The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread

[parallax]

Man, don't bother with trans-related stuff on a community as immature as gaf. Just don't bother. Take it to Trueselves or r/transgender or some shit. That said, a lot of them trans girls at gaf have tucked their penises a little up their booty holes a bit too much.

careful himu. you dont want to be called transphobic, do you?

[Lan]

shhh Devo might hear you Himmy.

[Shadow Mod]

shhh Devo might hear you Himmy.

oh noes

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Man, don't bother with trans-related stuff on a community as immature as gaf. Just don't bother. Take it to Trueselves or r/transgender or some shit. That said, a lot of them trans girls at gaf have tucked their penises a little up their booty holes a bit too much.

careful himu. you dont want to be called transphobic, do you?

Yeah, I'm just starting to get over* the severe traumatic incident known as Himuro's uber-misogynistic, kyriarchal, rant against poor, defenseless Koshiba.

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* - not really

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[Lan]

eeeepppp Devo gonna get ya.   

but seriously, I remember you saying you wouldn't date a transmale. So I don't get the issue here.

[Himu]

Oscar what did TotA 3DS sell in US? Did it even chart?

Just wondering what the state of JRPGs is on 3DS, (likely bad, but I want to know relative to other systems.)

it did about half of what installments in the series usually do.  devil survivor overclocked did about half of what the ds version did.  the state of jrpgs on the 3ds is about the same as the state of jrpgs on any system in the USA right now - pretty bad.  but i'd wait and see what an actual new jrpg does on the thing rather than immediately judge by two oldish ports. 

my prediction?  pretty bad.  whatever attracted americans to jrpgs in the first place, it's gone now.  the hardcore fans can float the smaller stuff from atlus and xseed, but i don't have much hope for the genre long term in north america.

I think there are more FF fans than ever interested in other jrpg series due to the series' incompetence and for America at least, that's a solid 1 million worth of sales. I think it's dependent on the right push, but I agree jrpgs are very niche and it's not going to get (much) better.

[Shadow Mod]

eeeepppp Devo gonna get ya.   

but seriously, I remember you saying you wouldn't date a transmale. So I don't get the issue here.

I specifically mentioned how trans men aren't really physically adequate. Trans women though, if we arguing under the assumption that they're physically attractive I don't see the hang up about their previous life, if it's that big of a deal inquire about who they used to be.

/shrug

[Lan]

eeeepppp Devo gonna get ya.   

but seriously, I remember you saying you wouldn't date a transmale. So I don't get the issue here.

I specifically mentioned how trans men aren't really physically adequate. Trans women though, if we arguing under the assumption that they're physically attractive I don't see the hang up about their previous life, if it's that big of a deal inquire about who they used to be.

/shrug

I keep hearing how tranmale genitalia isn't realistic enough. But are transwomen's genitalia that close to a person born as a woman? I honestly Don't know the answer to that. because from what I hear it doesn't get wet. Is that really true? If that is the case then I'm sure there are other things it doesn't do as well.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I think I'm the only person who liked Legend of Dragoon

[parallax]

Insecurity, same as any minority thats heard a girl say some shit like "I would NEEEVER fuck a (insert race here) guy"

those are the ones that will usually flip and go down on a (insert race here) guy.

is it me, or are those trans threads sandtraps? why do people try to post shit they think is funny in them?

[Shadow Mod]

eeeepppp Devo gonna get ya.   

but seriously, I remember you saying you wouldn't date a transmale. So I don't get the issue here.

I specifically mentioned how trans men aren't really physically adequate. Trans women though, if we arguing under the assumption that they're physically attractive I don't see the hang up about their previous life, if it's that big of a deal inquire about who they used to be.

/shrug

I keep hearing how tranmale genitalia isn't realistic enough. But are transwomen's genitalia that close to a person born as a woman? I honestly Don't know the answer to that. From what I hear it doesn't get wet? If that is the case then I'm sure there are other things it doesn't do as well.

From what I've been told some are self-lubricating and some aren't. But this isn't a trans woman issue. There are cis women with this problem. Lube is necessary for them too.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Insecurity, same as any minority thats heard a girl say some shit like "I would NEEEVER fuck a (insert race here) guy"

those are the ones that will usually flip and go down on a (insert race here) guy.

is it me, or are those trans threads sandtraps? why do people try to post shit they think is funny in them?

Because some people feel that they absolutely NEED to have their opinions known on a certain matter.  It is pretty obvious that certain subject matters are traps and if you've been around GAF and get caught in one, I can't feel sorry for you.

It's like the dudes who like to post in Girl GAF.  I never understood it and never will.

[Himu]

Oscar what did TotA 3DS sell in US? Did it even chart?

Just wondering what the state of JRPGs is on 3DS, (likely bad, but I want to know relative to other systems.)

it did about half of what installments in the series usually do.  devil survivor overclocked did about half of what the ds version did.  the state of jrpgs on the 3ds is about the same as the state of jrpgs on any system in the USA right now - pretty bad.  but i'd wait and see what an actual new jrpg does on the thing rather than immediately judge by two oldish ports. 

my prediction?  pretty bad.  whatever attracted americans to jrpgs in the first place, it's gone now.  the hardcore fans can float the smaller stuff from atlus and xseed, but i don't have much hope for the genre long term in north america.

Who all bought Persona 3/4?

[Lan]

can someone explain why they are so mad if a man feels like they wouldn't want to date them or have sex with them because of their sex at birth?

I'm sure not everyone feels that way. Why be mad about what someone(who they will never meet) perfers? As long as they aren't saying their not women, I don't see the harm.

I wouldn't date anyone with fucked up teeth but I might date someone with 11 toes. Its weird how attraction works lol.

Insecurity, same as any minority thats heard a girl say some shit like "I would NEEEVER fuck a (insert race here) guy"

When I hear that..... I honestly don't feel any insecurity because the people who end up voicing the above are unattractive to even their own racial group.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yeah there was a really pretty black girl who told me she didn't date white dudes.

Dat feel

[Lan]

Insecurity, same as any minority thats heard a girl say some shit like "I would NEEEVER fuck a (insert race here) guy"

those are the ones that will usually flip and go down on a (insert race here) guy.

is it me, or are those trans threads sandtraps? why do people try to post shit they think is funny in them?

Because some people feel that they absolutely NEED to have their opinions known on a certain matter.  It is pretty obvious that certain subject matters are traps and if you've been around GAF and get caught in one, I can't feel sorry for you.

It's like the dudes who like to post in Girl GAF.  I never understood it and never will.

The thread asked for everyone's personal preference. "Would you date a transgender?" I wouldn't be shocked if it was a ban trap.

[parallax]

Because some people feel that they absolutely NEED to have their opinions known on a certain matter.  It is pretty obvious that certain subject matters are traps and if you've been around GAF and get caught in one, I can't feel sorry for you.

It's like the dudes who like to post in Girl GAF.  I never understood it and never will.

i dont get that either.  what exactly is the point except to come off as a creeper?

The thread asked for everyone's personal preference. "Would you date a transgender?" I wouldn't be shocked if it was a ban trap.

its a bait thread just like the last one was. saying no makes you a bigot.

[Lan]

eeeepppp Devo gonna get ya.   

but seriously, I remember you saying you wouldn't date a transmale. So I don't get the issue here.

I specifically mentioned how trans men aren't really physically adequate. Trans women though, if we arguing under the assumption that they're physically attractive I don't see the hang up about their previous life, if it's that big of a deal inquire about who they used to be.

/shrug

I keep hearing how tranmale genitalia isn't realistic enough. But are transwomen's genitalia that close to a person born as a woman? I honestly Don't know the answer to that. From what I hear it doesn't get wet? If that is the case then I'm sure there are other things it doesn't do as well.

From what I've been told some are self-lubricating and some aren't. But this isn't a trans woman issue. There are cis women with this problem. Lube is necessary for them too.

Getting wet isn't the only thing it does. Its not like its just a hole cut into their pelvic area. I hate to go into great detail but it moves and reacts to stimulation and I'm not only talking about the clit.

[StealthFan]

There was something inherently...playable about Legend Of Dragoon. The dialogue is awful and the music is abysmal but the gameplay was fun to me and I enjoyed exploring the gorgeous pre-rendered environments.

[Himu]

Legend of Dragoon is underrated. Has great combat.

[Phoenix Dark]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

[parallax]

There was something inherently...playable about Legend Of Dragoon. The dialogue is awful and the music is abysmal but the gameplay was fun to me and I enjoyed exploring the gorgeous pre-rendered environments.

its the timed hit system. that kept me interested past the story

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

you need to let that shit go pd.

[Lan]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

gotta agree with you on everything.

[Himu]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

It's not offensive, or at least it shouldn't be. Most people will be understanding. It's just that it's another bite from a shit sandwich a trans person has to swallow which is why a lot of them are sensitive to it.

[Shadow Mod]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

Just don't give bullshit reasons and establish early on what you want in a relationship is my deal. Want kids? Be upfront about it to all potential long term partners.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Kids   When's that male birth control pill coming out?

[Shadow Mod]

Kids   When's that male birth control pill coming out?

Fuck they really need to make that. Then the onus isn't just on me to take that shit daily.

[Phoenix Dark]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

Just don't give bullshit reasons and establish early on what you want in a relationship is my deal. Want kids? Be upfront about it to all potential long term partners.

Since when is not wanting to date someone who was born a man a "bullshit reason?" Especially for a straight man? Sorry Devo but that's nonsense

[Shadow Mod]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

Just don't give bullshit reasons and establish early on what you want in a relationship is my deal. Want kids? Be upfront about it to all potential long term partners.

Since when is not wanting to date someone who was born a man a "bullshit reason?" Especially for a straight man? Sorry Devo but that's nonsense

I said kids was a bullshit reason.

[Himu]

PD link to these people who are offended that straight men won't date them? I've never heard ANYONE react that way? Maybe you are confusing anger, sadness, and loneliness with being offended ? Link me and I will tell you.

[Shadow Mod]

PD link to these people who are offended that straight men won't date them? I've never heard ANYONE react that way? Maybe you are confusing anger, sadness, and loneliness with being offended ? Link me and I will tell you.

It's less offensiveness and just trying to get to the core of why previously being a male matters that much. Like what it means to someone.

[Lan]

Meh. How hard is it to understand a straight dude probably would not want to date someone who used to be a man? I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is offensive. I am not obligated to find anyone attractive. To be perfectly honest, this reminds me of the attitude SOME (not all) black women have about black men dating outside the race, and how they should give black women a shot first since they're struggling or whatever. I am not obligated to save black women, and I'm sure as hell not obligated to date a trans woman "because there's no difference." There are more than a few differences, get over it

Just don't give bullshit reasons and establish early on what you want in a relationship is my deal. Want kids? Be upfront about it to all potential long term partners.

PD is saying that there is more different than the "no kids" issue that is being thrown around on Gaf.

To him, the experience with a transgender just isn't the same as being with a woman who is born female.

But the good thing about it is that there are men who do not care about that and will date a transwoman. So transwomen should be upfront about their birth sex so that they can find someone who truly loves them for who they are, 100%. Its a healthy situation to never fear that the truth will come out about their birth sex and it ever causing them to lose their SO.

Its common sense.

Listen, Its just like if someone has herpies because of rape or being cheated on. I would like to know that fact before I engage in sexual relations with that person. Its not to punish them for contracting it. Its for my safely and feeling comfortable around that person. Being lied to or having information held from me is a big deal breaker for me.

[Himu]

The reason  a lot of trans women who are straight are touchy about this is because not only do a lot of men not want them, many will harm, ridicule, and even hurt them because they find out their origins. This issue goes beyond what PD is talking about, hence my request for a link.

Google transgender and murder.

Try to connect the dots why guys would murder a trans woman.

Then shut the fuck up.

[Lan]

The reason  a lot of trans women who are straight are touchy about this is because not only do a lot of men not want them, many will harm, ridicule, and even hurt them because they find out their origins. This issue goes beyond what PD is talking about, hence my request for a link.

Google transgender and murder.

Try to connect the dots why guys would murder a trans woman.

Who said anything about murdering trans women? I'm confused now lol.

Link to the thread, its long and cray.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491891

[Himu]

Thanks for links! Not all people read gaf!

[Joe Molotov]

Kids   When's that male birth control pill coming out?

Fuck they really need to make that. Then the onus isn't just on me to take that shit daily.

haha, "onus"

[Shadow Mod]

Kids   When's that male birth control pill coming out?

Fuck they really need to make that. Then the onus isn't just on me to take that shit daily.

haha, "onus"

Good thing it's not a suppository.

[Lan]

Thanks for links! Not all people read gaf!

I'm not hand feeding you 

or spoon lol

[Himu]

Haha. First observation. This guy "watched" a documentary about "ladyboys" in Thailand. I bet he found it on xhamster.

[Himu]

God I'm too lazy for this shit. Link to posts that are supposedly "offended" so every one in the thread can get the context you're talking about.

[Lan]

God I'm too lazy for this shit. Link to posts that are supposedly "offended" so every one in the thread can get the context you're talking about.

Urg, PD... do your own backing up of stuff lol sigh..

I found this, I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for. PD is being a lazy turd

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42264776&postcount=290

[Himu]

God I'm too lazy for this shit. Link to posts that are supposedly "offended" so every one in the thread can get the context you're talking about.

Urg, PD... do your own backing up of stuff lol sigh..

I found this, I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for. PD is being a lazy turd

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42264776&postcount=290

That post is pretty accurate. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. You're trying to be yourself, and you're continuously rejected for it with the knowledge that you will never be a real born male/female and it eats you up inside. To make matters worse, many guys will reject you if you tell them, maybe even harm you, but if you hide that fact, you're on the wrong. Lexi isn't offended that people don't want her - because people clearly do if what she says in the thread is accurate, she is merely frustrated because of all of above. Thankfully, most trans girls seem to be bi. 

If you have trouble understanding the frustration in Lexi's post, I suggest a class on empathy.

[Lan]

God I'm too lazy for this shit. Link to posts that are supposedly "offended" so every one in the thread can get the context you're talking about.

Urg, PD... do your own backing up of stuff lol sigh..

I found this, I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for. PD is being a lazy turd

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42264776&postcount=290

That post is pretty accurate. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. You're trying to be yourself, and you're continuously rejected for it with the knowledge that you will never be a real born male/female and it eats you up inside. To make matters worse, many guys will reject you if you tell them, maybe even harm you, but if you hide that fact, you're on the wrong. Lexi isn't offended that people don't want her - because people clearly do if what she says in the thread is accurate, she is merely frustrated because of all of above. Thankfully, most trans girls seem to be bi. 

If you have trouble understanding the frustration in Lexi's post, I suggest a class on empathy.

Thanks but this isn't what I didn't understand. What I do not understand is the bigot crying if someone doesn't want to date a woman who was once a man. Do you not understand?

I don't get mad when people say they find all black women unattractive. I know its not true and I don't need to change their mind to sleep at night. You get it?

Speaking as a woman, if a man doesn't like me. I don't see him as a bigot. I assumed that attraction for everyone is a personal decision. No need to go about being combative when no one means harm to them. I can understand someone not calling them a man and getting mad at them.

Personally, I would not even be mad if a person called me a man. Since I know who I am and don't need validation from them. I guess words do not effect me as much as it would to other people?

[Himu]

I haven't read the whole thread, but that post is far from bigot crying. Also, your point seems like a strawman, as if to suggest dudes who reject trans women on the basis of their masculinity being at stake if they ever think of dating and marrying "dat cheeseburger" despite getting a boner DON'T exist.

In your case, I'll chalk it up to ignorance. In PD's case, I'll chalk this up to deflecting, because considering his porn tastes, I sure as hell know PD would fuck a trans gal.

[Lan]

I haven't read the whole thread, but that post is far from bigot crying. Also, your point seems like a strawman, as if to suggest dudes who reject trans women on the basis of their masculinity being on stake if they ever think of dating and marrying "dat cheeseburger" despite getting a boner.

In your case, I'll chalk it up to ignorance. In PD's case, I'll chalk this up to deflecting, because considering his porn tastes, I sure as hell know PD would fuck a trans gal.

No where did I say that in any context.

[Shadow Mod]

I haven't read the whole thread, but that post is far from bigot crying. Also, your point seems like a strawman, as if to suggest dudes who reject trans women on the basis of their masculinity being on stake if they ever think of dating and marrying "dat cheeseburger" despite getting a boner.

In your case, I'll chalk it up to ignorance. In PD's case, I'll chalk this up to deflecting, because considering his porn tastes, I sure as hell know PD would fuck a trans gal.

No where did I say that in any context.

But what else could it be if the attraction is there and she looks like a woman? People keep providing the why: because she was a man but not the how. How is it an issue?

[Himu]

Sorry Lan, I was eating one of these pineapple tarts and forgot the words don't exist after the word boner, but I edited it for you!

[Himu]

Goddamn, Lexi is bringing THE HEAT in that thread.

[tiesto]

Oscar what did TotA 3DS sell in US? Did it even chart?

Just wondering what the state of JRPGs is on 3DS, (likely bad, but I want to know relative to other systems.)

it did about half of what installments in the series usually do.  devil survivor overclocked did about half of what the ds version did.  the state of jrpgs on the 3ds is about the same as the state of jrpgs on any system in the USA right now - pretty bad.  but i'd wait and see what an actual new jrpg does on the thing rather than immediately judge by two oldish ports. 

my prediction?  pretty bad.  whatever attracted americans to jrpgs in the first place, it's gone now.  the hardcore fans can float the smaller stuff from atlus and xseed, but i don't have much hope for the genre long term in north america.

So depressing, if the RPG well dries up in America I might as well just quit gaming.

[Phoenix Dark]

Femmeworth is the worst in the thread. If someone has different preferences they aren't a bigot.

[Himu]

If you think Lexi's issue is that people merely have different preference, you are more delusional than I thought!

[Lan]

sure there are words beyond the word boner, but you are adding things that I didn't even imply. I just wanted to point that out.

What I don't understand is how does having a preference in who you are attracted to an attack on anyone who you do not find attractive? Trans or not.

I don't feel sorry for people who decide to hold or hide information for their own benefit. Because it will cause people to be violent to them. The violence comes from feelings of being violated in more ways than one by a person you trusted and thought you knew. At the end of the day........it is never ok to be violent and I hope less people react to situations like this in violence.

I will admit that I am ignorant when it comes to dating a trans person. I have seen trans people and have known one before they transitioned. Thats about all the knowledge I know from a personal stand point. So I am talking from a general basic standard that should be used when dating anyone. You have to be honest and up front. Maybe that is too hard to grasp.

[Himu]

Lan, this is the best post that summarizes my view:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42282315&postcount=657

[StealthFan]

But then you would have learned a language for the sole purpose of playing RPG's. I like to be in denial about how sad my life is.

[Lan]

Lan, this is the best post that summarizes my view:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42282315&postcount=657

ok, well insecurities do not justify lying or hiding truths.

If we go by that logic then a person raped that contracted a std has a right to hid that they have a std before having sex with someone else.

[Momo]

Reading Japanese is a pain though, speaking and understanding it verbally is much easier and the level I am at :/

A trans in france will romance Lance with a glance, a dance and a sexy advance.

[Himu]

Lan, this is the best post that summarizes my view:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42282315&postcount=657

ok, well insecurities do not justify lying or hiding truths.

If we go by that logic then a person raped that contracted a std has a right to hid that they have a std before having sex with someone else.

I have not justified lying. I disagree with Lexi on that. I'm merely stressing the importance of understanding the situation.

[Momo]

I had to drop language studies in 2004 or something, started freelancing and it clashed with my variable working hours. Now that I have a stable job I may go back and finish some languages. It's not a matter of me being lazy, it's a matter of time really.

[nudemacusers]

23 page trans thread on gaf.

it's full of stars.jpg

[Shadow Mod]

23 page trans thread on gaf.

it's full of stars.jpg

Well the last couple pages were bullshit about cooking.