The Legend Of Zelda Skyward Sword thread of cumbersome control 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5

[Himu]

I can't contain the manchild in me. So good I'm welling up.  :'(

holy shit

[Oblivion]

Nope, not gonna listen to the music. On a total blackout at this point and that includes a total deaf(?)out too.

Hopefully this soundtrack is more SMG and less TP. 

[EmCeeGrammar]

New Game+ confirmed.  Not a lot of details at the moment other than no heart pickups.  I'm guessing shields take more damage, enemies do more damage, enemies take less damage.  I think nerfing potions/fairies would be required too, but I'm not confident about that.  Maybe tougher/more enemies will show up in earlier areas.  What I would like but don't expect would be new enemy/boss attack patterns and remixed dungeons.  But considering the overworld/dungeon blurring of distinction I can't imagine it would be feasible.

[bachikarn]

Apparently the entire plotline was found in the demo. These are pretty huge spoilers

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/11/skyward-sword-full-story-revealed-best-zelda-ever-confirmed.html

[magus]

Apparently the entire plotline was found in the demo. These are pretty huge spoilers

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/11/skyward-sword-full-story-revealed-best-zelda-ever-confirmed.html

the ending

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lickity demon resurrects a big baddie with a big sword who's called demise because i guess notganon doesn't sounds as cool

remind me of the whole "NO MORE ZUBAT" fiasco

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[magus]

i don't care much either but i still feel the need to point and laugh at himuro

[Cerveza mas fina]

Demo running on Dolphin.... why nintendo why  :'(

[Great Rumbler]

Man, that guy on the left is SO FABULOUS.

[magus]

Man, that guy on the left is SO FABULOUS.

reminds me of

On the off chance any of you actually cares about this:

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Demise is one funny "generic evil villain name"

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you know it's bad when you share the name with a yugioh card

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[Cerveza mas fina]

Nintendo has really perfected their art style I must say. It looks stunning in HD.

[Himu]

i don't care much either but i still feel the need to point and laugh at himuro

Don't see why seeing as the only Zelda stories I love are Links Awakening and Majora's Mask.

[magus]

i don't care much either but i still feel the need to point and laugh at himuro

Don't see why seeing as the only Zelda stories I love are Links Awakening and Majora's Mask.

mmm... did you read the spoiler?

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there's no ganon because there is now another ancient ganon like sealed evil that get unsealed in the end called DEMISE,he even looks like ganon,nintendo played bait & switch on all you "no ganon? OMG!" guys

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[Himu]

I haven't read ANY spoilers. What's the point of spoiling yourself if you're going to play it anyways?

[Crushed]

Read spoilers. Magus owned? Seems so...

[Himu]

Is that taco ganon in this

[Crushed]

No, it's a dude that's kinda similar to Ganon but instead of being a dick-wizard who shits up the Triforce picnic, he's essentially the Zelda equivalent of the devil.

It's implied

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the reason Ganon exists is because the dude hates everything so much that even after he's completely destroyed, his hatred itself will be an everliving curse (eg. Ganon) that will force Link and Zelda to constantly be reincarnated to stop it.

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[Himu]

Awesome

Any Majora's mask like storytelling?

[Crushed]

Not sure, but there's a few moments that are kinda nice and really reminded me of Wind Waker with an apparent theme of "being a hero and being saddled with a destiny from gods who want you to do shit for them kind of sucks." Apparently some people said that some lines in it were changed for the final version and some significant scenes were missing in the leak.

At least one character turns out totally different than what a bunch of idiots were all falling all over themselves to speculate.

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Groose isn't Ganondorf or a bad guy, he's actually a well-meaning kid who happens to be really rude and jealous of Link. He ends up planting the Deku Tree (?) and taking care of an old lady after going to the surface to try and save Zelda himself. He even helps out against the final boss. He might still be Ganondorf's ancestor or something, the design similarities are hard to ignore, but he's not evil.

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[magus]

No, it's a dude that's kinda similar to Ganon but instead of being a dick-wizard who shits up the Triforce picnic, he's essentially the Zelda equivalent of the devil.

It's implied

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the reason Ganon exists is because the dude hates everything so much that even after he's completely destroyed, his hatred itself will be an everliving curse (eg. Ganon) that will force Link and Zelda to constantly be reincarnated to stop it.

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i don't get what's the point of having no ganon if we get kinda ganon instead... the whole point of having no ganon is to get more creative with the scenario and pull off magical dreaming whale and having a final boss that doesn't consist of "dude with a sword"

but nope,we get ancient sealed evil notganon

[TakingBackSunday]

because it doesn't makes sense according to the loose timeline nintendo has created for the series.  You're really going to get all bent out shape because nintendo made a devil villain that wasn't ganon?  christ dude, you're insufferable

[Crushed]

All they said about "It's not Ganon" was that somebody asked Aonuma if he'd be in the game and he was all "It wouldn't really make sense given the story, so no." It's not like they promised that nobody who was Dark Lord of Evil-like would appear (besides, you get Girahim for most of the game).

That and with a game based on sword fighting and motion stuff it probably mandated that the final boss wield a sword.

[magus]

All they said about "It's not Ganon" was that somebody asked Aonuma if he'd be in the game and he was all "It wouldn't really make sense given the story, so no." It's not like they promised that nobody who was Dark Lord of Evil-like would appear (besides, you get Girahim for most of the game).

That and with a game based on sword fighting and motion stuff it probably mandated that the final boss wield a sword.

oh sure sure as i said i don't really care,i'm just saying based on that replies like this...

Wrong. Games like Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening are refreshing and a huge reason is because there IS no Ganon.

now sounds kind of silly

[Tasty]

That's it for me.

[bachikarn]

Nintendo has really perfected their art style I must say. It looks stunning in HD.

Is it going to be pretty easy to get this running on Dolphin on the day SS comes out? I haven't tried installing Dolphin yet, but would rather not play this on wii.

[TakingBackSunday]

People have had little to no problems running the demo on it.  I'd say it'll fine.

[Oblivion]

Spoiler that shit, bitches! 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I can't find my wii or wiimotes

[TakingBackSunday]

that absolute nerdlinger fucktwit TSA is claiming TP is a far better game.  This comes from the man who thinks PH is one the series highlights, and puts the zelda timeline as his number one concern as a zelda fan

good news, then!

[Himu]

that absolute nerdlinger fucktwit TSA is claiming TP is a far better game.  This comes from the man who thinks PH is one the series highlights, and puts the zelda timeline as his number one concern as a zelda fan

good news, then!

[TakingBackSunday]

TSA also thinks he's the authority on all Zelda games, if you want to have a good laugh look up what his dream Zelda would be like.

exactly, ugh

[Tasty]

TSA also thinks he's the authority on all Zelda games, if you want to have a good laugh look up what his dream Zelda would be like.

So, the BowieZ of Zelda then?

[Crushed]

gaf (especially that one jackass I won't name) freaking out over his post after all that buildup was funny, but yeah TSA has always had really fucking weird taste and ideas about Zelda that he acts authoritative about even when he says he's not trying to

still remember when he used his review copy of TP to declare his own weird personal timeline theory to have prevailed over all his opponents, only for everyone to actually play the game and wonder what the hell he was talking about

[TakingBackSunday]

He still to this day claims that crazy cutscene in TP after the water temple was supposed to be the story of OoT.  le fucking what

[Oblivion]

http://kotaku.com/5858011/30-seconds-of-skyward-sword-a-masterpiece-of-a-forest

Sorry Stephen, trees still look like crap.

edit: He also says SS is a 'slow burn'.

[Oblivion]

who would listen to stephen totodile anyway?  guy's an idiot, has no idea what he's talking about.

Really?

[Oblivion]

Ah, had a feeling, but wasn't sure. Dude seems like a decent chap.

[demi]

Have to buy a WM+ attachment in the next week... I know this shits gonna leak on the quickness.

[TakingBackSunday]

It should be out in the interwebs in the next 12 hours

[MCD]

Gonna be a good Dolphin emu testing material. Bring it on.

[Oblivion]

as i think we generally don't want silly ninthings poluting the beautiful TheBore waters, can someone hastily put up a 8.9/10 review on the front page so we get banned from all Ninthing sites and they never darken our door?

What'd I ever do to you? 

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Actually, I'd say I'm more of a Zeldathing to be precise. Don't care about 99% of the Nintendo library.

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[Oblivion]

Holeeeeeeeeeee shit:

Giant Bomb: 4/5
G4TV: 4/5
Gamepro: 4/5
EGM: 8.5
Joystiq: 4.5/5
1up: B+

Wow. That's the worst line of scores I've ever seen for a main line console Zelda.

And for the record:

[Trent Dole]

Kinda think those scores reflect more on how Nintendo has been in general lately than on the actual game. It's safe enough for reviewers to bring some real talk to a big franchise review of theirs at the moment it'd seem. Not that those scores can be considered remotely bad by anyone remotely rational but some of the N kids will meltdown anyway - this is an opportunity to out insane the Sony crew and their fine display in regards to Uncharted 3.

[Oblivion]

Please tell me there's massive genocide going on at GAF right now!

Surprisingly, nope. At least, relatively speaking. There's tons of people being shocked at the scores and such, but so far no fat jokes or death threats.

Seems Zelda fans have lost the spark.

[Trent Dole]

Somebody has a pretty wordy meltdown in the giant bomb comments. "The sidequests, IF YOU CAN EVEN CALL THEM THAT " It's just a fucking videogame spergtards, callm down.

[Trent Dole]

TP was really long and I enjoyed most of it but that 2 hour intro tutorial makes replaying it unbearable.

[Oblivion]

So the biggest complaints from what I've read are:

-the silent realm
-other shitty fetch quests
-motion controls don't work as great as you'd think

Not surprised at any of these, tbh. I knew the silent realm in particular was gonna fuck things up the moment I saw it.

[Tasty]

Most of those seem right on but EGM is the only one who's complained about the controls.

Agree with you about the reviewers though. People aren't afraid to actually score Nintendo games what they deserve (whether or not the scores are correct.) Whereas with any of the HD games, I have a feeling they'd be walking away from money on the table AND there would be fanboy jihad.

I really just want to play SS and see for myself where it stands in the series. One thing that concerns me though is:

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There's only 6/7 dungeons, down from TP's 9, and the first two seem to be flubs (like TP's final two were.) Besides that there seem to be only three "types/themes" of dungeons. This is a marked step down from TP.

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Not like I expected it to completely outdo TP in the dungeon area but it's still disappointing.

[Third]

Reviews are saying this game is worse than TP? SS must be really horrible then 

[magus]

It should be out in the interwebs in the next 12 hours

it's actualy already out

Giant Bomb: 4/5
G4TV: 4/5
Gamepro: 4/5
EGM: 8.5
Joystiq: 4.5/5
1up: B+

eeeeeehhhhh i'm really surprised
oh but here's a review full of stupid by ign so i guess thing are still going as usual
http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/121/1212220p1.html

Reviews are saying this game is worse than TP? SS must be really horrible then

TP rocks barring it's incredibly boring intro

[Tasty]

Reviews are saying this game is worse than TP? SS must be really horrible then 

TP was a really excellent Zelda game. If you hated TP then you must not get that much enjoyment from most games in the series.

[Oblivion]

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There's only 6/7 dungeons, down from TP's 9, and the first two seem to be flubs (like TP's final two were.) Besides that there seem to be only three "types/themes" of dungeons. This is a marked step down from TP.

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I was sort of worried about the variety at first too, but apparently the landforms change as you progress through the game to create different locales.

[Tasty]

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Apparently though there's no ice dungeon. Or Zoras.

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Glad I'm tampering my expectations now. I remember being so hyped for TP I was disappointed with it at first. Took a replay two years later to change that opinion.

[Oblivion]

Are there any spoilers (without spoiler tags)?

[Third]

Reviews are saying this game is worse than TP? SS must be really horrible then 

TP was a really excellent Zelda game. If you hated TP then you must not get that much enjoyment from most games in the series.

TP is the only main Zelda game I haven't finished. It just didn't click with me. Had to stop at the Sky Temple. Was bored. I was tired of it, I don't know.

Let's see how long SS will entertain me. The game seems to be refreshing and yet similar.

[Oblivion]

Reviews are saying this game is worse than TP? SS must be really horrible then 

TP was a really excellent Zelda game. If you hated TP then you must not get that much enjoyment from most games in the series.

TP is the only main Zelda game I haven't finished. It just didn't click with me. Had to stop at the Sky Temple.

The hell? TP's definitely boring, but if you gave up, it should have been within the first 10 hours. You just missed out on one of the best dungeons in the series.

[Third]

Reviews are saying this game is worse than TP? SS must be really horrible then 

TP was a really excellent Zelda game. If you hated TP then you must not get that much enjoyment from most games in the series.

TP is the only main Zelda game I haven't finished. It just didn't click with me. Had to stop at the Sky Temple.

The hell? TP's definitely boring, but if you gave up, it should have been within the first 10 hours. You just missed out on one of the best dungeons in the series.

I was in the middle of it. Something just snapped and I wasn't interested in the game anymore. Never went back to it afterwards.

There were a lot of moments in the game where I wanted to stop playing, and that Temple was the final straw.

[Oblivion]

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-with-reggie-fils-aime-111011/1367853/

[Tasty]

Who else read TSA's post in the GAF review thread? most of it is pretty hilariously stupid.

Here it is for those looking: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32607378&postcount=9859

TSA is just kind of weird. There's valid criticisms in that post but some really left field complaints too that seem way too personal to really be complaints. Sort of looking forward to the actual GT review, though I don't know if I'll watch it cause SPOILERS

[Third]

So, the game doesn't have a quest log? 

That's stupid. Each adventure with quests should have a quest log.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

bwahahha so glad this pos is getting bad reviews. Zelda is stale and dumb.