Author Topic: So this Wikileaks thing.... (Read 20496 times)

originalz · « **Reply #180 on:** December 07, 2010, 05:35:36 AM »

Quote from: Skidmark on November 30, 2010, 12:21:54 AM

I wasn't surprised by anything that has been leaked so far, I knew most of it already especially the middle east related cables. Its just good to see that it was all actually true.
I am actually becoming more and more of an anarchist, especially towards super powers but not so much when it comes to countries like Sweden but I hope they release something about Sweden that puts some dirt on our government.

Yea man, anarchy will solve all of our problems! Fight the power!

Why is it that most "anarchists" are usually middle-class white kids? You want to see anarchy? Take a trip to an African country in the middle of civil war, walk and drive around the streets and conflict zones. See firsthand the positive effects of lacking order and stability!

Bloody idiots.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #181 on:** December 07, 2010, 06:07:58 AM »

Quote from: Hyoushi on December 07, 2010, 04:00:20 AM

I'm positive to the general idea of Wikileaks, as a proof-of-concept for secure leak/whistleblowing collection, but despise the way they editorialize, especially the super dumb text overlays for the "collateral murder" Apache video. Also Assange is a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who needs to step down, which he won't do since he's a co-founder and too full of himself.

Well he's been arrested and I'm quite sure the charges will stick so wikileaks will not have a spokesman but a martyr now.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #182 on:** December 07, 2010, 06:35:38 AM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on December 06, 2010, 07:42:30 PM

No responsible journalist would have released a list of sites any government deemed to be high value terrorist targets. Good work, Assange. No wonder people think you're an asshole.

I agree.

Initially I liked the idea of the leaks because of transparency reasons. Now I'm starting to warm up to this opinion that it is becoming more and more of the Julian Assange Show.

To add to his martyr complex, he is now arrested:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-wikileaks-assange-arrested-20101208,0,3085919.story

Brehvolution · « **Reply #183 on:** December 07, 2010, 09:12:39 AM »

I don't care what happens to Assange but I really want to see the BP and bank of America stuff.

Beardo · « **Reply #184 on:** December 07, 2010, 10:01:34 AM »

Quote from: mojovonio on December 07, 2010, 09:13:47 AM

So he got arrested, lets leak this shit.

He doesn't want to blow his load prematurely. He needs the protection.

Mupepe · « **Reply #185 on:** December 07, 2010, 10:20:01 AM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on December 06, 2010, 08:56:32 PM

One one hand official US sources have deemed the list to be high value terrorist threats.
On another most of these sites can be found by a Google search.

It's an overreaction for the sake of drumming up support.

Also this http://www.news.com.au/business/wikileaks-cables-reveals-australian-terror-targets/story-e6frfm1i-1225966699674

Right now the value of the list is in dispute.

And if Assange wasn't a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and did calculated releases, there wouldn't be this problem. But no, he's a distinguished mentally-challenged ego-maniac who is putting censorship on the fast track.

Himu · « **Reply #186 on:** December 07, 2010, 10:22:50 AM »

god fuck this guy.

i like the idea of wikileaks but fuck this guy

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #187 on:** December 07, 2010, 01:48:41 PM »

IF the internet was censored would you guys actually do something? Maybe he realises that's what it takes.

Beardo · « **Reply #188 on:** December 07, 2010, 02:32:36 PM »

I actually support what he is doing. However, I think he went about it wrong.

He should have released all the stuff he has about China and anything else he has on other countries BEFORE he released these U.S. documents.

He shouldn't have gone after the U.S. first because he immediately becomes a target of the U.S. instead of an alley. Perhaps he doesn't care. But he wouldn't be in such hot water if he released a bunch of damning documents about China first and then celebrated by the west.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #189 on:** December 07, 2010, 02:48:59 PM »

That doesn't make any sense at all.

Beardo · « **Reply #190 on:** December 07, 2010, 02:57:39 PM »

Sure it does.

After all these cables that he released, none of them revealed anything remotely bad about the U.S. And yet our officials are freaking out.

If he had released secrets about truly evil regimes (as he says he has), than he would have been heralded as a hero and would have had more support for going against the powers in the west.

Beardo · « **Reply #191 on:** December 07, 2010, 02:59:04 PM »

The way he did it, makes him come across as kind of an idiot. He claims to have all the secrets about the U.S. and then when we actually read about them. The best one involves spying on people at the U.N. Big-fucking-deal.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #192 on:** December 07, 2010, 03:01:08 PM »

What you're implying is that the rape allegation is a conspiracy. If that is what you are saying then I'll argue with you on that basis.

Beardo · « **Reply #193 on:** December 07, 2010, 03:06:07 PM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on December 07, 2010, 03:01:08 PM

What you're implying is that the rape allegation is a conspiracy. If that is what you are saying then I'll argue with you on that basis.

Uh... I'm not even talking about the Rape thing.

But yes, the rape this is getting blown out of proportion.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #194 on:** December 07, 2010, 03:20:47 PM »

Okay leaving the rape allegation out of it.

The cables leaks are in general positive towards the US because shock horror they are written by the US. The US is pissed off at wikileaks for three reasons:
-That the leaks have occurred in the first place and wikileaks is prepared to leak at will
-The cables are embarrassing as the allies of the US are derided
-The enemies of the US have confirmation of 'attitudes' towards them and that the US knows certain things about them.

In this case Wikileaks couldn't of leaked anything at all since they'd piss off the US any which way anyhow.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #195 on:** December 07, 2010, 06:01:45 PM »

If Assange leaked the Evilbore cock forum pics, he would have been a hero.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #196 on:** December 08, 2010, 01:32:25 AM »

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it-comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/

T-Short · « **Reply #197 on:** December 08, 2010, 03:34:53 AM »

hehe yeah. just saw those deleted tweets today actually. haven't really looked into this case until now

T-Short · « **Reply #198 on:** December 08, 2010, 08:43:05 AM »

http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/08/paypal-vp-on-blocking-wikileaks-state-department-told-us-it-was-illegal/

Nice. hehe

demi · « **Reply #199 on:** December 08, 2010, 08:59:40 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on December 07, 2010, 06:01:45 PM

If Assange leaked the Evilbore cock forum pics, he would have been a hero.

If you want mine just ask

Skidmark · « **Reply #200 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:03:03 AM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-saudi-arab-invasion-lebanon

Edit: Also:
http://www.mastercard.com/ is down.
http://blog.securetrading.com/2010/12/mastercard-maestro-3-d-secure/
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20101208005866/en/MasterCard-Statement

Brehvolution · « **Reply #201 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:28:30 AM »

World Cyber War I

Skidmark · « **Reply #202 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:34:46 AM »

MasterCard site partially frozen by hackers in WikiLeaks 'revenge'
'Operation: Payback' hacks into MasterCard site over payment network's decision to cease taking donations to WikiLeaks
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/08/mastercard-hackers-wikileaks-revenge

Swedish IT experts confirmed on Wednesday that a new brand of hacker attack disabled websites for both the Swedish prosecutor's office as well as the lawyer representing the women at the centre of rape allegations against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
http://www.thelocal.se/30698/20101208/

Beardo · « **Reply #203 on:** December 08, 2010, 05:46:26 PM »

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007182352309942.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

The Internet, it had a good run.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

A year from now we'll probably have a bill sailing through congress that gives them a "kill" switch or some bullshit like that.

[close]

pilonv1 · « **Reply #204 on:** December 08, 2010, 06:03:42 PM »

Isn't there already a bill that lets Obama shut down the internet?

Skidmark · « **Reply #205 on:** December 08, 2010, 06:16:52 PM »

visa.com is down now too

_____

10.40pm: Sarah Palin claims her website and credit card details have been attacked by Operation Payback, according to an email she sent to ABC News's Jake Tapper:

The website and personal credit card information of former Gov. Sarah Palin were cyber-attacked today by Wikileaks supporters, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate tells ABC News in an email.

Hackers in London apparently affiliated with "Operation Payback" – a group of supporters of Julian Assange and Wikileaks – have tried to shut down SarahPac and have disrupted Sarah and Todd Palin's personal credit card accounts.

"No wonder others are keeping silent about Assange's antics," Palin emailed. "This is what happens when you exercise the First Amendment and speak against his sick, un-American espionage efforts."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #206 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:34:09 PM »

Quote from: Skidmark on December 08, 2010, 06:16:52 PM

visa.com is down now too

_____

10.40pm: Sarah Palin claims her website and credit card details have been attacked by Operation Payback, according to an email she sent to ABC News's Jake Tapper:

The website and personal credit card information of former Gov. Sarah Palin were cyber-attacked today by Wikileaks supporters, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate tells ABC News in an email.

Hackers in London apparently affiliated with "Operation Payback" – a group of supporters of Julian Assange and Wikileaks – have tried to shut down SarahPac and have disrupted Sarah and Todd Palin's personal credit card accounts.

"No wonder others are keeping silent about Assange's antics," Palin emailed. "This is what happens when you exercise the First Amendment and speak against his sick, un-American espionage efforts."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates

Unamerican!

Palin gets something right!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #207 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:51:21 PM »

Sarah Palin isn't even a part of the US govt at present, thank god.

The 'revenge' tactics are clearly illegal and thus it's easy to punish them under existing statutes.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #208 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:51:33 PM »

this + this

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35637.0

= two great tastes that taste like chinese internet together!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #209 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:54:15 PM »

Yeah, this really does nothing positive nor does it help Wikileaks in any way. Just gives the government more fodder to shut the whole operation down.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #210 on:** December 08, 2010, 07:58:38 PM »

Quote from: Beardo on December 08, 2010, 05:46:26 PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007182352309942.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

The Internet, it had a good run.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
A year from now we'll probably have a bill sailing through congress that gives them a "kill" switch or some bullshit like that.
[close]

"Hackers"

Yeah, DDoSing with that app called LOIC that some anon posted a rapidshare link to is some l33t shit

Brehvolution · « **Reply #211 on:** December 08, 2010, 09:22:18 PM »

They are fucking with banks. Shit happens when you fuck with money. NOthing good will come from this.

T-Short · « **Reply #212 on:** December 09, 2010, 03:19:44 AM »

Quote

A government official familiar with the investigation said that treating WikiLeaks different from newspapers might be facilitated if investigators found any evidence that Mr. Assange aided the leaker, who is believed to be a low-level Army intelligence analyst -- for example, by directing him to look for certain things and providing technological assistance.

If Mr. Assange did collaborate in the original disclosure, then prosecutors could charge him with conspiracy in the underlying leak, skirting the question of whether the subsequent publication of the documents constituted a separate criminal offense. But while investigators have looked for such evidence, there is no public sign suggesting that they have found any.

so, yeah, if he's extradited, we could totally prosecute him, as long as the facts of the case changes and these hypothetical conditions are met!

Beardo · « **Reply #213 on:** December 09, 2010, 08:37:54 AM »

Does anyone know why Palin is getting targeted in all these hack attacks?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #214 on:** December 09, 2010, 08:59:19 AM »

Operation Payback is a bitch

Beardo · « **Reply #215 on:** December 09, 2010, 09:38:21 AM »

Clearly those are well thought out reasons. Nothing bad at all will come from it.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #216 on:** December 09, 2010, 09:51:59 AM »

Quote from: Beardo on December 09, 2010, 09:38:21 AM

Clearly those are well thought out reasons. Nothing bad at all will come from it.

You're right, these guys aren't being facetious AT ALL.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #217 on:** December 09, 2010, 03:18:54 PM »

As much as I dislike the clandestine dealings and opaque mentality of US foreign and domestic politics, this leak shit is still at the core a bunch of crap. There are such things that are simply too fucking shady for people to keep secret with a clean conscience, but some of this shit... you know, if you can't keep the secret then don't agree to the code, dude. And it makes me concerned about the snowballing effect, at which point does the leak itself become unwarranted, and when and at which point will people start questioning the right of any privacy or confidentiality?

As far as the dude goes, as a Swede with a US passport I say fuck him. The fact that Swedes do this shit has less to do with any Grand Quest for Transparency, and everything to do with a bunch of jilted twits with a tool and lots of anger from no one caring about their dumbass arguments for their grand "everything should be free" ideology.

Beardo · « **Reply #218 on:** December 09, 2010, 03:53:20 PM »

Quote from: Antony Carmichael on December 09, 2010, 12:44:40 PM

Palin can see the internet.... from her house!!!

Stanhope, take it away (Palin bashing)
[youtube=560,345]KdFJ-hFFdI8[/youtube]

Holy shit. I HATE sarah palin and that was incredibly distinguished mentally-challenged. How the hell do you make fun of people with down syndrome, The military and her Vagina?

This clip was depressing becuase it reminded how him and Joe Rogen ruined the Man show.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #219 on:** December 09, 2010, 09:25:35 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101208/ts_nm/us_wikileaks_3

Quote

Assange defended his Internet publishing site in a newspaper commentary on Wednesday, saying it was crucial to spreading democracy and likening himself to global media baron Rupert Murdoch in the quest to publish the truth.

Oh snapple.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #220 on:** December 09, 2010, 09:28:03 PM »

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #221 on:** December 09, 2010, 11:22:16 PM »

that's a really weird way to paraphrase the op-ed in question.

ManaByte · « **Reply #222 on:** December 10, 2010, 01:10:14 AM »

1. Amazon kicks Wikileaks off the Amazon Cloud.
2. Amazon repackages the Wikileaks cables in a Kindle E-Book.
3. Profit. $$$$$$

T-Short · « **Reply #223 on:** December 10, 2010, 01:40:50 PM »

Openleaks launches on monday, looking forward to this. Started by Daniel "Schmitt" Domscheit-Berg and some other ex-Wikileaks doods. Openleaks will differ from Wikileaks in that it will be a passive leak aggregator, with secure, encrypted channels to protect sources, and inboxes for traditional news media to peruse. It will do no publishing of its own, thereby falling under the "mere conduit" legislation to avoid legal responsibility of content. In short it will function as sort of an anonymizing "middleware" for traditional media, putting the publishing initiative back in their hands, allowing for free distribution and competition.

Beardo · « **Reply #224 on:** December 10, 2010, 02:56:10 PM »

Quote from: Hyoushi on December 10, 2010, 01:40:50 PM

Openleaks launches on monday, looking forward to this. Started by Daniel "Schmitt" Domscheit-Berg and some other ex-Wikileaks doods. Openleaks will differ from Wikileaks in that it will be a passive leak aggregator, with secure, encrypted channels to protect sources, and inboxes for traditional news media to peruse. It will do no publishing of its own, thereby falling under the "mere conduit" legislation to avoid legal responsibility of content. In short it will function as sort of an anonymizing "middleware" for traditional media, putting the publishing initiative back in their hands, allowing for free distribution and competition.

(Image removed from quote.)

How will this ensure that documents are genuine?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #225 on:** December 10, 2010, 03:11:06 PM »

[youtube=560,345]GDp1izlMQT0[/youtube]

T-Short · « **Reply #226 on:** December 10, 2010, 03:11:32 PM »

Quote from: Beardo on December 10, 2010, 02:56:10 PM

Quote from: Hyoushi on December 10, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
Openleaks launches on monday, looking forward to this. Started by Daniel "Schmitt" Domscheit-Berg and some other ex-Wikileaks doods. Openleaks will differ from Wikileaks in that it will be a passive leak aggregator, with secure, encrypted channels to protect sources, and inboxes for traditional news media to peruse. It will do no publishing of its own, thereby falling under the "mere conduit" legislation to avoid legal responsibility of content. In short it will function as sort of an anonymizing "middleware" for traditional media, putting the publishing initiative back in their hands, allowing for free distribution and competition.

(Image removed from quote.)

How will this ensure that documents are genuine?

Fact checking and research will be done by the publishing media. Openleaks will just be a conduit.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #227 on:** December 12, 2010, 06:55:20 AM »

huh, now THIS is a leak worth making a fuss about:

http://www.ding.net/wikileaks/234867.txt

rodi · « **Reply #228 on:** December 12, 2010, 09:22:01 AM »

I love that song.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #229 on:** December 12, 2010, 10:18:56 PM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on December 10, 2010, 03:11:06 PM

[youtube=560,345]GDp1izlMQT0[/youtube]

Skidmark · « **Reply #230 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:54:12 AM »

Julian Assange's online dating profile

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

chronovore · « **Reply #231 on:** December 13, 2010, 07:50:34 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on December 08, 2010, 07:34:09 PM

Quote from: Skidmark on December 08, 2010, 06:16:52 PM
visa.com is down now too

_____

10.40pm: Sarah Palin claims her website and credit card details have been attacked by Operation Payback, according to an email she sent to ABC News's Jake Tapper:

The website and personal credit card information of former Gov. Sarah Palin were cyber-attacked today by Wikileaks supporters, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate tells ABC News in an email.

Hackers in London apparently affiliated with "Operation Payback" – a group of supporters of Julian Assange and Wikileaks – have tried to shut down SarahPac and have disrupted Sarah and Todd Palin's personal credit card accounts.

"No wonder others are keeping silent about Assange's antics," Palin emailed. "This is what happens when you exercise the First Amendment and speak against his sick, un-American espionage efforts."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates

Unamerican!

Palin gets something right!

Actually, wouldn't "non-American" or even "anti-American" be the term she wants?

Beardo · « **Reply #232 on:** December 13, 2010, 12:51:35 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on December 13, 2010, 12:37:15 PM

I think the point is more of course Julian Assange and his cohorts are un-American, they're not Americans!

To be fair, those hooligans DID attack her personal card card and bank accounts. I'd be pretty pissed too. She's probably just lumping all of them together.

Beardo · « **Reply #233 on:** December 13, 2010, 12:57:21 PM »

Quote from: Skidmark on December 13, 2010, 03:54:12 AM

Julian Assange's online dating profile
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

Is that real?

Quote

Do not write to me if you are timid. I am too busy. Write to me if you are brave.

Wow, this guy sounds like a real douche bag.

Skidmark · « **Reply #234 on:** December 13, 2010, 07:44:08 PM »

Quote from: Beardo on December 13, 2010, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: Skidmark on December 13, 2010, 03:54:12 AM
Julian Assange's online dating profile
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

Is that real?

seems to be: Last Online
Jan. 1, 2007

also: The Slut Test 87% Slut Take it!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #235 on:** December 13, 2010, 09:27:39 PM »

Quote from: Beardo on December 13, 2010, 12:57:21 PM

Quote from: Skidmark on December 13, 2010, 03:54:12 AM
Julian Assange's online dating profile
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

Is that real?

Quote
Do not write to me if you are timid. I am too busy. Write to me if you are brave.

Wow, this guy sounds like a real douche bag.

He just means that if you send him intimate personal details, he will leak the shit out of it.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #236 on:** December 13, 2010, 10:54:51 PM »

Looks real to me. 84% match

pretty frightening to think of the world rifling through my Evilbore comments in five years or so when I'm internationally notorious.

T-Short · « **Reply #237 on:** December 15, 2010, 02:12:16 AM »

U.S. Air Force blocks NYT, Guardian over WikiLeaks

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD6CI20101214

Quote

Major Toni Tones, a spokeswoman at Air Force Space Command in Colorado, said the command had blocked employees whose computers are connected to the Air Force network from accessing at least 25 websites that have posted WikiLeaks documents.

The Air Force "routinely blocks Air Force network access to websites hosting inappropriate materials or malware (malicious software) and this includes any website that hosts classified materials and those that are released by WikiLeaks," she said.

hehe

Brehvolution · « **Reply #238 on:** December 15, 2010, 09:01:19 AM »

They are just trying to save lives. Can't have the soldiers knowing how inept their commanders are. It's bad for morale.

T-Short · « **Reply #239 on:** December 15, 2010, 09:37:41 AM »

USNI goes "oh no u di'n't USAF"

http://blog.usni.org/2010/12/15/24th-air-force-defeated-in-modern-information-war/

(also repeatedly writes "vigilante's" as a plural of vigilante. apostrophe-fail?)

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Author Topic: So this Wikileaks thing.... (Read 20496 times)