Author Topic: 3DS Discussion Thread (Read 164419 times)

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #780 on:** November 03, 2011, 04:30:54 AM »

Well apparently you can't afford them since you're planning to steal them.

Like buying a car but not having money for the gas. What's the point?

Himu · « **Reply #781 on:** November 03, 2011, 04:35:57 AM »

I don't plan on buying a 3ds any time soon. I was just inquiring. I also fully plan on buying 3ds games, I was asking about pirating ds games that are old, old, old and the publisher won't see much money from me to begin with.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #782 on:** November 03, 2011, 04:41:45 AM »

Does it matter how much money if any the publisher will see from you? No.

Buying second hand goods is an entirely normal thing, you buy someone's stuff. That person sells his belongings so he can use the money to buy other goods, maybe food. You are breaking this cycle by stealing.

Would you steal a car just because you couldn't afford a new one and your justification was that GM or Ford wouldn't get any pennies if you bought it second hand anyway? That's not a good argument.

Himu · « **Reply #783 on:** November 03, 2011, 04:43:54 AM »

jesus christ

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #784 on:** November 03, 2011, 04:45:46 AM »

I know you don't like to think about these things, but I also know you are a moral person, so maybe you should.

Living within your means is not easy.

maxy · « **Reply #785 on:** November 03, 2011, 05:07:31 AM »

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Resident Evil Revelations going to cost $50 in the US (compared to the standard, already overpriced cost of $40).

Gloomy future for dedicated handhelds in the West.

"It will sell like shit anyway so why not charge $10 more....$$$

"

Trent Dole · « **Reply #786 on:** November 05, 2011, 12:22:47 AM »

...so apparently there's dumps of a few 3DS games out there but no flash cards can play them yet

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #787 on:** November 05, 2011, 03:03:07 PM »

See, that is why I think DCharlie is crazy, 2/3 of those things NEVER HAPPENED.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #788 on:** November 05, 2011, 04:03:47 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 03, 2011, 03:10:40 AM

since the dollar is a worthless piece of shit these days, i've decided to start using the 'daytona' as a form of currency.

resident evil is 5 daytonas, which i don't need to tell you is a bit crazy

this is an excellent idea - when establishing a new currency it is important to tie it to something of intrinsic, external, and objective value. not like that fiat currency Square keeps churning out

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #789 on:** November 06, 2011, 05:30:06 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on November 05, 2011, 04:03:47 PM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 03, 2011, 03:10:40 AM
since the dollar is a worthless piece of shit these days, i've decided to start using the 'daytona' as a form of currency.

resident evil is 5 daytonas, which i don't need to tell you is a bit crazy

this is an excellent idea - when establishing a new currency it is important to tie it to something of intrinsic, external, and objective value. not like that fiat currency Square keeps churning out

what is the current bitcoin-to-daytona exchange rate; i.e. how many grams of meth can i get for a daytona

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #790 on:** November 06, 2011, 07:06:26 PM »

DCharlie, substantiate your claims. Like, its the internet, you can link something somewhere. Otherwise this is more geezer rambling. I'm not partial to that.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #791 on:** November 06, 2011, 07:27:02 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 06, 2011, 05:30:06 PM

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on November 05, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 03, 2011, 03:10:40 AM
since the dollar is a worthless piece of shit these days, i've decided to start using the 'daytona' as a form of currency.

resident evil is 5 daytonas, which i don't need to tell you is a bit crazy

this is an excellent idea - when establishing a new currency it is important to tie it to something of intrinsic, external, and objective value. not like that fiat currency Square keeps churning out

what is the current bitcoin-to-daytona exchange rate; i.e. how many grams of meth can i get for a daytona

Prole diagnosed with terminal cancer, reverse engineers Daytona USA keygen, sells keys on NeoGAF to support his family. Coming this Fall to AMC: ROLLING START

Damian79 · « **Reply #792 on:** November 06, 2011, 11:38:44 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on November 06, 2011, 05:24:09 PM

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See, that is why I think DCharlie is crazy, 2/3 of those things NEVER HAPPENED.

every single thing i posted happened. Take it to the bank (unless you are talking about the "capcom are amazing" and testicle comment?)

The exclusivity deals happened
Early price cut dictated by capcom insistance on a user base level for MH4
Premium of $10 (?) or 1000+ yen in Japan - already there
Get out clause in exclusivity contract based on installed base - yup. What do you think happened to the PS3 version of MH3 and why ?

Capcom are actually pushing Nintendo into a situation where they might not fail - they'd have happily sailed along with the $250 3DS. I wish Capcom hadn't bothered. Let HMS Stinkyshitflaps sink!

There were never any contracts with Sony they were always free to do what they want with that franchise.

The userbase level is probably something ALL devs asked for.

I dont get why the premium is a big deal, it is easy to see that RE has more work done on it than any other 3ds game and 4gb carts would cost like $5.

What clause, there was never any contract. They have stated the more powerful vita would have costed more to make as the reason for the move. I read that in an interview somewhere but i cant find it.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #793 on:** November 07, 2011, 12:35:42 AM »

I don't doubt there's a lot of truth to that, but there was more than MonHun pushing a global price drop. Nintendo actually likes to sell their own games too, and have panicking iDevice-obsessed investors to placate - they weren't going to do that at the sluggish hardware sales rate the 3DS was oozing along at.

Damian79 · « **Reply #794 on:** November 07, 2011, 02:10:53 AM »

Thats true. I really dont know why they did a 3ds version instead of a PSP version. I guess the fact that the psp isnt a big deal outside japan is an issue?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #795 on:** November 08, 2011, 11:40:26 AM »

PSP is stelling ok in Europe I think according to those latest numbers.

Games don't sell in Europe though.

magus · « **Reply #796 on:** November 09, 2011, 11:10:18 AM »

i'm not a sales guy but i know this thread has frequent sales data and i tought you guys would appreciate

seems super mario 3D land sold 343,492 Unit
and 3DS has sold 145,271 unit

http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111108015/

good? bad?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #797 on:** November 09, 2011, 11:18:04 AM »

Quote from: magus on November 09, 2011, 11:10:18 AM

i'm not a sales guy but i know this thread has frequent sales data and i tought you guys would appreciate

seems super mario 3D land sold 343,492 Unit
and 3DS has sold 145,271 unit

http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111108015/

good? bad?

Not exactly comparable, but New Super Mario Bros. DS debuted with 900k.

Edit: Super Mario Galaxy debuted with 260k.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #798 on:** November 09, 2011, 01:13:01 PM »

The 3DS sold twice as much as all the other consoles combined so, yeah, I'd say that's pretty good.

maxy · « **Reply #799 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:17:22 AM »

Nintendo seems to be fine in Japan,future is bright.

US,not so bright
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/77424/Is-it-Game-Over-for-Nintendo-DS-and-Sony-PSP

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The chart displays the share of U.S. revenue generated for portable games from 2009 to 2011. Note that we project November and December for 2011, based on their ratio to the first 10 months of the year, as observed in 2009 and 2010. Starting on the left, for 2009, we calculate $2.7 billion in total U.S. portable game revenue. For 2010 and 2011, we estimate $2.5 billion and $3.3 billion, respectively.

The most striking trend is that iOS and Android games have tripled their market share from roughly 20% in 2009 to nearly 60% in just two years. Simultaneously, Nintendo, the once dominant player, has been crushed down to owning about one-third of market in 2011, from having controlled more than two-thirds in 2009. Combined, iOS and Android game revenue delivered $500 million, $800 million and $1.9 billion over 2009, 2010 and 2011, respectively.

As reported by Flurry earlier this year, the freemium game model is revolutionizing and expanding revenue on mobile devices. And just as smartphone game revenue has climbed aggressively, Nintendo DS and Sony PSP revenue has dropped precipitously. Over the last three years, Nintendo and Sony posted a combined $2.2 billion, $1.6 billion and $1.4 billion for 2009, 2010 and 2011, respectively.

Within the portable category, an abundance of digitally distributed free and $0.99 games, available on hardware, that is both comparably priced and more powerful than traditional portable game devices, better appeals to many consumers. As a result, the days of paying $25, or more, for a cartridge at a retail store may soon end. Further, the installed base of iOS and Android devices has not only reached critical mass, but also continues to grow at unprecedented rates. In their latest public statements regarding installed base, Apple and Google reported a total of 250 million iOS devices and 190 million Android devices activated, respectively.

Due in part to its demise in the portable game category, Nintendo is facing its first fiscal year loss since the company began reporting profits in 1981. Combined with slumping Wii sales, Nintendo is indeed struggling, even with its powerful stable of original IP led by Mario Brothers, and despite the fact that the exchange rate between the Japanese Yen and U.S. dollar is currently in its favor.

Equally concerning for Nintendo is that the battle for video game dominance is entering the living room, with entries by both Apple and Google into the TV category. Ostensibly, this new class of hardware will create a new platform upon which the digital distribution model of apps will be overlaid. Now, in addition to tablet form-factor competition, the console game industry, which currently pits Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo against each other, will additionally face competition from Apple and Google TV initiatives. Beyond 2011, if Nintendo continues to face financial hardship, it may be forced to consider difficult choices such as divesting its hardware business and distributing its content, for the first time, across non-proprietary platforms.

doomed or not,that is the question

$2 billion spent on ios&android games...big business

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #800 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:20:24 AM »

Lol I bet it's going that way in Europe too.

Basicly handhelds will be for weaboos only in the future.

Phone gaming

I just bought a cool Diablo clone for 2 euro, 10+ hours of gameplay

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #801 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:36:11 AM »

Come at me bro

You just mad cause weaboo shit is losing out.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #802 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:52:03 AM »

I wish you would take me seriously for once

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #803 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:59:14 AM »

Which picture is that?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #804 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:02:14 AM »

Oh that

Think the only reason I didn't get an HR speech is cause I already resigned.

maxy · « **Reply #805 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:03:08 AM »

maxy · « **Reply #806 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:10:16 AM »

i was referring to the Kosma picture,not some lame statistics analysis

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #807 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:28:33 AM »

There's no 3DS on the chart?

maxy · « **Reply #808 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:40:10 AM »

do i have to draw everything to you?
you answered that already

Article title tells a lot, numbers are not important

One question,do you really read all that stuff?
I would go insane

Himu · « **Reply #809 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:49:47 AM »

YOU MEAN THAT THE 3DS RELEASING DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IOS SELLING MORE THAN NINTENDO AND SONY

Simple. Math.

DS has less big games for it this year because pubs are gearing for 3ds. ds is on its last legs, mostly occupied by niche games. psp has been on its last legs in the west for ages now. Couple this with the release of the 3ds -- new systems rarely ever bring over a huge audience immediately -- and you have less sales.

That chart is skewed because OF COURSE ios is going to sell more in a year when ds games have less frequency and 3ds games aren't hot enough to incite interest (of course, this is without taking into account that fuckin mario just came out for 3ds).

Let it sink in that I -- as in, ME -- had to make this apparent to you. Then hold yourself in the shower in fetal position and suck your thumb. We're done here.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #810 on:** November 10, 2011, 06:31:53 AM »

http://www.flurry.com/about-us/index.html

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Flurry increases the size and value of mobile application audiences, already helping more than 50,000 companies in over 100,000 applications across iOS, Android, BlackBerry and Windows Phone platforms. Flurry has built the world's leading mobile application analytics and data-powered advertising platform, with more ground breaking services in development.

Of course they're going to say that mobile revenue is increasing.

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Flurry Analytics places a lightweight agent into an application, so that performance data are tracked, logged and reported back for analysis. This information is confidential and available only to the developer to analyze in aggregate. Individual user data is not identifiable. Developers are provided a wealth of metrics around usage behavior, any custom event they choose to track and technical information about the device, firmware version, carrier and more.

And of course they push how big mobile gaming is

http://blog.flurry.com/bid/57219/Mobile-Social-Gamers-The-New-Mass-Market-Powerhouse

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The Consumer behind Social Games: a Marketer’s Dream Target Audience

Just trying to peddle their wares by promoting that console gaming is dying and mobile gaming isn't, and it's full of wealthy females to take money from.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #811 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:10:32 AM »

The Holiday season will probably be really big for Nintendo, as it always is, whereas it probably won't have as big an impact for iOS.

Am I doing it right, Oscar?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #812 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:27:08 AM »

I got nervous! I didn't know what I was saying!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #813 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:32:05 AM »

Sorry, Coach.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #814 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:43:24 AM »

Better sit this one out Rumbler.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #815 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:50:34 AM »

*training montage*

maxy · « **Reply #816 on:** November 10, 2011, 10:22:19 AM »

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are they though? I mean - specifically gearing for 3DS?

I've heard that Rockstar is making GTA for 3DS and Wii U.I'm not a reliable source though.

Does that count?

Trent Dole · « **Reply #817 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:18:23 PM »

I heard you liek Mudkips.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #818 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:54:07 PM »

Holiday season will be huge for iOS - people getting iPads+Touch as gifts, and probably getting iTunes cards too. Before lunch they could have spend $20 on the store.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #819 on:** November 10, 2011, 06:26:11 PM »

Super Mario 3D Land IN 3-D looks kinda cool. A bit on the short side and not worth buying a console for, but one more thing to nudge folks towards this thing. I'm at least waiting until they release one with the second circle pad and a decent battery life.

tiesto · « **Reply #820 on:** November 10, 2011, 07:48:05 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on November 10, 2011, 04:36:11 AM

Come at me bro

You just mad cause weaboo shit is losing out.

Yup, sucks to see good, mechanically complex and fun games lose out to fart apps, inaccurate touchscreen-controlled ripoffs of flash games, and busted physics simulators like Angry Birds.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #821 on:** November 10, 2011, 08:21:47 PM »

Super Mario 3d Land is 3d Mario for beginners during the first run. Beating that gives you a remixed single player of the 8 worlds with a better challenge. Its gonna hafta wait because I just recently had to pay an obscene amount for a USED Metroid Trilogy and I think I only have enough budget left for Zelda. Prime 1 is worth it though.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #822 on:** November 10, 2011, 08:57:58 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 10, 2011, 08:15:33 PM

Quote from: Trent Dole on November 10, 2011, 06:26:11 PM
Super Mario 3D Land IN 3-D looks kinda cool. A bit on the short side and not worth buying a console for, but one more thing to nudge folks towards this thing. I'm at least waiting until they release one with the second circle pad and a decent battery life.

it's not nearly as short as it initially appears.

Ah right, I'm forgetting about all the post game shit.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #823 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:24:20 PM »

I'm pretty hyped about Mario. I was unfortunate enough to skip the Wii games and only sample them at family gatherings. So it'd be nice to finally have a solid Mario title on the go. I don't mind easy portable games these days; mobile gaming has softened me.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #824 on:** November 11, 2011, 02:47:40 AM »

Dude, you need to play the Galaxies. They're amazing.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #825 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:45:57 AM »

Oh, I played them. Just not finish and in optimal conditions. I blame my lack of enthusiasm and commitment on the Wii's lack of HD support. Imma play them all on Dolphin in the future.

bork · « **Reply #826 on:** November 13, 2011, 01:21:35 PM »

Wow, Super Mario 3D Land really is

GOOD! Makes fantastic use of 3D and is a blast to play. This should have been a launch title for the system.

MCD · « **Reply #827 on:** November 13, 2011, 02:16:21 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on November 11, 2011, 04:45:57 AM

Oh, I played them. Just not finish and in optimal conditions. I blame my lack of enthusiasm and commitment on the Wii's lack of HD support. Imma play them all on Dolphin in the future.

I hate how Galaxy 1 framerate dips to 40fps in the hub world but other than that, it's a pretty.

magus · « **Reply #828 on:** November 15, 2011, 05:36:55 AM »

http://hardcoregaming101.net/shinobi/shinobi7.htm

pilonv1 · « **Reply #829 on:** November 15, 2011, 06:29:21 AM »

I think it got a stealth release in Australia a few weeks ago

cool breeze · « **Reply #830 on:** November 16, 2011, 02:19:20 AM »

playing mario 3ds and not thinking about the analog slider made me think about just how bad the PSP one is. I'd take analog stick any day but after 4 or 5 revisions, I don't get why Sony never made the nub adequate.

Himu · « **Reply #831 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:37:52 AM »

Quote from: magus on November 15, 2011, 05:36:55 AM

http://hardcoregaming101.net/shinobi/shinobi7.htm

omg

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #832 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:01:58 AM »

Quote from: magus on November 15, 2011, 05:36:55 AM

http://hardcoregaming101.net/shinobi/shinobi7.htm

will buy whenever i get a 3ds on the cheap

bork · « **Reply #833 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:59:45 PM »

Agreed. Super Mario 3D Land is the 3DS' much-needed "system seller." A+ game all the way...real talk.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #834 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:26:19 PM »

more like c+ game

and the 3d is useless, wtf brochachos

Bebpo · « **Reply #835 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:25:34 PM »

I like Mario 3DS a lot. Very fun game that mixes ideas from all the others. Kind of like Katamari Forever, best of.

But I agree with the above statement on the 3d. I don't understand everyone saying "The 3d is finally good in this game!". The 3d looks the same as it does in every other 3ds game and doesn't add a whole lot. It's kind of a neat look, but if I switch it off and go 2d it looks just as good. Could take it or leave it. The only part where it's stuck out to me has been when standing vertically high and jumping down.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #836 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:45:54 PM »

the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

bork · « **Reply #837 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:47:15 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 02:45:54 PM

the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

The level length is about the same as the old 2D Mario titles...perfect for a portable game. Made getting all the stars and hitting the top of the flag pole not feel like a chore if I needed to replay a level.

Things get more challenging when you clear what is essentially the easy mode and get to the real game in the special stages.

Tasty · « **Reply #838 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:55:48 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 02:45:54 PM

the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

TBH I always found that annoying about SMB3. It's why I like SMW more, longer levels.

But short levels suit the handheld more.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #839 on:** November 23, 2011, 03:07:53 PM »

i'm not in the business of validating nintendo or adjusting my cognitive biases to accomdate their shitty design imperatives. smb3 at least had twice (or more) levels than sml3d, and it had actual CHALLENGE and SECRETS and shit. sml3d is short and bland, like it wanted to be an iphone mario game, or rather like nintendo decided to duplicate the trivial levels and challenges of the average phone/tablet game. that's the theme of this new phone-oriented handheld game market: PERFUNCTORY GAMING. fuck that.

and who cares about the unlockable content? if half the game is crap, it's still a dubious game.

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Author Topic: 3DS Discussion Thread (Read 164419 times)