH THE GODDAMN PHOTOMODE SCREENS

So we can post heavily edited troll screens but god forbid we post direct photomode screens?

Tsk tsk tsk.

[TripleA]

You know now that you mention framerate (@hitler), I've only experienced framedrops when making that crazy turn on the tokyo course (nighttime with dynamic weather).

It was like a 15 frame drop (which would put it @45fps), so it didn't hinder my ability to annihilate the competition 

[WrikaWrek]

So basically, Ps3 distinguished mentally-challenged fellows buy this game to take pictures of 3D modeled cars that they will never drive in real life.

Fucking amazing game!!!!"$!"$

[Eel O'Brian]

Is there a decent racing game where you can drive souped-up versions of cars from the 1930s - 1950s?

[TripleA]

So basically, Ps3 distinguished mentally-challenged fellows buy this game to take pictures of 3D modeled cars that they will never drive in real life.

Fucking amazing game!!!!"$!"$

Welcome.

[maxy]

STOP WITH THE GODDAMN PHOTOMODE SCREENS

So we can post heavily edited troll screens but god forbid we post direct photomode screens?

Tsk tsk tsk.

You can't be that stupid...oh wait you can...lol
heavily edited troll screens
Poor poor GT5,whole internet is against it,everybody is heavily editing GT5 screenshots...waaaahhhhhh

[TripleA]

STOP WITH THE GODDAMN PHOTOMODE SCREENS

So we can post heavily edited troll screens but god forbid we post direct photomode screens?

Tsk tsk tsk.

You can't be that stupid...oh wait you can...lol
heavily edited troll screens

Tsk tsk tsk.

[TripleA]

Full mechanical car damage confirmed: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Gran-Turismo-5-Car-Damage-is-Progressive/7965

Poor Xbox fans 

[TripleA]

GT5 review by PSXextreme: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-reviews/436.html

To put it blunt: there is no equal.

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[TripleA]

http://kotaku.com/5700563/kotaku-shop-contest-gt5-wtf







   

[TripleA]

Best of both worlds:



 

[TripleA]

have you unlocked it yet

I haven't even hit Level 30 yet 

[TripleA]

Btw Antony, what level are you?

[pilonv1]

Somebody on gaf posted some decent comparison shots.

photomode models:
http://i.imgur.com/1mDyt.jpg

gameplay models:
http://i.imgur.com/uGxnJ.jpg

Both games use higher poly meshes for the photomode/menu models while the poly count for the meshes that are used during gameplay and replays are a fraction of that.  I think both games basically look identical.

Wait so GT5 does use different models for gameplay and photo? I thought the thing people complained about Forza was that replay mode had different models.

[pilonv1]

[pilonv1]

What an ownage then

53% tearing in-race

http://blog.livedoor.jp/ps360/archives/51644734.html

Special stage route 7
Race: Avg: 55.288fps Min-Max :35.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 53.302%
　Replay: Avg: 29.914fps Min-Max :26.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 2.389%

Snow
　Race: Avg: 57.419fps Min-Max :43.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 31.658%
　Replay: Avg: 29.753fps Min-Max :18.5-30 .0 fps Tear: 2.437%

London
　Race: Avg: 57.110fps Min-Max :48.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 53.002%
　Replay: Avg: 29.485fps Min-Max :25.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 10.478%

GT5 Prologue London
　Race: Avg: 60.000fps Min-Max :60.0-60 .0 fps Tear: 0.198%
　Replay: Avg: 29.984fps Min-Max :29.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 1.786%

[TripleA]

Btw Antony, what level are you?

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[TripleA]

Wait so GT5 does use different models for gameplay and photo?

You've never played a Gran Turismo game?

[TripleA]

What an ownage then

53% tearing in-race

http://blog.livedoor.jp/ps360/archives/51644734.html

Special stage route 7
Race: Avg: 55.288fps Min-Max :35.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 53.302%
　Replay: Avg: 29.914fps Min-Max :26.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 2.389%

Snow
　Race: Avg: 57.419fps Min-Max :43.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 31.658%
　Replay: Avg: 29.753fps Min-Max :18.5-30 .0 fps Tear: 2.437%

London
　Race: Avg: 57.110fps Min-Max :48.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 53.002%
　Replay: Avg: 29.485fps Min-Max :25.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 10.478%

GT5 Prologue London
　Race: Avg: 60.000fps Min-Max :60.0-60 .0 fps Tear: 0.198%
　Replay: Avg: 29.984fps Min-Max :29.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 1.786%

I have only experienced one instance of screen-tear (during replay).

Maybe it's because I play in bumper cam.

[Sho Nuff]

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"Please move back a little further"

[WrikaWrek]

Those are some Toy Story's era graphics.

[chronovore]

Shit that was fast. If this had been an MS game itd be stuck in cert for weeks.

Has MS released a game at retail that was this fucking broken and unfinished?

Lips. No joke, and I realize to no-one's tears. The game Was broken as hell at launch, was repeatedly patched, and still does not work. They ignored their own guidelines in several cases, things which would not have been tolerated in a 3rd party title. The game regularly eats its own save data, and has multiple grinding-based 'cheevs. I occasionally consider dropping by the INiS office with an EMP device to prevent them from inflicting more damage on the gaming population.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

TripleA needs to quit spamming and threadshitting.  It's getting irritating.

[maxy]

What an ownage then

53% tearing in-race

http://blog.livedoor.jp/ps360/archives/51644734.html

Special stage route 7
Race: Avg: 55.288fps Min-Max :35.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 53.302%
　Replay: Avg: 29.914fps Min-Max :26.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 2.389%

Snow
　Race: Avg: 57.419fps Min-Max :43.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 31.658%
　Replay: Avg: 29.753fps Min-Max :18.5-30 .0 fps Tear: 2.437%

London
　Race: Avg: 57.110fps Min-Max :48.5-60 .0 fps Tear: 53.002%
　Replay: Avg: 29.485fps Min-Max :25.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 10.478%

GT5 Prologue London
　Race: Avg: 60.000fps Min-Max :60.0-60 .0 fps Tear: 0.198%
　Replay: Avg: 29.984fps Min-Max :29.0-30 .0 fps Tear: 1.786%

I thought replays were locked to 30...

Little off-topic
Guy that owns that blog is really smart,some stuff he does there
He puts to shame western tech websites,blogs

[duckman2000]

Fighting about which drab-sim is better. Seriously.

[cool breeze]

[youtube=560,345]-1KVKSIVdK8[/youtube]

If people still care, that is a nice fair video that shows almost identical races for both games.  I only played Forza 3, but it looks too bright in that video than how I remembered it looking.  Gran Turismo 5 looks a bit dark and I have no idea if that's normal.

[TripleA]

TripleA needs to quit spamming and threadshitting.  It's getting irritating.

Obviously my posts would be irritating to trolls.

[TripleA]

Btw Antony, what level are you?

<serioushat> I've not started career mode yet, i've had a few hours just arsing around with Arcade as the times i could play the noise from the force feedback wheel would have woken the boy (i'm only getting to game very late at night and didn't want to hit career on the pad). Likely the next time i'll get to play the first patch will be out, so that all works out fine </serioushat>

I'm level on the floor laughing at this turd.

The first patch already came out.

But do continue posting, I enjoy your uninformed ramblings the most 

[TripleA]

[youtube=560,345]-1KVKSIVdK8[/youtube]

If people still care, that is a nice fair video that shows almost identical races for both games.  I only played Forza 3, but it looks too bright in that video than how I remembered it looking.  Gran Turismo 5 looks a bit dark and I have no idea if that's normal.

1) Agreed, Gran Turismo 5 looks waaaay too dark in that comparison.

2) You can see the shadow resolution issue (in GT5) that I posted in my previous post.

3) Forza's lighting is abysmal. It looks like a cartoon in comparison to actual simulators.

[TripleA]

Fighting about which drab-sim is better. Seriously.

I know right, calling Forza a sim  ? Seriously.

[bork]

TripleA needs to quit spamming and threadshitting.  It's getting irritating.

Yeah.  Ease back on the HUGE pictures, TripleA.

[TripleA]

By the way, contrary to the majority of reviews: there is deformation on standard cars.

http://i.imgur.com/GbAbu.jpg

I think it's fantastic that the more people play GT5 the more the reviews look completely fucking wrong 

[TripleA]

TripleA needs to quit spamming and threadshitting.  It's getting irritating.

Yeah.  Ease back on the HUGE pictures, TripleA.

K, I'll link them instead.

[AdmiralViscen]

Start editing posts too distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

[TripleA]

I'm not going to go back and edit every single post I've made.

If it bothers you that much then add me to your ignore list bitch.

[TripleA]

And with that, I say farewell.

[Great Rumbler]

Noooo!!!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Now who are we going to troll?

[close]

[AdmiralViscen]

Triple

[The Sceneman]

Im talking about the PSTriple

[Raban]

And with that, I say farewell.

[CHOW CHOW]

And with that, I say farewell.

Good riddance, Snigger scum.

just kidding ok

[Shaka Khan]

And with that, I say farewell.

Good riddance, Snigger scum.

just kidding ok

.

[chronovore]

And with that, I say farewell.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

[Sho Nuff]

And with that, I say farewell.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

The Internet collectively thanks you

[T-Short]

[youtube=560,345]-1KVKSIVdK8[/youtube]

If people still care, that is a nice fair video that shows almost identical races for both games.  I only played Forza 3, but it looks too bright in that video than how I remembered it looking.  Gran Turismo 5 looks a bit dark and I have no idea if that's normal.

1) Agreed, Gran Turismo 5 looks waaaay too dark in that comparison.

2) You can see the shadow resolution issue (in GT5) that I posted in my previous post.

3) Forza's lighting is abysmal. It looks like a cartoon in comparison to actual simulators.

Hehe yep, FM3 lighting is pretty awful, especially in Nur GP which was a DLC track and they seem to have phoned that one in even more than the other ones. Track is more lowpoly and doesn't even have a skybox. lawl

But what that vid really showed for me is how bad the engine sound in GT5 is

[ferrarimanf355]

http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/gran-turismo-5/review/gran-turismo-5-review/a-20101125101232492010/g-20070711154452396099



Turn10

[Sho Nuff]

That review sums up how I feel extraordinarily well.

[Stoney Mason]

One funny little bit I've noticed is that for hardcore Sony fanboys sales never mattered this gen. It was all about the reviews.

But now with GT 5 its all about the sales again.

It's almost as if they are making this shit up as they go along.