October NPD

[Stoney Mason]

Stolen from GAF

Data care of NPD Group
 4- week month; reporting period 10/3/10 through 10/30/10
 

01. NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, PS2, PSP, WII, PC) TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
02. Fallout: New Vegas **(360, PS3, PC) BETHESDA SOFTWORKS - 1.01MM
03. Medal of Honor **(360, PS3, PC) ELECTRONIC ARTS
04. Fable III **(360) MICROSOFT - 580K
05. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II **(360, PS3, WII, PC, NDS) LUCASARTS
06. Halo: Reach **(360) MICROSOFT
07. Just Dance 2 (WII) UBISOFT - 286K
08. FIFA Soccer 11 (PS3, 360, WII, PS2, PSP, NDS, PC) ELECTRONIC ARTS
09. Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, WII, PS2, PSP) ELECTRONIC ARTS
10. WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2011 (PS3, 360, PS2, WII, PSP) THQ

**(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc. but not those bundled with hardware)
 
New! 15. Rock Band 3 (All Platforms)
 
New! Fallout: New Vegas Xbox 360 SKU Only - 679k - Top individual SKU
 
Hardware:
 
Nintendo DS - More than Xbox 360
 New! Xbox 360 - 325k, is now the best selling console year to date, only console that's up year over year
 PS3 - Less than Xbox 360, did not increase from last month
 Wii - Less than Xbox 360
 
PlayStation Move sold less than the Xbox 360 points card again.
 
Notably Missing:
 
-Rock Band 3
 -Castlevania
 -Enslaved
 -Vanquish
 -Kirby's Epic Yarn
 -Super Scribblenauts
 -Wii Party
 
Extra Information:
 
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3...ware_Sales.php
 Quote: The industry as a whole saw $1.07 billion in new hardware, software and accessory sales for the month, down from $1.11 billion in October 2009. For the year as a whole, the industry has generated $11.07 billion in new sales, roughly $900 million, or eight percent, behind the pace set by 2009.
 
Hardware
 
A severe 26 percent drop in year-over-year revenue from new hardware sales drove the overall decline in the October report. Sales of home and portable consoles brought in just $280 million in October2010, compared to $381 million for the same month last year.
 While NPD no longer breaks down hardware sales for specific systems, the group did reveal that the Nintendo DS was the month's best selling system.
 
NPD confirmed that this number makes the Xbox 360 the best-selling home system so far in 2010, while the Nintendo DS remains the best-selling system for the year overall.
 
Software
 
Sales of new, boxed software were up six percent year-over-year in October, representing $605 million in revenue in 2010. The increase wasn't enough to help 2010 software sales on an annual basis, however, which currently sit at $5.54 billion and still trail those at the same point in 2009 by seven percent.
 
Sales of online-enabled games seem to be driving the industry for the month. "Interestingly, unit sales of online playable console games were up 16 percent while sales of those that are not online playable were down 2 percent versus last October," NPD analyst Anita Frazier noted.
 

[Eel O'Brian]

New! Xbox 360 - 325k, is now the best selling console year to date, only console that's up year over year

maxy just dropped a jizz blob in his shorts

[MyNameIsMethodis]

ROCK BAND 

SOLD WORSE THAN GH 

[Stoney Mason]

ROCK BAND 

SOLD WORSE THAN GH 

To be fair it was released on the 26th which is only 4 days but yeah nobody is expecting big numbers from them anymore.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

That's the same amount of days Guitar Hero had and no one cared then. I am going to die laughing if GH outsold it.

[Stoney Mason]

That's the same amount of days Guitar Hero had and no one cared then.

True

[Bocsius]

No need to be fair, the "only x days" excuse never* holds.



*mostly never

[pilonv1]

2k11

Always bet on Jeffrey

[Sho Nuff]

INDUSTRY A SPLODE

[pilonv1]

Fallout: New Vegas (360+PS3; CE+std) -- 1.01MM
Fable III (CE+std) -- 580K
Just Dance 2 -- 286K

Fallout

[Stoney Mason]

2k11

Always bet on Jeffrey

2k11 deserves the sales. Best sports game I've played in years.

[maxy]

New! Xbox 360 - 325k, is now the best selling console year to date, only console that's up year over year

maxy just dropped a jizz blob in his shorts

meh,not satisfied without other numbers

NPD

[Great Rumbler]

Fallout: New Vegas (360+PS3; CE+std) -- 1.01MM
Fable III (CE+std) -- 580K
Just Dance 2 -- 286K

Fallout

Obsidian

[pilonv1]

haters owned

[maxy]

Fallout: New Vegas (PC) -- 107K

Halo: Reach” (315,000 units)

[Stoney Mason]

Not to attack the game's quality, but I don't understand how Fallout sells that well.

I don't see marketing for it anywhere and it doesn't seem like the game casuals who play Gears of War would be in to.

Also, Wii Party failing is HUGE. HUUUUGE. The Wii's time in the sun is over.

I saw a good number of ads for it. And I think Fallout works because while its a nerdy RPG, they generally show a lot of guns in the promos which is more mainstream. It has that Mad Max vibe. Dragon Age also did pretty well on consoles so I think there is always room for a few really good rpg's. 

Wii Party was absolute shit. And yeah the Wii bloom seems to finally be over.

[Great Rumbler]

I saw a lot of TV ads for it on the Discovery Channel.

[maxy]

It's a WRPG from Bethesda and it carries the name Fallout.


Something new

Fable III was the No. 2 game in October

[AdmiralViscen]

MS has been cultivating WRPGs on its platforms since Morrowind and KOTOR

[Bocsius]

Something new

Fable III was the No. 2 game in October

Makes sense. It's a number 2 game.

[Eel O'Brian]

Calling it now, $150 Wii come Spring 2011.  Once they start focusing on 3DS it's all over for the Wii cheerleading.  They'll drop Wii Sports Resort from the package, or use it to replace WS vanilla, and start blowing them out the door.  I could actually see them being cheap enough to drop both titles from the package and selling them as a bundle for $20 (or as a $50 Wii Motion Plus bundle).

[Stoney Mason]

Following the just released NPD October sales report, Microsoft has sent word that its Xbox 360 sold 325,000 units for the month, which marks the fifth consecutive month that the console has led sales, the company said.
 Microsoft added, "Xbox 360 hardware sales have grown 30% year-over-year (October 2010 vs. October 2009) and, at 34% year-to-date growth is the fast-growing console for the first 10 months of 2010."
 For October, the 360 console was responsible for six of the top 10 console game titles, including the top four titles overall, "a feat never-before accomplished by a current-generation console," Microsoft boasted.
Additionally, Microsoft revealed that its newest Lionhead RPG Fable III sold 580,000 units, launching as the #2 game in October, while Halo: Reach sold another 315,000 units during the month.

[maxy]

WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2011 (across all platforms) -- 225K

across all platforms numbers are shitting everything up

"For October, the 360 console was responsible for six of the top 10 console game titles, including the top four titles overall, "a feat never-before accomplished by a current-generation console," Microsoft boasted."

So this is almost certain

1.Fallout NV(360)  679k
2.Fable 3(360) 580k
.MOH(360)
.NBA 2K11(360)
.Halo Reach(360)
.Star Wars(360)
.Fallout NV(PS3)
.MOH(PS3)
.NBA 2K11(PS3)
.Just Dance 2(Wii)

Top 4 for 360 as well,hmm...2 more needed,probably something from this bunch
MOH(360)
NBA 2K11(360)
Halo Reach(360)

[Diunx]

WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2011 (across all platforms) -- 225K

across all platforms numbers are shitting everything up

"For October, the 360 console was responsible for six of the top 10 console game titles, including the top four titles overall, "a feat never-before accomplished by a current-generation console," Microsoft boasted."

So this is almost certain

1.Fallout NV(360)  679k
2.Fable 3(360) 580k
.MOH(360)
.NBA 2K11(360)
.Halo Reach(360)
.Star Wars(360)
.Fallout NV(PS3)
.MOH(PS3)
.NBA 2K11(PS3)
.Just Dance 2(Wii)

Wii

[BlueTsunami]

360, a gamers game console

Also

Fallout: NV but I only give it one bow2 instead of two due to all the shitty bugs

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Move.

Home.

[Joe Molotov]

Move.

Home.

Room.

[pilonv1]

bubububub Move was up 15%!

[tiesto]

Fallout: New Vegas is the only worthwhile game on that list.

[Stoney Mason]

bubububub Move was up 15%!

The funniest part to me is that Xbox Live points cards keep outselling the move in revenue.

[iconoclast]

PlayStation Move sold less than the Xbox 360 points card again.

 

Boring and predictable NPD other than that.

[Oblivion]

Calling it now, $150 Wii come Spring 2011.  Once they start focusing on 3DS it's all over for the Wii cheerleading.  They'll drop Wii Sports Resort from the package, or use it to replace WS vanilla, and start blowing them out the door.  I could actually see them being cheap enough to drop both titles from the package and selling them as a bundle for $20 (or as a $50 Wii Motion Plus bundle).

Would be nice if that happened. Wii's been way overpriced for far too long now.

[pilonv1]

But if it's top selling in value, then they're selling a lot more since the 360 points card is a fraction of the price of Move.

[pilonv1]

I figure if it was doing any decent numbers we'd have heard about it.

[Phoenix Dark]

360 dominates the mature/teen/college/men/etc crowd, and is now poised to take a bite of the casual crowd. Amazing.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Wii Party absence is weird. Doesn't bode well for Wii software this holiday.

[Eel O'Brian]

Now it can be Pictionary! if you buy that drawing pad/tablet thing

[Van Cruncheon]

I like that Castlevania is "notably missing" like there was any other fate for such a shitfest.

you are still the best poster ever

[Van Cruncheon]

I used to laugh pretty hard at people that called the Wii the video game equivalent of Trivial Pursuit, but through Nintendo's own mishandling, that's exactly what it is. 

me

[pilonv1]

The Nintendo branded Wii games though usually do well because of their fanbase loyalty. I think thats what is most surprising, especially considering they're the only ones left buying new games.

I thought the Breadmaker analogy was funnier but it's basically the same thing.

Although it's not much different from the people I work with who all have PS3's that they got with their TVs and just use them to watch TV shows they've downloaded.

[cool breeze]

Nintendo just brought video games back to its Pong roots, only with a barely noticeable visual upgrade.

[Stoney Mason]

The Whole Wii thing sort of sputtering out a bit probably isn't quite the big deal that forum people think it is to Nintendo. It's become sort of revisionist history that Nintendo knew all along how big it was going to become and how genius they were. I think Nintendo are very smart but I think the whole Wii success thing on the scale it reached probably surprised them honestly as much as it did everybody else. They are never going to admit such a thing of course though. So basically they sold a shitload of units. Will continue to sell a very health number of units, especially around the holidays for more years to come. And they were able to do it all on the cheap. Almost certainly they are way ahead into planning and executing whatever their next console will be. And they have that 3DS which will once again dominate the non-apple part of the handheld market. They'll be fine.

On a personal level, I've probably lost most of my interest in buying future Nintendo products but who cares. They have the whole next generation of young people to sell to who are more important to them anyway from a business perspective.


 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Although it's not much different from the people I work with who all have PS3's that they got with their TVs and just use them to watch TV shows they've downloaded.

Yeah and all that PS3 multimedia hub bullet point hullabaloo is becoming more insignificant as the days go on.  I just bought an LG Blu-Ray player WITH wi-fi and a 250GB HD for $150 bucks over the weekend.  I have access to all my media files from the thing plus I can stream Netflix, YouTube, etc.  And I'm getting this at this price before all the Black Friday nonsense....god only knows how cheap you'll be able to pick up one then.

2007 seems like a lifetime away.

[Third]

So, what's next for Nintendo? Are they going to release a "normal" console now...
Wii fad seems to be over. Especially software wise.

That's the problem with the casual mom on dad crowd. They get bored rather quickly and won't look back until the next big thing arrives.
Kinect is probably going to be more popular than the Wii this holiday. But it's only a matter of time before the crowd gets bored on that also.

[Bocsius]

I think it's time to renew talk of Nintendo going third party. Not because it is likely, but because it would be fun. The talk, I mean.

[Stoney Mason]

So, what's next for Nintendo? Are they going to release a "normal" console now...
Wii fad seems to be over. Especially software wise.

That's the problem with the casual mom on dad crowd. They get bored rather quickly and won't look back until the next big thing arrives.
Kinect is probably going to be more popular than the Wii this holiday. But it's only a matter of time before the crowd gets bored on that also.

Honestly, I think they'd get slaughtered with a "normal" console.  I'm not sure where they're going to go next aside from shoring up their handheld business where they still have cachet with the main gaming audience.

I think they'd be foolish to do a traditional console. We already saw what happens when they do that and its called the GameCube. I think here on out Nintendo consoles will always have a very casual and kid friendly appeal like the Wii not just in looks but in whatever technology they are trying to push as the next thing. That's their market space and where they have the best chance of succeeding. They are the anti-sony and anti-microsoft. And that's actually probably a pretty good place to be and they seem comfortable being that now where as before they use to struggle a bit with that identity.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Wii Party absence is weird. Doesn't bode well for Wii software this holiday.

I'm not all that surprised.  The Wii ____ games have the same problem that GH/RB do/did: the audience that made the initial releases huge has no want or need for more past a certain point.  Is it more fun to play Wii Party with your friends than it is to haul out Wii Sports Resort or Carnival Games again?  Not really.  Once people have a few of those to provide just enough variety for the "once a month" get-togethers, they stop buying new stuff. 

I used to laugh pretty hard at people that called the Wii the video game equivalent of Trivial Pursuit, but through Nintendo's own mishandling, that's exactly what it is. 

I concur on some points, but I guess the successful Japan performance made me naively believe there was some differentiating factor to make it desirable. Maybe it will have good word of mouth.

[Eel O'Brian]

they're gonna do a WiiHD, obviously - backwards compatibility, etc.  I do think they'll offer a more traditional controller packed in the box along with the wii remote, though.  It'll probably be somewhere around the 360/PS3 level as far as power.  They'll put more of an emphasis on downloadable games and online, so there'll likely be a genuine HDD.  Some sort of paid "premium" online service.  That's about it.

[Rman]

Nintendo will always have a place in the console front.  They're extremely conservative and pench pennies like no other--unlike Sony and MS--video games is all they've got, so as long as they cater to younger gamers, with their family friendly, Disney wannabe approach they'll be fine. 

Everyone knows that Nintendo isn't serious about 3rd parties.  3DS seems a bit different, but we'll see.  Nintendo only cares about selling Nintendo games on Nintendo platforms.  None of their actions since NES have proven otherwise.

[Himu]

Nintendo, grow some balls and kill off the console market for good.

Don't make a new console. Make a new handheld system that can hook up to your tv and have the ability to use first party and third party controllers. So you can play your games on the go and at home with ease.

[cool breeze]

Whatever happens with Nintendo, I don't know if I want the 3DS to be a huge success or not.  Whenever people are so sure of something being great, it just seems wrong to have all go smoothly.  It's like how the PS2 was top dog last gen, Sony was hubrising up the PS3, and reality knocked them on their ass.  Now they're third place in sales (second in quality games).  Nintendo went from last to first (in sales).

Everything with the 3DS is leading to one outcome: Panasonic Jungle dominance

[EmCeeGrammar]

Nintendo, grow some balls and kill off the console market for good.

Don't make a new console. Make a new handheld system that can hook up to your tv and have the ability to use first party and third party controllers. So you can play your games on the go and at home with ease.

Fuck that noise. How am I gonna waggle on the go? Hmmmm?

[Himu]

Hopefully Nintendo realizes that they made mistakes in the past with N64 and Gamecube, so they won't go that direction after 3ds.

[Himu]

Nintendo, grow some balls and kill off the console market for good.

Don't make a new console. Make a new handheld system that can hook up to your tv and have the ability to use first party and third party controllers. So you can play your games on the go and at home with ease.

Fuck that noise. How am I gonna waggle on the go? Hmmmm?

Fuck waggle. Touch screen.

[EmCeeGrammar]

they're gonna do a WiiHD, obviously - backwards compatibility, etc.  I do think they'll offer a more traditional controller packed in the box along with the wii remote, though.  It'll probably be somewhere around the 360/PS3 level as far as power.  They'll put more of an emphasis on downloadable games and online, so there'll likely be a genuine HDD.  Some sort of paid "premium" online service.  That's about it.

HDD ain't happening. They'll go with flash storage again, and supplement that with sdhc support.  Nintendo's online ambitions means they won't be charging for the service.  In japan, online penetration is incredibly low and they aim to rectify that. They're not going to hinder that with a subscription fee. 

Just in general, Nintendo isn't too much into counter-programming.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Nintendo, grow some balls and kill off the console market for good.

Don't make a new console. Make a new handheld system that can hook up to your tv and have the ability to use first party and third party controllers. So you can play your games on the go and at home with ease.

Fuck that noise. How am I gonna waggle on the go? Hmmmm?

Fuck waggle. Touch screen.

I thought we had an understanding!  :'(

[Himu]

about what?

[Phoenix Dark]

The Wii isn't much more than a toy you pull out every Thanksgiving and Christmas for family fun. Nintendo seemed to think it would dominate family rooms but the 360 and PS3 made better, faster strides in that area (Blu Ray, Netflix, movies etc); Nintendo eventually jumped on that bandwagon but it's pretty late now.

Rock Band/GH are still wildly popular, but that audience has reached its saturation point; you can't expect a casual audience to continue buying the same product and accessories over and over again. Likewise Wii Sports satisfies its audience, making stuff like Wii Party rather irrelevant.

The failure of the Wii is in the game designer's inability to create new games to further captivate the casual audience reeled in by Wii Sports.

[maxy]

numbers,numbers,numbers

Following the release of the NPD October sales report, IndustryGamers has learned that Nintendo sold just 232,000 units of the Wii console, putting it firmly in third place yet again. The Xbox 360 sold 325,000 units, while Sony's PS3 sold 250,000 units. The Wii sales figure represents a year-over-year decline of 54% while PS3 was down 22% and 360 was up 30%.

Software sales for Nintendo didn't fare much better, either, as the Wii software sales were down 26% to $32 million and DS software sales were down 32% to $23 million. Xbox 360 software sales, on the other hand, were up 44% to $81 million, and PS3 software sales were up $27 million (17%).

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/wii-sells-232000-in-october-places-third-again/

From gaf

Software sales:

360: $265 million
PS3: $186 million
WII: $91 million
NDS: $49 million

PS2 + PSP: $14 million (605 - 591)

[maxy]

Tony Hawk: Shred sold

spoiler (click to show/hide)

3000 copies

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