Author Topic: 3DS Discussion Thread (Read 164708 times)

Oblivion · « **Reply #1440 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:04:50 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 22, 2012, 11:12:06 AM

I'm always shocked when I look at Luigi's Mansion's North American sales. Somehow I always seem to forget how fucking crazy it sold. Some fun comparisons:

Number of titles per platform that sold better in NA than Luigi's Mansion:

Microsoft Fam-fam
Xbox: 2

Wiki says LM sold around 2.1 million units in NA. It really can't be that 2 games (both of which I'm assuming are Halo) cracked that number in NA? I mean, not even Forza? No other major third party game?

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Gamecube: 4

I'm guessing:

-SSBM
-Mario Kart: DD
-Super Mario Sunshine
-I wanna say....Wind Waker?

This is both impressive and utterly, utterly depressing.

Furthermore, LM got 348k in Japan, and although no European numbers are present, it's reasonable to think that including that, the game would crack 3 million WW. I never thought it'd be even close to spitting distance to Mario Sunshine (around 5-6 mil).

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1441 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:17:15 PM »

sunshien bombed

demi · « **Reply #1442 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:21:45 PM »

Gamecube

I picked up Evolution Worlds and 007 Everything or Nothing recently. Can't stop wont stop

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1443 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:24:06 PM »

lolmfw you dont pirate gamecube games

demi · « **Reply #1444 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:27:08 PM »

Piracy free since '03

Tasty · « **Reply #1445 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:35:56 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on April 22, 2012, 09:02:20 PM

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Can't wait for Vita owners to spin that Portable 3rd HD is SO MUCH BETTER than 3G and probably 4. One of my Sony friends I keep on a leash is convinced it's SO MUCH BETTER because you can transfer save files or something? Great bullet point for the back of the box there.

3rd P -is- better than the Wii version - it gets rid of the shitty underwater stages whilst adding extras including monsters, extra weapons, and getting rid of the fluff of the village/harvesting down into a quicker, tighter package. 3G is arguably "better" than 3rd P as it looks better, the Z-axis helps people like me who play as great swords men, the warping Nagura is ZOMG, but it still retains the bloat of the Wii version. But it's issue is that there's no player copy over from Tri or 3rd P which basically forces established players to repeat X hundred hours of content. I've started 3G but i'm less than thrilled having to repeat play but hey - i realise that this is what it is.

the P games are absolutely honed for portables - 3G is an outsourced port of the Wii game and it shows - the tutorials are wordy and overly long which are not suited to a portable. That said - i appreciate this is a quickly thrown together effort to help establish MH on the Nintendo platform

Anyways - if you do not understand why going between a regular and a G revision requires the ability to import your save file then you have absolutely no business in monster hunter discussion threads. This isn't just you, but a whole slew of overly excited Nintendo fans who know absolutely FUCK ALL about the series and are trying to position themselves as experts because a OMG SALES FAP FAP FAP series is coming there way. I can tell you now - there's people excited for 3G who are going to absolutely fucking HATE it when they finally play it.

Umm, I've cut my teeth on Tri as I've mentioned in my post. I'm a relative series newbie, but as Oscar said, more Nintendo fans have turned out for Monster Hunter than Sony fans.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1446 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:56:47 PM »

So what you're saying is US Monster Hunter Tri G is an up-ressed WiiU launch title? Makes sense. Take advantage of launch, the controller suits the series well, dual analog, probably a more serviceable online service. Maybe crosscompatibility with the 3ds game.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1447 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:06:09 PM »

Your post was edited after panicking. Quick someone post on gaf that industry sources have revealed what's been really going on.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #1448 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:22:50 PM »

Only thing I can garner from the MH posts is that Capcom sure does make a lot of iterations of the same game. Also dunno why anyone should give a fuck when PSO2 is coming to the master race this summer.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1449 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:28:14 PM »

Probably gonna be a free to play scam. Enjoy your descent.

Takao · « **Reply #1450 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:38:48 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 10:28:14 PM

Probably gonna be a free to play scam. Enjoy your descent.

I'd buy a bunch of shit just to give SEGA money. I fear the Sammy chopping block.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1451 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:42:51 PM »

Sega really needs a good kick in the ass imo. Not death or nothing. I'm still stupified that when NSMBwii sold 20 million copies they didn't seriously consider doing a 2d sonic NOT OUTSOURCED TO DIMPS AKJALJGKLAJG;KLAJF;LKAJG;LKAJG;LKAJG;KLAJ

Tasty · « **Reply #1452 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:42:57 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on April 22, 2012, 09:45:37 PM

I'll say it again - you want to guaranteed play MH? Buy Nintendo hardware.

Fine by me?

I think you really are becoming senile.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #1453 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:56:15 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 10:28:14 PM

Probably gonna be a free to play scam. Enjoy your descent.

Hah, there's no probably about it. Want your own room? You can have one for a month for cheap! Or you can buy a perma-room for even moar! Most of the for sale shit is cosmetic nonsense, but I'm sure they'll have uber-weaponry and such up before to long.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Still better than MH though since that only appears on archaic tech

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Takao · « **Reply #1454 on:** April 22, 2012, 11:11:51 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 10:42:51 PM

Sega really needs a good kick in the ass imo. Not death or nothing. I'm still stupified that when NSMBwii sold 20 million copies they didn't seriously consider doing a 2d sonic NOT OUTSOURCED TO DIMPS AKJALJGKLAJG;KLAJF;LKAJG;LKAJG;LKAJG;KLAJ

Do you trust internal SEGA to make a good 2D Sonic game? They've struggled making decent 3D Sonic games for many years.

Tasty · « **Reply #1455 on:** April 23, 2012, 12:53:30 AM »

AC is the best relaxation sim this side of Endless Ocean but even I've grown tired with it. Put 100s of hours into the original and WW, but have put probably less than 10 into CF. Maybe I'm just growing up.

Either that or I don't have time to waste like I used to... part of me is hoping the 3DS one isn't any good because then I can write off not playing it easily, otherwise I'll feel some mad guilt.

Tasty · « **Reply #1456 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:06:01 AM »

TBH I don't even know if I'd buy 3G without online. Without it, it's kinda "what's the point"ish. Love going online with GAFers in Tri.

That reminds me, I should rally some of them again, it's been a couple weeks since our last hunt.

Momo · « **Reply #1457 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:09:46 AM »

Phantasy Star Online and Monster Hunter are my two most played games ever. It's looking good to be a fan of these two series going forward, just wish Capcom would cancel MonHun 4 and put it on a console where it belongs, but eh can't have everything.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #1458 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:13:47 AM »

Quote from: Momo on April 23, 2012, 01:09:46 AM

Phantasy Star Online and Monster Hunter are my two most played games ever. It's looking good to be a fan of these two series going forward, just wish Capcom would cancel MonHun 4 and put it on a console where it belongs, but eh can't have everything.

Closest thing to current gen MH on the horizon is Dragon's Dogma but that's single player only. Since it's kind of a thinly veiled MH beta maybe next year, when the current machines will be on their way to being old tech...

Momo · « **Reply #1459 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:16:17 AM »

Yeah the Dragons Dogma SP design seems silly in the face of MonHuns success and actually having NPCs following you around.

Momo · « **Reply #1460 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:24:16 AM »

There hasnt been a WiiU version announced $:-\$

Wouldnt mind if they move MH4 to WiiU, the first iteration of a new MonHun has always been a console game $:-\$

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1461 on:** April 24, 2012, 03:52:56 PM »

Apparently Might Switch Force is getting a free update with 5 more levels. Still kind of paltry but its a nice gesture. I wouldn't mind paying for dlc in the long run.

Takao · « **Reply #1462 on:** April 24, 2012, 05:02:55 PM »

Capcom ain't going to make an exclusive HD Monster Hunter. That shit will be everywhere. I don't think they're that big of bros with Nintendo.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1463 on:** April 24, 2012, 07:02:35 PM »

I finally finished Mario 3DS Special World mostly (because world 8 is stupid with its coin payment required for every goddamn stage; I got all coins on normal world, but fuck all coins on some of these special world stages) because of Segata's nagging months ago.

Special World is like 50% good levels, and 50% stupid shitty levels. A lot of the shadow mario x timer stages are terrible. All the stages where the camera is at some weird isometric or top-down angle making judging jump landings difficult are pretty bad too. And a lot of the levels are just the same but with shadow mario or 30 second timer. I dunno, I liked when they actually got creative like when you fought the Koopa Kids consecutively and there was that one with the spikes alternating in the environment. And some of the new stages were good challenge and good fun.

I still think it's the best game on 3DS a great Mario title. But special world was overrated. Main game was great and consistent in its greatness. Can't really think of any bad levels in the main world. Whereas special world is a hodgepodge of great levels and crappy levels.

I also decided to stop playing games in 3D on the 3DS after KH. The 3D is neat but it's also distracting and has annoying visual glitches like ghosting and glare that frustrate me to no end when it's on. The screen is just too cheap and shitty for what they're trying to do. So I'm playing everything in 2d now and treating it like a standard handheld.

Damian79 · « **Reply #1464 on:** April 24, 2012, 10:26:29 PM »

Was SMT Soul Hackers any good? Its coming to 3DS so i want to knwo if i should buy it.

Damian79 · « **Reply #1465 on:** April 24, 2012, 10:40:56 PM »

Nice, i am glad i didnt get DS2 now. It looked so crappy.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #1466 on:** April 25, 2012, 12:30:34 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on April 24, 2012, 03:52:56 PM

Apparently Might Switch Force is getting a free update with 5 more levels. Still kind of paltry but its a nice gesture. I wouldn't mind paying for dlc in the long run.

Free DLC for a small 3rd party game is a good thing to see - suggests that Nintendo isn't fucking devs up the ass if they want to update their dl game like MS. ofc, it's really the least they can do at this point.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1467 on:** April 25, 2012, 12:33:18 AM »

Awesome news about the Soul Hacker game. I've always wanted to play it.

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on April 24, 2012, 03:52:56 PM

Apparently Might Switch Force is getting a free update with 5 more levels. Still kind of paltry but its a nice gesture. I wouldn't mind paying for dlc in the long run.

Ok, this is awesome too. 5 levels MST can be completed in a few minutes, but it's still welcomed. Keep them coming, please.

Takao · « **Reply #1468 on:** May 12, 2012, 02:56:17 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on May 12, 2012, 01:04:40 PM

So any idea if Mario Tennis is gonna be any good?

To me it looks like Camelot ported a lot of content from the GC game (I don't know if that's the case). I don't understand how they couldn't do an adventure mode. Hot Shots Tennis on PSP had one...

cool breeze · « **Reply #1469 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:00:52 PM »

It depends on what you're looking for. Like Takao said, single player is barebones tennis. There are mini-games but no rpg/adventure mode from older handheld mario tennis game or hot shots tennis. Most of the complaints are about how limited the content is. But if you just want to enjoying random matches against the computer or multiplayer (supposedly it's online and single cart multiplayer) it might be worth it.

Takao · « **Reply #1470 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:03:55 PM »

Didn't they blame not having an RPG mode on the fact they included Miis? Miis are fucking gross and not an excuse to skimp out on content.

Takao · « **Reply #1471 on:** May 16, 2012, 04:01:31 PM »

Mario Tennis Defense Force Assemble!

wrowa · « **Reply #1472 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:38:25 AM »

Mario Tennis is quite frustrating. It makes the impression that it's less like Power Tennis and more like Tennis 64, which is a very good thing. On the other hand, there's a reason why the handheld entries had an adventure mode while the console games didn't: The games are most fun in local multiplayer and local multiplayer on a handheld is too much of a hassle and kinda meh for this kind of game.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1473 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:00:17 AM »

It does have online multiplayer, which is a first for a mario tennis game. It just sounds like a Ridge Racer Vita situation. I considered buying that regardless of its scarce content, just to enjoy racing and online, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth it. Mario Tennis is giving me the same feeling.

Tasty · « **Reply #1474 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:34:18 AM »

Never bought a Mario sports game, and I haven't regretted that yet.

Takao · « **Reply #1475 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:53:04 AM »

I bought the baseball one on Wii that Scamco made.

I haven't played it in years.

Takao · « **Reply #1476 on:** May 17, 2012, 12:10:42 PM »

I loved Hot Shots Tennis on PSP and was interested in this. But Hot Shots had an adventure/RPG-lite mode. It didn't have an online mode, but it was $20.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1477 on:** May 17, 2012, 12:17:26 PM »

The baseball ones are the second worst after basketball on the DS.

The soccer games are the best, followed by the tennis games. Golf games are good too but Hot Shots Golf is an all around better series. Hot Shots Tennis isn't quite there yet; the tennis doesn't feel as good as Mario Tennis, or even the Prince of Tennis games on GBA/DS.

Tasty · « **Reply #1478 on:** May 17, 2012, 01:35:21 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 17, 2012, 12:09:31 PM

Have you ever bought *any* sports game, Andrex?

I got Wii Sports obviously. Was gonna get Resort for a while but never did.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1479 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:47:37 PM »

I kinda wish after Nintendo was successful with wii party that they would stop plastering mario on everything, but I didn't get my way in the end. I'm not really in love with mario anything other than the platformers.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1480 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:24:21 PM »

I would rather have something *neutral* to go with my cherished nintendo game mechanics as opposed to rpg with mario, tennis with mario, racing with mario.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #1481 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:36:49 PM »

If the core gameplay is good, it doesn't matter to me. I had a lot of fun with Mario Tennis on the N64.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #1482 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:22:25 AM »

Just got the Rayman Origins demo

After playing the proper 1080p version, it's like having someone poop in your mouth

Trent Dole · « **Reply #1483 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:21:42 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on May 20, 2012, 01:22:25 AM

it's like having someone poop in your mouth

Takao · « **Reply #1484 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:22:48 AM »

After playing the demo for the Vita one the 3DS version is like having someone poop in your mouth.

The game feels sluggish, the audio's awful, and the screen is hiding how nice the graphics are.

Tasty · « **Reply #1485 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:37:47 AM »

And Ancel wonders why Nintards pee on his masterpiece.

Takao · « **Reply #1486 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:22:14 AM »

It's cute you think the 3DS/Vita ports actually had influence from Ancel and weren't just sent off to Ubisoft Shanghai.

Tasty · « **Reply #1487 on:** May 20, 2012, 10:44:47 AM »

Take my posts more srsly dcharles.

Ancel's rubbed me the wrong way since hid absolute insistence Origins wasn't influenced by NSMNW. I mean it's fine if it is but let's call a spade a spade. Suuuuure the whole bubble mechanic for dead characters doesn't have any connection. I believe you Ancel.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1488 on:** May 20, 2012, 11:33:38 AM »

I remember when Sony fanatics said NSMB Wii copied from LittleBigPlanet. If we believe all the conspiracies, that puts Nintendo's in the middle of this corporate centipede.

but yeah, probably influenced by NSMB or Yoshi's Island. Don't know why anyone cares.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 20, 2012, 03:57:34 AM

Keeping it zoomed out is such an odd choice.

Oh well, typical Ubisoft handheld effort.

yeah, when I tried the demo I kept looking for a way to zoom in. Vita version lets you pinch to zoom in. I had trouble with everything zoomed out on the Vita screen and it's more of a problem on the 3DS.

It's still great if you ignored the other versions, like Bayonetta on the PS3. The gameplay is all there.

Tasty · « **Reply #1489 on:** May 20, 2012, 12:52:23 PM »

I remember Sonytards saying SMG ripped off spherical worlds from Ratchet and Clank.

Never mind Yoshi's Island did it in 1995.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1490 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:19:33 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on May 20, 2012, 02:37:47 AM

And Ancel wonders why Nintards pee on his masterpiece.

Quote from: Andrex on May 20, 2012, 10:44:47 AM

Take my posts more srsly dcharles.

Ancel's rubbed me the wrong way since hid absolute insistence Origins wasn't influenced by NSMNW. I mean it's fine if it is but let's call a spade a spade. Suuuuure the whole bubble mechanic for dead characters doesn't have any connection. I believe you Ancel.

So a bad port and dodging one question, probably for PR reasons or due to the French blood coursing through him, warrants shitting on the entire project from conception, to art-style, mechanics, and level design? And they wonder why they're often labeled as manchildren.

I haven't been to many Rayman discussions, but I was shocked to see so many ninthings shitting on it when all this time I thought it was a GAF darling, that even if it didn't click with you'd have something nice to say about it. I don't remember who said "they can't bear the idea that a western studio unaffiliated with Nintendo has produced a legit and competent platformer, one that tips the scale ever so slightly in the West platformers vs. East platformers debate," but I'm beginning to believe him.

Either way, it's a really sad state.

Tasty · « **Reply #1491 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:25:25 PM »

Who said I shit on the entire project? I'm actually quite positive on the game as a whole and have no intention to buy the 3DS version when the PC version exists. Don't read into things that aren't there.

Here's Ancel's full quote:

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For Rayman Origins, I guess you had to look at New Super Mario Bros. Wii?

As far as I'm concerned, not at all! I will say something awful, but I do not play Mario, I don't like to slip, I do not like this inertia, I do not like that you can not slap! I think the game is fabulous, I understand people love it, but it is not my cup of tea. Me, I was rather into Ghosts'n Goblins, Heart of Darkness, Another World, games where the narrative was important. Beyond that, it's the controls of Mario that are very interesting, but which I have trouble to get used to. I feel like I can see too much through the game mechanics ("la ficelle ludique" - kinda hard to translate), even if it's a game that works, it is absorbing, obviously.

As for LittleBigPlanet, I've played very little because I found the physics and controls rather tricky. Yet the game designers who worked with me did not stop to tell me: "You should look at Donkey Kong ! You should see Mario ! " There is always a form of influence. In fact, we all face the same issues. In a multiplayer 2D game, what should happen when a player dies? How does he comes back in the game? Should we keep him waiting? We didn't want to force the player to wait, so we gave him a little control. These are issues that come back.

Totally dodging the question there.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1492 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:27:55 PM »

Oh, I wasn't referring to you, because I know you know better, but I was referring to a recent overly negative GAF thread (or two). I thought you were providing the answers to what was causing the odd behavior (Re: "nintards pee on Ancel").

Quote from: Andrex on May 20, 2012, 01:25:25 PM

Totally dodging the question there.

I've adblocked the

emoticon because of your misuse and abuse. I hope you're happy.

Takao · « **Reply #1493 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:02:25 PM »

he said he played lbp why do you guys think he copied that junk mario game and not superior british platformer

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1494 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:07:04 PM »

I gag every time someone praises LBP's platforming, ever jokingly.

Takao · « **Reply #1495 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:13:41 PM »

I think the hate the floaty LBP physics gets is overblown, but it's an acquired taste for sure.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1496 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:25:14 PM »

I disagree, I think it's much deserved.

Especially after they released the second game without taking it into account or remedying the first's biggest problem in a reasonable way ("gravity tool" was janky as shit), one that almost every customer and journalist noticed and criticized. They cited LBP1 compatibility as an excuse, a game that was rendered obsolete when they overhauled the editor and added all the new and "exciting" gadgets to the sequel. In the end that excuse that held them from updating the game in ways that mattered was nothing but a back-cover bullet-point feature, as far as I'm concerned.

It pissed me off to no end and made me questions the developer. Fucking stubborn hippies. Oh, and don't get me started on the fans who defended the physics of the sequel. "Well I don't know about you, but I actually prefer it over others" NO, FUCK YOU.

Takao · « **Reply #1497 on:** May 20, 2012, 02:35:49 PM »

Media Molecule has always struck me as kind of hipster. Hopefully their new IP does something new but stays within the expectations of its' genre.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1498 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:01:15 PM »

In all fairness I *do* think they're very creative.

LBP1, regardless of sales and issues, felt like a breath of fresh air. I won't go as far as calling it ground-breaking, but the presentation, tech, scope, real-time editor, social component, and online integration were ambitious and worked beautifully and cohesively together for the most part. The good outweighed the bad at the time, and I thought the sequel would surely squash the remaining issues if Mm did the right thing and listened to the outcries and feedback of fans and critics.

Unfortunately, LBP2 improved on the already functional parts, but didn't bother to fix what was broken. It felt like an expansions. It WAS an expansion, to be honest. It was far from being a pile of shit, but it did damage (or dampen) Mm's reputation. If they want to restore their brand back to where it was, prior to the release of the first LBP, when they used to "oooh" and "aaah" the audience, their next project has to be an original IP with a fresh and innovative twist. And this time, it better be 100% more fun to play than watch.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #1499 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:06:27 PM »

Considering that Mighty Switch Force looks amazing I'm inclined to side with Oscar here. Its a half assed effort and not indicative of the 3ds not being able to handle the game. I was kinda interested in Origins too but I think I'll just wait for the WiiU sequel at this rate.

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