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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #660 on:** January 28, 2012, 12:38:41 AM »

Quote from: Andrex on January 27, 2012, 12:25:37 PM

Nintendo can't win with you people.

I won't be satisfied until they just release a controlled with a big "win" button on it

maxy · « **Reply #661 on:** January 28, 2012, 04:28:23 AM »

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-oddworld-strangers-wrath-hd

Interesting article about porting process,MS refusal and some small bit about Nintendo

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Digital Foundry: PlayStation Vita and Nintendo Wii U are the big console launches of this year - what are your thoughts on these systems? Bearing in mind the recent release of GTA3, could you ever conceive of bringing Oddworld titles onto suitably powerful iOS devices?

Stewart Gilray: Well, we've already announced versions of Stranger and Munch for the Vita, but with regards to Nintendo, currently I'm not interested in working with them, or on their platform. Having developed a number of titles over the years for their various platforms, it's become increasingly apparent that unless you are published by Nintendo you don't tend to do very well.

They also have this crazy regard to IP and refuse to sign NDAs with indie-developer/publishers, leaving us small guys open to having our ideas stolen with no recourse. We have already looked at doing some stuff on iOS and all I can say is watch this space.

Damian79 · « **Reply #662 on:** January 28, 2012, 05:12:36 AM »

Quote from: maxy on January 28, 2012, 04:28:23 AM

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-oddworld-strangers-wrath-hd

Interesting article about porting process,MS refusal and some small bit about Nintendo

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Digital Foundry: PlayStation Vita and Nintendo Wii U are the big console launches of this year - what are your thoughts on these systems? Bearing in mind the recent release of GTA3, could you ever conceive of bringing Oddworld titles onto suitably powerful iOS devices?

Stewart Gilray: Well, we've already announced versions of Stranger and Munch for the Vita, but with regards to Nintendo, currently I'm not interested in working with them, or on their platform. Having developed a number of titles over the years for their various platforms, it's become increasingly apparent that unless you are published by Nintendo you don't tend to do very well.

They also have this crazy regard to IP and refuse to sign NDAs with indie-developer/publishers, leaving us small guys open to having our ideas stolen with no recourse. We have already looked at doing some stuff on iOS and all I can say is watch this space.

Irrelevant company big wig says shit. I mean really what have Nintendo stolen from them? Their games are too shit to steal from.

maxy · « **Reply #663 on:** January 28, 2012, 06:22:32 AM »

sweetroll

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #664 on:** January 28, 2012, 02:46:02 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 27, 2012, 11:21:05 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 27, 2012, 09:36:26 PM
I genuinely didn't know what you were referencing.

Sorry, angry canadian guy.

well, it was a pretty obscure reference

if you're 12 years old or a loser shut-in

Or I don't listen to NiN. Leave me aloneeee!

Tasty · « **Reply #665 on:** January 28, 2012, 05:23:15 PM »

EmCee listens to Evanescense like a true bro.

I'm frightened by what I see
But somehow I know
That there's much more to come

Trent Dole · « **Reply #666 on:** January 28, 2012, 11:05:55 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on January 28, 2012, 05:23:15 PM

EmCee listens to Evanescense like a true cigarillo.

Tasty · « **Reply #667 on:** January 29, 2012, 12:57:33 PM »

Quote from: Count Drugula The Satanic on January 29, 2012, 08:31:48 AM

Quote from: Andrex on January 28, 2012, 05:23:15 PM
EmCee listens to Evanescense like a true bro.

I'm frightened by what I see
But somehow I know
That there's much more to come

This is so fucking awful that I may actually hate you for reals now Andrex.

Can't keep believing, we're only deceiving ourselves
And I'm sick of the lie
And you're too late

maxy · « **Reply #668 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:26:47 AM »

bump

Quote from: MULTI TROLL

the rumour is $200 base unit, $120 controller and a $299 "pack"

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #669 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:38:04 AM »

considering what we've been hearing about its allegedly not so impressive horsepower lately, this makes sense.

maxy · « **Reply #670 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:57:25 AM »

It would also mean that Nintendo has officially changed its mind about multiple Weeoooo controllers gaming.
Weeoooo power bump makes a lot more sense,they have to feed multiple controllers.

Tons of cash can be made by selling separate controllers too.

Big Barry Jazz · « **Reply #671 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:42:34 AM »

Wait, is that rumour saying you'll be able to buy the console by itself? What's the point of that if you need the controller? Can you play it using the Force?

maxy · « **Reply #672 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:12:34 AM »

I doubt Nintendo would sell console without controller.

It could be

base pack=console+controller+min storage(8GB rumored)
premium pack=console+controller+game+bigger storage

magus · « **Reply #673 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:25:55 AM »

I CAN SEE THE FUTURE

- nobody buys it at 300$
- price drop to 250$
- half-assed mario effort gets released
- thing start selling millions
- nthing celebrates that nintendo has done it again
- things stop to a dead end for 5 months as nthings plays hordes and hordes of 360/PS3 ports

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #674 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:41:16 AM »

fuck, i'd buy one for $200

spoiler (click to show/hide)

if it's anything like my wii experience i'll buy three

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Big Barry Jazz · « **Reply #675 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:29:45 AM »

God, I'm dumb $:-\$ . Of course they won't sell it without the controller, but I'm expecting a far deeper gouging than that.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #676 on:** March 25, 2012, 12:25:22 PM »

100 bucks for a controller? This thing will struggle to outsell the 360 on a monthly basis

Tasty · « **Reply #677 on:** March 25, 2012, 02:43:49 PM »

Doesn't seem likely to me that Nintendo would ever go for a split SKU in a home console. I also don't believe they would price it below the Wii's original price. For me, $250 for a single SKU (console, controller, game) and $80 controllers make the most sense, but I'm not Nintendo.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #678 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:30:30 PM »

I wish them well

At this point in my life my gaming is primarily on one console, one ipad/itouch/ and one PC. That's more than enough (actually too much) for what I need and the amount of free time I have to game. For me to get another it would really have to blow me away.

As far as sales I still see nothing to believe this will be a Wii like hit so far.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #679 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:40:11 PM »

Has it been confirmed that the console can only recognize 1-2 of the official controllers at the same time?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #680 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:51:52 PM »

I don't see how they can not let it support 4, considering some of their franchises main liveblood is off of multiplayer.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #681 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:57:47 PM »

Sounds like a trainwreck.

cool breeze · « **Reply #682 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:06:58 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 25, 2012, 03:51:52 PM

I don't see how they can not let it support 4, considering some of their franchises main liveblood is off of multiplayer.

It could support 4 controllers, just not 4 tablet-controllers. It probably wouldn't be powerful enough to support four 854x480 displays, plus the main 720p or 1080p TV.

A lot has probably changed since E3 but back then it was clear that wii remote plus and nunchuck will still be control options.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #683 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:52:48 PM »

Lemme share a little story about graphics and immersion.

This one time I lost myself in Advance Wars: DS, with the animations off. At that point, the whole game is just these blocky little sprites shuffling around on a big ugly grid. I was so into it that I literally had no idea what was going on around me. I'm lucky I didn't miss my train stop. Obviously, the graphics were terrible; it was the game itself that was so engrossing.

I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.

bork · « **Reply #684 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:06:37 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 25, 2012, 04:52:48 PM

I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.

Most people really don't...look at all those cell phone and smart phone games.

Hell, look at the Wii and its mega-success launch game, Wii Sports, when it came out. Or Pokemon games.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #685 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:10:43 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 25, 2012, 03:51:52 PM

I don't see how they can not let it support 4, considering some of their franchises main liveblood is off of multiplayer.

Family multiplayer especially. How does that play out with a controller that costs $100? I don't see developers being happy about having to work with the original Wii controller as well, which is apparently encouraged for use with the WiiU.

Sounds like a trainwreck. I'm sure it'll sell well initially in comparison to the more expensive other consoles, but this sounds quite contrived and confusing for a Nintendo console.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #686 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:15:10 PM »

Thats a non arguement. And everyone disabeled animations in Advance Wars to speed it up.

Big Barry Jazz · « **Reply #687 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:17:43 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 25, 2012, 03:30:30 PM

As far as sales I still see nothing to believe this will be a Wii like hit so far.

That's what I've been thinking, but then again I thought the wii would crash and burn and I've certainly been made to look a tit on that front.

Tasty · « **Reply #688 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:09:07 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on March 25, 2012, 05:06:37 PM

Or Pokemon games.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #689 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:16:11 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 25, 2012, 04:52:48 PM

Lemme share a little story about graphics and immersion.

This one time I lost myself in Advance Wars: DS, with the animations off. At that point, the whole game is just these blocky little sprites shuffling around on a big ugly grid. I was so into it that I literally had no idea what was going on around me. I'm lucky I didn't miss my train stop. Obviously, the graphics were terrible; it was the game itself that was so engrossing.

I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.

The tech and graphics never determine a winner. That's for message board debates and forum warriors. Which is not to say if given the choice with better graphics in a certain instance I wouldn't take the better graphics in some cases. (Although I'll take frame rate over textures and pure polygon pushing any day of the week).

I personally never knock the Wii U for its tech although I understand some people being frustrated at times at Nintendo's unwillingness to push the tech side at all. Especially when the Wii looked like shit on most hdtv's.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #690 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:49:52 PM »

The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck if they can't get four Wii U tablet-controllers to work with the thing.

I can imagine as a little kid getting pissed that Billy and Susie get to use a Wii U controller but Charlie and I have to use the Wiimote.

Sounds like a winning concept to me!

Damian79 · « **Reply #691 on:** March 25, 2012, 09:45:22 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on March 25, 2012, 08:49:52 PM

The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck if they can't get four Wii U tablet-controllers to work with the thing.

I can imagine as a little kid getting pissed that Billy and Susie get to use a Wii U controller but Charlie and I have to use the Wiimote.

Sounds like a winning concept to me!

Seems like a problem with society as a whole than the Wii U. Children should really learn to share.

cool breeze · « **Reply #692 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:02:38 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 25, 2012, 06:16:11 PM

Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 25, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
Lemme share a little story about graphics and immersion.

This one time I lost myself in Advance Wars: DS, with the animations off. At that point, the whole game is just these blocky little sprites shuffling around on a big ugly grid. I was so into it that I literally had no idea what was going on around me. I'm lucky I didn't miss my train stop. Obviously, the graphics were terrible; it was the game itself that was so engrossing.

I know this is just me, though. Many other people seem to care a lot more about visuals.

The tech and graphics never determine a winner. That's for message board debates and forum warriors. Which is not to say if given the choice with better graphics in a certain instance I wouldn't take the better graphics in some cases. (Although I'll take frame rate over textures and pure polygon pushing any day of the week).

I personally never knock the Wii U for its tech although I understand some people being frustrated at times at Nintendo's unwillingness to push the tech side at all. Especially when the Wii looked like shit on most hdtv's.

I don't know if I have a stance, but if I did it'd be "I won't hate a game for graphics if it doesn't hinder the gameplay." Performance and image quality matter most to me and with PC games I'll turn down various graphics options for games to run smoother. I'll acknowledge that the games look bad, but it's not a huge deal to me. My favorite games of the past few years all have dated visuals (Deus Ex HR, Fallout 3/NV, Infamous, Mario Galaxy). And as much as I like Crysis, the first time I played it was on low settings because I had a shit computer. That said, I'd like games to look nice. It's just not the most important thing to me.

(I'm not even sure where this tangent about graphics came from)

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #693 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:50:10 PM »

I just want to make it clear that I don't own a DS nor have I played AD on the DS nor have I taken public transit in a long time!

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #694 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:54:32 PM »

where did this come from doododododo

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #695 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:55:13 PM »

edit: god damn your stealth edit.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #696 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:56:58 PM »

Hey, this page came out of nowhere I promise.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #697 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:57:16 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on March 25, 2012, 08:49:52 PM

The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck

Fixed

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #698 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:59:37 PM »

I think I will have fun with the newest Nintendo Entertainment System. Isn't that all that really matters? Isn't it? :_)

Barry Egan · « **Reply #699 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:18:44 PM »

You can't determine whimsy from a spec sheet or controller prototype, after all.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #700 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:45:26 PM »

Oh, I just realised the alt now.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #701 on:** March 26, 2012, 03:39:41 AM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 25, 2012, 10:50:10 PM

I just want to make it clear that I don't own a DS nor have I played AD on the DS nor have I taken public transit in a long time!

I found that quote on GAF now

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #702 on:** March 26, 2012, 03:41:53 AM »

Nintendo is regressing even further if that's the truth.

Of course it will remain the choice for families and kids so it won't completely fail saleswise, but you can forget about all multiplat games coming to it.

maxy · « **Reply #703 on:** March 26, 2012, 03:52:55 AM »

from other forum,source ShockingA

I trust your info. Hearing anything on Microsoft's end? I think that is the real key here- if they don't go batshit crazy I think the Wii U will be in that sweet spot of being very easy to port to.

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I have heard they are going batshit crazy.

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They asked publishers and developers what they need in a next-gen system

EA, Activision, DICE, and Epic all insisted on raising the ceiling by what we would traditionally consider a generational leap.

Microsoft listened because they were told this would increase game sales and hardware adoption.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #704 on:** March 26, 2012, 05:40:30 AM »

Quote from: Damian79 on March 25, 2012, 09:45:22 PM

Quote from: The Experiment on March 25, 2012, 08:49:52 PM
The Wii U will be a fucking trainwreck if they can't get four Wii U tablet-controllers to work with the thing.

I can imagine as a little kid getting pissed that Billy and Susie get to use a Wii U controller but Charlie and I have to use the Wiimote.

Sounds like a winning concept to me!

Seems like a problem with society as a whole than the Wii U. Children should really learn to share.

excellent spin

Damian79 · « **Reply #705 on:** March 26, 2012, 05:50:11 AM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on March 26, 2012, 05:40:30 AM

excellent spin

Thank you.

Damian79 · « **Reply #706 on:** March 26, 2012, 05:53:22 AM »

Seriously though i wonder how much streaming is actually happening with the Wii U controller, why can it only handle 2 controllers?

maxy · « **Reply #707 on:** March 26, 2012, 06:20:51 AM »

Nintendo said nothing about supporting two tablet controllers.

Official Nintendo standpoint = One controller per console,controller not sold separately

Damian79 · « **Reply #708 on:** March 26, 2012, 06:22:04 AM »

They have said they are working on it.

maxy · « **Reply #709 on:** March 26, 2012, 06:36:29 AM »

I think that was just some rumor not official update.

magus · « **Reply #710 on:** March 26, 2012, 07:04:20 AM »

the only 2 reasons i got a wii in the first place were

1) it was super cheap compared to the FIFTY HUNDRED AND NINTY NINE DOLLAR ps3
2) i really liked the idea of motion control

nintendo completly shat the bed when it came to 2,but i fear that if these morons keep releasing 500$ machine's i might be forced to buy one again for reason 1

maybe i should just give an upgrade to my pc....

magus · « **Reply #711 on:** March 26, 2012, 07:52:42 AM »

Quote from: Borys on March 26, 2012, 07:39:26 AM

This years E3 will be grand.

a grand train wreck! last year e3 was fucking terrible,OH LOOK MORE SHOOTERS,MORE WAGGLES,MORE MARIO

my only hope? fucking smash bros 4 that's what,tough i really can't imagine what they can do to give it a shiny new polish considering they ran out of decent nintendo characters to put in it

tiesto · « **Reply #712 on:** March 26, 2012, 08:34:00 AM »

Quote from: magus on March 26, 2012, 07:52:42 AM

Quote from: Borys on March 26, 2012, 07:39:26 AM
This years E3 will be grand.

a grand train wreck! last year e3 was fucking terrible,OH LOOK MORE SHOOTERS,MORE WAGGLES,MORE MARIO

my only hope? fucking smash bros 4 that's what,tough i really can't imagine what they can do to give it a shiny new polish considering they ran out of decent nintendo characters to put in it

No way, they can always put in MIKE JONESSSSSSS in it!

Yeah I hope E3 will be good this year but last year's SUCKED.

Tasty · « **Reply #713 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:07:50 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 26, 2012, 06:49:23 AM

i wish nintendo would stop making good games so i could just write off their home consoles for good.

I have come to the conclusion that this is what every N-hater believes in their hearts. Pour souls. :'(

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #714 on:** March 26, 2012, 06:02:51 PM »

Does anyone really expect any next gen shit this E3? I dont.

Tasty · « **Reply #715 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:18:16 PM »

If we want to get picky it was Sony that pushed the ceiling on portable console pricing to that level with the PSP.

Can't blame Nintendo there.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #716 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:49:40 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on March 26, 2012, 10:18:16 PM

If we want to get picky it was Sony that pushed the ceiling on portable console pricing to that level with the PSP. Can't blame Nintendo there.

sure can -- the psp sold us 2006 handheld tech at 250, in 2006. the 3ds sells us 2006 handheld tech at 250... in 2011.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #717 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:51:27 PM »

then again, this is the first time nintendo has sold handheld hardware in the same performance generation as their console

pilonv1 · « **Reply #718 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:52:27 PM »

Can't fault Sony for wanting to get out of the portable gaming ghetto.

Unfortunately Apple came along and pissed all over their cardboard box shelter.

cool breeze · « **Reply #719 on:** March 26, 2012, 11:08:25 PM »

to be fair, the DS and 3DS are more or less in line with how Nintendo handles handhelds. DS is like the sub-PS1 to the GBA's sub-SNES to the 3DS' sub-Wii. PSP just redefined expectations, or something like that.

Wii is the odd one. Sadly it's also why the Wii U is still kinda nice. It has taken more than 10 years, but finally Nintendo games are going to look better! poor one out for standard def.

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