The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread

[Atramental]

The day I tongue punch a woman's fartbox shall be the day I stop eating food from taco bell.

And I don't want to give up the privilege of eating at taco bell.

[parallax]

The day I tongue punch a woman's fartbox shall be the day I stop eating food from taco bell.

And I don't want to give up the privilege of eating at taco bell.

If you're eating at taco bell, you're eating shit anyway. At least the starfish has a chance of being cleaner.

[Shuri]

Dunno if its really important or interesting but I saw this today:

"Manos: the hans of fete" semi outed himself as a viral marketer in his one of his own thread. He made a strangely over positive thread about The Punisher Warzone flick until the thread was bumped and then, months later,  revealed that he worked on the website for the bluray release and that he managed to get on set to interview the actors of the movie.

Thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472277

Postwhere he mentions his job related to the movie, months after the creation of the thread..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39926487&postcount=131

[blame space]

hey stealthfan what's up bro

[blame space]

i'm here. let's talk this out.

[Phoenix Dark]

I was able to justify eating pussy mentally and lived to tell my story. It took awhile but I did it, despite the blatant aesthetic problems with the vagina in general. But I squashed the beef and made peace with it. I can't cosign ass munching, I just can't. I love the ass but it's like bacon: I can look at it, even smell it, but I don't eat it

[Himu]

You a muslim, PD?

[Phoenix Dark]

Nah I just don't eat bacon. I used to just eat it if it was on something else, like a cheeseburger. But now...meh. I figure cutting pork out my diet (outside of the occasional pork chops of course) isn't gonna kill me.

[Momo]

Cutting out bacon, do you hate yourself

My personal belief system means that I shouldn't have a problem with that on principle. But even though I don't believe anything comes out of there, I'm still oddly unnerved by the idea of putting my tongue in that area.

Also ask yourself this, if you become a regular ass muncher, whats next for you? Assmunching surely becomes mundane for you and the next step would be vomiting on your dick or taking a dump right in your mouth or some shit.

[Chinner]

i too am a fan of the female physique, but i have no interest in licking the anus.

[Trent Dole]

Don't fight it just rim the corn guys 

[Joe Molotov]

You wouldn't lick a Van Gogh.

[Phoenix Dark]

You wouldn't lick a Van Gogh.

[Himu]

You wouldn't lick a Van Gogh.

[Phoenix Dark]

[Verdigris Murder]

Woke up this mornin'
Woah, I got them felchin' blues

[tiesto]

I don't care if it's bleached and seasoned with the finest spices, I don't eat ass

If that makes me a prude or whatever so bed it.

A good friend of mine swears by eating twohole, but I've never done it nor do I have any inclination to...

[thisismyusername]

Can I just say: I hate MidnightScott, because I really truly do hate MidnightScott.

[Shaka Khan]

What did he do?

[thisismyusername]

What did he do?

Oh, baby: Nothing. It's just he screams "ATTENTION WHORE" to me.

He's nearly as bad as that dude that has the Yosuke pageant avatar in that thread. But the Yosuke avatar dude has an excuse of being 19 so him being hyper-active is sort-of reasonable for that age. Scott gets advice and doesn't take it and then posts some really out there stuff.

[Shaka Khan]

LAWD, that Aiko character is just...



I wanted to invite everyone to read the crazy things she posted in the gay thread, but then it came to my attention that...

Other reasons.

Main one being I was once beaten up and it turned out the kid had a knife on him...

So yeah, constant bullying because I'm transgendered, pansexual, polyamorous, AND have a bladder problem that requires me to wear diapers. And add to the fact that I have depression and they mock me for that...

So yeah, I'm gonna try and see if my mom and stepdad can get custody of me, I think I should be safe from those bullies.

So now I feel bad for her. But at the same time I so, so hope he turns out to be a joke character, because her posting style and the content of her posts are too much, even by GAF's standards.

[Broseidon]

At least she doesn't completely spam the threads anymore.

I actually counted and she made like 50 posts in the space of a handful of pages within the first post she made.
Did the same thing in TransGAF but to a (slightly) lesser extent 

[Shaka Khan]

Thanks for the heads up, Broseidon

I still struggle to process their struggles.

[Broseidon]

I cannot structure a sentence properly.

[Broseidon]

Wait, does Aiko have a penis, or not?

16 so I'm guessing "yes".

[Shaka Khan]

At least she doesn't completely spam the threads anymore.

I actually counted and she made like 50 posts in the space of a handful of pages within the first post she made.
Did the same thing in TransGAF but to a (slightly) lesser extent 

Mumei had to sit her down and warn her about it. It's not so much the frequency of posts as much as the content...

Also, can any of you guys find any rudeness in something that just happened to me?

To explain what happened, my boyfriend likes to nickname people, and he nicknamed me Rommel. Now, I have no problem with this, but right now, I'm kind of annoyed, so I asked him if he would mind just calling me Aiko.

And now another user in the chat starts saying I'm being rude and I shouldn't be telling him what to do.

So, can someone explain to me how "Hey, I'm in a bit of a bad mood, so do you mind not using my nickname?" is rude?

Half of the posts are like that. Simply things that shouldn't go on *any* forum for how inane, trivial, and personal they are. I don't understand why she feels reporting things of this nature.

Granted, I don't understand why people report half the things they post in that thread, but she's on a different level.

[Momo]

So now I feel bad for her. But I so, so hope he turns out to be a joke character, because her posting style and the content of his posts are too much, even by GAF's standards.

Interesting that you associate feeling sorry for her as a female thing, but then refer to her as a him if she is talking shit. tbh i usually associate shit behavior with males over females as well.

[Shaka Khan]

Interesting that you associate feeling sorry for her as a female thing, but then refer to her as a him if she is talking shit. tbh i usually associate shit behavior with males over females as well.

All the pronouns were switched in a later edit, hence the...

Thanks for the heads up, Broseidon

I still struggle to process their struggles.

I just missed one.

Your deep post now seems embarrassing, doesn't it?

 To quote one of my favorite philosophers: "Don't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously."

[Broseidon]

 

[StealthFan]

i'm here. let's talk this out.

Nothing to discuss. You're a shit poster.

[Broseidon]

Wait, does Aiko have a penis, or not?

16 so I'm guessing "yes".

I'm not actually familiar with his posts. I'll have to be on the lookout. That diaper thing sounds like a shitty situation though.

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[Momo]

I just missed one.

Your deep post now seems embarrassing, doesn't it?

 To quote one of my favorite philosophers: "Don't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously."

Not even close to being a deep post, just an observation of something I know to be true of myself

[CajoleJuice]

I just missed one.

Your deep post now seems embarrassing, doesn't it?

 To quote one of my favorite philosophers: "Don't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously."

 

[Brehvolution]

i'm here. let's talk this out.

Nothing to discuss. You're a shit poster.

We have much worse than BS. He ain't bad at all.

[blame space]

hey stealthfan eat shit no one likes you

[Momo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39968147&postcount=15

glad to see people call out this crap post

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39967594

I find it scary I agree with Manos ITT.

[Broseidon]

Fools seldom differ.

[Verdigris Murder]

hey stealthfan eat shit no one likes you

Get him

[Steve Youngblood]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39968147&postcount=15

glad to see people call out this crap post

Eh, I largely agree with him.

[Momo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39968147&postcount=15

glad to see people call out this crap post

Eh, I largely agree with him.

Look at the article he is replying to, read the rebuffs to his post. He's making some sweeping overgeneralized point thats dumb enough by itself, but hold on! it's irrelevant to question the topic poses. Ignoring the context of the conversation and jumping straight into a crusade is shit posting.

[Steve Youngblood]

Look at the article he is replying to, read the rebuffs to his post. He's making some sweeping overgeneralized point thats dumb enough by itself, but hold on! it's irrelevant to question the topic poses. Ignoring the context of the conversation and jumping straight into a crusade is shit posting.

I read the article and skimmed the thread. I stand by my previous post in that I largely agree with his sentiment. Personally, I think the article was poorly written and missed the point of what people were ultimately complaining about. Further, it takes responsibility off of the content-creators who -- if political correctness was running amok and getting in the away of them releasing a piece of creative content they were proud of -- had every right not to bend to the whims of the supposed angry mob.

Maybe he seemed a little overzealous in calling out attacks on political correctness, but I think his point stands.

[Momo]

Should someone being offended by something actually matter? Moreover, should we let it affect how we approach our art, our creativity and the outlets by which we experience the unlikely, the outrageous and the utterly fictional?

In short, should we let the fact that “everything offends someone” alter the landscape of gaming, trashing ideas in the process because it upsets someone?

The core questions here. I don't need to point out the article is asking should content creators listen to said angry mob, not some bullshit tirade about a term that exists in the breath of the English language.

That's not what it said. It was asking if creators should take those complaints into consideration. Which sometimes they should, and sometimes they shouldn't. Depends on the specifics. There was never a question of whether people are allowed to be offended or object to something in a game.

This is pretty much what I'd post if I wasnt banned. 

[Steve Youngblood]

Should someone being offended by something actually matter? Moreover, should we let it affect how we approach our art, our creativity and the outlets by which we experience the unlikely, the outrageous and the utterly fictional?

In short, should we let the fact that “everything offends someone” alter the landscape of gaming, trashing ideas in the process because it upsets someone?

The core questions here. I don't need to point out the article is asking should content creators listen to said angry mob, not some bullshit tirade about a term that exists in the breath of the English language.

The issue, though is that he undermines that point by placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of those expressing offense or disagreement with the content. There's this mentality of "It's OK to be offended, but keep it to yourself and voice your discontent simply by not buying the product." When you're argument is ultimately about free speech advocacy, that rings hollow.

We’ve already let political correctness like this destroy gaming projects. In 2008, a game – Six Days in Fallujah – became so toxic to its publisher that the game never came out even though it was essentially finished.

Here, the blame is placed on the people who took offense to the project with the message essentially being "if these people didn't like the idea of the game, they're free not to buy it." And while that's ultimately true, why are they also not encouraged to express their opinion on the project. Konami didn't have to cancel it. If they believed it was a worthwhile creative endeavor, it was their responsibility to stand behind their product.

Instead, the moral of the story seems to be that overly sensitive whiners deprived us of a product that, for better or worse, would have pushed the envelope.

[Momo]

We're not even discussing the same thing right now. You're arguing some free speech/finger pointing angle I cant care less about.

To be clear what axioms I am working from :
- Criticism will always exist. Criticism is freely and openly expressed
- Video gaming is primarily a money making business and secondarily a creative outlet (this rule has exceptions, IREM and Disaster Report being an example) 
- You have an internal, personal view on this and how it affects you and not just addressing this or trying to do so generally from an objective/impersonal view.

Now, how much criticism should be taken in, in your opinion? (which is what im interested in, your opinion surrounding the questions posed)
Should all requests be taken in and discussed?
Should criticisms that fundamentally change your game be ignored?
Should concessions be made to the point where a game will create as little controversy as possible to avoid bad press and by extension increase it's perceived sales potential?
If you were the person expressing displeasure how would you like to be treated?

What is your opinion? What do you want? What are your thoughts on this? I'm not interested in faux, regurgitated, pretentious arguments about terms and perceived or real slights, I'm interested in you and your thoughts as a fellow human being, because that's makes conversation interesting to me. Now I understand if you are not interested enough in this to answer from a personal point of view, if thats the case just tell me and I'll go bother Himu to tell me some stories about his youth 

[Steve Youngblood]

We're not even discussing the same thing right now. You're arguing some free speech/finger pointing angle I cant care less about.

To be clear what axioms I am working from :
- Criticism will always exist. Criticism is freely and openly expressed
- Video gaming is primarily a money making business and secondarily a creative outlet (this rule has exceptions, IREM and Disaster Report being an example) 
- You have an internal, personal view on this and how it affects you and not just addressing this or trying to do so generally from an objective/impersonal view.

Now, how much criticism should be taken in, in your opinion? (which is what im interested in, your opinion surrounding the questions posed)
Should all requests be taken in and discussed?
Should criticisms that fundamentally change your game be ignored?
Should concessions be made to the point where a game will create as little controversy as possible to avoid bad press and by extension increase it's perceived sales potential?
If you were the person expressing displeasure how would you like to be treated?

What is your opinion? What do you want? What are your thoughts on this? I'm not interested infaux, regurgitated, pretentious arguments about terms and perceived or real slights, I'm interested in you and your thoughts as a fellow human being, because that's makes conversation interesting to me. Now I understand if you are not interested enough in this to answer from a personal point of view, if thats the case just tell me and I'll go bother Himu to tell me some stories about his youth 

In my view, it's all pretty simple. Whatever your opinion about a game and its content, you're free to express it. If it's glowing praise, then groovy. If it's vehement condemnation, then that too is fine.

Developers and publishers are then free to do what they want with this feedback. Just because someone says "I find that rape scene in Tomb Raider to be offensive," that doesn't mean that Square Enix is required to pull it. If they believe in the creative vision, then they should stand behind it. If they're too worried about potential profits to stand behind their creators, then that's their problem.

What I don't like about the article is not that it thinks that there's room in the market for that scene, or Six Days in Fallujah. I don't think that criticism of these works means that they don't have a right to exist. However, I ultimately feel that Moriarty missed the point of what conclusions to draw by seemingly surmising that the problem comes from a populace who bullies publishers into creatively safe avenues when, in reality, it's their own faults as the gatekeepers of this content.

He seeks to put an end to censoring free speech by seemingly encouraging that people censor themselves by not getting carried away with political correctness. This -- in my book -- is a disingenuous.

I hope that answers your question, dear friend. Regardless, we should probably abandon this back-and-forth. It feels out of place on this board. With this third long-winded, stupid post, I'm pretty much just awaiting much deserved pejoratives launched my way.

[blame space]

i'm so glad i never think about the shit that i like

[Momo]

We very much agree then, my standpoint is very much in line with yours. (Both on your personal standpoint and the assessment of the article, it misses the point entirely and DOES put blame where it does not belong, by way of slights, tone and use of language. I was never interested in that though, the article brought up points I felt like discussing and relating to others with, an expectation you have surpassed

I'm 100% sure we will be derided for making long posts, but that is also a reason I love the bore, people discuss things from a personal standpoint and poke fun to increase their personal allotment of fun/entertainment. Genuine people

And, yes, let us now move on to a subject of mocking or whatever else will bring us some entertainment

[Steve Youngblood]

You're the best, Momo.

[Broseidon]

[Steve Youngblood]

Hey, I can post pictures too:



Behold the glory that is that not-at-all-lame-Microsoft-Paint image and enjoy the burn. Do you get it? The article that Spidey is reading is all about how much you suck. It might take a moment for the cleverness to sink in.

[Broseidon]

 

[Verdigris Murder]

Luls.

I didn't realise that Steve Youngblood is the same Steve Youngblood on neogaf.

[Steve Youngblood]

Luls.

I didn't realise that Steve Youngblood is the same Steve Youngblood on neogaf.

I work very hard to keep my forum identities separate. I'm surprised you saw through my clever ruse.

[brob]

I thought you were Steve winwood on gaf for the longest time.

[Brehvolution]

Sure, but I'm not going to because no one cares. Everyone has their own opinions.

[Shaka Khan]

Steve Winewood

Steve Youngblood

[Steve Youngblood]

SteveWinwood... I know I've seen that name a number of times, but I can't really say that I've got a good idea in my mind of that poster's style. As such, I don't know whether Brobzoid was complementing or insulting me. I'll just assume the latter for now.

[Shaka Khan]

From my short exposure he's not too offensive, but can be a bit annoying. Then again he's probably a kid, so he gets a pass.

[Verdigris Murder]

You can't play a player Steve Youngblood, you have the same avatar !