3DS Chinese Connection(3D not mandatory,up to developers)

[maxy]

That doesn't bother me,2D ftw

[SantaC]

the 3D effect can be turned off if it is annoying.

[AdmiralViscen]

I'd buy a 2D-only version for $150

[Damian79]

This person, says the console is hard to play while moving, with the 3D but also with the camera integration in some games.

Lies confirmed the camera is fairly smooth.

[recursivelyenumerable]

With regards to FF, where should they put it?  The series is facing a declining customer base, skyrocketing budgets, and increasing indifference from the west.  They put their other major franchise onto handhelds and got a record result, saleswise.

They're not interchangeable "major franchises".   Being a showcase for high production values is a big part of the role of the numbered FF series. DQ is completely different in that regard. I think if anything rather than put numbered games on handhelds, they'd be more likely to just only put out a new numbered game every five to ten years or so, and put out a lot more spinoffs on handhelds instead. It's what they're more or less already doing with Kingdom Hearts.

[EmCeeGrammar]

FFX really didn't outsell FFIX? Huh.

[maxy]

Your Nintendo 3DS is not only a gaming device, it’s also a pedometer. It can track your steps and collect this data within the Activity Log  application. But it seems like Nintendo are actively encouraging you to walk around with your 3DS. There’s a “Game Coins” feature built-in to the device that gives you “coins” based on how many steps you take. These coins can then be used to unlock new content in games. You may be thinking “this is stupid!” and yes, you can often trick pedometers without much hassle. But I like that Nintendo is increasing the usefulness of StreetPass mode. If everyone ends up walking around with their 3DS we all get to benefit from its more unique features.

http://nintendo3dsblog.com/the-nintendo-3ds-features-a-game-coins-system-that-ties-in-with-the-pedometer

hate this unlocking shit
in order to unlock hard difficulty please take a walk

[EmCeeGrammar]

I think it would be cool if it were a part of a larger achievement esque system that actually took your in game accomplishments, monetized them, and could be interchanged between all of your games. It would be used as a pseudo currency to unlock extras and whatnot.  Essentially just taking the pointless arbitrary gamerscore crap and instituting a genuine incentive system in its stead.  And then you could supplement that with walking.

[pilonv1]

Just for the assburgers crowd to make sure they carry their 3DS 24 hours a day like the good little walking advertisements they are.

[Van Cruncheon]

more likely, it's designed to force a ubiquity of the platform on a person. if the 3ds is already on your person, chances are you'll make it part of your narbo lifestyle and hopefully buy games, although really this will just encourage piracy as who wants to carry a sack fulla carts with them as well

[Van Cruncheon]

it's region locked? TODAY IS A SAD PANDA DAY

[pilonv1]

Won't this just encourage kids to tie their 3DS to their dog or something while they go to school?

[maxy]

From EG,via Kotaku

Nintendo has discontinued production of the Nintendo DSi, according to a Japanese retail source.

The only available DSi units are those currently in inventory, Kotaku reports.

The larger DSi XL is still in production, apparently.

With the Nintendo 3DS handheld just a few months from release, attention is turning away from Nintendo's DS family of consoles. Kotaku speculates the decision might have been made to help differentiate the two consoles in consumers' minds.

Released in 2008, the DSi is the third iteration of the DS. It is similar in design to the DS Lite, features a low-resolution camera and connects to the Nintendo DSi Shop.

We've asked Nintendo for clarification.

yeah,yeah Kotaku is this and that,but even a blind chicken hits sometimes...they destroyed nerds with that home stuff,fun times


Yesterday I was kinda browsing my local shops* and i noticed that DS section was just DSi,DSi,DSi,DSi,nothing else...hmm

*

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looked for PS3 prices,now you can find cheaper PS3 than 4GB Slim 360...found one that costs like exactly like my PSP(bought year ago),12 months warranty...sold out,damn
 

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[maxy]

 

Now, the DS Lite?  They stopped producing those a while ago.  As you've noticed.

I wish i noticed that before,cheap DS Lite...damn,barely ever clicked on Nintendo section
Hopefully they stop producing DSi soon
DS was quite expensive here,especially if you want free games...more expensive than PSP

[maxy]

Browsed a little more,some interesting finds
No 3DS mention,DSi(DSi XL) only,PSP prices are like 10 euros down from last year(about the same as vanilla DSi)
Except for some pink PSP...50 euros down

[EmCeeGrammar]

3ds has a region code.  Either wait for a crack or buy two units from your respective preferred regions (lol)

[maxy]

Region codes

Personally i don't care about Japan stuff,but US,EU stuff yes
EU always gets the shaft,soo...hack it quickly

Eurogamer has some pictures(not seen before,i think)

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=&article_id=1316299#anchor

Cradle seems nice

[MCD]

Yeah, this shit need to be hacked day 1.

[maxy]

Big mistake by Nintendo,i think

Just like with other OS PS3 stuff,hackers now have legitimate reason to to crack the system and more importantly they will be praised by legitimate users if they succeed.Byproduct of this is always piracy and the one that does it will be praised by both groups.

In other words,thanks Nintendo 



 

[Sho Nuff]

Region lock? Interest now dropping into negative numbers. Bye bye

[demi]

lol, cause we are all gonna import J-games...

America #1, as usual

[SantaC]

lol, cause we are all gonna import J-games...

America #1, as usual

more like europeans wanting to play american games on their 3DS.

Time to import a 3DS.

[cool breeze]

That's a shame.  I have 10 or more import games from Japan and Europe for my DS.  Guess I'll have to hold off on importing games until the thing is hacked or something.

[Bebpo]

yeah, not touching it at launch now.  No must have games for me on the system until KH3DS comes out in 2012.

I hope Sony doesn't follow Nintendo's lead and region lock the PSP2 :\

[iconoclast]

Oh well, that oughta make the wait until it's <$200 with a flashcard available that much easier.

My three most played DS games are imports that I actually bought too (Ouendan 1&2, Ketsui).

[Corporal]

It's regionlocked? Meh. Now I'll definitely stand on the sidelines and wait for a "Lite" iteration.

[Mr. Gundam]

lol, cause we are all gonna import J-games...

America #1, as usual

I actually own more Japanese DS games than I do NA games.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

region lock = wait for RS4D

[Sho Nuff]

You know, the nice thing about portable gaming is going to another country and picking up a game there knowing that of course it'll work, it's a portable system!

 

[maxy]

Square Enix producer Takamasa Shiba has told VG247 that he is looking forward to hardware improvements afforded by the yet-to-be-announced PSP2.

Speaking with us in Tokyo regarding upcoming PSP actioner Lord of Arcana, Shiba said that while hardware is something that’s constantly being both created and tweaked, software needs to be created to push new hardware on consumers.

“There are a lot of things I’m excited for the PSP2, but I’m more interested in hardware specifics rather than a unique feature,” said Shiba.

“Hardware is always coming out, so the software needs to be pushing the hardware as well. So, if they put something in that’s very unique then it is hard to create games for it.

“As a creator, I’m looking forward to mainly hardware improvements.”

Take that,Mr EmCee

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http://www.vg247.com/2011/01/11/squares-shiba-looking-forward-to-hardware-improvements-in-psp2/#more-136656


When 3DS was announced,I thought that PSP2 had no chance against it but now i'm not so sure
Lots of unpopular stuff by Nintendo lately(battery and now region lock) and they have yet to announce price in the West.

Sony should just lay low and then like a true predator attack 3DS weak points,without mercy...just like 360 vs PS3

I love competition.

[Purple Filth]

Square Enix producer Takamasa Shiba has told VG247 that he is looking forward to hardware improvements afforded by the yet-to-be-announced PSP2.

Speaking with us in Tokyo regarding upcoming PSP actioner Lord of Arcana, Shiba said that while hardware is something that’s constantly being both created and tweaked, software needs to be created to push new hardware on consumers.

“There are a lot of things I’m excited for the PSP2, but I’m more interested in hardware specifics rather than a unique feature,” said Shiba.

“Hardware is always coming out, so the software needs to be pushing the hardware as well. So, if they put something in that’s very unique then it is hard to create games for it.

“As a creator, I’m looking forward to mainly hardware improvements.”

Take that,Mr EmCee

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http://www.vg247.com/2011/01/11/squares-shiba-looking-forward-to-hardware-improvements-in-psp2/#more-136656


When 3DS was announced,I thought that PSP2 had no chance against it but now i'm not so sure
Lots of unpopular stuff by Nintendo lately(battery and now region lock) and they have yet to announce price in the West.

Sony should just lay low and then like a true predator attack 3DS weak points,without mercy

I love competition.

Sony should go back to thier Ps1 roots aka when they were trying to get in (though they cant money hat like i've heard they did during those days)

[maxy]

They should attack third party,send million engineers,moneyhat,timed exclusive,whatever...just get them to release PSP2 version at least day and date as 3DS...
As for hardware,Sony could be willing to undercut,lose some money on hardware...unlike Nintendo
I know that PS3 stuff has hit them hard,but just match 3DS price

If 3D stuff becomes some massive hit they can always neutralize it with some 3D revision,people will moan a little,but who cares...3DS will always support 3D,2D modes...even field

Utilize PSN...Nintendo is ages behind
Utilize dual analogs
Utilize PS2 if possible

[Don Flamenco]

Given Sony's current state, you guys are nuts if you think the 3DS is going to be affected at all by the PSP2.  Sony just doesn't try at all.  They're going to do their usual "quietly launch some expensive ass shit in hopes of making it look sacred and super high class" routine, which will be compounded by how unfriendly their dev tools tend to be leading to less games, and then the system will coast by on externally generated hype, with only a few "wtf" ads from sony.  It'll tread water, but I doubt it's going to make any impact on the 3DS.  Things like battery life (as long as it gets a few hours) and region lock do not matter to kids/nintendo fans. 

I'm not saying it doesn't have a chance of being the better system after benefitting from longer development time and from being able to see the competition, just like Move is more advanced and better than the Wii controller, but sales-wise, it's more than likely going to be another blood bath, just like Move vs. the Wii, or better, the DS and PSP.

[maxy]

Things like battery life (as long as it gets a few hours) and region lock do not matter to kids/nintendo fans. 

Price will matter(with kids),that is my starting point,without that slim chance.In short I'm not counting on casuals immediately jumping on 3DS and that gives Sony decent time to attack.Japan seems to like PSP,that should be exploited.

You are probably right,marketing campaign will include Marcus,3DS is for kids etc,etc...as usual

[Don Flamenco]

Nintendo might have enough of a name at this point to launch a $300 handheld successfully.  But I think it'll be $250 in the U.S. 

[cool breeze]

To be fair, when Sony reveals the PSP2, people won't be as surprised by the price or battery life.  I'm expecting Sony to put out a device as impractical as it is powerful.

honestly, the only thing that annoys me about the 3DS is the touch screen.  Battery life, region locking, and those things are issues but won't really impact the quality of games.  I remember thinking that a second analog slider wouldn't be needed since they had a touch screen and I was going off my experience playing iPhone shooters.  But the iphone has a nice glass capacitive screen that's easy to slide your thumb around on.  The 3DS is still going to rely on the stylus because it is using a cheaper resistive screen.  It will probably run into the same problems as the PSP with camera control in 3D games, which we'll probably see more of now.  There is also the lack of multitouch and other nice things I've become accustomed too in the time since the DS first came out.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I'd rather that game designers move on from cameras that need to be adjusted. That applies to all platforms.  No seriously, I hate stuff like babysitting the camera in monster hunter, shit needs to be isometric or top down or something before I would call it enjoyable.  I feel that way about a lot of 3d games. So often the problems could be alleviated if they would just pull the camera viewpoint off of your characters ass, but I guess they put so many polygons into the character model they wouldn't want it to go unappreciated.

[maxy]

more here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25368254&postcount=1


Every day a new picture

[Sho Nuff]

Oh my freaking god more leaked photos 

CHINESE DUDES = BALLS OF STEEL

[pilonv1]

how about some leaked specs

[maxy]

Stolen from gaf

(Image removed from quote.)

Obviously, every Nintendo console has to go through Miyamoto's own approval process.

 

[maxy]

UK shops are now taking pre-orders for Nintendo's 3DS console, and have listed unconfirmed release dates and pricing for the handheld.

TheHut, WHSmith, Best Buy UK and Woolworths all peg the 3DS for release on 18th March if you pre-order or 25th March otherwise for an eye-watering £299.93. They each list the 3DS in blue, black and red.

UK shops have started taking preorders,i doubt that they have any Nintendo input on price,but damn

£300

[EmCeeGrammar]

I'd rather that game designers move on from cameras that need to be adjusted. That applies to all platforms.  No seriously, I hate stuff like babysitting the camera in monster hunter, shit needs to be isometric or top down or something before I would call it enjoyable.  I feel that way about a lot of 3d games. So often the problems could be alleviated if they would just pull the camera viewpoint off of your characters ass, but I guess they put so many polygons into the character model they wouldn't want it to go unappreciated.

Its been 15 years since Mario 64, you'd think you can control cameras by now mate.

I can control them just fine. Its still annoying as fuck and in most games it would make sense to simply go with a practical perspective. But no the developer put so much effort into these textures we could never pull the camera back.

pffffffffffffffttttttttttt.

[maxy]

Just like Oscar said,this way they will just lower the price..."honey,it's more cheaper than we thought,wohoo"
Lots of people are betting on £250,even that seems kinda high to me.


more pics,down to the smallest parts

http://www.tvgzone.com/thread-4818-1-1.html


Famous 3D screen






Made by Sharp


But Chinese are not sleeping, no no

http://kotaku.com/5731464/the-playstation-phone-torn-apart/gallery/

Sony should hurry with PSP2 announcement,they could be tearing it up right now

[Himu]

HOLY SHIT. THEY ADDED NEW ANIMATIONS TO EVEN ENEMIES AND TRIVIAL SHIT LIKE DARUNIA'S DANCE

[youtube=560,345]KhcTqKA1CIc[/youtube]

[AdmiralViscen]

OMFG. PREORDERED

[Don Flamenco]

I'd rather that game designers move on from cameras that need to be adjusted. That applies to all platforms.  No seriously, I hate stuff like babysitting the camera in monster hunter, shit needs to be isometric or top down or something before I would call it enjoyable.  I feel that way about a lot of 3d games. So often the problems could be alleviated if they would just pull the camera viewpoint off of your characters ass, but I guess they put so many polygons into the character model they wouldn't want it to go unappreciated.

I'd rather have a manual camera than fixed angles.  I like a smooth, persistent view vs. going from scene to scene. 

and just no @ isometric/top down in Monster Hunter or any game with jumping for that matter. 

[MCD]

It really looks wonderful.

[cool breeze]

I'd rather that game designers move on from cameras that need to be adjusted. That applies to all platforms.  No seriously, I hate stuff like babysitting the camera in monster hunter, shit needs to be isometric or top down or something before I would call it enjoyable.  I feel that way about a lot of 3d games. So often the problems could be alleviated if they would just pull the camera viewpoint off of your characters ass, but I guess they put so many polygons into the character model they wouldn't want it to go unappreciated.

It's nice to want things and all but things won't get better with the 3DS.  Plus having an automatic camera can't work for many types of games, including any type of shooter or game where you need direct camera control.  Reading impressions of Kid Icarus, it seems like you need to play it in the same uncomfortable position as Metroid Hunters.  I think the game looks pretty cool but the control scheme seems bad; I almost wish it was on the Wii so I can play it comfortably like Sin and Punishment 2.

I actually think touch screen/panel is potentially better than a second stick if the quality is good.  The problem with iphone games is movement, not the camera.  It feels like using a virtual trackball.

[Trent Dole]

When is the first big game coming?

HOLY SHIT. THEY ADDED NEW ANIMATIONS TO EVEN ENEMIES AND TRIVIAL SHIT LIKE DARUNIA'S DANCE

ILL PAY 40 FOR THAT

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They'll charge $50

[Sho Nuff]

Capcom is insinuating that it's got per-game friend codes too. Awesome. They will never learn until people stop buying their stuff.

[maxy]

If Sony doesn't use PSN to maximum with PSP2...no words

[Bebpo]

Capcom is insinuating that it's got per-game friend codes too. Awesome. They will never learn until people stop buying their stuff.

Bleh

It's too bad 3DS will kill PSP2 since PSP2 looks like it could be the handheld, gamers actually WANT (dual analogue so good camera controls in games, PSN for real friendslist/online like the console big boys, region free, 1 screen).  I just hope PSP2 carves enough of a niche that it gets consistent solid support like the PSP did vs. the DS.

If Sony doesn't use PSN to maximum with PSP2...no words

It'll use PSN.  Sony loves put their stuff across all their products.

[Trent Dole]

Capcom is insinuating that it's got per-game friend codes too. Awesome. They will never learn until people stop buying their stuff.

What? Fuck off, Nintendo.

[TakingBackSunday]

The original PSP was the handheld that "gamers wanted" and that didn't work out either.

[Bebpo]

PSP was a success imo.  I have a huge library of awesome games on it and more are still being made every year.  If PSP2 can get the level of support that PSP has gotten I will breakdance on the dance floor. 

I have a stroooong fear though that it'll be closer to the support the Saturn got coming off the SegaCD.  The nichiest of niche support.  I just don't see a market for it outside of Japan and in Japan where in a vacuum it could have been the strong successor to the PSP which is extremely huge there...in the real world the 3DS is going to kill it because it'll be out first and PSP2 won't offer anything the 3DS can't to the casual Japanese gamer.

[SantaC]

PSP was a success imo.  I have a huge library of awesome games on it and more are still being made every year.  If PSP2 can get the level of support that PSP has gotten I will breakdance on the dance floor. 

I have a stroooong fear though that it'll be closer to the support the Saturn got coming off the SegaCD.  The nichiest of niche support.  I just don't see a market for it outside of Japan and in Japan where in a vacuum it could have been the strong successor to the PSP which is extremely huge there...in the real world the 3DS is going to kill it because it'll be out first and PSP2 won't offer anything the 3DS can't to the casual Japanese gamer.

wait what, you think the PSP library is that fantastic? It mostly got a bunch of spinoff games of popular franchises, but never really starred in a huge mainline game.

[Bebpo]

Oh really?

You mean like MGS5? Parasite Eve 3?  FFXIII Agito?  FF7 Crisis Core? Kingdom Hearts BBS?  Super Robot Wars Z2?  Zettai Zetsumei 3? 2 Syphon Filter games?  2 God of War games?  A Resistance game arguably better than the console entries?  2 of the best Wipeout games in the series?  Zettai Hero Project?  Tons of original titles like Crush, Patapon, Loco Roco?  The Metal Gear Ac!d series?  Etc..etc...

Just because they don't slap a number on a game doesn't make it some fanservice spinoff.  PSP started off good, became shakey and then came back fucking strong in the last 2 years and still has another year or so of strong support.

[MCD]

Ys games made PSP relevant.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I prefer japanese gaming and even Bebpo's list is far too weeaboo for me.  Seriously, Metal gear and anything square enix makes are embarrassing wannabe cinematic experience wank.

I can't imagine Nintendo is going to be that distinguished mentally-challenged going with a per game friendcode again.  It arguably killed the online acceptance of the wii and ds.  I think they are going to do a single friendcode that simply links your systems.  They've been encouraging developers to have their wii games automatically link people in your system friend list with the same game, although it is rarely implemented.