Author Topic: 3DS Discussion Thread (Read 165267 times)

cool breeze · « **Reply #960 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:03:39 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 27, 2011, 10:59:56 AM

There's a lot of homage to Shinobi 3 in it, but it's its own game. It starts being dick-hard early on which is nice. Combat system is good, haven't quite figured out all the ins and outs of the scoring system yet.

is the combat like Shinobi 3 where you're tossing kunai or doing a dope dash slash? or is it like a griptonite game where it's almost 2D Devil May Cry? either would be good

Himu · « **Reply #961 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:05:15 AM »

Quote from: Count Drugula The Satanic on November 27, 2011, 11:02:34 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on November 27, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
SMG2 has tighter, more concise levels, hardly ever repeating itself like SMG did. Also, horizontal gravity levels, I said goddamn.

Also it at least had some challenge to it, SMG was piss easy.

Really? I thought SMG2 was easier. You counting green stars?

Himu · « **Reply #962 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:07:55 AM »

I should get to getting green stars. I think that's why most people love SMG2 more than SMG? Is that where the best of the game lies? I didn't think SMG2 got great until like 60-70 stars in.

cool breeze · « **Reply #963 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:18:25 AM »

no, that's Mario 3DS where the post-game content is worthwhile.

the green stars are simply hidden things to collect throughout old levels. finding and grabbing them is easy and only slightly more challenging than the main game, in that it's still not challenging. It's a lot of "dive off this edge to hit the star, or fall and die" stuff. you do them all to unlock the last challenge stage, which is pretty difficult.

Both galaxy 2 and Mario 3DS have a single challenging level hidden behind all these requirements. Both levels are bittersweet because it shows how the Mario games could be challenging, but it's always only one level.

Himu · « **Reply #964 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:21:17 AM »

But people said it's the post-game where SMG2 really shines.

Himu · « **Reply #965 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:25:59 AM »

Didn't say you specifically said it. I remember on gaf people did say it, though.

"I'm 80 stars in, when does this game get great?" "Post-game!"

cool breeze · « **Reply #966 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:27:36 AM »

you're going through the same levels (literally) for a collectible previously unavailable. it's nothing special.

Mario 3DS remixes the main game levels. Are you sure you're not getting them confused?

Himu · « **Reply #967 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:43:42 AM »

Nope.

cool breeze · « **Reply #968 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:57:41 AM »

I clicked on that link before you edited out

those people are more down on the green stars than I was!

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #969 on:** November 27, 2011, 12:05:07 PM »

I'm going through the Remixed, or Special, 8 worlds right now, and they are top quality. They're not even laid out in a conventional "post-game content" kind of way, especially since you're not replaying any levels. I mean they pack 40 new levels. Two thirds of those feel almost brand new. I think some level assets didn't even show up in the main campaign.

Writing them off as padding or fluff is idiotic, imo. I have seen the light.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #970 on:** November 27, 2011, 12:19:19 PM »

For realz.

Edit: posting from a phone on a moving vehicle, don't mind the jumbled writing.

bork · « **Reply #971 on:** November 27, 2011, 12:46:49 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 27, 2011, 10:59:56 AM

There's a lot of homage to Shinobi 3 in it, but it's its own game. It starts being dick-hard early on which is nice. Combat system is good, haven't quite figured out all the ins and outs of the scoring system yet.

I need to go pick this up.

MCD · « **Reply #972 on:** November 27, 2011, 01:51:24 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on November 27, 2011, 12:19:19 PM

For realz.

Edit: posting from a phone on a moving vehicle, don't mind the jumbled writing.

You better not be the one drivin', bro.

Tasty · « **Reply #973 on:** November 27, 2011, 02:22:23 PM »

Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 04:06:32 AM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2011, 11:26:14 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?

Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock. Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.

Gold Leaf is the only one I'd give you, Dreadnaught is pretty different from Battlerock.

SMG2 also recycled an entire effing level from SM64 without even bothering to recolor and heavily tweak it like Gold Leaf. I mean I liked the level, but if we're pointing the finger at recycled content...

Himu · « **Reply #974 on:** November 27, 2011, 09:18:56 PM »

Did they carry over any 3d Shinobi-isms (ie. brutal violence, in-depth combo system;etc)

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #975 on:** November 27, 2011, 09:24:28 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on November 27, 2011, 02:22:23 PM

Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 04:06:32 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2011, 11:26:14 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?

Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock. Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.

Gold Leaf is the only one I'd give you, Dreadnaught is pretty different from Battlerock.

SMG2 also recycled an entire effing level from SM64 without even bothering to recolor and heavily tweak it like Gold Leaf. I mean I liked the level, but if we're pointing the finger at recycled content...

Don't be stupid.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #976 on:** November 27, 2011, 09:26:35 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on November 26, 2011, 05:32:15 PM

People of the Bore: Please buy MK7.

I just realized that I dislike the majority of ninthings found elsewhere; hyper-sensitivity and sale-whoredom irreparably ruined them. So I really, really don't wanna play against them. So again, please. Buy the fucking game.

I'm not into Mario [activity] anymore, sorry.

Himu · « **Reply #977 on:** November 27, 2011, 09:36:01 PM »

Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 09:24:28 PM

Quote from: Andrex on November 27, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 04:06:32 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2011, 11:26:14 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?

Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock. Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.

Gold Leaf is the only one I'd give you, Dreadnaught is pretty different from Battlerock.

SMG2 also recycled an entire effing level from SM64 without even bothering to recolor and heavily tweak it like Gold Leaf. I mean I liked the level, but if we're pointing the finger at recycled content...

Don't be stupid.

But he's right

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #978 on:** November 27, 2011, 10:08:16 PM »

Shut up.

Tasty · « **Reply #979 on:** November 27, 2011, 11:04:49 PM »

Himubell said I'm right, time to jump off a bridge. $:-\$

Gospel · « **Reply #980 on:** November 28, 2011, 03:44:04 PM »

I hope there's going to be a Bore community for Mario Kart 7.

Ninja · « **Reply #981 on:** November 28, 2011, 04:01:09 PM »

So, I got that Zelda 3DS. It looks pretty nice. That's all the good things I have to say about the 3DS so far. I need to get Mario 3D Land, though.

bork · « **Reply #982 on:** November 28, 2011, 05:49:23 PM »

Quote from: Gospel on November 28, 2011, 03:44:04 PM

I hope there's going to be a Bore community for Mario Kart 7.

There's barely a Bore community for the 3DS as-is.

I'm gonna get Mario Kart for sure but don't know how long I'll end up playing it for. Plus I may end up being a sucker and splurge on importing a Vita in December.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #983 on:** November 28, 2011, 08:17:39 PM »

SSF4 is $9 on Amazon as a Cyber Monday sale. Go go go

Bebpo · « **Reply #984 on:** November 28, 2011, 08:23:26 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 28, 2011, 08:19:54 AM

Hahaha, I think I'm in love with this game. It's such a dick. Ran out of lives? Want to continue? S'fine, you can start again from the beginning of the stage. The twenty-minute long stage.

Eh, that doesn't sound fun. Maybe if I knew the game was by bayonetta or DMC team so I knew it'd be fun to replay levels and would always be fair; but Griptonite hasn't really shown they can do much besides make fun metroidvania psuedo-castles to explore. The combat in SD was pretty janky.

Bebpo · « **Reply #985 on:** November 28, 2011, 09:22:59 PM »

Bitch please, I destroy the PS2 shinobi game and games like DMC/NG/Bayonetta on their highest difficulties. Same with the PS2 Contras.

That being said, I love challenging tough as nails games from top of the line developers who can program them just right. Games that are hard because B/C-tier devs can't develop tight gameplay are frustrating and not worth my time. I know you love love love Griptonite, but I really wasn't impressed with them on the DS Spiderman. Yeah it was nice to have a metroidvania game that didn't suck, but that was about the extent of it. They are still B/C-tier devs to me.

Bebpo · « **Reply #986 on:** November 28, 2011, 09:36:34 PM »

Well that's the other thing, I don't like the 2d Shinobi games much. They're ok, but kind of boring to me. The PS2 3d one otoh was amazing and one of the best action games I've played. Even Kunoichi was alright. Was hoping the DS Shinobi would play like those.

cool breeze · « **Reply #987 on:** November 28, 2011, 09:50:57 PM »

I'm fine with hard games unless it feels like poorly designed, cheap attempt at "old skool" difficulty (Contra 4)

oh, I didn't see that Contra 4 comparison lol. Everything else said sounds exciting, though! I thought Contra 4 was pretty rank.

cool breeze · « **Reply #988 on:** November 28, 2011, 10:25:01 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 28, 2011, 10:01:12 PM

This game is Ninja Gaiden cheap. When you get hit, you fall backwards, and they use that to the fullest extent, haha. I'm actually going to have to be very careful who I recommend this to. It's a great game, but it is hard in that particular way that make most modern gamers cry foul.

Ninja Gaiden cheap can be pretty cheap, but not annoying. My problem with Contra 4 is that it never felt like my fault, or at least something I could anticipate. It was annoying.

But is it really as hard as Ninja Gaiden? the old Shinobi games were never that hard

Bebpo · « **Reply #989 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:15:00 PM »

I didn't think Contra 4 was too hard. It definitely seemed easier than the other Contras; it had a lot of trial & error for sure though.

I find game where you get hit and stuck in a hit frame FAR tougher than any modern "hard" game. The original Castlevanias and Shinobis drive me crazy. Same with NES Ninja Gaiden and the more annoying megaman stages. I'm so glad we've gotten past the hitstun in game design.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #990 on:** November 29, 2011, 07:32:54 PM »

Please tell me this is a photoshop

pilonv1 · « **Reply #991 on:** November 29, 2011, 07:58:34 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #992 on:** November 29, 2011, 08:08:56 PM »

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-mario-kart-7/724422

Holy shit, I wasn't hyped at all for MK7 but this review is all kinds of glowing. This game is a beast!

Tasty · « **Reply #993 on:** November 29, 2011, 10:04:42 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 29, 2011, 08:16:41 PM

Hahah whereas the 1up review kind of deflated even the minimal hype I had. Gotta buy it to play with the kids anyway, but it sounds like the tracks are dishwater dull and the water/hang-gliding is as superficial as it looks.

Lol, GT said the exact opposite. Like exactly. "Best courses and course list in the entire series" and "Gliding adds quite a bit of strategy."

Who to believe...

Oblivion · « **Reply #994 on:** November 29, 2011, 10:57:55 PM »

So, I've been sorta wondering about this for a while, but were the rumors about the 3DS being more powerful than the Wii a load of bunk?

cool breeze · « **Reply #995 on:** November 29, 2011, 11:12:45 PM »

yeah, if you look at Resident Evil 3DS, it looks nice because it has all these effects going on. And then you take a closer look and everything is blocky, poly starved, and muddy.

Oblivion · « **Reply #996 on:** November 29, 2011, 11:28:54 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 29, 2011, 11:07:46 PM

it's not really that cut and dry

in terms of polygon chucking ability, the wii is better

the 3ds has shaders the wii doesn't, though, and that can make the games look better than wii games if they use them well. it also has a little more ram, but neither system is swimming in it.

i think if both systems were used to their strengths, a 3ds game is probably going to look a little better.

Ah, okay. Grazie.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #997 on:** November 30, 2011, 12:12:44 AM »

I thought japanese devs had no idea how to use shaders properly. or am I stuck in 2007?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #998 on:** November 30, 2011, 12:50:17 AM »

The only ones I've seen running in person are Pilotwings and Street Fighter so I have no idea.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #999 on:** December 01, 2011, 02:44:05 PM »

oh boy a commercial with Justin Bieber! I hate Justin Bieber but this is the smartest business move Nintendo could make. There's no way the Vita will survive this onslaught. The NPD results will force Sony to cancel the system altogether. I can't wait to see Ninty's large, bulbous NPD numbers as a result of this. Their quarterly reports and gross adjusted net income stock options will be so glorious. The general public will see this and know who the top dog is in the house-- you just can't lie with gross adjusted net income stock options and considering their profit margins on the inflation forecasts, everyone will understand that the 3DS just prints money. Also, I saw 10 people by 3DS systems at my gamestop midnight opening.
And I hear that new Super Mario game is good too. Go Ninty!

Himu · « **Reply #1000 on:** December 01, 2011, 04:22:44 PM »

I can't trust GT after their Saints Row: The Third review.

magus · « **Reply #1001 on:** December 01, 2011, 07:19:19 PM »

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #1002 on:** December 01, 2011, 07:37:50 PM »

Oh, this shit again, you'd think they'd learn

spoiler (click to show/hide)

That's a joke, Nintendo never does

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iconoclast · « **Reply #1003 on:** December 01, 2011, 07:53:02 PM »

True successor to the DS version

Trent Dole · « **Reply #1004 on:** December 01, 2011, 08:40:46 PM »

is not a bug, is feature!
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Trent Dole · « **Reply #1005 on:** December 01, 2011, 09:08:43 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 01, 2011, 09:05:03 PM

it's cuz people bitched that snaking was gone in mk wii.

"wut snaking is a skill, y you take skill out of mario kart"

That's fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1006 on:** December 01, 2011, 09:10:20 PM »

snaking is fine in moderation. if the game wasn't so damn slow on straights, it wouldn't be needed. reviews seem to be down on the underwater sequences for being even slower, but gliding looks good.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1007 on:** December 01, 2011, 11:00:38 PM »

Well if you bought it from a fast food chain it may not have real beef in it

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1008 on:** December 01, 2011, 11:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 01, 2011, 09:05:03 PM

it's cuz people bitched that snaking was gone in mk wii.

"wut snaking is a skill, y you take skill out of mario kart"

snaking is a skill in as much as double-tapping to dash in a fighting game is a "skill"

cool breeze · « **Reply #1009 on:** December 01, 2011, 11:53:34 PM »

How much Nintendo cares about 'skill': characters randomly trip in Smash Bros Brawl

(I should point out that I like Smash Bros games. Not hating on the series. Only on the serious fighting game cred people think it has.)

Tasty · « **Reply #1010 on:** December 02, 2011, 01:31:59 AM »

I don't care one way about snaking or the other, but that looks harder to pull off than MKDS. $:-\$ And it'll be required for online.

Ehhh... my poor thumbs...

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1011 on:** December 02, 2011, 09:13:49 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on December 01, 2011, 11:53:34 PM

How much Nintendo cares about 'skill': characters randomly trip in Smash Bros Brawl

(I should point out that I like Smash Bros games. Not hating on the series. Only on the serious fighting game cred people think it has.)

ay bro, no such thing as cheap. I wish characters randomly tripped in umvc3, mid combo even. I like ninty's philosophy--If you're doing too well, you should be punished. no gamer left behind. occupy effort and skill

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1012 on:** December 02, 2011, 09:15:03 AM »

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1013 on:** December 02, 2011, 10:39:52 AM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 02, 2011, 09:13:49 AM

Quote from: Linkzg on December 01, 2011, 11:53:34 PM
How much Nintendo cares about 'skill': characters randomly trip in Smash Bros Brawl

(I should point out that I like Smash Bros games. Not hating on the series. Only on the serious fighting game cred people think it has.)

ay bro, no such thing as cheap. I wish characters randomly tripped in umvc3, mid combo even. I like ninty's philosophy--If you're doing too well, you should be punished. no gamer left behind. occupy effort and skill

Miyamoto Bergeron

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1014 on:** December 03, 2011, 06:00:33 AM »

Oscar-san, or anyone in the know, how's Devil Survivor? I was thinking about picking up Overclocked the other day.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1015 on:** December 03, 2011, 07:54:12 AM »

Yeah, I like SMT and SRPGs, so I'm sold.

magus · « **Reply #1016 on:** December 04, 2011, 06:18:07 PM »

Mario Kart 7 minutes of testing

Trent Dole · « **Reply #1017 on:** December 04, 2011, 06:46:56 PM »

Quote from: magus on December 04, 2011, 06:18:07 PM

Mario Kart 7 minutes of testing

What am I seeing here that makes it worth being subjected to that uber gaytarded song exactly?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1018 on:** December 04, 2011, 06:49:27 PM »

The track is glitched; If you purposely fall off at a certain point you'll respawn in the opposite direction of the track, thus skipping about half a lap.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #1019 on:** December 04, 2011, 06:54:34 PM »

It's okay, they can just patc--

Oh wait

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