The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread

[Great Rumbler]

It's always fun to see people come out and bemoan "censorship" in these kinds of threads. Do you want to champion freedom of expression or do you want to reach a broad audience so you can make a ton of money? Think fast!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

What I find most offensive is that zombie games are still being made.

[Shadow Mod]

While their argument is stupid (variations of "well person of this type likes it/has no problem with it, so what's the beef"), I also don't think it's particularly helpful to assume their 'person of this type' is imaginary or stupid or something.  Very real chance their person of that type actually doesn't care.  Possibly they aren't in their 20s and thus have real problems to worry about, so when hubby points at some dumb plastic toy on the internet and says "does this upset you", they really and truly honestly answer "no".

Devo, I find you're more often than not fighting the good fight, but you do it in such a way that you leave a different but equal mess behind you.  Their argument is stupid on its own.  You don't need to doll it up by assuming they're cheeto-dusted neckbeards.  Stupid is sufficient.

Being indifferent isn't the same as constantly trying to drown out those with a different opinion, which are the kinds I'm obviously talking about. Sides there have been plenty of dudes on GAF who straight up lie about their gf/wife, just do some GiS on the post your significant other thread.

[Shadow Mod]

Yes, there are some people who make up girlfriends.  There are some people who dress up like clowns and molest children.  It's not helpful to any dialogue to assume things about the other party, especially assuming the worst.  You're assuming their SOs are either imaginary, helpless, or stupid, when it's just as likely they're completely indifferent, and it's their derpy forum-using spouse that uses that indifference as ammo.  Again, that's the stupid part, and that's really all you need to win the argument as much as you're ever going to win it.  The extra assumptions you make only hurt your side of things.

If they're indifferent they wouldn't be fodder for the argument. I'm sure some don't care but those aren't the examples being put forth. I don't really care either up to a point, especially since video games are becoming complete dust shelf material for me but I don't find it surprising that they married someone who is in lock step with their shitty opinions.

[Shadow Mod]

They might not even know they're being used as fodder for the argument.

Then they're married to someone who they're unaware is using them to justify their sexism. That would make them naive or idiots.

[Shadow Mod]

Alright, I give up.  I hope someday you realize that your assumptions and judgmental nature are at odds with what your overall goals seem to be.

I don't have any goals on that site, there is no point, it's completely futile to argue any such points about objectification when they put fingers in their ears and yell "pc brigade, pc brigade, pc brigade."

[recursivelyenumerable]

I thought it was the PC master race

[Rahxephon91]

What I find most offensive is that zombie games are still being made.

zombies are pretty much at their most popular point right now. It's actually a shame RE6 sucked. It could have been huge.

[Cerveza mas fina]

the other 80% love anime tits and star wars.

Do they really LOVE it though?

Whenever I meet real geeks it always strikes me they want to convince everyone they LOVEEEEEE it and thats all they need in life.

[Momo]

The Dead Island titgate doesnt bother me at all.

[brawndolicious]

the other 80% love anime tits and star wars.

Do they really LOVE it though?

Whenever I meet real geeks it always strikes me they want to convince everyone they LOVEEEEEE it and thats all they need in life.

A circle-jerking mosh pit of forever-aloneness.

[Kabouter]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508510

Tax stuff I don't like or enjoy.

While there are certainly objections to some of the OP's suggestions, there is nothing inherently wrong with excise taxes to make people pay for the negative externalities of their behaviour/consumption. Someone driving a car is not paying the real costs of doing so if the fuel carries no fuel duty tax and there are no other taxes in place to account for the pollution produced. The same goes for most popular things to levy excise taxes on. On top of that are, in the case of driving a car at least, the costs of maintaining the infrastructure. The user pays principle should be the guiding principle in determining how to fund this, and that would be most practically met by an excise tax on fuel, especially given the low compliance costs involved compared to alternatives. On the other hand, a tax based on the number of passengers cars carry is of course nonsensical.

Oh, and on an entirely different subject. Who the fuck would want a fake bloody torso in their house? Let alone a Union Jack.

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508510

Tax stuff I don't like or enjoy.

While there are certainly objections to some of the OP's suggestions, there is nothing inherently wrong with excise taxes to make people pay for the negative externalities of their behaviour/consumption. Someone driving a car is not paying the real costs of doing so if the fuel carries no fuel duty tax and there are no other taxes in place to account for the pollution produced. The same goes for most popular things to levy excise taxes on. On top of that are, in the case of driving a car at least, the costs of maintaining the infrastructure. The user pays principle should be the guiding principle in determining how to fund this, and that would be most practically met by an excise tax on fuel, especially given the low compliance costs involved compared to alternatives. On the other hand, a tax based on the number of passengers cars carry is of course nonsensical.

Oh, and on an entirely different subject. Who the fuck would want a fake bloody torso in their house? Let alone a Union Jack.

Or you could just force companies to build more fuel efficient vehicles instead of taxing the individual and making those cars available in the first fucking place.

[Kabouter]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508510

Tax stuff I don't like or enjoy.

While there are certainly objections to some of the OP's suggestions, there is nothing inherently wrong with excise taxes to make people pay for the negative externalities of their behaviour/consumption. Someone driving a car is not paying the real costs of doing so if the fuel carries no fuel duty tax and there are no other taxes in place to account for the pollution produced. The same goes for most popular things to levy excise taxes on. On top of that are, in the case of driving a car at least, the costs of maintaining the infrastructure. The user pays principle should be the guiding principle in determining how to fund this, and that would be most practically met by an excise tax on fuel, especially given the low compliance costs involved compared to alternatives. On the other hand, a tax based on the number of passengers cars carry is of course nonsensical.

Oh, and on an entirely different subject. Who the fuck would want a fake bloody torso in their house? Let alone a Union Jack.

Or you could just force companies to build more fuel efficient vehicles instead of taxing the individual and making those cars available in the first fucking place.

Well any measure you implement that interferes in the economic decision making process to achieve a goal should be the least disruptive possible that achieves that goal. Forcing a privately held company to take certain actions is considerably more invasive and disruptive than incentivizing the purchase of more efficient cars/carpooling/driving less through fuel duty taxes.

[FStop7]

In the USA, cars that don't meet a certain level of fuel efficiency have a "gas guzzler tax" added to the price.  That tax is collected up front, in full, whether or not the buyer drives that car 10,000 miles a year or 10 miles a year. 

In California you're paying 69 cents in taxes per gallon of gas. 

[king of the internet]

I can't even post there anymore. I read that thread about the CE disembodied statue for Dead Island and just got annoyed by everybody. I'm more annoyed these days at how devs think so little of gamers and enough gamers reinforce it so we're all forced to deal with the same derivative crap over and over. At this point it's not about objectification, sexualization or any of that shit, people just swallow awful games with awful story lines, awful characters and awful gameplay. If CEs are basically some fucking prize for someone who likes that kind of shit, (I realize they pulled it), people should just be insulted at the insinuation that they are nothing more than some 12 year old horny nerd.

Engaging in that topic is one of many mistakes I've made in my life.

You must be a masochist or something. I can only make one or two posts in a thread like that before throwing up my hands and saying 'fuck it'. I can only see the same, moronic shit posted so many times before I give up. Fighting against it is more or less the equivalent of banging my head against a wall. There's so many people arguing against a non-existent point of view. "You people are PANICKING over a pair of boobs? Violence is okay, but a pair of female breasts makes you FREAK THE FUCK OUT? If it was a dude's ripped chest you wouldn't care, typical American double standards. That's GAF, always pretending to be outraged over nothing!"

I spent way to much time reading that thread, and I didn't see anyone "freak out" (even with internet hyperbole factored in). No one found it offensive because they find breasts offensive, because it's not just a pair of breasts devoid of context. No one called for a petition to ban it. And the whole argument about it being a non-issue if it was a male torso is missing the point entirely. Like FStop said, the general negative reaction was more along the lines of a disappointed sigh, rather than the state of panic that a lot of those dummies tried to depict. But why bother pointing that out when the next post will likely be some chump repeating that same dumb shit yet again?

Oh, and the worst argument has the be the one suggesting that the people supposedly outraged over the issue are also the same people who order loli anime figurines. That shit is just lazy.

[Don Flamenco]

I can't even post there anymore. I read that thread about the CE disembodied statue for Dead Island and just got annoyed by everybody. I'm more annoyed these days at how devs think so little of gamers and enough gamers reinforce it so we're all forced to deal with the same derivative crap over and over. At this point it's not about objectification, sexualization or any of that shit, people just swallow awful games with awful story lines, awful characters and awful gameplay. If CEs are basically some fucking prize for someone who likes that kind of shit, (I realize they pulled it), people should just be insulted at the insinuation that they are nothing more than some 12 year old horny nerd.

Engaging in that topic is one of many mistakes I've made in my life.

See, stuff like this...

Hmm... I think chopping up zombies is one of the key mechanics of the game. Completing tasks, traversing the island, all the while killing zombies is the gameplay. Whether or not we should examine the glorification of violence is perhaps something we should put on the table as well in terms of determining appropriateness of content, but I don't think objection to the statue automatically necessitates that conversation.

Anyway, back to the game. Yes, you kill zombies. Some of which may be women. Some of them may even be scantily clad. This is all true. But I don't think standing over the mutilated corpse of hot zombie girl -- outside of the existence of this statue -- is something necessarily brought to the forefront as something for you to take note of. I don't know how other people played. Maybe they'd kill the zombie with the nice rack and admire their kill, take a snapshot, and make it their desktop background. I don't know.

is where you lose the internet audience.  Bringing in your pesky logic to break this situation down past the point where it proves another guy's argument!

[thisismyusername]

Just got absolutely shit on by this guy - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46447450&postcount=141

Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmn.

More kids will die this year from drunk driving than have ever been killed in random mass shootings involving semi-auto weapons, and a simple 'blow-n-go' device could easily be built into every car at a reasonable cost, but nobody's out there screaming for that to happen. Why? Because it's the drunk's fault, not everyone else's.

Preach, dude.

Oh, and on an entirely different subject. Who the fuck would want a fake bloody torso in their house? Let alone a Union Jack.

This is the problem. It (IMO) isn't sexist or whatever they're going on about, it's just a stupid idea all around. Who wants a gory bloody torso in their house? I don't and I say that as someone that would play Dead Island.

[Great Rumbler]

More kids will die this year from drunk driving than have ever been killed in random mass shootings involving semi-auto weapons, and a simple 'blow-n-go' device could easily be built into every car at a reasonable cost, but nobody's out there screaming for that to happen. Why? Because it's the drunk's fault, not everyone else's.

Just wanna throw out a few stats here:

-181 children [age 14 and under] were killed in 2009 because of alcohol-related traffic accidents
-92 of those were occupants in the vehicle with the drunk driver
-Only 27 were outside of a vehicle entirely

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

[FStop7]

Tzeentch is like the only sane person in the gun control threads (on what might be called the "pro gun" side.)

Edit - and Bodacious.

I don't think 'pro gun' is even right, Tzeentch is just smart enough to see the what the NRA's play is rather than just fly off the handle, insult people, and then backslap other posters with meme gifs.

Anyway, what some people don't seem to get is that when you boil it down to the purest, simplest, coldest truth - the President's spouse and children are a liability.  They are a national security risk.  They are a vector for attack, coercion, intimidation, etc.  Keeping them safe is critical because they can be used against the President to make him potentially do things that are not in the best interest of the country.  So yeah, guard the fuck out of them.

[Don Flamenco]

There should be a tax for starting new threads.

Also, this guy - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46446910&postcount=127

Just got absolutely shit on by this guy - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46447450&postcount=141

But of course since that guy wasn't farting out gun control hyperbole his well informed posts go largely ignored.  If it had been the other way around there would have been 50 pages of one word replies and animated GIFs of cats, ponies, idris elba, and pro wrestlers exclaiming shit in praise of teh sick burnz.

As much as people angrily deny it there's a lot of groupthink on GAF.

pretty much textbook perfect answers.   

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46514540&postcount=233

VoxPop losing his mind in the S3 vs. iPhone thread.

[Broseidon]

God I hate gaygaf

[ToxicAdam]

Who said console warz is dead? They just all moved on to the phone threads.

[parallax]

God I hate gaygaf (Image removed from quote.)

why cheez?

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46522672&postcount=44

 

For people who don't get the reference:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505922

[Tasty]

Who said console warz is dead? They just all moved on to the phone threads.

Sure seems that way.

[tiesto]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46522672&postcount=44

 

For people who don't get the reference:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505922

That guy always struck me as a bit of an ass but LIers have a pretty skewed reality and love to think that the rest of the country is the same. So I can't fault him too much, and there are more than a fair share of "gen Y" islanders who are spoiled and entitled. I was more offended at the evil solrac guy who said everyone from the island is spoiled

[TakingBackSunday]

Who said console warz is dead? They just all moved on to the phone threads.

Sure seems that way.

coming from an android banner man, I found this post lulzworthy

[TakingBackSunday]

I suppose that's endearing I guess

[Tasty]

Sadly, I don't even really care much about Android anymore. It's fantastic now and I feel that at this point it's usually up to preference.

I'm more annoying when it comes to Chrome/OS/HTML5, cause to me it seems there's more misinfo about that than Android now.

[TakingBackSunday]

ah okay, that makes sense.  I still think Android is pretty grossly designed but I like its flexibility.

did you end up getting that chromebook, btw

[Steve Youngblood]

In the face of tragedy that compels us to confront complex, multi-faceted societal problems that really don't have a clear solution, at least some posters are there to guide that discussion down reasonable avenues. This is one such poster: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46524775&postcount=381

[Broseidon]

God I hate gaygaf (Image removed from quote.)

why cheez?

Have you been in there? I'd imagine half of them would write with a lisp if they could.

Too much popGAF crossover  and general queeniness.

[Van Cruncheon]

Sadly, I don't even really care much about Android anymore. It's fantastic now and I feel that at this point it's usually up to preference.

I'm more annoying when it comes to Chrome/OS/HTML5, cause to me it seems there's more misinfo about that than Android now.

so you only defended it when it was shit...? :scratch

[Shadow Mod]

 

[DCharlieJP]

Man, the Nthing play book really is something

the Media Create figures are in , PS3 above Wii U, all figures generally shat except 3DS

Wow at Wii U figures --> wait for the games --> Nintendo Japan stuff --> At least not a big a bomb as Vita --> Nintendo isn't going to Vita because... --> Nintendo are better than Sony --> FZero > Wipeout ---> Wipeout is shit --> Wipeout dev team is talentless --> fucking wipeout --> Wipeout isn't as good as F Zero X --> What is the best F Zero? --> Wipeout is shit --> Wipeout was canned for a reason etc...

from Bad news for Nintendo to Wipeout Hate thread - a master class in thread control.

[Himu]

account activated.

the games begin.

guess my username

[DCharlieJP]

Binuro?

[Broseidon]

Have you posted yet?

[fistfulofmetal]

i created an account so i could go 100ppp but i forgot the password and i forgot the email i used for it lol

[Shadow Mod]

Koshiba's Black Knight

[tiesto]

Sadly, I don't even really care much about Android anymore. It's fantastic now and I feel that at this point it's usually up to preference.

I'm more annoying when it comes to Chrome/OS/HTML5, cause to me it seems there's more misinfo about that than Android now.

so you only defended it when it was shit...? :scratch

People love the underdog! How else do you explain me and Cajole and all those other Met fans out there?

[pilonv1]

Heruro

Hermuro
Hermano

[Broseidon]

Hermana, surely?

[Himu]

[TakingBackSunday]

I still like Shemále

[jiji]

I see a lot of crossover between the Dead Island shitfest and the Obama gaming study thread.

I've been participating in gaming-side poliGAF threads without realizing it.   :shyamalan 

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46530187&postcount=8

[Broseidon]

So that Zyrusticae dude is a pedo, eh?

Hmmmmm

Edit: i mean this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=46500456#post46500456

[Polyh3dron]

 

you're apparently a sexist mooching basement dweller who needs to go outside

[Shadow Mod]

Kids, while vulnerable, are not as vulnerable as an unconscious person, someone in a coma, someone on severe narcotics, or someone who is mentally distinguished mentally-challenged

 

Ban this sick fuck gaf mods.

[etiolate]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That puts his love of Tera into perspective.

[Flannel Boy]

So that Zyrusticae dude is a pedo, eh?

Hmmmmm

Edit: i mean this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=46500456#post46500456

I actually have a very hard time understanding why "statutory rape" is considered as severe as it is. From my perspective, sexual activity with a minor, while definitely creepy (even I'M a pedophile and can admit that much), isn't the same thing or even comparable to forcible rape (which can destroy a person forever, adult or child). Hell, I was exposed to pornography from a very young age and it never traumatized me or anything, so again I don't really understand the stigma behind it.

edit: I'm not implying that his early exposure to pornography caused him to be a pedo. Just pointing out his lack of self-awareness: how can he make such a definitive claim when he admits to being a pedophile.

[Shadow Mod]

Some people are commending him for outing himself while he posts shit trying to question why sex with kids is illegal and rationalize his disgusting desires. 

[Shadow Mod]

People wonder why pedos get so much shit it's because the ones I've run into (on the internet) are always trying to pretend like fucking little kids isn't that wrong or that they really do love them.

[Joe Molotov]

Some perverts up in GAF nawtumsayin'?

[etiolate]

Adult women, for example, can serve in a pinch provided they are flat-chested, possess neotenous features, are relatively short, are clean-shaven, and have a cute voice.

maybe he and aguirre can hook up

[Joe Molotov]

"In a pinch, I'd rape an adult, but they'd have to be small and weak enough for me to overpower."

[brob]

proud pedophiles and chemical castration champions. what a truly thought-inspiring conversation.