Author Topic: New 360 update(incompatible consoles will NOT be replaced with 250GB slim) (Read 6529 times)

maxy · « **on:** March 29, 2011, 02:52:44 PM »

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I am happy to announce that we’re doing an Xbox 360 System Update Preview program for our next release, and the opportunity to sign up is now available. We are conducting an open call for US based participants* for a public preview to help us prepare for an updated Xbox 360 disc format. This is an important update as we continually strive to improve our products and we could not do so without the help of our great Xbox community. As part of the preview program, you will receive a copy of Halo: Reach along with other possible rewards.

Much like we did last year, you’ll need to visit the Microsoft Connect site from this link and sign in with your Windows LIVE ID that is connected to your Xbox LIVE Gamertag. Once you complete the survey that is presented to you, the Connect site will provide program related updates and you will receive a mail once the selection process is completed.

A couple of points before you head off to register:

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We’re looking for multiple thousands of participants, so your chances of making it in are good.
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This opportunity is open to Xbox LIVE Members in US region only*.

To avoid any problems, read the survey carefully and double check all the information you provide.
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While both Xbox LIVE Gold and Silver members can sign up, priority will be given to Gold members in the selection process.

*Due to disc distribution limitations, this beta it will be limited to residents of the United States only.

http://majornelson.com/2011/03/29/xbox-360-system-update-preview/

hmm...

Maybe they will use DVD full capacity(8.5GB) or maybe some different higher capacity format(readable by 360 DVD)
Probably just different DVD space utilization...probably
Tough times for pirates ahead

Bold part tells that people will get some new disc to test

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2011, 02:55:02 PM »

Maxy scared... can't wait to get my free copy of Halo

maxy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2011, 02:58:59 PM »

Oh well,it was fun while it lasted

Skyrim=new 360 get

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:08:03 PM »

I registered. We'll see if I get selected.

magus · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:22:26 PM »

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Tough times for pirates ahead

european

MCD · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:23:59 PM »

That's it?

MS sure is boring these days.

choco parfait · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:44:36 PM »

It would be kind of cool if they had come up with a new higher density DVD-9 discs to give them extra space kind of like how GD-ROMs were higher density CDs for the Dreamcast.

Or more likely, a new formatting/file structure to reduce that ~2.0GB something overhead that 360 games have.

Raban · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2011, 05:01:13 PM »

I signed up

chronovore · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:01:51 AM »

Wait, huh? They're going to do a software revision to change what their optical discs can read?

maxy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:30:07 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on March 30, 2011, 01:01:51 AM

Wait, huh? They're going to do a software revision to change what their optical discs can read?

Hacking scene says this

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MS will introduce xgd3 – this will add more ap checks, cvi (content integerity) checks, increase the disc size and adds a new layer for protection issues – all in the 20500 sdk! bring it on!

Apparently everything is detailed in new SDK

Badly translated stuff from unknown sources

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Now you ask what it is exactly? Microsoft will introduce the so-called XGD3 disc formats from around late April / early May.
Currently, the XGD2 (Xbox Game Disc 2) formats in use.
The disc image will always have a fixed size of about 6.8GB net and as such are limited to this maximum limit.
The format offers something XGD3 about 1GB more memory (also net) and reached thus roughly 7.8GB.
This 1GB available to developers of course. However, this new hash checks and anti-piracy measures are used.
This XGD3 disc image (if one can read in the conventional way),
cannot be burned to a commercially available double-layer discs, because they are outside the size capacity.
During pressing of the discs in the press shop are virtually forced validation data to the extreme edges of the disc,
which on the one hand, the verification, on the other hand, as an anti-copying system,
since these sectors are not to describe blanks, not to mention the fact that Brenner these do Außnahmesituationen can only describe.

Microsoft reached so many years, an almost sure way to stem the Kopierbarkein.
This is especially which are now contained to a plague which has become piracy.
Only JTAG owners need not imply any idea of what to do next. Text of flying short shrug their shoulders and jump to the next topic.

For everyone else this means, however, that in future, first no more games can be copied.
(Personally, I welcome this step, the longest was necessary in some form!).

The introduction is so well established, however, also certain that we can expect from almost all programs,
the new version that can deal from now on with the XGD3. On the hardware side the way,
no interference is expected. XGD3 discs will work with all previously released (and future) models of the Xbox 360.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #10 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:33:29 AM »

What, people can't just overburn? A way will be found around this in time.

MCD · « **Reply #11 on:** March 30, 2011, 04:02:16 AM »

Is there really no other new features announced?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #12 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:26:23 AM »

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Microsoft reached so many years, an almost sure way to stem the Kopierbarkein.
This is especially which are now contained to a plague which has become piracy.
Only JTAG owners need not imply any idea of what to do next. Text of flying short shrug their shoulders and jump to the next topic.

'Bout time they stemmed the kopierbarkein! WTF took so long?

chronovore · « **Reply #13 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:07:37 AM »

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Only JTAG owners need not imply any idea of what to do next. Text of flying short shrug their shoulders and jump to the next topic.

maxy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:20:15 AM »

lol,google translate at work

EG Digital foundry said this

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A highly placed development source has confirmed to Digital Foundry that the new disc format being beta tested in a new dashboard upgrade adds 1GB to the storage of Xbox 360 game discs.

Diunx · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:43:55 AM »

Lol pirates will find a way around this before years end,

pirates

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:52:27 AM »

Wait a second, how much space were devs allowed to use before this update?

maxy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:05:41 AM »

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on March 30, 2011, 10:52:27 AM

Wait a second, how much space were devs allowed to use before this update?

6.8 GB...but i saw some games at 6.9 installed

GB as 1024 MB

Crysis 2 is 5.5 GB

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:18:52 AM »

That's disgusting. I haven't been following any of this but what the reason to deny them the extra gigs in the first place?

maxy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:22:24 AM »

Security stuff mostly,some rather large video partition i think

Brehvolution · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:03:51 PM »

It's just gonna make my installs take longer.

Corporal · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:28:09 PM »

Quote from: maxy on March 30, 2011, 02:30:07 AM

Badly translated stuff from unknown sources

Aaaagh. That's from a German source, isn't it. If you want to you can PM me the original text and I'll see what I can do to translate it into something usable. My English language skills may reside on preschooler level, but I bet I can do a better job than fucking Babelfish.

maxy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:50:33 PM »

I think that the source is some warez site(possibly private),somebody used google and copy-pasted it.Anyway there would be no need to translate for me,I can read German.

Sign up is closed

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Update: Thank you for your interest in the Xbox LIVE Update Preview Program! Sorry, at this time we are no longer accepting registrations for the program as we have reached our target audience volume. Please be on the lookout for additional opportunities in the future to participate in Xbox LIVE Update Preview programs. For those of you that have successfully completed registration we will be reaching out to you once we have completed the selection process for participation – within the next 2 weeks. You can check on your status my referring to your Connect Dashboard page and the icon in the upper right corner.
If you see Xbox LIVE Update = Pending then you have successfully registered and now you just need to wait for a follow up mail.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2011, 07:17:33 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on March 30, 2011, 10:50:23 AM

So companies can store more on disks. Great.

Now, how about letting folks install games with multiple disks and having to keep disk one in the drive?

Also, hope the copy of Halo: Reach isn't digital. Would be cool if it was one of the CEs.

They are giving you reach on the new discs to test the update

The Sceneman · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:50:21 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on March 30, 2011, 11:43:38 PM

Oh, cool. Maybe it'll come with the DLC?

I'll eat my hat if they give away the map packs with this thing.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #25 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:26:59 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on March 31, 2011, 12:23:01 AM

Oh and I don't see Xbox LIVE Update = Pending on in the Connect Dashboard so basically I filled out those forms for nothing. Awesome.

Yeah I don't see it on mine either and I applied all most as soon as the post was put up on Major Nelson's blog. I hope that doesn't mean I don't have a chance. Really I entered it just for the free copy of Reach. I never actually bought it. I just went game fly with it for quite awhile.

I assume whatever the test disc is, they would want to test out something with nearly full capacity on it with the new limit.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #26 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:35:51 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on March 31, 2011, 12:29:07 AM

Yeah, I just found it. You have to go into directory and click "View Connect products currently not accepting feedback". It should be there and say pending.

Oh okay. Now I see it. Yeah the instructions were misleading a bit.

maxy · « **Reply #27 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:21:18 PM »

Major Nelson twitter

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If you signed up for the Preview Program last week, you MAY want to keep an eye on your email later today. That is all

Apparently there are two groups

Live update
Disc

Check here
http://connect.microsoft.com/XboxLIVEUpdate/content/content.aspx?ContentID=24564

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #28 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:24:32 PM »

I hope I get in so I can flip that copy of Halo Reach to Amazon.

Wario64 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:29:18 PM »

i got in. LIVE group.

Wario64 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:31:54 PM »

Quote from: The Worst Poster Ever on April 05, 2011, 03:24:32 PM

I hope I get in so I can flip that copy of Halo Reach to Amazon.

it'll be funny if someone gets that copy before this update is official. the new info on the update pretty much confirms that this copy of halo reach is using the new file structure, which probably means it won't be playable on any consoles outside of the preview update for now...unless you're in the DISC group

demi · « **Reply #31 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:38:44 PM »

My status isnt changed... guess I'll have to pirate it...

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #32 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »

YOU are in the Xbox LIVE Update Audience

· Xbox LIVE Update – The updates will be released via the LIVE service and will work with the Halo Reach disc that we are providing.

demi · « **Reply #33 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:55:13 PM »

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Thank you for your interest in the Xbox LIVE Update Preview Program. Regrettably, you were not selected to participate in this round of the Xbox Preview Program. We encourage you to look for future program opportunities and hope that you will register at that time for another chance to participate.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #34 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:57:40 PM »

I guess I really am a better xbot than u

Third · « **Reply #35 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:01:07 PM »

Quote from: demi on April 05, 2011, 03:55:13 PM

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Thank you for your interest in the Xbox LIVE Update Preview Program. Regrettably, you were not selected to participate in this round of the Xbox Preview Program. We encourage you to look for future program opportunities and hope that you will register at that time for another chance to participate.

Owned.

I guess MS doesn't care about your gamerscore.

FatalT · « **Reply #36 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:02:56 PM »

YOU are in the Xbox LIVE Update Audience

· Xbox LIVE Update – The updates will be released via the LIVE service and will work with the Halo Reach disc that we are providing.

Go me!

Wario64 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:12:35 PM »

Quote from: demi on April 05, 2011, 03:55:13 PM

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Thank you for your interest in the Xbox LIVE Update Preview Program. Regrettably, you were not selected to participate in this round of the Xbox Preview Program. We encourage you to look for future program opportunities and hope that you will register at that time for another chance to participate.

all those achievos for nothing.

choco parfait · « **Reply #38 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:43:38 PM »

Due to the nature of this update we will be splitting the Xbox LIVE Update Preview audience into two separate segments. This means we will have some unique scenarios associated to each group so that we can get the test coverage we are seeking for this update. On your console, once it is properly registered into the program you will be able to see the ‘Xbox Beta Channel’ and the first slot will also identify the AUDIENCE you are registered into.

YOU are in the Xbox Disc Update Audience.

Xbox DISC Update – The initial update will be taken directly via the Halo Reach DISC that we are providing.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #39 on:** April 05, 2011, 06:31:09 PM »

I got in on the disc update version also.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #40 on:** April 05, 2011, 09:23:48 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on April 05, 2011, 09:17:03 PM

I'm in the live update but now I'm not sure my address is correct

I think it is but I can't check to make sure.

I haven't gotten an email yet either.

Wario64 · « **Reply #41 on:** April 05, 2011, 11:06:18 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on April 05, 2011, 09:17:03 PM

I'm in the live update but now I'm not sure my address is correct

I think it is but I can't check to make sure.

You can check.

https://connect.microsoft.com/XboxLIVEUpdate/Surveys

click on the completed survey.

Lucretius · « **Reply #42 on:** April 05, 2011, 11:44:14 PM »

Got in the Disc group

Vizzys · « **Reply #43 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:19:16 AM »

site says im in

no email yet though

iconoclast · « **Reply #44 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:20:48 PM »

The beta's out btw

I kinda regret signing up for this actually, since I won't be able to go online with my other console until the update is out for everyone.

Oh well, at least I'm getting a free Halo Reach out of it.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #45 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:23:08 PM »

wait u cant play xbl?

Mupepe · « **Reply #46 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:27:41 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on April 07, 2011, 05:20:48 PM

The beta's out btw

I kinda regret signing up for this actually, since I won't be able to go online with my other console until the update is out for everyone.

Oh well, at least I'm getting a free Halo Reach out of it.

it says i'm in the Live group but i never got an email and i see nothing different on my console. what am i supposed to do?

iconoclast · « **Reply #47 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:29:27 PM »

You can only go online with the console you signed up with, if you apply the update to another console it won't be able to go online until the update is out for everyone. So basically it's a non-issue unless you have more than 1 console that you regularly play on.

Quote from: Mupepe on April 07, 2011, 05:27:41 PM

it says i'm in the Live group but i never got an email and i see nothing different on my console. what am i supposed to do?

I just turned on my Xbox and got prompted for the update. I never got an email either.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #48 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:29:56 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on April 07, 2011, 05:27:41 PM

Quote from: iconoclast on April 07, 2011, 05:20:48 PM
The beta's out btw

I kinda regret signing up for this actually, since I won't be able to go online with my other console until the update is out for everyone.

Oh well, at least I'm getting a free Halo Reach out of it.
it says i'm in the Live group but i never got an email and i see nothing different on my console. what am i supposed to do?

The next time you sign in you may get a prelim update. Nothing is really noticeable or different other than a blade says xbox beta. Nothing is really different.

Mupepe · « **Reply #49 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:28:14 PM »

hm. I logged in and I don't get anything about an update and nothing is different. any ideas?

iconoclast · « **Reply #50 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:38:31 PM »

they're probably rolling it out in waves instead of all at once. you'll get it eventually.

choco parfait · « **Reply #51 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:54:31 PM »

Guess the rest of us have to wait until the disc comes to try out the new update.

Mupepe · « **Reply #52 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:33:45 PM »

i'm so impatient with updates

I'm going to spend every free hour or so turning on my 360 checking to see if I get it until I do get it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #53 on:** April 11, 2011, 10:47:00 AM »

Some people got the Halo disc in today. Appears to come via fedex

Wario64 · « **Reply #54 on:** April 11, 2011, 12:09:50 PM »

comes with no manual and no label except stating it's confidential software and a warning that it won't work on other consoles or some crap

lol at everyone trading their copies in

maxy · « **Reply #55 on:** April 11, 2011, 12:14:40 PM »

It should work on any console,updated with latest dashboard(on disc)

Vizzys · « **Reply #56 on:** April 11, 2011, 01:17:14 PM »

lol ya

i just got the disc too

archie4208 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 11, 2011, 01:49:12 PM »

So much for my master plan to trade this in at Amazon for some store credit. :'(

Beezy · « **Reply #58 on:** April 11, 2011, 01:49:20 PM »

Just got mine from fedex too. The ONE time I buy a Halo game and I end up getting a 2nd copy for free. smh

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #59 on:** April 11, 2011, 03:15:19 PM »

Mine came in. Will be nice to play Halo this evening. Haven't played Reach in awhile.

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Originally Posted by derFeef:
Wow, so this is about selling the Reach disc, instead of the preview program? I am ashamed of gaf right now

Yeah, between this and the Portal 2 thread, I can't believe this forum is so full of freeloaders.

I've lost my ability to tell if GAF posters are just idiots or if they are great satirists.

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Author Topic: New 360 update(incompatible consoles will NOT be replaced with 250GB slim) (Read 6529 times)