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Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« on: December 16, 2010, 02:44:59 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339108/David-Epstein-Homosexuals-want-INCEST-different.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

'It's ok for homosexuals to do what they want at home, how is this different?'


David Epstein is charged with third-degree incest over an alleged three-year sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter

David Epstein is charged with third-degree incest over an alleged three-year sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter

The lawyer representing a professor charged with incest with his 24-year-old daughter has questioned why the alleged affair has been made public.

David Epstein was charged last week with one count of incest for what was allegedly a consensual three-year sexual relationship with his daughter.

The political science professor at Columbia University, 46, allegedly slept with her between 2006 and 2009.

Epstein, who specialises in American politics and voting rights, is also said to have exchanged twisted text messages with the woman during their relationship.

Matthew Galluzzo, defending Epstein, has said that even though his daughter had emerged as a victim in the case, she could 'best be described as an accomplice'.

He told ABCNews.com: 'Academically, we are obviously all morally opposed to incest and rightfully so.

'At the same time, there is an argument to be made in the Swiss case to let go what goes on privately in bedrooms.

'It's ok for homosexuals to do whatever they want in their own home. How is this so different?

'We have to figure out why some behaviour is tolerated and some is not.'

In an interview with the Huffington Post, he added: 'What goes on between consenting adults in private should not be legislated. That is not the proper domain of our law.

'If we assume for a moment that both parties [involved in incest] are consenting, then why are we prosecuting this?'

Epstein, who has taught at Harvard and Stanford, is currently on administrative leave from Columbia.

He was married to another lecturer at the Ivy League institution, Sharyn O'Halloran, but the pair recently divorced.

In an earlier statement Mr Galluzzo called the charges against the professor 'unwarranted and unfair'.

'Professor Epstein is well-respected by his peers and students and he asks that his friends in the Columbia community support him and give him the benefit of the doubt during this trying time,' he added.

Switzerland legislators have proposed decriminalising consensual sexual relationships between first-degree relatives, including siblings and parents and their adult children.

Consensual incest is also legal in China, France, Israel, the Ivory Coast, the Netherlands, Russia, Spain and Turkey, according to a 2007 report from the Max Planck Institute in Germany.


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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 02:52:17 PM »
Legal or not, why would you even consider it?
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 02:52:59 PM »
Because cousin loving is hot.

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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 02:53:04 PM »
I'd rather have sex with a man than with my sisters or mother.

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 02:54:34 PM »
i've roleplayed with a girl as a brother/sister scenario.

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 03:06:39 PM »
I'd rather have sex with a man than with my sisters or mother.

The real question is, would you fuck your dad rather than your mom?
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 03:09:33 PM »
i've roleplayed with a girl as a brother/sister scenario.

At first I read "as a girl in" and I was all  :dizzy then I saw it's "with a girl as" so now it's all :zzz

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 03:10:05 PM »
 :lol :lol

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 04:19:32 PM »
Ew.

How fucked up they have to be mentally to even consider this, I dare not contemplate.

Also, what a hilarious strawman argument. Even for a lawyer.
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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2010, 05:10:38 PM »
Because cousin loving is hot.

Incest is the best, put your sister to the test.
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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 05:11:56 PM »
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 05:14:53 PM »
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
I don't have a biological sister :(

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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 05:15:20 PM »
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
I don't have a biological sister :(

Time to knock up your mom and make one.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 05:18:32 PM »
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
I don't have a biological sister :(

Time to knock up your mom and make one.
i don't dig on mother loving.  just cousin/sister loving.

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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 05:22:36 PM »
Or you can wait for your daughter to grow up like Epstein. 

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2010, 05:25:04 PM »
i should have clarified, not into parental incest.  no vertical loving, only horizontal.

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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 05:30:20 PM »
it is okay.  pussy is pussy.

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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 06:56:55 PM »
:rofl this thread
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 07:53:19 PM »
I no longer go to family reunions, but the people who organize ours used to do so by warning us if we didn't know our extended family, we might end up marrying them. Their only example involved my dad, who became good friends with a girl in highschool, and was about to go on a date with her when he found out she was his cousin.

They both grew up to be dentists
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 08:17:25 PM »
PD's family is the whitest black family ever.

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 08:20:54 PM »
My dad's side of the family is The Cosby Show, my mom's side is Sanford and Son
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2010, 08:22:49 PM »
Pics of daughter?
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2010, 08:37:00 PM »
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.
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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2010, 09:20:45 PM »
My dad's side of the family is The Cosby Show, my mom's side is Sanford and Son

This is golden bumper sticker material.
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2010, 09:22:28 PM »
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

That would be fine and all if it weren't for potentially having misformed and unhealthy children.  It kinda pisses me off the same way seeing a pregnant woman drinking or smoking does.
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2010, 09:50:06 PM »
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

That would be fine and all if it weren't for potentially having misformed and unhealthy children.  It kinda pisses me off the same way seeing a pregnant woman drinking or smoking does.

It's a risk if you're a Quaker, living in a community of a few dozen people. If you're living in NYC, a few isolated incidents here and there aren't going to have much of an effect unless there is a serious history of recessive gene disease in the family.
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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2010, 09:55:21 PM »
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

Incest has always been a part of Jewish culture.  It's all there in the bible. 

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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2010, 10:00:56 PM »
i read incest erotica
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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2010, 10:26:26 PM »
My dad's side of the family is The Cosby Show, my mom's side is Sanford and Son

you were born from two great sitcoms?

And that's why PD is a cross between Theo Huxtable and Lamont Sanford.
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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2010, 10:31:57 PM »
I always saw PD as more Elvin than Theo.
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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2010, 11:42:47 PM »
Doesn't do much for me, but if they're both consenting adults, I don't really see how this should be a prosecutable crime.

what this duder said, with the obvious exception of whatever sexy sexy hijinx brandnew and his fly sister get up to :drool :drool
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2010, 12:39:13 AM »
Every time I go to my family reunions, I get hit on. So I started taking my bfs when I was old enough, then they started getting hit on, but they got hit on by long-lost family members who recently found us and didn't know anybody, so they assumed we were all family.  :-\

And none of them have teeth. Or all their limbs.
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2010, 12:40:03 AM »
You keep going to the reunions though. Perv.
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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2010, 12:41:49 AM »
You keep going to the reunions though. Perv.

I haven't gone since I became an adult and told my mom NO MEANS NO!

But when a few of them get out of prison.... I dream about that though.  :-*
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2010, 01:14:57 AM »
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third-degree incest

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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2010, 09:27:29 AM »
My nieces are too young.
Guess there is no potential for incest right now.
At least you're staying optimistic
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2010, 10:13:19 AM »
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

The FLDS has seen a huge surge in rare diseases (fumarase deficiency being one) because of all of the incest that goes on.

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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2010, 10:19:15 AM »
Every time I go to my family reunions, I get hit on. So I started taking my bfs when I was old enough, then they started getting hit on, but they got hit on by long-lost family members who recently found us and didn't know anybody, so they assumed we were all family.  :-\

And none of them have teeth. Or all their limbs.
I'd hook up with you if you were my sister.  Just sayin.

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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2010, 10:39:33 AM »
:rofl HoF

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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2010, 12:20:51 PM »
Incest is not my thang I find my sister unatractive even though all my friends find her hot.
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2010, 01:52:39 PM »
pics of sister

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2010, 03:51:52 PM »
Hook me up with a ps3 mang :ninja
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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2010, 03:53:49 PM »
how about a psp?

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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2010, 04:58:53 PM »
She is my sister dude! not some ho Olimario met in subway.
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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2010, 09:41:34 PM »
Every time I go to my family reunions, I get hit on. So I started taking my bfs when I was old enough, then they started getting hit on, but they got hit on by long-lost family members who recently found us and didn't know anybody, so they assumed we were all family.  :-\

And none of them have teeth. Or all their limbs.
I'd hook up with you if you were my sister.  Just sayin.

How do you know I'm not your sister.  :-*

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Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2010, 11:21:37 PM »
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.
The FLDS has seen a huge surge in rare diseases (fumarase deficiency being one) because of all of the incest that goes on.

I think that's only within certain sects.  I heard about one guy who took over a compound when his father died and married all of his father's dozens of wives, except for his birth mother.