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3DS Chinese Connection(3D not mandatory,up to developers)
« on: January 03, 2011, 06:24:29 AM »
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 08:23:10 AM »
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 08:58:27 AM »
ugly design. I expect a slicker revision 6 months later.

but if it is true that it has 128MB RAM instead of 64MB RAM first reported, then I am pleasantly surprised.


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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 09:07:37 AM »
Funny how Chinese people own more legit games than most members here...
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 09:42:45 AM »
The GAF thread is so funny. The chineese have -no clue- how to operate the machine.

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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 09:51:31 AM »
Some people on gaf are trying to start a war with that Chinese board...stoopid chinese

Hopefully they hack gaf in retaliation
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 10:01:36 AM »
Some people on gaf are trying to start a war with that Chinese board...stoopid chinese

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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 10:45:53 AM »
why do people think 3ds is ugly  ???
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2011, 10:49:26 AM »
Most likely because the glossy plastics are accentuating a number of small but noticeable curves in what should be flat surfaces. It's almost certain, though, that those are not final plastics in terms of finish.

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2011, 10:55:46 AM »
I really like how it glows and stuff.

Man, look at that case. That blue case is so fucking sexy.
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2011, 11:47:39 AM »
I hate glossy in general.  I don't like wiping my hand grease off every time. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 12:52:19 PM »
Funny how Chinese people own more legit games than most members here...

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2011, 03:01:29 PM »
fug ugly, but still shall be awesome
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2011, 03:06:21 PM »
yeah, I was kinda hoping what they showed at E3 wasn't the final product.

the glossy look makes it look cheap, especially compared to the much nicer glossy psps of the matte dsi.  The bottom screen area just kinda sticks out and the start/home/select buttons remind me of the jaguar numberpad when using an insert.

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2011, 03:06:36 PM »
its not DSfat uggo though

will buy if under 300$
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2011, 03:31:31 PM »
It looks exactly like a ds lite with a slightly bigger top screen and an analog pad. I genuinely don't understand why people have a problem with its design. IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.

Bitch about the dpad placement or something substantial
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2011, 03:34:47 PM »
For what it's worth, ds lite isn't glossy on the inside of the clam shell.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2011, 03:39:20 PM »
It looks exactly like a ds lite with a slightly bigger top screen and an analog pad. I genuinely don't understand why people have a problem with its design. IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.

Bitch about the dpad placement or something substantial

i can't play layton 5 in 2013 without buying a 3ds

3DS! *shakes fist*

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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2011, 05:33:37 PM »
Looks ugly and shitty.
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2011, 06:03:02 PM »
edit: nevermind was looking at the XL
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2011, 06:32:34 PM »
Looks like I can play games on it, which is good enough for me because I'm not a fairy-princess ponce like the rest of you Marys.

 :zelda OH FIDDLESTICKS IT DOESN'T MATCH MY EARRINGS :zelda

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2011, 06:34:12 PM »
doesn't 3ds have a gyroscope?  from what i hear that works well on iphone games, could help somewhat with camera control here
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2011, 06:38:17 PM »
you'd have to hold that stylus all the time, though, which would render all the buttons on the right side of the unit practically useless
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2011, 06:40:49 PM »
The touch screen is probably good enough to substitute for a stick as far as camera control goes. 

stealth Mario 64 DS/thumbstrap troll?
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2011, 06:41:10 PM »
It looks exactly like a ds lite with a slightly bigger top screen and an analog pad. I genuinely don't understand why people have a problem with its design. IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.

Bitch about the dpad placement or something substantial

i can't play layton 5 in 2013 without buying a 3ds

3DS! *shakes fist*



oh no you might have to get a new console every 5 years or so. It sucks being 'serious' about gaming huh?
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2011, 06:42:44 PM »
Oh, I just use my thumb on the touchscreen.  I've heard about people who always need to use the stylus though.  Kinda weird.   :wtf

i could never get it to register well enough to just use my thumb when i owned a ds

there are thumb styli out there, i just never bothered to buy one
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2011, 06:45:35 PM »
Thankfully my earrings are shiny so I don't really mind 3ds. Tee hee! :zelda
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2011, 07:21:26 PM »
iphone/ipad with 2$ games >>>>>>>>>>>>>> handhelds with 30$ titles

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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2011, 07:30:27 PM »
Aint that some real talk. Poors leave
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2011, 07:31:42 PM »
i don't think poor belongs in the description of someone who buys apple products
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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2011, 07:31:50 PM »
I think touch screen camera control works wonderfully on the iphone, but that is a glass capacitive touch screen compared to the archaic resistive one on the 3DS (iirc).  It's really responsive and natural to swipe around to move the camera as you would with a track ball.

Looks like I can play games on it, which is good enough for me because I'm not a fairy-princess ponce like the rest of you Marys.

 :zelda OH FIDDLESTICKS IT DOESN'T MATCH MY EARRINGS :zelda

Matte just feels better, if that makes sense.  The type of plastic used can make the device/controller more comfortable to hold, like that new Xbox 360 controller that has a butt ugly color scheme but feels nicer to grip.  Same goes for the way the bottom screen is arranged with buttons that are under (what I assume is) a thin sheet of plastic; how it will feel rather than how it looks.  (I'm aware that's it is weird to critical about the plastic used in it, btw.  I just expected something to change since the other weak things about it, such as the low resolution and resistive touch screen, were not likely to.)

It mostly just looks fine and like the ds lite.  There is only one upcoming handheld that can be described as "sexy" and "sexable": the Panasonic Jungle.  Eat your heart out, Gizmondo.

i don't think poor belongs in the description of someone who buys apple products

haha, consider yourself lucky for not meeting people who complain about being dirty poor and jobless while fiddling with their iphone 4.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2011, 07:34:49 PM »
i don't know anyone in real life who owns an apple anything other than myself, tbh
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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2011, 07:35:02 PM »
It looks exactly like a ds lite with a slightly bigger top screen and an analog pad. I genuinely don't understand why people have a problem with its design. IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.

Bitch about the dpad placement or something substantial

i can't play layton 5 in 2013 without buying a 3ds

3DS! *shakes fist*



oh no you might have to get a new console every 5 years or so. It sucks being 'serious' about gaming huh?

ehy he was the one who asked for substantial bitching :spin
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2011, 07:55:41 PM »
Wiating for 3DS Lite/Color/Mini/Micro/Nano whatever
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2011, 08:12:03 PM »
i don't think poor belongs in the description of someone who buys apple products

Oh, it definitely does these days.  I remember when I was a kid and I went to my classmates' houses for birthday parties, it was always the welfare cases living in the shittiest apartments with hobo-brand peanut butter who had the nicest TV sets.  That's what Apple products are now.  

the operative word there is probably 'buys'
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2011, 08:16:30 PM »
Wiating for 3DS Lite/Color/Mini/Micro/Nano whatever

Already looks small than the DS Lite
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Re: 3DS Chinese Connection
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2011, 02:33:26 AM »
ugly design. I expect a slicker revision 6 months later.

but if it is true that it has 128MB RAM instead of 64MB RAM first reported, then I am pleasantly surprised.



Uh according to the first pic isnt it 96MB?  That would be 64 + 32?

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2011, 02:44:46 AM »
Or 128-32

Single chip vs two chips
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2011, 03:00:48 AM »
i don't think poor belongs in the description of someone who buys apple products

I dunno, under 200 bucks for the low-end iPod Touch is a great buy considering the hardware. Just don't drop it.

I feel like I could use my DSi as a weapon and it would still play games afterward. The iPod, I'm afraid of dropping it. Onto grass. From a foot up.

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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2011, 03:29:43 AM »
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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2011, 03:49:50 AM »
I bet it's a dev machine, which traditionally come with more RAM. 32 Megs extra for that sound about right.

I will believe the 128MB rumours when I see the chip on the retail mainboard.

Designing the system with only 64MB sounds exactly like something Nintendo would do.
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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2011, 03:50:49 AM »
No shaky hands or bumpy roads allowed

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Kid Icarus Uprising director Masahiro Sakurai has a suggestion for playing the 3DS: keep the system still!

In a few Tweets earlier this week, Sakurai responded to a follower's questions about the 3DS's 3D effect, and also shed some light onto the effect a shaky hand can have on the system.

3D can make your eyes tired, said Sakurai, but because the effect varies depending on the person, he suggested that players make adjustments using the system's 3D slider adjuster.

He also suggested that players keep the 3DS fixed. The reason for this is that the system's 3D view is achieved through the player's eyes being in a set position, so if the shake that results from control inputs is too harsh, there could be issues.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/04/sakurai_steady_3ds/
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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2011, 04:16:42 AM »
What if you have rock-steady hands like a surgeon on Adderall...but a bobbly head? What then, Evilbore
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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2011, 04:26:03 AM »
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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2011, 05:24:20 AM »
So a portable device you have to be sitting perfectly still for? Brilliant
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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2011, 05:25:16 AM »
So a portable device you have to be sitting perfectly still for? Brilliant

it's just a recomendation.


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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2011, 05:32:30 AM »
What if you have rock-steady hands like a surgeon on Adderall...but a bobbly head? What then, Evilbore

George Clooney can fuck all the models he wants, he'll never get the true 3DS experience like me :smug
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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2011, 05:43:45 AM »
now just give me a 3DS castlevania and it will all be good

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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2011, 05:58:27 AM »
Can't wait till No$GBA 2.9 comes out and has 3DS emulation built-in.

considering the PSP doesnt even have a good emulator yet, I think we have to wait...

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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2011, 06:27:39 AM »
Can't wait till No$GBA 2.9 comes out and has 3DS emulation built-in.

I'd have thought you'd have been pretty good at waiting by now, Borys.
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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2011, 06:54:17 AM »
now just give me a 3DS castlevania and it will all be good

yes i can't wait to see 1993 Rondo of Blood sprites in glorious 3D!

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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2011, 07:57:49 AM »
now just give me a 3DS castlevania and it will all be good

yes i can't wait to see 1993 Rondo of Blood sprites in glorious 3D!

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2011, 09:57:03 AM »
I'll be turning that 3D switch off the minute I get mine and I'll be awfully surprised if it ever goes on again.

depending on how it is, I might do the same for a lot of games.  I like the 3D effect but it will have no impact on the actual games.  It's a shame that they can't design mechanics around the use of depth and things like that.  It's just a nice visual gimmick, and don't get me wrong, it's nice, but that's pretty much it.

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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2011, 10:00:40 AM »
I'll be turning that 3D switch off the minute I get mine and I'll be awfully surprised if it ever goes on again.

depending on how it is, I might do the same for a lot of games.  I like the 3D effect but it will have no impact on the actual games.  It's a shame that they can't design mechanics around the use of depth and things like that.  It's just a nice visual gimmick, and don't get me wrong, it's nice, but that's pretty much it.

How come?

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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2011, 10:01:12 AM »
Maybe he thinks 2D to 3D seamless transition,games will have to be fully playable in both modes,that will kinda limit 3D stuff
Maybe someone releases something designed for 3D only,black screen if you move slider to 2D


I wonder if power consumption is (significantly)higher with 3D on

« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 10:08:13 AM by maxy »
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2011, 10:21:56 AM »
^yeah.  Because you can turn 3D off completely, it means it won't be more than a visual gimmick.  They can't alienate everyone who doesn't want to, or just can't, use the 3D effect.  It's going to be like what you can do on the PC, PS3, 360 (for Black Ops, Avatar, and I think Batman AA), Boogie on Wii, Rad Racer/3D World Runner NES, etc.  Again, I'm not trying to say it isn't going to nice as a visual effect, just that it won't be anything more.  Any type of game on the 3DS you can play on other systems; it's not like suddenly there will be a game that requires you to thread a needle by comparing their distance in 3D space.  wait, don't steal that idea while I go ring up Majesco.

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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2011, 10:23:34 AM »
I just want my visual novels (like Phoenix Wright) in full 3D.

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« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2011, 09:24:20 PM »
What you guys are not taking into account is that 3D, done right, is way more than a gimmick. Once you've seen a game running in 3D, you won't want to go back. It's not about crazy depth-of-field OMG FINGER IN MY EYE! type effects; it's about a richer, more convincing picture. Saying you would turn it off is like saying you would always choose the Dolby stereo track on a DVD even when you own a nice receiver and a 5.1 speaker system. Maybe once in a while, if the game in question is REALLY poorly optimized for 3D (and knowing Ninty's quality control over 3rd parties, there will be a few of those for sure).
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« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2011, 09:42:07 PM »
I have seen a game running in 3D and I have made the comparison of a surround sound before (in that it enhances the experience, rather than is essential to the enjoyment).  But you have to understand that the 3DS solution isn't at the point yet where you sacrifice nothing for the benefits of 3D.  People have complained before about the limited angle in which the 3D effect works, and now you have Sakurai talking about how shaking it around is problematic.  It's just that sometimes I want to lie down on my comfy couch and not worry about holding it a certain way; in those times, I'd rather just turn it off and enjoy the game.  It's not really Nintendo's fault because I can't think of another consumer device that uses this glasses-less 3D method and it is forward thinking in a way.  I'm actually hoping it catches on so there could be even more interest in 3D tech, because I do like the idea of it; the current solutions aren't perfected yet, be it the viewing angle or wearing glasses.   But I'm mostly just blowing hot air and am speculating about this stuff.

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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2011, 10:21:59 PM »
i think the screen is too small for it to be anything more than a novelty in most games

"haha, the 1/2 inch man is coming out of the screen, look at that"
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