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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #600 on: July 20, 2011, 03:45:08 PM »
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Shipments mentioned during conference call:
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood 7.5m (quantity lower than ACII but with better selling price than ACII, result in higher revenue.)
Michael Jackson 4m

Other notes from the conference call:

    AC 3DS is cancelled as was said by the lead writer, decision was made back in Sep 2010. Titles like Imagine and Petz are coming.
    ACR preorders are higher than ACB in the same period last year.
    They expect Wii to be strong over the holidays, specially in casual section.
    Short movies are coming before release of GR and AC.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #601 on: July 20, 2011, 06:46:21 PM »
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http://twitter.com/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608

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it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved :-( if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #602 on: July 20, 2011, 07:07:16 PM »
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #603 on: July 20, 2011, 07:40:32 PM »
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almost reaching "tired old gamer" level here

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #604 on: July 20, 2011, 08:39:17 PM »
The 3DS, like the Wii, has no games. I'm still baffled Nintendo has so many first and second party teams apparently doing nothing. The 3DS is going to start selling once the price goes down and games start arriving, but it seems like the handheld market is shifting away from gaming devices.

Perhaps Nintendo should have just thrown out a sleek handheld that offered a store NES/SNES/N64 downloads, alongside a host of new content being released monthly. .99 for a new, mini Zelda game featuring a handful of dungeons. Get Capcom on board with some downloadable Contra, Megaman, SF, etc stuff. Full wifi including text message support to other Nintendo devices.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #605 on: July 20, 2011, 09:02:10 PM »
AssCree3ds was cancelled in 2010 before the 3ds came out.  I think this is a first.  Massive withdrawal of western support for a nintendo system BEFORE it releases.



wow, you don't have any spin for that?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #606 on: July 20, 2011, 09:12:00 PM »
The 3DS will never be anywhere near the DS.  The biggest reason is that it simply doesn't offer a good value.  In fact, it's probably the most egregious price gouging Nintendo has ever committed and hung themselves on their own hubris in the meantime.  Smartphones are almost ubiquitous at this point and will become moreso in the future -- they're not going away.  You can buy a 16 GB iPhone 4 for less than a 3DS yet the iPhone 4 offers almost infinitely more value.  I can see smartphone games progressing in valuable content in the future once the huge cash grabs of cheap shit has somewhat settled.  In other words, Nintendo can't get away with charging huge amounts of money for a 3DS and Nintendo Dogs.  The value just isn't there.

Another huge gaffe is banking on 3D.  I finally got around to playing one of those things and it almost gave me a headache, even if you held it the right way.  I turned down the slider and while it looks decent enough, with Vita on the horizon, again the 3DS isn't deserving of the MSRP that it is commanding.  Nintendo should drop it to $199 or lower if the Vita turns out to be anything other than a bomb.  Pokeyman and Mario are big enough games but that doesn't translate to exploding 3DS sales (see: N64 and Gamecube) as a result.  I guess we'll find out but my opinion is that with smartphones and a successfully marketed Vita, the 3DS will barely have a niche to call their own.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #607 on: July 20, 2011, 09:27:18 PM »
AssCree3ds was cancelled in 2010 before the 3ds came out.  I think this is a first.  Massive withdrawal of western support for a nintendo system BEFORE it releases.



wow, you don't have any spin for that?

Oh will you stfu you poser.

I find the vitriol surrounding the Megaman "crisis" amusing.  Some euro rep makes an off the cuff remark and now self-entitled nerds are damning the whole company.  I'm seriously starting to think a majority of "hardcore" gamers are mentally ill.  Megaman ain't popular no more, I enjoyed megaman 9 as much as the next guy but it may be time to let it go.  Considering the multitude of sidescrolling platformer shootermerbobs past and future I'm sure they'll get their fix if without an artstyle that cribs astroboy.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #608 on: July 20, 2011, 10:20:09 PM »
I wanted my animu megaman dungeon exploring though
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« Reply #609 on: July 21, 2011, 12:35:34 AM »
Eh, its much more apparent with Megaman, almost to the subject matter.  Dr Light, Wily and Megaman are very obvious counterparts to uh those astro boy dudes whose names I can't remember. 

I just saying theres a multitude of games out there ranging from Earthworm Jim to Metal Slug that... wait they don't make those anymore.  Ummmmmm derp?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #610 on: July 21, 2011, 12:45:14 AM »
mega man 9 was relatively popular ???
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #611 on: July 21, 2011, 12:52:14 AM »
I'm seriously starting to think a majority of "hardcore" gamers are mentally ill. 

Only starting to?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #612 on: July 21, 2011, 01:04:06 AM »
mega man 9 was relatively popular ???
Megaman 9 and 10 were arguably the cheapest sequels ever made and I have no doubt they were successful.  But if you start getting into something with production values and retail distribution  then outlook not so good.  I think Megaman from here on out is digital distribution and Smash Bros 4 dlc :teehee

I'm seriously starting to think a majority of "hardcore" gamers are mentally ill. 

Only starting to?

Well if you listen to most people talk about saaaay politics, the same irrational thought patterns show up.  I don't want to damn everyone just yet.  Except for the pc gamers. They're the first against the wall.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #613 on: July 21, 2011, 01:09:51 AM »
MM9 was successful, MM10 though...ehhhhhh
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #614 on: July 21, 2011, 02:01:41 AM »
In my defense IGAvania and Megaman and Metal Slug and etc. had a good long run.  It doesn't bother me too much if a dead series leaves behind an awesomely replayable legacy.

Anyways, I'm sure in ten years creatively bankrupt publishers will resort to banking on the nostalgia tards for the upteenth time.  Maybe Himuro can quit smoking and live to see it happen thrice over.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #615 on: July 21, 2011, 02:24:18 AM »
EmCee, we really like you dude but we just can't see any value in the 3DS. It's undepowered, overpriced, ugly, has little to no worthwile games (no Zelda, Mario, Metroid) and feels almost last-gen despite the next-gen 3D effect. That's it. There's no underlying Nintendo hate. Vita would also get smashed here if it offered the same.

Wha?  I ain't trying to convince ya'll to spend hundreds of dollars on anything.  I haven't convinced myself to get a 3ds at this point.  But I do hate hypocricy and erroneous arguments and cognitive dissonance.  So when people want to pretend that the graphical output of the vita is somehow going to match the average consumer's value expectation in a way the 3ds couldn't, I call foul.  It's a selfish way of interpreting the world to only validate what I or you personally enjoy. 

This last gen proved most people like control gimmicks and affordable disposable entertaiment moreso than normal mapping, hd resolutions, or what have you.  With that in mind, the vita is another 250 dollar waggle touchscreen portable with what I assume will be $40+ games as well.  Setting aside our preferences, the market potential for these devices similarly comes down to whether a machine that is primarily a games machine can carve a sustainable niche. 

Its one thing to anticipate the Vita/WiiU/Nextbox etc.  Its quite another to proclaim success or failure depending on "reason" extrapolated from your worldwishing.

That being said I AM a fanboy and WILL get irrationally defensive from time to time.  If anyone has a portfolio with enough mass market appeal to prop a system up, its nintendo. I'm sure if they decide to drop software prices things will improve for them.  Now, does that ever happen..... hmmm.  There's precedent with stuff like Endless Ocean (30ish) and Picross3d (20ish), so I BELIEVE.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #616 on: July 21, 2011, 02:41:13 AM »
I'm still not sure what practical use there is to maintaining an icon if its just .... there, underperforming.  Like Marvel had decades to expand their subject matter and appeal to new demographics but instead find another square inch of the dead horse to flog.  I think I'm rambling. Tired.

edit:  I don't think megaman is done either, for the record.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #617 on: July 21, 2011, 02:56:51 AM »
You said they provide constant reminders of credibility.  I'm not sure (my problem in understanding, not faulting your argument) what the practical application of this is.  I may need to continue this argument in the morning.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #618 on: July 21, 2011, 03:25:33 AM »
It adds to a company's brand.  Particularly in creative areas, that's important. 

Again I ask: Superman and Wonder Woman are not big moneymakers.  Should their books be canceled and the IP buried?

I mean, you're a Nintendo fan, this should be 101 stuff for you. 

I try to avoid 'should' when I can.  Hmmmm, am I in charge of DC?  Is my company publicly traded (I really don't know in the case of DC).  Do I have better alternatives?

Hypothetically speaking, I would probably sell the properties, try to develop graphic novel series in a multitude of genres outside of superheroes and mandate a recurring character with my name and likeness be written into every conceivable batman work til the day I die.  This is probably because I don't understand the value of Wonderwoman and think the green lanter is an uninteristing op piece of shit character. :x

Nintendo isn't really an apt comparison.  They do a fine job maintaining key brands and those that fall by the wayside make good smash bros content... oh wait, I might get it now... maybe.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #619 on: July 21, 2011, 03:27:14 AM »
In my defense IGAvania and Megaman and Metal Slug and etc. had a good long run.  It doesn't bother me too much if a dead series leaves behind an awesomely replayable legacy.

Anyways, I'm sure in ten years creatively bankrupt publishers will resort to banking on the nostalgia tards for the upteenth time.  Maybe Himuro can quit smoking and live to see it happen thrice over.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #620 on: July 21, 2011, 03:28:46 AM »
In my defense IGAvania and Megaman and Metal Slug and etc. had a good long run.  It doesn't bother me too much if a dead series leaves behind an awesomely replayable legacy.

Anyways, I'm sure in ten years creatively bankrupt publishers will resort to banking on the nostalgia tards for the upteenth time.  Maybe Himuro can quit smoking and live to see it happen thrice over.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #621 on: July 21, 2011, 03:38:52 AM »
Well have you "quit" NOW?

btw Camel BLUES. :bow

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #622 on: July 21, 2011, 06:08:58 AM »
monster tale was made by the guys who made harry hatsworth

oh and by the way,anybody else find it strange that this weird game gets the greenlight

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

but legends 3 get axed? i guess the budget for that is minuscule?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #623 on: July 21, 2011, 10:31:26 AM »
At this point 3DS feels like some DS iteration,nothing wrong with that in principle but DS is like "7-8 years old hardware" that sold like crazy,meaning that anyone interested has already bought one.

Yes it's much more powerful than DS but competition still runs circles around it---and competition is strong,advancing rapidly,targeting the same consumers that made DS popular--the same tactics that made DS popular is basically worthless today.


If by some miracle Nintendo produces the next Brain Training,Nintendo Dogs---how long will it take to copy them and put that for few $$$ on some smartphone,tablet?
I give it month or two if it's not already there buried under tons of shit.

And then you will have $40 vs $5 debate for price sensitive consumers...and Iwata will cry again

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #624 on: July 21, 2011, 10:39:42 AM »
I meant the next "Brain Training"---something that will make masses go crazy
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #625 on: July 21, 2011, 03:17:44 PM »
I didn't realize that Capcom has now apparently become a popular fan hate object, like Square Enix has been for the past few years. Are there any big third-party Japanese developers/publishers that people still like?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #626 on: July 21, 2011, 03:17:55 PM »
I wonder if 3ds fails Nintendo will bring back "Game Boy".
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #627 on: July 21, 2011, 03:19:01 PM »
I didn't realize that Capcom has now apparently become a popular fan hate object, like Square Enix has been for the past few years. Are there any big third-party Japanese developers/publishers that people still like?

Atlus! Sega's a great publisher. Platinum Games, Grasshopper Manufacture.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #628 on: July 21, 2011, 03:20:26 PM »
I was thinking more in terms of publishers with "star" internal development teams, and the big names that everyone remembers from the 80s and 90s, but I guess Atlus sort of counts.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #629 on: July 21, 2011, 03:24:37 PM »
The big names from 80''s/90's? Naw, everyone hates them these days.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #630 on: July 21, 2011, 03:33:39 PM »


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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #631 on: July 21, 2011, 03:52:22 PM »
Viewtiful Joe and Mega Man died the true death. :(
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #632 on: July 21, 2011, 04:35:26 PM »
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=163829

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capcom clearly kicked the dog,because he looked like rush :teehee

(the thing was already debunked at the capcom unity sites BUT CLEARLY CAPCOM IS EVIL AND THAT'S ONLY A COVER!!1!)

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #633 on: July 21, 2011, 04:36:39 PM »
Reported as fake.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #634 on: July 21, 2011, 05:14:34 PM »
Some dude claims he has video.

This is getting better and better.


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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #636 on: July 25, 2011, 05:11:42 AM »
i blame nintendo

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #637 on: July 25, 2011, 06:56:20 AM »
In other news,



Week 27

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01 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
02 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
03 (03) [NDS] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
04 (06) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)
05 (08) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
06 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
07 (04) [WII] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
08 (__) [WII] Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
09 (__) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
10 (05) [WII] Wii Play Motion (Nintendo)

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #638 on: July 25, 2011, 06:59:58 AM »
what? ???
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #639 on: July 25, 2011, 07:04:13 AM »
go buy some games
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #640 on: July 25, 2011, 07:25:25 AM »
In other news,

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01 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
02 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
03 (03) [NDS] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
04 (06) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)
05 (08) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
06 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
07 (04) [WII] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
08 (__) [WII] Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
09 (__) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
10 (05) [WII] Wii Play Motion (Nintendo)

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #641 on: July 25, 2011, 09:29:30 AM »
uh, that looks better than most PSP games, actually.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #642 on: July 25, 2011, 01:07:17 PM »
uh, that looks better than most PSP games, actually.

3DS deserves plenty of hate, but while you some titles that look like PSP games, there are others that look noticeably better.  I broke out my PSP after having not touched it for months the other day, and games did not look as good as I remembered them after a large amount of SSF4/Mercs/DOA play time on 3DS.

The PSP resolution still looks a lot better though.   :lol
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #643 on: July 25, 2011, 02:35:21 PM »
uh, that looks better than most PSP games, actually.

It better, the PSP was released in 2005

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #644 on: July 25, 2011, 02:38:04 PM »
Finally a 3DS game that looks on par with best PSP titles:

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:bow 3DS :bow2

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Cannot even match 2004 hardware :lol

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #645 on: July 25, 2011, 02:45:08 PM »
Borys, ds cannot render a game like that. That's more like psp level.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #646 on: July 25, 2011, 05:59:47 PM »
if that looks like nintendo 64 to you, then you must be po...

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #647 on: July 25, 2011, 06:03:22 PM »
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #648 on: July 25, 2011, 06:52:07 PM »
I've got some free time, so I bought a 3DS and Zelda from amazon warehouse (so I can beat the game within 30 days and return it!) 

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #649 on: July 25, 2011, 06:59:54 PM »
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #650 on: July 25, 2011, 07:08:10 PM »
the Acekard 2i still works with this thing after a firmware update, right?

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« Reply #651 on: July 25, 2011, 07:14:26 PM »
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #652 on: July 25, 2011, 07:29:28 PM »
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #653 on: July 26, 2011, 12:29:01 AM »
Did people forget what ds games look like or something equally egregious?

I want some of you ninnys to compare the '3d' gba games to the 3d ds games.  Then compare those to the 3d games on 3ds.  Pretty large jumps within that context.  A less fallacious comparison would be 2d stuff cus then we coild kvetch about resolution and pixel density.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #654 on: July 26, 2011, 01:09:59 AM »
To be serious: it looks good for a DS game. DS was the successor to GBA. 3DS, the successor to the DS, should be on a whole another level.

It is pretty sad that even smartphones have games looking better than that.

What are you on about Nintendo never had the state fo the art technology graphically on any fo their handhelds.  GB was BLACK & WHITE.  GBA was still inferior to the Neo Geo Pocket.  The DS in comparison to the PSP are you kidding?

Nintendo's biggest failing this time is the poor battery life that ALL 3 of them had good amount of in comparison to the competition.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #655 on: July 26, 2011, 01:17:38 AM »
To be serious: it looks good for a DS game. DS was the successor to GBA. 3DS, the successor to the DS, should be on a whole another level.

It is pretty sad that even smartphones have games looking better than that.

you are so weird

do you also think final fantasy 10 looks good for a ps1 game?

to be honest, Borys has no grounds for any handheld graphical comparisons. He has been wanting a PSP for years but can't afford one. But he also travels to Milan for business? Only in Poland.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #656 on: July 26, 2011, 02:28:25 AM »
:heart Wonderswan
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #657 on: July 26, 2011, 03:29:24 AM »
Oh my bad i meant the pc engine GT.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #658 on: July 27, 2011, 03:29:53 AM »
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According to GoNintendo, a French representative of the Japanese publisher, said the game will not be releasing in 2011 in the US or UK.  Konami have now stated: “We have not announced MGS 3DS North American shipdate yet,” So we shall have to wait and see if this unfortunate rumour is true.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #659 on: July 27, 2011, 05:31:22 AM »
bubububu Nintendo gave third parties some free space and they didn't deliver
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