All off the OoT 3DS wagon?

[pilonv1]

Himuro is on full damage control here. He will go down with the ship if necessary

it's pretty pathetic honestly. 2011 console looks indistinguishable from 1996 game

[cool breeze]

I submit to himumu's sermon.  Let's breakdown all the good things about OoT 3DS:

1) First good portable Zelda game since 2005

2) It
 

[Oblivion]

1) First good portable Zelda game since 2005

bububu now we won't get any more awesome zeldas like ph or st   :'( :'( :'(

[magus]

what bothers me is that they haven't even updated the music :-/

it's the same terrible midi

Tell me again Himu how this is the same as a Blu Ray updated release

Hint: Blade Runner on Blu came with 5 versions of the movie, some of them unreleased. This doesn't even come with Master Quest from that FREE bonus disc I have on GameCube.

there are 5 versions of blade runner?

[MCD]

I haven't played OOT in a long time. This will be awesome even with shit graphics (I think they are fine though).

[Great Rumbler]

what bothers me is that they haven't even updated the music :-/

it's the same terrible midi

Tell me again Himu how this is the same as a Blu Ray updated release

Hint: Blade Runner on Blu came with 5 versions of the movie, some of them unreleased. This doesn't even come with Master Quest from that FREE bonus disc I have on GameCube.

there are 5 versions of blade runner?

-Final Cut [definitive version]
-US Theatrical Cut [Happy ending, narration]
-International Cut [Happy ending, narration, additional violence]
-Director's Cut [No happy ending, no narration]
-Workprint [Early test version that led to changes that resulted in US Theatrical Cut]

[demi]

I wish I had the Cube Zeldas, that shit is pricey on eBay.

[Smooth Groove]

I still have my Windwalker and maybe the N64 disc.  How much is that worth? 

I don't think my N64 disc had Major's Mask though.  If I remembered correctly, Nintendo had some kinda Madoff scam that made you buy a couple of games before you could order the collector disc with MM.

Fuckety fuck.  Just thinking of Nintendo's ripoffs pisses me off. 

[demi]

"pricey" considering what most games of that era are worth, is a better way of words

And prices I dont feel like paying

[Smooth Groove]

Look at the small list of games that you had to choose from:

Mario Kart Double Dash!!, Mario Party 5, Mario & Luigi, Superstar Saga, and 1080 Avalanche.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/457/457897p1.html

At most, I'd want one game from that list.  Notice how Windwalker isn't on the list so that Zelda fans would have to buy 3 games. 

If Nintendo wasn't trying to pull a fast one again, why didn't they just include the rest of the Zelda games on the original Windwalker bonus disc? 

[Oblivion]

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga was pretty sweet, tho.

[Smooth Groove]

I'm a big Mario fan but I've never tried any of the Mario rpgs.  Mario rpg just seemed kinda dumb. 

[AdmiralViscen]

Superstar Saga is the only good one.


edit - handheld. never played the others

[Positive Touch]

"pricey" considering what most games of that era are worth, is a better way of words

And prices I dont feel like paying

i have them all and ill give you $5 off each

[demi]

What does that make it $30 each?

No thanks...

[Sho Nuff]

Hey dipshits

The above are graphics from hardware that's out NOW and $20 cheaper than a 3DS



Let's defend 15-year-old graphics instead

[EmCeeGrammar]

What's weird about the 3DS is you have games looking like N64 games, games looking like GC/Wii games, and games looking like X360/PS3 games all on the same hardware.

I haven't seen any 3DS games that look like GC games, never mind X360/PS3 games. What are you smoking?

The resident evil stuff is very close to GC/ps2.
Marlboro Milds.

[Positive Touch]

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Hey dipshits

The above are graphics from hardware that's out NOW and $20 cheaper than a 3DS

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Let's defend 15-year-old graphics instead

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES EVER MADE that i could easily emulate on my pc in under 10 minutes

[Bebpo]

Well, I was going by the Revelations bullshots that look like RE5 with far less polygons in tiny corridors.

[Sho Nuff]

Some of the RE demos I saw at E3 were mindblowing, but it was literally 1 or 2 characters on a black background with no gameplay.

[Smooth Groove]

Look at the small list of games that you had to choose from:

Mario Kart Double Dash!!, Mario Party 5, Mario & Luigi, Superstar Saga, and 1080 Avalanche.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/457/457897p1.html

At most, I'd want one game from that list.  Notice how Windwalker isn't on the list so that Zelda fans would have to buy 3 games. 

If Nintendo wasn't trying to pull a fast one again, why didn't they just include the rest of the Zelda games on the original Windwalker bonus disc? 

Well yes, they obviously used it as a sales incentive.  That doesn't automatically make it a rip-off.  They provided multiple ways to get the collection, and at the very worst, a person would have to buy a Nintendo Power subscription, which was at the time $15.  All of these methods resulted in a free Zelda Collection.  If that's an anger-inducing rip-off to you, I have no idea how you actively participate as a customer in this hobby.

It's a matter of principle, dammit!  Nintendo could have just included everything on the original bonus disc instead of making me buy a sub to their crappy mag or another shitty game.

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Actually, I'm not even sure why I'm complaining since I never even bothered to play Zelda 64 on the bonus disc. 

[close]

Hey dipshits

The above are graphics from hardware that's out NOW and $20 cheaper than a 3DS

correction, it's just Himumu

[Damian79]

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Not even close

The shaders might help the games look better than some last gen stuff but you still had better geometry/textures last gen

Judging from the videos they look about the same if not better.  You are using a resized image to make your point.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[tiesto]

I'm a big Mario fan but I've never tried any of the Mario rpgs.  Mario rpg just seemed kinda dumb. 

I've only played Super Paper Mario, the original Mario RPG, and Bowser's Inside Story. I liked the original the best... and for as much praise as Bowser's Inside Story got, I thought the game was pretty shitty, gimmicky and repetitive (and the soundtrack was )

[magus]

the mario rpg's are good especialy when you consider it's a wacky humorous game in a genre that's full of people dying and heroes doing the big no

one scene i particulary like in super mario rpg it's this one which is lifted straightly from a looney tunes cartoon

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

oh and the original paper mario also has a whole level dedicated to shy guys which are the best mario character evah

and for as much praise as Bowser's Inside Story got, I thought the game was pretty shitty

yea i agree lamest mario rpg of the munch together with super paper mario,stick with the original by squaresoft or the two paper mario's

heck the first paper mario is even on virtual console so.....

[demi]

1 > 3 > 2

[EmCeeGrammar]

What's weird about the 3DS is you have games looking like N64 games, games looking like GC/Wii games, and games looking like X360/PS3 games all on the same hardware.

I haven't seen any 3DS games that look like GC games, never mind X360/PS3 games. What are you smoking?

The resident evil stuff is very close to GC/ps2.
Marlboro Milds.

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Not even close

The shaders might help the games look better than some last gen stuff but you still had better geometry/textures last gen

Let's not play the game where we pick specific screenshots to prove our point.  Its a reasonable comparison when comparing both games in motion.  Resi 4 came out in the twilight of the cube anyway,  3ds isn't going to be an exception to developers improving their handling on the hardware as time goes on.

Let's get real though, there is no pleasing many of you.

[cool breeze]

From what was shown, Revelations (and Mercenaries 3D) are definitely not RE4 quality.  There are some neat effects that are more out of RE5 than RE4, but a lot of that just hides the other problems.  It's pretty noticeable when you do first person aiming and see her block hand.

[youtube=560,345]SFWPM5XrzIk[/youtube]

still looks really good and better than most PSP games (especially with that smooth frame rate and considering it is probably early).

and it is comparing 2011 portable hardware with a 2004 portable and 2001 console.  You would think it could manage to best them.

[iconoclast]

All of the handheld Mario RPGs have been kinda crappy. I don't know how they fell off so hard after the amazing TTYD. That was probably the best GC game, right after F-Zero GX.

[iconoclast]

Oh wow, for whatever reason I just assumed they were by the same developer. I guess because they play so similarly.

This explains everything.

[Bebpo]

The only mario rpgs I've enjoyed have been the SNES one which was awesome, M&L1 which was at least playable until the end, and Paper Mario 2 which was fairly good.

I still need to play Paper Mario 1.  Really disliked M&L2 and no interest in ever playing M&L3.  Not much of a fan of alpha dream.

[TakingBackSunday]

Mario RPG for SNES is fucking awful!    it's square for dummies, and it's not at all well designed

Paper Mario 1 and 2 (TTYD) are some of Nintendo's best games, especially in regards to localization and design.  SPM is one of the most disappointing games I've played by Nintendo, but it looks as though they're going back to regular Paper Mario design for the 3DS iteration.

Mario and Luigi was one of my most played GBA games; I loved it.  The second was a terrible excuse for a game that was hastily made for a release on the DS.  Mario and Luigi 3 is really fun, but it'd be better if you played as Bowser the entire time, NOT mario and Luigi.

[Himu]

Mario RPG sucks balls

[Oblivion]

Wow, I think Bowser RPG is leagues ahead of the snorefest first two M&Ls.  The Paper Mario games are good I guess but I never made it to the end of any of them except Super Paper Mario. 

My condolences. 

[Van Cruncheon]

mario rpg is the worst by far. the "best" -- very much in air quotes --  are the first and third mario & luigi games, and paper mario 2

[TakingBackSunday]

sorry they don't have any lolli rape sims   

[Great Rumbler]

Super Mario RPG

[cool breeze]

Paper Mario N64, Paper Mario TTYD Gamecube, and the first Mario Luigi are probably the only good ones (TTYD especially bein great) so hopefully Paper Mario 3DS is good too.

Super Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi 2 and Bowser's Inside Story were all really boring.  It's a shame because the latter two were similar to the first mario and luigi, and Super Paper Mario had a cool concept, but goddamn they were just so unbelievably boring.  The 10 hours or so I played of Bowser's Inside Story felt like a slow tutorial.

[magus]

sorry they don't have any lolli rape sims   

clearly a fake statement!

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[Oblivion]

Bad day to be a hater? Seems so.

[AdmiralViscen]

Everyone knows Link's model is better. It is gonna be funny if the house interiors are still pre-rendered bitmaps.

[magus]

i don't give a care about graphics if they are good,if they are not or if they aren't good enough..... but you guys give me the same vibe of those....

*kirby game get announced*
"AND PEOPLE SAYS THAT WII HAS NO GAMES!"

that!

[EmCeeGrammar]

bu bu bu what about forcing people to have big budgets for handheld games!!! </nintendofansarethebiggestdoublestandardprawncocksontheplanet>

Nintendo doesn't really have standards for third parties.

See dsiware/wiiware  :'(

[cool breeze]

So this game releasing in 2011/2012 does look better than the one from 1998? damn, Nintendo is going all out on this.

but really, is there any chance this will be a 2011 game? I've been looking at the other 3DS games there isn't really anything I want other than this except maybe pilot wings.

[Himu]

Everyone knows Link's model is better. It is gonna be funny if the house interiors are still pre-rendered bitmaps.

You mean that very same screenshot where there was a pre-rendered bg in the orignal?

[Himu]

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clearly an n64 game

Wow that looks rad

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Get your ngp crap out of this thread, you probably won't even buy one or play one.

[Smooth Groove]

"cause you might be dead from AIDS by the time NPG releases. 

[MoxManiac]

Uh, 3DS has SSF4.

3DS

[Van Cruncheon]

do you really thing the ngp won't get a version  of ssf4

and at a resolution massively higher than (ugh) 400x240

[magus]

yea and while they are there they can also bring marvel vs capcom 3

cap-port

[Oblivion]

The hell is an NGP?

Bad day to be a hater? Seems so.

nothing changes the fact that it's STILL Ocarina Of Time

Is that supposed to be an insult, SIR? 

[magus]

The hell is an NGP?

PSP 2

[Oblivion]

The hell is an NGP?

PSP 2

huh, so it is.

[EmCeeGrammar]

do you really thing the ngp won't get a version  of ssf4

and at a resolution massively higher than (ugh) 400x240

Gawd, you're just fixated on this aren't ya.

[Phoenix Dark]

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Bad day to be a hater? Seems so.

[AdmiralViscen]

Everyone knows Link's model is better. It is gonna be funny if the house interiors are still pre-rendered bitmaps.

You mean that very same screenshot where there was a pre-rendered bg in the orignal?

uh yes that is exactly what I was getting at

I would hope bitmaps would be higher res when carts are greater than 8MB in capacity

[SantaC]

same music and sound effects as in the original verion. N64 quality 

deku tree looks as crappy as ever.

[demi]

Could they make Link any more of a cool young dude elf. Look at those ears.

[magus]

same music and sound effects as in the original verion. N64 quality 

deku tree looks as crappy as ever.

ocarina music is horrible "DUUUUUHHHH DUUUUUUUHH  DUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH"

[Diunx]

Stupid modern game and their stupid orchestrated music! You show them how is done nintendo!

[Himu]

OoT has a lot of good music. Mostly not the dungeon music, though. But it does have fantastic music.