3DS Chinese Connection(3D not mandatory,up to developers)

[SantaC]

Oh really?

You mean like MGS5? Parasite Eve 3?  FFXIII Agito?  FF7 Crisis Core? Kingdom Hearts BBS?  Super Robot Wars Z2?  Zettai Zetsumei 3? 2 Syphon Filter games?  2 God of War games?  A Resistance game arguably better than the console entries?  2 of the best Wipeout games in the series?  Zettai Hero Project?  Tons of original titles like Crush, Patapon, Loco Roco?  The Metal Gear Ac!d series?  Etc..etc...

Just because they don't slap a number on a game doesn't make it some fanservice spinoff.  PSP started off good, became shakey and then came back fucking strong in the last 2 years and still has another year or so of strong support.

PSP has MGS5, what? FFXIII agitoI + FF7 CC = spinoff games. Kingdom Hearts, lol that series is shit. You say  it has tons of original titles, and you list two? God of War chains of olympics isnt nearly as good as console versions.

When the PSP came out with that slick hardware at the time I expected it to trounce the crappy DS hardware, but instead it was the DS that got the better support by far.

[Bebpo]

You asked for huge mainline games.  That means you need an existing franchise for it to be huge.  If you want I could list dozens of great original psp titles.  It has those as well.

The thing is that in the last 2 years, the psp has been the only system to truly succeed the PS2.  All big franchises in Japan on PS2 when they have new entries are on PSP right now.  It's the place to be.  What main games did the DS get?  A few Tales, a few SMT, a few Castlevania and a ton of spinoffs, original games, and Nintendo franchises.  Same deal as psp.  The libraries are basically even at this point in major quality titles.

[maxy]

I think that they are just trying to troll,Bebpo

PSP is a nice device with some really good and fun games(even in the West,I care mostly about that)...shame that people* here(in the west) don't like dedicated handhelds much(DS can thank majority of its sales to casuals,parents)

Just bring core Western devs on board with PSP2,release decent software steady and I will be there

*hardcore

[cool breeze]

PSP hardware has and always will be superior to the ds.  Exclusive software support is shaky and the ds trumps it, but the psp can play ps1 games.  Even if you don't want to use homebrew, PS1 games cost anywhere from $3 to $10 on PSN.

Getting into software is another thing.  I'll just say that the PSP did revive floundering or dead series like Wipeout, Ridge Racer, and Syphon filter...only for most of them to be forgotten because of the PS3 lol ( :'().  I think the wipeout crew is gone, Bend went from the two great splinter cell games to spin-offs of PS3 franchises (Resistance Retribution was better than Resistance 2, and they're rumored to be making Uncharted for the PSP2), and Namco is being Namco and has put Ridge Racer on everything after it became good again.  But at least Twisted Metal seems to be back.

[archie4208]

The only thing the DS has over the PSP is better SMT games.  Otherwise, the PSP is a much better system.

[EmCeeGrammar]

MGS5?
Parasite Eve 3? 
FFXIII Agito? 
FF7 Crisis Core?
Kingdom Hearts BBS? 
Super Robot Wars Z2? 
Zettai Zetsumei 3?
A Resistance game arguably better than the console entries? 
Zettai Hero Project?  
The Metal Gear Ac!d series? 

No seriously, don't ever diss the wii again, man.  I'm willing to give stuff like patapon and wipeout the benefit of the doubt, but square enix and kojima embarfass themselves and the japanese industry.   Alot of this is seriously reaching.

edit: EM BARF ASS

[EmCeeGrammar]

Hyperbolic nerds sperging out ITT.

*including me

[pilonv1]

Capcom is insinuating that it's got per-game friend codes too. Awesome. They will never learn until people stop buying their stuff.

how can anyone be interested in this train wreck now?

[pilonv1]

Hopefully Sony has a decent online service for it.

...

[Diunx]

If Sony doesn't use PSN to maximum with PSP2...no words

It'll use PSN.  Sony loves put their stuff across all their products.

I hope so, it would be cool if they let me use psn account and let me chat/ send message to friends and see what they are playing and shit even if they don't own a psp2.

[EmCeeGrammar]

 
Per game friend codes have not been confirmed yet. If the stuff they have been experimenting with on the wii is any indication*, they will be moving towards a universal code system, i.e. a really long phone number which permanently puts another player on all your friends lists no matter what game.

* Mariokart crossreferenced two friended wii systems to see if they both had the game and automatically places the players on each other friend list.  A few third party games have done the same.

[Diunx]

PSP has a better real games library then the Wii.

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And Peace Walker is anything but a spin off its a direct continuation of the mgs3 story and the gameplay is closer to mgs4 than to mgs:po.

Sony has been putting 3d on everything, I would be shock if the psp2 doesn't have 3d support.

[Sho Nuff]

It would be fucking awesome if they put a GPS and a Kindle Whispernet-style always-on free 3G connection inside it for leaderboards/simple messaging. I don't think you could possibly download full games over 3G due to the sizes, but it'd be phat for location aware gaming.

[pilonv1]

It would be fucking awesome if they put a GPS and a Kindle Whispernet-style always-on free 3G connection inside it for leaderboards/simple messaging. I don't think you could possibly download full games over 3G due to the sizes, but it'd be phat for locating innocent children

[cool breeze]

I thought Peace Walker was kinda disappointing, actually.  It did have the good parts of MGS4, only really simplified and lacking in a lot of the detail that I liked about MGS games.  A lot of it felt like negative influence from Monster Hunter; it's most noticeable with the bosses.

Still great and a lot better than Portable Ops.  I still want MGS4 VR missions.  And make AC!D 3 for anything (or at least the iphone and one other device).

It would be fucking awesome if they put a GPS and a Kindle Whispernet-style always-on free 3G connection inside it for leaderboards/simple messaging. I don't think you could possibly download full games over 3G due to the sizes, but it'd be phat for locating innocent children

innocent children that will be walking in the street to earn coins

[maxy]

From EG

Not all 3DS games will have to make use of the device's 3D capabilities, Nintendo has revealed.

Answering a question from Earthbound creator Shigesato Itoi in a new Iwata Asks interview as to whether the handheld will be compatible with DS cartridges, Nintendo guru Shigeru Miyamoto explained, "It's compatible with software for previous Nintendo DS systems, which will be viewed in the 2D mode.

"New game cards, however, will be specific to Nintendo 3DS, but whether they will be in 3D or not is basically up to the maker, just like how much to use the touchscreen was up to developers for Nintendo DS."

The Mario creator went on to explain that he thought it was too much to expect all developers to immediately start developing in 3D.

"Suddenly requesting all the game developers to only make 3D games on game cards exclusive to the Nintendo 3DS from now on would really raise the hurdle for them.

"We thought it would be better for developers, as well as players, if they could do as they please depending on the software, having images jump out just a little or making games based significantly on 3D."

http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interview.html#/how-nintendo-3ds-made/0/5
good move


just saw this
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

looks nice,spectator mode sounds very interesting

3DS hype +1

[chronovore]

You know, the nice thing about portable gaming is going to another country and picking up a game there knowing that of course it'll work, it's a portable system!

 

In fairness, we're a vanishingly small percentage of the overall market.

However, I hate this every bit as much as you do.

[iconoclast]

Wow, the 3DS has one of the worst launch lineups I've ever seen. Professor Layton is the only game that looks remotely interesting. Awful.

[Shaka Khan]

Will the "Always On" wifi be, literally, always on and auto connecting devices together when they're in proximity and running the same game? I never read about the extent of the service before, as I've chalked it as being as useless as it was on DS when implemented by certain games.

This, however, streamlines the process and good things might come out of it... maybe... I don't know... it's nindendo, they'll screw it up somehow.

[Damian79]

Wow, the 3DS has one of the worst launch lineups I've ever seen. Professor Layton is the only game that looks remotely interesting. Awful.

  The ds was much worse.

Daigasso! Band Brothers (Nintendo)
Chokkan Hitofude (Polarium) (Nintendo)
Cool104 Joker & Setline (Aruze)
Kimi no Tame Nara Shineru (literally "I Would Die for You"; aka Feel the Magic: XY/XX aka "Project Rub") (Sega)
Kensyūi "Dokuta Tendo" (Spike)
Mahjong Taikai (Koei)
Mr. Driller: Drill Spirits (Namco)
Pokémon Dash (Nintendo)
Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
The Urbz: Sims in the City (Electronic Arts)
WarioWare: Touched! (Nintendo)
Zoo Keeper

[iconoclast]

Not that the DS had a good launch lineup either, but I'll take a new WarioWare and Feel the Magic over Layton. Even Daigasso was a decent novelty.

[AdmiralViscen]

Pretty sure Wario Ware came out 3-4 months after launch, at least in the US

[magus]

i loved the first year of the DS,it was full of original titles that made good use of the touch screen,stuff like pac-pix,trauma center,ouendan heck even yoshi touch & go

the 3DS at best can hope for a souped up port of f-zero x

or like remember nintendogs? sure it was a lame pet game,but it was an original lame pet game! you told your DS "PAW!" and the dog would follow... did they do a new whole voice controlled adventure on 3DS?

no they added cats to nintendogs

[EmCeeGrammar]

There's no doubt Super Street Fighter IV is the launch title to get, if one is silly enough to grab this thing at launch.

Somehow I doubt it will control well. The dpad seems to be in an uncomfortable position.

[Van Cruncheon]

good, abandoning touch and voice gimmicks for the ds was the best thing they ever did

god, you novelty-obsessed cretins

[EmCeeGrammar]

Don't you play shmups on your ipod?  Are you not guilty of being a fuddy duddy a lot of the time?

[EmCeeGrammar]

Gimmicks evolve into standards.

Not denying I like me some novelty.

edit: And I really think its foolish to dismiss touch interfaces at this point.  DS has proven it benefits many genres, iOs came along and has arguably made a vast majority interact with their games in such a way.

[Smooth Groove]

Touch controls will always suck on tiny screens. 

[magus]

Gimmicks evolve into standards.

Not denying I like me some novelty.

edit: And I really think its foolish to dismiss touch interfaces at this point.  DS has proven it benefits many genres, iOs came along and has arguably made a vast majority interact with their games in such a way.

well to be fair my DS screen is half busted and i simply don't feel the need to repair it because there aren't many games that make use of it

spoiler (click to show/hide)

also i'm a filthy poor :'(

[close]

god, you novelty-obsessed cretins

novelty

there was this PS2 game that you played trough voice control and i was so damn fascinated by it,i think it got out by the end but it wasn't very precise

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

i also remember that some detective game was in the work but i'm pretty sure that one never saw a release (or at least didn't leave japan) i can't remember the name of that one tough

[Himu]

i wanted to play lifeline

[iconoclast]

There's no doubt Super Street Fighter IV is the launch title to get, if one is silly enough to grab this thing at launch.

Somehow I doubt it will control well. The dpad seems to be in an uncomfortable position.

I read that Capcom worked with Nintendo to make sure the 3DS has a good d-pad. Hopefully that's true.

Besides, SF4 is very lenient with its inputs. It works fine* even with the 360 d-pad, and that thing is an abomination.

*Bison Ultra 1 excluded

[EmCeeGrammar]

There's no doubt Super Street Fighter IV is the launch title to get, if one is silly enough to grab this thing at launch.

Somehow I doubt it will control well. The dpad seems to be in an uncomfortable position.

I read that Capcom worked with Nintendo to make sure the 3DS has a good d-pad. Hopefully that's true.

Besides, SF4 is very lenient with its inputs. It works fine* even with the 360 d-pad, and that thing is an abomination.

*Bison Ultra 1 excluded

Its not about the dpad quality. Its in an unergonomic postion.

[TakingBackSunday]

el oh el at thinking zoo keeper was a good DS game

[cool breeze]

did the DS launch in the states before Japan? I remember importing band bros a few weeks after I had my DS.  the multiplayer was like rock band before rock band was rock band...in beeps and boops.

[pilonv1]

el oh el at thinking zoo keeper was a good DS game

beggars cant be choosers

[magus]

i tought that half effort was supposed to be zelda?

[pilonv1]

So many memories of shit games, Urbz, Sprung, Ping Pals and Rub Rabbits.

And Nintendo is launching with only Nintendogs+Cats as their first party title?

[Herr Mafflard]

It's kinda funny and sad that the game i'm most excited for at the moment is the zelda port.

[magus]

It's kinda funny and sad that the game i'm most excited for at the moment is the zelda port.

why not kid icarus? it's a new game made by someone with a ounce of talent

[EmCeeGrammar]

It's kinda funny and sad that the game i'm most excited for at the moment is the zelda port.

why not kid icarus? it's a new game made by someone with a ounce of talent

Kid Icarus uses the same control configuration as Metroid Prime Hunters.  It all sounds good on paper until you have to play the game for more than 10 minutes.  I had shooting pains going up my hands during my time with hunters, and there was no way to play the game comfortably.  Kid Icarus really shoudve been a Wii game.

[Shaka Khan]

It's starting to sound like you have deformed penguin flippers or something, emcee.

Add to that his creepy internet stalking habits, AND THE PUZZLE IS COMPLETE!

I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I remember the penny arcade duo mentioned similar things.  As well as many other people around the time of launch.  Essentially with your thumb on the dpad/slider and the index on the l button, that leaves your left over three fingers figuring out how to cradle the system as you poke it with the stylus.  It usually involves some weird palming with the meaty bottom part of the thumb. 

I DO have pretty bad manual dexterity though. Anytime I have worked in food service sliced cheese is my nemesis. Its so frigging difficult to separate the cheese from the paper.  I think I took an aptitude test in junior high which literally had a manual dexterity column that I did pretty bad in. Maybe this is why I like waggle so much.

[EmCeeGrammar]

It's starting to sound like you have deformed penguin flippers or something, emcee.

Add to that his creepy internet stalking habits, AND THE PUZZLE IS COMPLETE!

I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.

My e-stalking is tame by most standards. I just wanna know people's names.  I don't hear you guys criticizing demi when HE does it.

[magus]

Hunh, my hands didn't cramp up on Hunters.  It's starting to sound like you have deformed penguin flippers or something, emcee.

well to be fair i had problem playing with starfox... it's just a pain having to press the shoulder button constantly AND touching the touch screen

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nintendo knows they don't need a top tier Nintendo title - the 3DS will sell itself.

I got the DS on launch day with Super Mario 64 DS.  I thought it was a great game and it's a shame that it got shat on like it did.

[cool breeze]

shooters on the ds weren't comfortable for me either.  I had to hold it on a way where my pinky and sometimes ring finger were wrapped behind the top screen keeping it balanced while I held the pen.  I didn't get hand cramps, but it wasn't as nice as just being able to use my thumb like on the iphone touch screen or just having a second stick.  I do have that thumb cap thing that came with launch units I used on occasion.

I'd imagine it is worse for lefties now.

In general I preferred DS games that are either touch screen or regular button layout.  I hated that in early DS games there were gimmicky touch screen controls like in Viewtiful Joe or Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow.  I like the touch screen and couldn't imagine playing games like picross 3d without it, but the 'obligation' to have touch screen controls was stupid.

and on the topic of DS failings that won't carry on to the 3DS, the uneven screen ratios, as well as different screen purposes (one 3D, one touch) means no more games like Yoshi or Contra where they make one tall screen.

well to be fair i had problem playing with starfox... it's just a pain having to press the shoulder button constantly AND touching the touch screen

I just used the d-pad in star fox.  I actually didn't have a problem with it because I was able to get a solid grip with my left hand.

did the DS launch in the states before Japan? I remember importing band bros a few weeks after I had my DS.  the multiplayer was like rock band before rock band was rock band...in beeps and boops.

Yep, it launched in the US first.

So really, its launch titles were:

    * Asphalt Urban GT (Gameloft)
    * Feel the Magic: XY/XX (Sega)
    * Madden NFL 2005 (Electronic Arts)
    * Mr. Driller: Drill Spirits (Namco)
    * Ping Pals (THQ)
    * Ridge Racer DS (Namco)
    * Spider-Man 2 (Activision)
    * Sprung (Ubisoft)
    * Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt (Nintendo)
    * Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
    * The Urbz: Sims in the City (Electronic Arts)
    * Tiger Woods PGA Tour (Electronic Arts)

Either way, there have definitely been worse launches than both of them, particularly in Japan.  What is missing from both the DS and 3DS's launch titles that many worse launch line-ups have had is that one stellar, play-it-til-shit-gets-better title, which on Nintendo hardware is usually provided by Nintendo.  Unlike the DS, Nintendo couldn't even be arsed to put a half-effort like SM64 DS forward this time for launch.

ok, that makes sense.  I bought Mario 64 and Ridge Racer ( ) at launch.  First playing Ridge Racer on the PSP after my time with the DS version was like stepping out of a time machine.

[magus]

People played Hunters long enough to get hand cramps

well the demo was free

[Herr Mafflard]

I'm left-handed and Hunters felt pretty natural to control on the DS. Not quite KB/M levels, but as close as we're gonna get on a DS. In fact, i would argue that Hunters control scheme is better suited for lefties. Precision aiming using left-hand stylus, and right-hand firmly holding the DS, whilst firing using the R button seems natural.

[cool breeze]

People played Hunters long enough to get hand cramps

I just remembered that I never did finish that game, or any other ds games that used similar controls (I played a bit of dementium and moon).  So that may be it.

[EmCeeGrammar]

People played Hunters long enough to get hand cramps

It happens after like 10 minutes for me.

edit:
Starfox ds was just like Ninja Gaiden ds.  Full touch control supplemented with one button, and it could be any button on the ds.  It worked very well and it was very easy to find a comfortable playing postion. I liked both games and thought they controlled well.  Kid Icarus would be better served with a nunchuck setup based on what its doing.  I coulda swore Sora was supposed to be working on a wii game first, so maybe the project got moved.

[Shaka Khan]

People played Hunters long enough to get hand cramps

It happens after like 10 minutes for me.

I'm telling you guys: SYMBIOS!

[EmCeeGrammar]

That was a fruitless google image search.

[maxy]

via gaf

Johnathan Ross is hosting Wednesday event

Writing on the ever growing social media site Twitter, Ross wrote “I have been invited by Nintendo to host a conference next week that gives out info on the 3DS. Tried it yesterday! Booyah!”

Writing on popular social media site Twitter, Ross commented “What I can say about 3DS is that the 3D is far better than I would have thought possible without glasses. Can be switched to regular 2D!”

Whilst he confirmed that he had only been playing on a prototype model, Ross had nothing but praise for the upcoming handheld having played a number of titles including Mario Kart.

He then went on to comment that “The games that seem to benefit the most are the driving and shooting games – the perspective makes it all feel more accurate.”

Having been queried as to the other selection of games he was able to test, Ross only teased “A few other faves coming as well – plus a few unexpected revivals!” Although, it is more than likely that the games that he was referring to have already been announced and was playing coy in case they hadn’t.

Finally, Ross revealed that he actually owned a Virtual Boy back in the day, writing “Remember the Virtual Boy?! I had one of those. Great looking but weird to play.”

So what Nintendo game will be revived(ported) to 3DS?
"now in 3D!!!"

magus please answer

[Diunx]

He is probably talking about kid icarus.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

That was a fruitless google image search.

That is because he went by Synbios459 aka DCwiz aka rater of the races.

NSFA:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/synbios459/synbios459/Me/SUNP0054.jpg

Edit: For some reason, it won't display.  Above is the link.

[Akala]

DCwiz adds a bit of context.

[magus]

clearly F-Zero X souped up port,it's the only one they have never done!

[iconoclast]

A brand new *60 FPS* F-Zero would sell me on a 3DS.

Of course, knowing Nintendo it'll just be:

clearly F-Zero X souped up port,it's the only one they have never done!

[maxy]

First Japan shipment 400k

according to gaf(some Japanese blog)

[Beezy]

People played Hunters long enough to get hand cramps

Multiplayer was cheesy, but fun.