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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #600 on: January 12, 2012, 12:04:39 AM »
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/01/wii-u-ces/
Still no upscaling of Wii games :yuck
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #601 on: January 12, 2012, 12:38:37 AM »
It'll probably upscale Wii games, add filtering and do what the PS3 does.  Realistically the Wii U won't be powerful enough to render the games at a higher resolution like the Dolphin emulator, but who knows. 

I'm hoping the Wii U rereveal at E3 has a lot of changes.  Capacitive screen, real analog sticks, better controller design and input placement, etc.  There are some weird omissions on the existing controller like analog shoulder buttons, which are kinda needed since it's the standard for driving vehicles in games.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #602 on: January 12, 2012, 02:01:11 AM »


Well Pachter says Wii U is doomed.  Wii U success confirmed.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #603 on: January 12, 2012, 02:19:11 AM »
The Wii U will always do fine with a young demographic. I think the Wii and the DS have only helped pump up those core brands even more with kids. Whether it will be a Wii like level of success. That seems unlikely... But who knows. There is a lot of room in between where the Gamecube was and the Wii was. Since all anybody is doing is playing psychic, I'll do it to and say it will of course fall somewhere in the middle of that which isn't really saying much but probably closer to how the HD systems sell rather than the high water mark of the Wii early days. In other words it can still be a "success" and not ever become a hot Wii fad kinda thing.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #604 on: January 12, 2012, 02:28:46 AM »
I was just saying how Pachters predictions when it comes to gaming have all been wrong.  And that the Wii U will be a success because he thinks it will be a failure.

But seriously, What makes or breaks the Wii u is the software.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #605 on: January 12, 2012, 02:34:09 AM »
Wii had even less quality software then N64 and Gamecube had, which is a feat itself.

 

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #606 on: January 12, 2012, 02:36:16 AM »
I think what will Make or Break the Wii U will be whether there is enough gimmick appeal or revolution appeal in that tablet or whatever tricks they still have up their sleeve and haven't show to appeal to the casual market.

In a weird case I don't think the software in the sense of the software by itself will be the difference maker. I think we all know what the software will be. It will be an assortment of Mario and Zelda games along with Metroid games and Mario Kart games, etc. And that's fine to sell to the market who always buy Nintendo software and systems. But for it to cross over it needs something like Wii Sports which is a piece of software to stealth sell a piece of technology. Which it did terrifically for the Wii. So yeah its software but software to showcase the tablet or whatever new thing they are doing with motion control. At least if we are talking about it crossing over like the Wii did.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #607 on: January 12, 2012, 03:41:35 AM »
Thansk Stoney i couldnt have said it better.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #608 on: January 12, 2012, 04:50:02 AM »
What new stuff will they show with a tablet that hasn't been done already? Everyone has beaten them to it.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #609 on: January 12, 2012, 05:40:06 AM »
silly pilon

they don't have to do anything new, they just have to make it look like they have to the masses

Pretty much.  Nintendo has never really made anything new, they only copy and bring it ot the masses.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #610 on: January 12, 2012, 06:01:10 AM »
silly pilon

they don't have to do anything new, they just have to make it look like they have to the masses



Of course, but there plenty of tablets already out there that people use every day. It's going to be harder to find something that looks new than it was with the Wii.

They're not competing with Xboxes or PlayStations this time, it's Apple. You don't get more mass market than that.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #611 on: January 12, 2012, 07:25:39 AM »
mario?
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #612 on: January 12, 2012, 07:35:40 AM »
There's nothing new under the sun.

Nintendo's angle has lately been bringing in fringe technologies from the tech industry to console/casual gamers. Touchscreens? Motion controls? None of those had a dime to their name in gaming until Nintendo.

Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #613 on: January 12, 2012, 07:53:34 AM »
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #614 on: January 12, 2012, 08:12:08 AM »
One thing which might help them is the rereleasing of recent third-party games at lower prices. Say, Saint's Row The Third, with some Wii U specific missions added, or Arkham City with all the DLC and a couple of new gadgets, or Skyrim with whatever DLC is out by then and a rejiggered tablet UI.  If those and other games from the past 1-2 years come out at say $29.99, that makes the system look like a much better buy to a new purchaser. Or something like Shogun 2, which hasn't (and couldn't, really) come to any of the other consoles, but could work on the WeEEEEuuuUUU using the tablet. There is certainly the possibility that some PC games which wouldn't work well on PS3/360 even with their waggle accessories could work well enough on the WeEEEEuuuUUU. They really, really need to rethink that single-point touch, though. That's gonna be a hindrance to a lot of potential usage, it pretty much just turns that screen into a single giant button.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #615 on: January 12, 2012, 08:30:34 AM »
Late ports never work.They are good for building library in the long run(keeping pace with others) but other than that...

Bethesda charging $30 for WiiU Skyrim is a bit unrealistic.They will probably add something and charge full price.

"It will sell like shit anyway,so fuck it--$60"
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #616 on: January 12, 2012, 08:37:42 AM »
Yeah, you're probably right about Skyrim (now that I think about it it probably won't even be released on the WU), but I could definitely see SR3 with a Genki Touch! exclusive. Late ports don't work on people like us, to be sure, but lower-priced ports with extra exclusive shit and previously unavailable PC games would definitely make it a more appealing purchase for those who haven't already made any kind of jump to PS3/360/PC (and they are out there, up until this Xmas my fiance's kids only had a Wii).
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #617 on: January 26, 2012, 07:24:02 AM »
Some news via Eurogamer

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The Wii U will launch in the US, Europe, Australia and Japan by the end of 2012, Nintendo has promised.

Following the release of its third quarter 2012 financial results, Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata told reporters in Japan today the Wii successor will hit key markets for the year end.




New Tomb Rider will apparently hit even Mac but not Wii U,explanation

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Global brand director Karl Stewart said development on the hotly-anticipated reboot began long before the announcement of the Wii U - and it wouldn't be right to simply port the game to Nintendo's tablet-fuelled Wii successor.

"When we started developing the game we made a conscious decision that it was all about building the game for a platform and making sure the game was specific to that platform," Stewart told the Crystal Habit Podcast (via the Eidos forum.

"Given that we've been working on the game quite a while before Wii U was announced I think it would not be right to try and port it across. If we started building a game for the Wii U we would build it very differently and we would build it with unique functionality."

it would not be right to try

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #618 on: January 26, 2012, 08:22:58 AM »
yeah,i seem to remember that too
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #619 on: January 26, 2012, 03:32:17 PM »
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/333583/whats-in-a-name-nintendo-considering-wii-u-rebrand-sources-claim/

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CVG understands that following a disappointing E3 reveal - and public confusion over 3DS - serious discussions are ongoing at the highest level in the US and Japan as to whether the firm should cut its losses and give the console a different name.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #620 on: January 26, 2012, 03:34:15 PM »
IWii
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #621 on: January 26, 2012, 03:46:06 PM »
IWii?

not bad,it would be marked as copy paste but who cares

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #622 on: January 26, 2012, 03:59:52 PM »
IWiiiiiiiiiii
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #623 on: January 26, 2012, 04:02:55 PM »
How about KOOWII?

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« Reply #624 on: January 26, 2012, 04:04:44 PM »
SooooooWIIIIIII!

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #625 on: January 26, 2012, 04:09:01 PM »
Wii Nur

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #626 on: January 26, 2012, 04:30:05 PM »
I wonder if they'll ever release a Golden Wii edition
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« Reply #627 on: January 26, 2012, 06:17:06 PM »

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #628 on: January 26, 2012, 06:34:54 PM »
Just call it Wii-2, how hard is that?
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #629 on: January 26, 2012, 07:40:56 PM »
Wii Dun Goofd (after people get pissed that you can only have one or two tablets per console)

Just call it Wii-2, how hard is that?

Yeah but that isn't quirky or Apple-like.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #630 on: January 26, 2012, 10:19:58 PM »
Trying desperately to call it Wii "something" comes off as Nintendo trying to capture lightning in a bottle again
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #631 on: January 26, 2012, 10:20:39 PM »
Apparently some stuff got announced today.

NFC is baked into the controller and the system will have an account-based structure for downloads. Also, they "have the infrastructure in place" for downloads of retail software (also for 3DS) but are trying to decide the best timing for it.

All this news makes me pretty happy. :) But they specifically mention "multiple accounts per system," which is cool, but I want to know if it'll allow "multiple systems per account." Then I'd never have to worry about the system being fried and buying a new one and having none of my stuff transfer over, you know, like my first Wii.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #632 on: January 26, 2012, 10:44:34 PM »
The Pii Wii

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #633 on: January 26, 2012, 10:58:59 PM »
Apparently some stuff got announced today.

NFC is baked into the controller and the system will have an account-based structure for downloads. Also, they "have the infrastructure in place" for downloads of retail software (also for 3DS) but are trying to decide the best timing for it.

All this news makes me pretty happy. :) But they specifically mention "multiple accounts per system," which is cool, but I want to know if it'll allow "multiple systems per account." Then I'd never have to worry about the system being fried and buying a new one and having none of my stuff transfer over, you know, like my first Wii.

yeah, I'm actually pretty excited about this.  I'm not saying I don't care about other online stuff, but the bare minimum for me is an account to tie purchases too.  I can finally buy games on the wares without feeling like I'm leasing a game.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #634 on: January 26, 2012, 11:11:36 PM »
<insert joke about renaming it The Mario Box>

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« Reply #635 on: January 26, 2012, 11:33:36 PM »
Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.

Just like motion controls were well supported by the major third parties? Oh yeah...
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #636 on: January 26, 2012, 11:43:46 PM »
Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.

Just like motion controls were well supported by the major third parties? Oh yeah...

They were. 100% of Wii games use the Wiimote or have it as an option. How many 360 games are Kinect-compatible?

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« Reply #637 on: January 26, 2012, 11:45:24 PM »
Unfortunately the whole tablet situation is a little different but the fact still remains Nintendo is bringing this tech to consoles, and it will probably be very well supported (well, compared to the App Store) by major third parties.

Just like motion controls were well supported by the major third parties? Oh yeah...

They were. 100% of Wii games use the Wiimote or have it as an option. How many 360 games are Kinect-compatible?

I'm not talking about games that use the Wiimote. I meant that the system was not well supported by third parties in comparison to the standard HD consoles.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #638 on: January 26, 2012, 11:53:25 PM »
I was talking about the tech of the tablet controller in that post, and comparing it to the iPad, not the HD consoles (who probably won't have similar tech.)

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #639 on: January 27, 2012, 01:35:54 AM »
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #640 on: January 27, 2012, 02:05:25 AM »
The other thing I'm hoping is changed for the re-reveal is establishing whether the second screen is an additional display and control method or primary screen replacement.  Well, the actual change I want is to place 99% of the focus on using the controller screen to complement the big screen. 

It's fine for more traditional games to keep it all on the device, but the possibilities of a second screen for gameplay purposes are great.  I want games designed to make full use of the main and second screen working together.

Wii U had no identity at E3.  It was confusing and had conflicting ideas.  A lot of the demos shown were stupid like putting the controller on the floor and using a wii remote and what the fuck now I'm using two screens and two controllers to play a stupid golf game? stop making this stuff complicated.  And while it's nice to play games on the potty or in bed, I'd rather have all my inventory management and stuff on the touch screen or whatever.

in short: a screen on a controller is a great idea.  It's can really help.  Stop doing gimmicky shit.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #641 on: January 27, 2012, 02:10:40 AM »
I think it'll be a system wide API (similar to pressing the Home button) to switch the main display to the tablet. Of course, then the problem becomes, if you do that, what happens to what you were already displaying there? For the Zelda demo, they put an overlay on the action. I don't think that's a good solution.

I imagine most devs will use it like a DS, or rather 3DS which even more strictly uses the bottom screen for secondary functions.

I'm also concerned at just what kind of weirdness local multiplayer games will introduce. How will they get across to consumers that Game A needs one tablet and four Wiimotes, and Game B needs two tablets and two Wiimotes, etc.? It's a slippery slope having a controller that's limited to one or, at best, two players, and then relying on the previous console's controllers to supplement the rest. (On the other hand, Find Mii et al were to my knowledge, the first local multiplayer console 5-player games.) I'm looking forward to having many of these questions answered at E3.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #642 on: January 27, 2012, 02:33:28 AM »
Rest assured that whatever name the American Nintendo branch pushes for will be shot down by their Japanese overlords

How about Wii Aboo

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #643 on: January 27, 2012, 07:46:39 AM »
no,this is NiN

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #644 on: January 27, 2012, 08:40:26 AM »
Wii NES
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #646 on: January 27, 2012, 10:16:31 AM »
Rest assured that whatever name the American Nintendo branch pushes for will be shot down by their Japanese overlords

How about Wii Aboo

Only if they get some Gust, NIS, Cave games on the platform...
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #647 on: January 27, 2012, 12:25:37 PM »
:lol Nintendo can't win with you people.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #648 on: January 27, 2012, 12:50:55 PM »
Most people here like the Galaxy games!

I dunno.  There's a weird perception of what a fan is.  On gaf it seems to be supporting a company every time and always.  I think of it like, if a company does good stuff, I'm a fan; if they don't, I'm not.  If I had emotional or financial investment in a company, maybe it would be different.  If Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft release rubbish products, there's no reason to be a fan.  I mean, these are companies, not people.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #649 on: January 27, 2012, 12:54:30 PM »
I dunno.  There's a weird perception of what a fan is.

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How do I know that The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is a great game? It has so many polarizing opinions around it. Some thing it changed way too much. Others say it didn't change nearly enough. Not since Majora's Mask have we had a game with so many dissenting opinions. Hell, it should be no surprise that Majora's Mask was my other big-time favorite!

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #650 on: January 27, 2012, 12:54:55 PM »
Being a "fan" on internet message boards means you have to advocate annoyingly for your platform of choice 24/7.


My take on the Wii U is I'm glad they seem to be embracing better tech but I'm still skeptical about all the things Nintendo has traditionally had problems with. Shitty online. Third Party Support, etc. Which is why I have no interest in the system currently. They can say all the right things now. They always do before a platform launch. It's a year or two down the road when people can actually judge the truth of the situation. If things change then my opinion on getting one may change.
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« Reply #651 on: January 27, 2012, 01:23:35 PM »
I dunno.  There's a weird perception of what a fan is.

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How do I know that The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is a great game? It has so many polarizing opinions around it. Some thing it changed way too much. Others say it didn't change nearly enough. Not since Majora's Mask have we had a game with so many dissenting opinions. Hell, it should be no surprise that Majora's Mask was my other big-time favorite!

don't be like that andrex :(

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #652 on: January 27, 2012, 02:19:24 PM »
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I've barely played Majora's Mask.  :teehee
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It's barely worth playing. :teehee
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #653 on: January 27, 2012, 02:28:37 PM »
i do dig the whole moon crashing and sidequest from the villagers,but the rest of the game is the usual "square block goes into square hole" pap that zelda consist of :smug
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« Reply #654 on: January 27, 2012, 02:31:11 PM »
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #655 on: January 27, 2012, 02:57:53 PM »
how appropriate, given nintendo's proclivity for fucking their customers like animals

Nah, they're more like neglectful parents at this point.  Molestation implies giving attention.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #656 on: January 27, 2012, 08:33:44 PM »
NMA nails it.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #657 on: January 27, 2012, 09:36:26 PM »
yes but there's no well-known Nine Inch Nails song that fits that scenario

you people are killing me here

I genuinely didn't know what you were referencing.

Sorry, angry canadian guy.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Wii U Thread)
« Reply #658 on: January 27, 2012, 09:59:42 PM »
how appropriate, given nintendo's proclivity for fucking their customers like animals

Well, they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them.
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« Reply #659 on: January 28, 2012, 12:09:15 AM »
yes but there's no well-known Nine Inch Nails song that fits that scenario

you people are killing me here

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