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« Reply #120 on: March 11, 2011, 11:19:00 PM »
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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #121 on: March 11, 2011, 11:55:59 PM »
That image is biased. They conveniently forgot to include the biggest blockbuster 360 exclusive of the year: Gun Loco.
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« Reply #122 on: March 12, 2011, 12:46:50 AM »
All NES games were completely original? Please.

You guys are starting to sound like GAF members.

This is the generation where originality is flourishing because of the indie uprising, and you're still complaining.

I never said all were, rather most were.  What game is out now that is like Adventure of Lolo?  Each game on the NES was fairly original.  What game on the NES was the same as another that wasnt a sequel to a game?

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« Reply #123 on: March 12, 2011, 01:19:54 AM »
Holy shit.  I have never heard of that game.  Any other megaman clones?

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« Reply #124 on: March 12, 2011, 01:36:31 AM »
What game on the NES was the same as another that wasnt a sequel to a game?

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« Reply #125 on: March 12, 2011, 09:24:52 AM »
All NES games were completely original? Please.

You guys are starting to sound like GAF members.

This is the generation where originality is flourishing because of the indie uprising, and you're still complaining.

I never said all were, rather most were.  What game is out now that is like Adventure of Lolo?  Each game on the NES was fairly original.  What game on the NES was the same as another that wasnt a sequel to a game?


Battle of Olympus? Final Fantasy?

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« Reply #126 on: March 12, 2011, 11:25:51 AM »
What the hell happened in the last two pages.  I think if anything has been made obvious this gen is that the unbiased platform agnostic barely exists anymore.  I at least had the sense to admit I'm biased as hell. 
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« Reply #127 on: March 12, 2011, 12:04:50 PM »
All NES games were completely original? Please.

You guys are starting to sound like GAF members.

This is the generation where originality is flourishing because of the indie uprising, and you're still complaining.

I never said all were, rather most were.  What game is out now that is like Adventure of Lolo?  Each game on the NES was fairly original.  What game on the NES was the same as another that wasnt a sequel to a game?

so originality just constitutes a new fresh coat of paint and has nothing to do with actual game design?

ok...

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« Reply #128 on: March 12, 2011, 12:13:25 PM »
I actually meant in terms of game design but whatever.

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« Reply #129 on: March 12, 2011, 01:44:55 PM »
please elaborate.

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« Reply #130 on: March 12, 2011, 05:08:02 PM »
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While Sony was reluctant to hand out the hardware data, Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter passed along the NPD data for the PS3 console: it sold 403,000 units for the month of February. That's up 12% year-over-year but it's still not as good as Xbox 360's 535,000 (27% bump) or Wii's 454,000 (14% rise). Additionally, the PlayStation Move continues to be outsold by Kinect it would seem.

"Under one-fifth of PS3 sales included bundles with Sony’s Move controller, suggesting another modest month (we have chosen not to subscribe to peripheral data). Over 2/3 of Xbox 360 sales included bundles with Microsoft’s Kinect peripheral, as Xbox 360 Kinect console bundles again outsold PS3 Move console bundles by over 5:1," commented Pachter. "We note that the top selling Kinect software titles easily outsold their Move counterparts."

Pachter also reiterated that price cuts are likely forthcoming but that for now 360 and Kinect have the momentum.

"We expect demand for the Xbox 360 to remain stronger than the other consoles due to the popularity of Kinect. We expect Wii and PS3 hardware sales to continue to decline (despite February’s up month for both) in the first part of 2011," he said. "Without further price cuts, we expect hardware sales to be down in 2011, and we think that the console manufacturers will position cuts around the E3 Expo in early June."

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« Reply #131 on: March 12, 2011, 09:18:37 PM »
It's hard to be unbiased when the base systems are so differently targeted. PS3 started off as a grand extension of the PS2; you could do whatever you wanted, including installing a different OS on it. The networking infrastructure was per-game, and up to the developer. You can also use it as a media box, but only separately from games.

The 360 has enabled the media stuff, as well as being consistent about user access to their own music library while playing games. They also had a standardized form of e-peen for contact networks through Achievements. But substantially more importantly, MS made the game console itself a networked, social experience with cross-game voice chat from the outset, and now Party chat and Party game invites, gathering, etc.

That image is biased. They conveniently forgot to include the biggest blockbuster 360 exclusive of the year: Gun Loco.
It's also funny to include Killzone as a positive reinforcement. By most accounts, playing KZ is the equivalent of being hit in the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

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« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2011, 10:58:14 AM »
Some new numbers,COD numbers doesn't include PC

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Wedbush Numbers:

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 775,000

Dead Space 2 - ~311,880 (Down 31% from first month was the statement)

Zumba Fitness - 301,000

Mario Sports Mix - 200,000

Dragon Quest VI - 50,000

de Blob 2 - Much less than 75,000

uDraw - About the same as it sold in January

22 games sold over 100,000 copies (Up from 20 last year).

Kinect bundles outsold Move bundles 5:1 again.

DS2 is going nicely...

Source is Wedbush,via gaf...pdf file bellow





Gametrailers Invisible Walls will have more numbers,hopefully
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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2011, 12:39:03 PM »
All NES games were completely original? Please.

You guys are starting to sound like GAF members.

This is the generation where originality is flourishing because of the indie uprising, and you're still complaining.

I never said all were, rather most were.  What game is out now that is like Adventure of Lolo?  Each game on the NES was fairly original.  What game on the NES was the same as another that wasnt a sequel to a game?

Are you by any chance slightly distinguished mentally-challenged?
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« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2011, 02:29:23 PM »
I think if anything has been made obvious this gen is that the unbiased platform agnostic barely exists anymore.
Actually it feels more like the opposite. Fanbois will always be fanbois, but for most of us rational console gamers, each console has enough on its own to merit being a fan of it. I like the PS3 for a specific set of reasons, and I like the Xbox 360 for a completely different set of reasons. They don't actually compete with each other anymore.

The Wii is on its own though.

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2011, 10:23:42 PM »
How weird is it to see Majesco in the top ten? Next thing you know, they'll be talking Advent Rising 2...

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2011, 01:41:43 AM »




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« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2011, 01:47:55 AM »
Too bad about de Bomb 2. It'll probably pick up steam once the TV show for it comes out.

Hopefully Gamefly sends it to me sometime over the next 6 months. Looks like a decent game to relax with.
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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2011, 02:17:17 AM »
please elaborate.

All the games i played on the NES were quite different form each other.  Many games i found to be inspired despite being cheap. Like robo warrior for example.

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Adventures of Lolo

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Even games like Battle of Olympus was unique in its own way.

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2011, 02:32:17 AM »
Dude. There were shitloads of clones and unoriginal games on the nes, and snes and all throughout gaming history. You are mis-remembering history and adding in nostalgia.

If there is less diversity in the major big time big budget titles of today that is because they are so big budget and they cost so much to make compared to the past that publishers get conservative and only greenlight titles that have mainstream appeal which is generally the titles that are already selling because its much easier to copy what is popular than create the next popular thing. That being said there is a very vibrant indie/small dev scene that flourishes on XBLA/I-devices/PSN/PC, etc.

When people make blanket complaints that there isn't a lot of diversity in the market what that tells me is that they aren't really actively looking for that diversity or that they are poor. (Or too dumb to figure out how to pirate games)

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« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2011, 06:20:11 AM »
Dude. There were shitloads of clones and unoriginal games on the nes, and snes and all throughout gaming history.
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You are mis-remembering history and adding in nostalgia.


If there is less diversity in the major big time big budget titles of today that is because they are so big budget and they cost so much to make compared to the past that publishers get conservative and only greenlight titles that have mainstream appeal which is generally the titles that are already selling because its much easier to copy what is popular than create the next popular thing. That being said there is a very vibrant indie/small dev scene that flourishes on XBLA/I-devices/PSN/PC, etc.

When people make blanket complaints that there isn't a lot of diversity in the market what that tells me is that they aren't really actively looking for that diversity or that they are poor. (Or too dumb to figure out how to pirate games)

Maybe i just didnt play the clones or something.  I honestly dont remember the clones though.  As for the indie games, i agree, especially on the i-devices but it is hard wading thorugh the 10k or so titles on it to get the good games and i guess i had defective ipod didnt help at the time i had one.

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« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2011, 09:08:45 AM »
There's quite a number of great and creative indies but for every "SpaceChem" or "Knytt Stories", there's a million Bejeweled clones or twinstick shooters. But I think what Damian is talking about, and something that is unarguable, is that the creativity in big-budget HD console games is at an all-time low. While in the NES/SNES/PS1 and even the PS2 days, you'd have big-budget (for their time) games that would try something different.

And yeah we need a new Adventures of Lolo-esque game :(
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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2011, 09:37:03 AM »
The big budget game industry has changed and that part is never going back to the way it was most likely. It's easy to experiment when the cost of experimenting doesn't require your entire company to be shut down if it fails. The movie industry went through a similar phase in the 70's when movies like Jaws and Star Wars redefined what a blockbuster movie meant. So yes that part of the industry is different but the smaller budget scene like I mentioned is growing and will only grow in the future. That is where most of the unique content will come in the future. Things are changing. It's going to happen for the rest of our lives. 

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2011, 10:35:28 AM »
please elaborate.

All the games i played on the NES were quite different form each other.  Many games i found to be inspired despite being cheap. Like robo warrior for example.


Adventures of Lolo


Even games like Battle of Olympus was unique in its own way.

posting two titles isn't much of an elaboration.

i don't know what's worse, the fact that you're being extremely selective from the 800 or so titles released on the nes or you're using exceptions to prove a point... which is just wrong.

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2011, 10:37:20 AM »
There's quite a number of great and creative indies but for every "SpaceChem" or "Knytt Stories", there's a million Bejeweled clones or twinstick shooters. But I think what Damian is talking about, and something that is unarguable, is that the creativity in big-budget HD console games is at an all-time low. While in the NES/SNES/PS1 and even the PS2 days, you'd have big-budget (for their time) games that would try something different.

And yeah we need a new Adventures of Lolo-esque game :(

it's kindof unfair and biased to control for only big budgeted games and control only for the few "creative" titles that there were for the nes especially given that game development in the 80s is more akin to the indie scene today.

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« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2011, 07:04:52 PM »
posting two titles isn't much of an elaboration.

i don't know what's worse, the fact that you're being extremely selective from the 800 or so titles released on the nes or you're using exceptions to prove a point... which is just wrong.


Really, i dont remember many clones on the NES, i guess living in Australia had its ups with low selection of titles.  It would be nice if you guys show me a few more "clone" games.  I always thought that mass clone games started when "Doom" hit and everyone wanted to make the same gameafter NES that is.  The atari 2600 was the grand daddy of clone game.  Like the apple ipod there are 10k games on the thign or something.
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« Reply #146 on: March 16, 2011, 07:30:49 AM »
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Under pressure stats body says it's working on a new digital chart, but have we heard it all before?

Following recent criticism from publisher EA, NPD has once again pledged to introduce digital sales numbers into its monthly US video games sales data.

"We are expanding the number of digital retailers we have relationships with in order to develop a digital POS (point of sale) service," NPD analyst Anita Frazier told Games Industry.

"The goal is to provide our clients with a total POS games tracking service that incorporates the growing digital channel as well as the currently predominant physical format, and to deliver this at the same frequency as we currently do for new physical retail sales (monthly).

"It will become increasingly challenging for the financial community to create proper valuations of companies in the absence of an objective third-party source covering the entire market, and it will be harder for companies to manage their businesses and resources without visibility into all forms of distribution."

Last year EA claimed that digital has grown to such an extent that it now accounts for 40 per cent of overall industry sales – a number that NPD itself corroborates.


The implications of this is that UK and US chart data, which since 2008 has painted a picture of steady decline for the video games industry, is no longer representative of the continued growth that many believe continues to propel the sector forward.

This resulted in a strongly worded attack from EA earlier in the week where the publisher claimed that "using NPD data for video game sales is like measuring music sales and ignoring something called iTunes – we see NPD's data as a misrepresentation of the entire industry".

However, we should't get too excited about these new promises from NPD. As long ago as 2009 NPD was talking up the impending arrival of a digital chart.

It's a similar story on this side of the Atlantic. As far back as 2007 Chart-Track was discussing the need to digital sales numbers.

It looked as if it were about to become a reality in 2009 though come 2011 trade body UKIE is still calling in vein for the crucial support needed from partners such as Xbox Live, the PlayStation Network and Steam if such data is ever to become a possibility.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43520/NPD-makes-new-digital-pledge

I guess nobody wants to give digital data for free,tough luck NPD :P
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« Reply #147 on: March 16, 2011, 08:38:42 AM »
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Under pressure stats body says it's working on a new digital chart, but have we heard it all before?

"The goal is to provide our clients with a total POS games tracking service that incorporates the growing digital channel as well as the currently predominant physical format, and to deliver this at the same frequency as we currently do for new physical retail sales (monthly).

They should hire Evilbore. We already do a fantastic job tracking total POS games.

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« Reply #148 on: March 16, 2011, 11:35:41 AM »
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« Reply #149 on: March 16, 2011, 07:19:34 PM »
EVILBORE POS TRACKING SERVICE MARCH TOP 5

1. Dragon Age 2
2. Killzone 3
3. Homefront
4. Little Big Planet 2
5. Crysis 2
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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #150 on: March 20, 2011, 01:15:00 PM »
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Gametrailers' Invisible Walls podcast had some new numbers, again


1. Wii Just Dance 2 554,552
2. PS3 Marvel vs Capcom 3 398,284
3. 360 Marvel vs Capcom 3 391,913
4. 360 Call of Duty: Black Ops 390,729
5. PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops 288,674
6. PS3 Killzone 3 279,824
7. 360 Bulletstorm 233,365
8. Wii Zumba Fitness: Join the party 226,685
9. Wii Michael Jackson The Experience 226,378
10. 360 NBA 2k11 224,800
11. Wii Mario Sports Mix 199,965
12. 360 Dance Central 183,920
13. 360 Dead Space 2 179,675
14. PS3 NBA 2k11 159,278

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« Reply #151 on: March 20, 2011, 01:16:27 PM »
from Gametrailers

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1. Wii Just Dance 2 554,552
2. PS3 Marvel vs Capcom 3 398,284
3. 360 Marvel vs Capcom 3 391,913
4. 360 Call of Duty: Black Ops 390,729
5. PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops 288,674
6. PS3 Killzone 3 279,824
7. 360 Bulletstorm 233,365
8. Wii Zumba Fitness: Join the party 226,685
9. Wii Michael Jackson The Experience 226,378
10. 360 NBA 2k11 224,800
11. Wii Mario Sports Mix 199,965
12. 360 Dance Central 183,920
13. 360 Dead Space 2 179,675
14. PS3 NBA 2k11 159,278

looks like PS3 owners don't care about Bulletstorm :/

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« Reply #152 on: March 20, 2011, 01:21:22 PM »
looks like PS3 owners don't care about Bulletstorm :/

Well the Gears beta definitely had an effect there but yeah. Pretty much.

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« Reply #153 on: March 20, 2011, 01:41:26 PM »
lol @ xbox 360 getting outsold on MvsC3  :lol :lol :lol
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« Reply #154 on: March 20, 2011, 02:09:10 PM »
Not surprising, the fighting game community's primary system is the PS3. Though if there's one game that could have done better on 360, it's MvC3 because it has a lot of casual appeal.
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« Reply #155 on: March 20, 2011, 06:15:50 PM »
By 300 units on a list that also has Blops, DS2 and Bulletstorm

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« Reply #156 on: March 20, 2011, 07:10:48 PM »
I would have sworn that the Zumba game would have been bigger on 360 because of Kinect.
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« Reply #157 on: March 20, 2011, 10:05:02 PM »
I would have sworn that the Zumba game would have been bigger on 360 because of Kinect.

Install base.
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« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2011, 10:07:49 PM »
I would have sworn that the Zumba game would have been bigger on 360 because of Kinect.
It's MAJESCO. I'm stunned it did THAT well.

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« Reply #159 on: March 21, 2011, 12:25:47 AM »
I would have sworn that the Zumba game would have been bigger on 360 because of Kinect.

Install base.

True, but I figured that it did well with the Kinect launch and Wii was heavier with Just Dance.
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« Reply #160 on: March 21, 2011, 05:15:14 AM »
Why is it that games that have the best ideas are forgotten.  For example UN Squadron(area 88 snes game for japanese players) imo is still the best shooter ot date, why?  Because of its upgrade system, its bonus system, secrets etc.  Why is there no shooter since then like that.

I think that devs are too afraid to try out new ideas.  How about a level-based rpg with a similar setup like un squadron.  Like when you complete a level you get bonus gold for all the equipment you didnt use, you buy your equipment for the next level and repeat.  Chances are that there will never be a game like that, why?  Because devs are too comfortable with the money they get from tried and true gamepaly styles ar sequels.

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« Reply #161 on: March 21, 2011, 06:00:31 AM »



Xbox  family :bow2


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Wii...35 million
PS3...16 million
360...26 million

LBP2...500k

Donkey Kong...2 million

DS2...800k

NSMB DS...9 million



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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #162 on: March 21, 2011, 08:03:15 AM »
People complaining about the lack of originality in games aren't paying enough attention to the handheld sector, particularly the iPhone and (I assume) Android platforms. Original gameplay with good production values are plentiful. Oddly, the biggest "fail" moments for those platforms are when they try to emulate a traditional controller instead of embracing the control methods inherent to the hardware (touch, tilt, etc.).

Speaking of which, when will NPD start including game sales from the various App Stores? It's getting to be like music; tracking CD sales is not going to give anything like a realistic picture.

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« Reply #163 on: March 21, 2011, 09:15:55 AM »
People complaining about the lack of originality in games aren't paying enough attention to the handheld sector, particularly the iPhone and (I assume) Android platforms. Original gameplay with good production values are plentiful. Oddly, the biggest "fail" moments for those platforms are when they try to emulate a traditional controller instead of embracing the control methods inherent to the hardware (touch, tilt, etc.).

Speaking of which, when will NPD start including game sales from the various App Stores? It's getting to be like music; tracking CD sales is not going to give anything like a realistic picture.

When they start paying for it.
Why would MS give Xbox Live data for free to NPD?
NPD sells their data.



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« Reply #164 on: March 21, 2011, 09:19:46 AM »
People complaining about the lack of originality in games aren't paying enough attention to the handheld sector, particularly the iPhone and (I assume) Android platforms. Original gameplay with good production values are plentiful. Oddly, the biggest "fail" moments for those platforms are when they try to emulate a traditional controller instead of embracing the control methods inherent to the hardware (touch, tilt, etc.).

Speaking of which, when will NPD start including game sales from the various App Stores? It's getting to be like music; tracking CD sales is not going to give anything like a realistic picture.

What games are innovative on the iPhone platforms? People love to say how innovative and awesome cellphone games are, but the examples they usually point to me are either copycats of Flash games or console/handheld style games with gimped controls.
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« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2011, 09:54:28 AM »
I really liked flight control and tilt to live, although I'm not sure if they are inspired by anything.  A lot of other stuff is "innovative" but its  something I would expect to unlock in a warioware game as a miningame with very simple mechanics. BUTHEYITWASONLYADOLLAR!
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« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2011, 07:15:24 PM »
People complaining about the lack of originality in games aren't paying enough attention to the handheld sector, particularly the iPhone and (I assume) Android platforms. Original gameplay with good production values are plentiful. Oddly, the biggest "fail" moments for those platforms are when they try to emulate a traditional controller instead of embracing the control methods inherent to the hardware (touch, tilt, etc.).

Speaking of which, when will NPD start including game sales from the various App Stores? It's getting to be like music; tracking CD sales is not going to give anything like a realistic picture.

When they start paying for it.
Why would MS give Xbox Live data for free to NPD?
NPD sells their data.

Why would Microsoft/Sony give up their data even if they were paid for it? There's no reason for them to do so, it's not like there's competition in the retail space on consoles. They're running closed systems with unique content, there's no need to aggregate it for a service provider like there is a retailer.
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« Reply #167 on: March 22, 2011, 12:05:16 AM »
People complaining about the lack of originality in games aren't paying enough attention to the handheld sector, particularly the iPhone and (I assume) Android platforms. Original gameplay with good production values are plentiful. Oddly, the biggest "fail" moments for those platforms are when they try to emulate a traditional controller instead of embracing the control methods inherent to the hardware (touch, tilt, etc.).

Speaking of which, when will NPD start including game sales from the various App Stores? It's getting to be like music; tracking CD sales is not going to give anything like a realistic picture.

What games are innovative on the iPhone platforms? People love to say how innovative and awesome cellphone games are, but the examples they usually point to me are either copycats of Flash games or console/handheld style games with gimped controls.

As far as I'm concerned, Dance Dance Revolution is a controller game with a gimped control scheme by insisting people stamp on a mat instead of pressing buttons. But it does make things more challenging.

I think Flight Control, Angry Birds, Cut the Rope and that ilk are original, professionally done, and polished.

EmCeeGrammar

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #168 on: March 22, 2011, 12:14:01 AM »
Angry Birds and Cut the Rope may be polished, but they are certainly not original.
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Damian79

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #169 on: March 22, 2011, 04:26:16 AM »
So what are the hardcore games that are unique on the ipod?

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maxy

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #171 on: March 22, 2011, 06:14:53 AM »
People complaining about the lack of originality in games aren't paying enough attention to the handheld sector, particularly the iPhone and (I assume) Android platforms. Original gameplay with good production values are plentiful. Oddly, the biggest "fail" moments for those platforms are when they try to emulate a traditional controller instead of embracing the control methods inherent to the hardware (touch, tilt, etc.).

Speaking of which, when will NPD start including game sales from the various App Stores? It's getting to be like music; tracking CD sales is not going to give anything like a realistic picture.

When they start paying for it.
Why would MS give Xbox Live data for free to NPD?
NPD sells their data.

Why would Microsoft/Sony give up their data even if they were paid for it? There's no reason for them to do so, it's not like there's competition in the retail space on consoles. They're running closed systems with unique content, there's no need to aggregate it for a service provider like there is a retailer.

Well,they pay NDP for retail reports and it would benefit them both to make some deal.People that pay for NPD would certainly welcome it.

DD is growing and it will have to be included into sales charts,sooner or later.

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #172 on: March 23, 2011, 06:34:12 AM »
So what are the hardcore games that are unique on the ipod?

By "unique" are you asking about iPod exclusives, or just original? Also, what qualifies as "hardcore" to you?

AdmiralViscen

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Re: February NPD (360 rapes)
« Reply #173 on: March 23, 2011, 07:01:15 AM »
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Fuck this conversation