Author Topic: Catherine (X360/PS3) - July 26 (Read 25612 times)

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #240 on:** July 27, 2011, 03:45:37 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on July 27, 2011, 03:16:16 PM

Quote from: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 02:29:36 PM
I caved.

Had to drive to no less than 5 gamestops, 2 best buys, and a Target in Chicago to find this. I heard my quota of "OH BRAH YOU GOTTA RESERVE OR ELSE THE GAMES ARE JUST GONE AND YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET THEM" speeches for the year. The one time a game is scarce at release and they pounce on it and act like this is a common occurrence. I usually don't bitch about gamestop but man, I wish I could say ANYTHING to get them to stop their preorder speeches forever. I straight up say "I will not be preordering anything today" in advance and I still get it ("Oh? Are you sure you don't want to preorder? *names every game coming out in the next 6 months*".) Even at the one I frequent, where the guys know me and we chat and stuff, they still say it every time and are like "sorry man I gotta ask this, my job you know" as if they're recording us.

anyway, enough venting....I am installing, puffing some herb, and playing...in that order

I just say "not interested" and leave it at that. They are being told to go through the motions, so I understand these guys nagging, but it does nothing but make me want to avoid returning as much as possible.

And I do just that, ordering 99% of games from Amazon. No bullshit, no hassle.

yeah, I usually go through amazon and only go to gamestop when I wait on impressions/reviews, then decide to impulse buy a game.

I get that it's their job, but seriously, when I call and ask for the game, they don't even say "yes" or "no," they get on the computer, give the speech while they're searching, and then either say "oh you got lucky this time" or "nope, see, like I said, you should have preordered blah blah." They're scripted to bring up this point whenever possible, not just in the store, at the register. It's insane! But yeah, it's nothing new, it's just my turn to get pissed about it

bork · « **Reply #241 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:17:02 PM »

They fucking suck. I have called them asking if they have a title in stock, have gone to the store, and then found that they couldn't locate a copy.

Bebpo · « **Reply #242 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:28:09 PM »

And as expected, my brother replies by saying "I don't want this weird porno. I don't even want it sitting on my desk. Get it out of my sight. I'm not going to play it".

$:-\$

Basically what I figured. Just like when I bought him Killer 7 and Okami and Yakuza and he never touched any of them.

I try to broaden his narrow view of gaming and show him that there's smarter things in gaming than God of War or Dead Space or Call of Duty, but he doesn't care.

I'm really bad at selling non-gamers on gaming >_<

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #243 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:31:29 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on July 27, 2011, 04:28:09 PM

And as expected, my brother replies by saying "I don't want this weird porno. I don't even want it sitting on my desk. Get it out of my sight. I'm not going to play it".

$:-\$

Basically what I figured. Just like when I bought him Killer 7 and Okami and Yakuza and he never touched any of them. I try to broaden his narrow view of gaming and show him that there's smarter things in gaming than God of War or Dead Space or Call of Duty, but he doesn't care.

I'm really bad at selling non-gamers on gaming >_<

I wouldn't say he's a non-gamer, but going by the three you listed, he has an aesthetic he likes.

The dudebro aesthetic.

Dude, I think your brother is a dudebro, bro

Get him a copy of Fight Of Honor: Andro at Full Force in Baghdad

Bebpo · « **Reply #244 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:35:25 PM »

noooooooo

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #245 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:36:53 PM »

Give me Catherine instead Bebpo, I'll be more appreciative.

Himu · « **Reply #246 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:38:46 PM »

did you really expect a game with animated cutscenes that are hyper sexually charged and thematic as this to appeal to someone who doesn't have taste like ours, bebpo, which is to say super SUPER niche? please tell me you aren't this naive.

demi · « **Reply #247 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:40:21 PM »

Fuck you Joe, I called it first

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #248 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:40:42 PM »

he needs a copy of 6 Days In Fallujah

Bebpo · « **Reply #249 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:58:38 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 27, 2011, 04:38:46 PM

did you really expect a game with animated cutscenes that are hyper sexually charged and thematic as this to appeal to someone who doesn't have taste like ours, bebpo, which is to say super SUPER niche? please tell me you aren't this naive.

I am very optimistic!

Himu · « **Reply #250 on:** July 27, 2011, 05:02:13 PM »

you're naive. people have tastes.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #251 on:** July 27, 2011, 07:13:08 PM »

This game is awesome. Q-bert Championship Edition!

The story is surprisingly not offensive so far (just beat stage 2.) I like how there's reality, where stuff isn't so odd, and his dreams, where the wacky japaneseness is set loose.

iconoclast · « **Reply #252 on:** July 27, 2011, 08:40:00 PM »

Made it to stage 7 (on Normal), gonna finish it tomorrow. The story and characters are okay so far, but really I feel like those sections go on for too long. I just wanna climb some blocks.

Anyway, this should be a fun game to 1000. Getting all gold prizes on Hard seems like it'll be a nice challenge.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #253 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:21:37 PM »

Game totally reminds me of something Murakami would've come up with.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #254 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:42:05 PM »

ok, now this is a little distinguished mentally-challenged:

Second day:

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Vincent's friends: "Oh, you cheated on your girlfriend hahaha that sucks"

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Third day:

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Vincent's friends: "Congratulations on the child!" and apparently no recollection of him saying he's screwing some girl on the side.

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these people are not convincing adults at all

Either that or Vincent has the dumbest friends ever because they can't see the obvious problem.

Gameplay is top notch though. Sometimes my brain just scrambles trying to come up with a way up! I'm surprised Atlus came up with such good non-turn based JRPG gameplay.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #255 on:** July 28, 2011, 02:15:47 AM »

In stock at Playza now

chronovore · « **Reply #256 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:47:12 AM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 02:29:36 PM

I caved.

Had to drive to no less than 5 gamestops, 2 best buys, and a Target in Chicago to find this. I heard my quota of "OH BRAH YOU GOTTA RESERVE OR ELSE THE GAMES ARE JUST GONE AND YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET THEM" speeches for the year. The one time a game is scarce at release and they pounce on it and act like this is a common occurrence. I usually don't bitch about gamestop but man, I wish I could say ANYTHING to get them to stop their preorder speeches forever. I straight up say "I will not be preordering anything today" in advance and I still get it ("Oh? Are you sure you don't want to preorder? *names every game coming out in the next 6 months*".) Even at the one I frequent, where the guys know me and we chat and stuff, they still say it every time and are like "sorry man I gotta ask this, my job you know" as if they're recording us.

anyway, enough venting....I am installing, puffing some herb, and playing...in that order

That's an easy quota for me to meet, as the number rests at "1." God, I hate that horse crap. If I know I want something, I'll order it on Amazon, and have it delivered to me on the launch day. If I am going to a retail store, I want to see what they have on hand, not pretend that I'm shopping online by pre-ordering stuff.

iconoclast · « **Reply #257 on:** July 28, 2011, 09:48:43 AM »

Well this game was great up until the

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escort mission

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complete with distinguished mentally-challenged fellow AI that causes you to fail every time. UGH

bork · « **Reply #258 on:** July 28, 2011, 10:00:32 AM »

Quote from: iconoclast on July 28, 2011, 09:48:43 AM

Well this game was great up until the
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escort mission
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complete with distinguished mentally-challenged fellow AI that causes you to fail every time. UGH

$:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

iconoclast · « **Reply #259 on:** July 28, 2011, 10:23:00 AM »

It's actually not too bad,

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you can use the Y button makes your partner wait or advance, so if you manage it properly your partner won't get in your way

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Still would've been better if it was just a normal stage.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #260 on:** July 28, 2011, 08:16:10 PM »

oh god escort mission

its shipped too $:-\$

iconoclast · « **Reply #261 on:** July 28, 2011, 09:07:38 PM »

Finished my first playthrough earlier. I didn't care too much for the story for like the first half of the game, but it gets more interesting the further you progress. The ending itself is pretty damn stupid though ("best" end spoilers)

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Vincent: "Katherine, my cheating on you was all an illusion! You see, this girl I told you about turned out to be an imaginary succubus, so it never really happened. If you don't believe me, just ask my friends!" Katherine: "What? Well, okay. Let's get married now."

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The gameplay is great. Don't have much to say about it though, you just push blocks around and the stage layouts get more complex the further in you get. They're fun to complete.

I started up a second playthrough too; it's kinda funny how quickly you can zip through the first few stages after you're used to the techniques you learn through the later stages. Now I just need the gold prizes on stages 4 & 6, and then I guess I'll start up my Hard run.

maxy · « **Reply #262 on:** July 30, 2011, 07:53:22 AM »

Yeah,Bebpo is a weird non-gamer.

magus · « **Reply #263 on:** July 30, 2011, 08:49:20 AM »

i support bebpo and the japawacky team!

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #264 on:** July 30, 2011, 10:41:47 AM »

this is on hold for evo.

if there are 8 stages and I'm on stage 4 and only have about 3 or 4 hours in (maybe)...how is this game 13 hours long? longer stages? i'm on normal mode.

iconoclast · « **Reply #265 on:** July 30, 2011, 11:48:52 AM »

It gets longer toward the end. My first playthrough was around 17 hours, but I left the game idle a lot so I dunno.

Anyway, just beat the first stage of Babel. That shit was really hard - it took me almost an entire day between yesterday and today to beat. The next 3 stages are gonna be rough.

Himu · « **Reply #266 on:** July 31, 2011, 04:36:57 PM »

Jesus Christ I still don't have this from gamefly. They sent it on goddamn Wednesday.

iconoclast · « **Reply #267 on:** July 31, 2011, 04:39:36 PM »

Stage 2 of Babel down.

I feel like stage 1 is kinda unfair and random, but stage 2 is much more about consistently playing smart. Gonna try stage 3 later, hopefully the random mystery blocks don't fuck things up too badly by being random (like they can do in the story).

Really great game though. I don't play action puzzle games like this often, so being challenged with something different is a nice change of pace.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #268 on:** August 02, 2011, 01:50:26 PM »

Started playing this morning.

Can the next SMT/Persona title have a set of characters in their late 20's/early 30's pretty please? This is incredibly refreshing.

Himu · « **Reply #269 on:** August 02, 2011, 02:00:18 PM »

Hear hear.

This game feels like Persona team made a baby with Intelligent Qube. It is absolutely amazing. I'm getting the same addiction to it that I had to Persona 3 when it came out due to the set up: night and day, ya know? In Persona 3 I was always like "one more day!" and then I'd look up at my calendar and I had already played a week of in game. The same thing happens in Catherine, I'll tell myself, one more day, I gotta get to the top and then my clock shows 2 am.

I'm playing on easy, mostly for the story, and this mode can tease my brain. I can't wait to play on normal after this.

But ultimately, it feels like Persona/SMT realized into a puzzle game. It contains every single thing I love about those games: unique settings, strong characters with different philosophical views, with an alignment system that doesn't feel "good/bad" but more personal and subjective than that. It is relentlessly stylish, with a wonderful ode to the famous poets and philosophers through time, with its own uniquely created mythology, and let's not forget the game difficulty and the way those games tend to make players ocd. I haven't been buying items from the salesman just because I don't want to lower my chances of getting gold.

I think we're in for a treat, whatever Megami Tensei Atlus decides to make for current gen consoles, whether it's Shin Megami Tensei or Persona. Because this game is the shit.

By the way I have been stuck on stage 4 of Rapunzel for the longest. HELP.

demi · « **Reply #270 on:** August 02, 2011, 03:27:47 PM »

See guys, it's not so bad to want an adult Persona. P3 and 4 are poop.

iconoclast · « **Reply #271 on:** August 02, 2011, 03:38:15 PM »

P3 and P4 have a better story though, so I guess adult characters are inferior after all.

Anyway, Babel is shit. Stage 3 and presumably 4 are about 65% luck thanks to all the randomness. Maybe RPG developers should stick to RPGs.

demi · « **Reply #272 on:** August 02, 2011, 03:49:15 PM »

This isn't an RPG though, dweeb. Worry about your story elsewhere.

Himu · « **Reply #273 on:** August 02, 2011, 03:55:09 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on August 02, 2011, 03:38:15 PM

P3 and P4 have a better story though, so I guess adult characters are inferior after all.

I haven't beaten it yet but I'm going to have to disagree. If you're over the age of 21 you should probably know why, as well.

iconoclast · « **Reply #274 on:** August 02, 2011, 04:00:34 PM »

Quote from: demi on August 02, 2011, 03:49:15 PM

This isn't an RPG though, dweeb. Worry about your story elsewhere.

I don't give a shit about RPGs or stories.

demi · « **Reply #275 on:** August 02, 2011, 04:18:26 PM »

Well then why do you like Persona? It certainly isnt the rock paper scissors gameplay.

iconoclast · « **Reply #276 on:** August 02, 2011, 04:26:13 PM »

I played Persona when I was more into RPGs. If I started it now, I probably wouldn't make it past the intro (like when I started Persona 2 a few months ago, I got bored after 4-5 hours and quit playing). But I don't hate RPGs or anything... I just think of them more as filler now.

FatalT · « **Reply #277 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:26:19 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on August 02, 2011, 03:38:15 PM

P3 and P4 have a better story though, so I guess adult characters are inferior after all.

Quote from: iconoclast on August 02, 2011, 04:00:34 PM

I don't give a shit about RPGs or stories.

Huh?

iconoclast · « **Reply #278 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:37:27 PM »

I played all of them and thought Catherine had the weakest story, by far.

Nier has a better story than all three games combined.

Himu · « **Reply #279 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:47:13 PM »

what i've played of nier is boring.

Catherine has the most refreshing cast, plot, subject matter and overall story in a japanese game in forever. Probably since Killer 7.

don't care bout no ugly dude with gray hair who wants to save his daughter zzz. With a talking book. And a tsundere. zzz.

magus · « **Reply #280 on:** August 02, 2011, 06:37:31 PM »

himu,you can't truly understand the badness of nier without knowing of the "plot twist" if you don't care about it,i suggest you to read... you ready?

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the monster you are fighting are real human,while you are a fake human,their gibberish is all stuff like "no please don't kill me!" the boss you fight over the course of the game seems to attack you for random monsterish reasons but after you learn of the plot twist,it turns out everyone of them had some bullshit reason to attack you,usualy some overdramatic reason,this include fucking enviromentalist wolves! oh and did i mention that the game seems to forget that before this bullshit twist happen it throw at you a fucking giant spider thing???

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #281 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:02:23 PM »

Nier was pretty epic. For a game.

Himu · « **Reply #282 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:08:48 PM »

when does nier get good?

Himu · « **Reply #283 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:11:15 PM »

http://www.shacknews.com/article/69546/catherine-has-atlus-largest-launch-ever

FatalT · « **Reply #284 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:19:46 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on August 02, 2011, 07:08:48 PM

when does nier get good?

HERP DERP ON THE SECOND PLAYTHROUGH. You just don't understaaaaaaaand maaaaaaaaaaan. It's like, totally deep and like, awesome. BUT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THROUGH IT TWICE!

Fuck that boring ass game.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #285 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:20:27 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on August 02, 2011, 07:08:48 PM

when does nier get good?

Pretty close to beating it the first time, actually. I loved it, but if you're not interested I don't see any reason to stick with it.

iconoclast · « **Reply #286 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:35:12 PM »

Nier is good through the entire first playthrough, though it's nothing particularly special. It's just a standard RPG story. The second playthrough is basically the other half of the story, and the third playthrough adds more character to Kaine and her shadow IIRC. The fourth playthrough is for the true ending.

I would say it's the only game this gen that's worth playing for the story alone. The god-tier soundtrack is just a bonus.

edit: actually, Bioshock 1 was good too (except for the ending). almost forgot about that.

Akala · « **Reply #287 on:** August 02, 2011, 09:15:56 PM »

Picked up Catherine. Seems awesome.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #288 on:** August 02, 2011, 09:54:02 PM »

Playing through on normal difficulty and dying a lot. Learning from my mistakes, not frustrated.

iconoclast · « **Reply #289 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:08:07 PM »

I didn't get frustrated during the story, but I get really annoyed when I die to random shit that's out of my control, like the last 25% of Obelisk. Even the random stuff in the story is avoidable since the pattern for each stage is set, so you can adjust your route to avoid those areas. Still fun though. At least Axis Mundi seems a lot better.

and why did everyone's avatar get stretched. long pig is long

pilonv1 · « **Reply #290 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:59:43 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on August 02, 2011, 07:19:46 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on August 02, 2011, 07:08:48 PM
when does nier get good?

HERP DERP ON THE SECOND PLAYTHROUGH. You just don't understaaaaaaaand maaaaaaaaaaan. It's like, totally deep and like, awesome. BUT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THROUGH IT TWICE!

Fuck that boring ass game.

Glad I wasn't the only one who got bored with it. I can see people loving it but ffs it's slow as hell.

At least Catherine will show up soon

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #291 on:** August 03, 2011, 05:12:14 AM »

Catherine being Atlus' most successful launch has me thinking that when they do release Persona 5 in the States, they should just rebrand that shit. All the fans will know it's Persona 5, but if gamers are willing to give Catherine a go they might be willing to give Persona 5 a go if it is released under a different title. I think people are less likely to just pick up Persona 5 on a whim, even if the story has nothing to do with the previous series entries.

It would infuriate the fanboyz though.

Himu · « **Reply #292 on:** August 03, 2011, 09:37:39 AM »

just like how everyone was intimidated by final fantasy 7 despite never having heard of final fantasy, making ff7 a huge bomb.

That said, Persona: Untitled Subtitle would be solid and then bring back the numbers for Persona 6.

Bebpo · « **Reply #293 on:** August 03, 2011, 04:06:09 PM »

Quote from: ch1nchilla on August 03, 2011, 05:12:14 AM

Catherine being Atlus' most successful launch has me thinking that when they do release Persona 5 in the States, they should just rebrand that shit. All the fans will know it's Persona 5, but if gamers are willing to give Catherine a go they might be willing to give Persona 5 a go if it is released under a different title. I think people are less likely to just pick up Persona 5 on a whim, even if the story has nothing to do with the previous series entries.

It would infuriate the fanboyz though.

And here I thought you meant by rebranding, taking the SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI part of the title out since it doesn't belong there

Himu · « **Reply #294 on:** August 03, 2011, 04:11:39 PM »

but SMT IS their brand over here.

Bebpo · « **Reply #295 on:** August 03, 2011, 04:44:34 PM »

But Persona is well known enough that it doesn't need SMT label in the US anymore and technically it's not supposed to be there since it's not SMT!

Himu · « **Reply #296 on:** August 03, 2011, 05:25:56 PM »

In the US they brand it as SMT and will always brand it as SMT.

Himu · « **Reply #297 on:** August 03, 2011, 06:09:29 PM »

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How the fuck do I save the dudes that come to the bar? I talk to them and they still die.

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pilonv1 · « **Reply #298 on:** August 03, 2011, 07:27:16 PM »

Catherine was a success because it was put on a platform where people actually buy games.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #299 on:** August 03, 2011, 08:31:22 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on August 03, 2011, 07:27:16 PM

Catherine was a success because it was put on a platform where people actually buy games.

That and the HAY GUYZ SEXXXXX marketing.

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Author Topic: Catherine (X360/PS3) - July 26 (Read 25612 times)