Game

[huckleberry]

All I know is that fucking waggle is almost dead...who gives a shit about anything other than that.

Kinect 2 included with every 720!

lulz.

if microsoft had made kinect the de fact way of playing the 360 i would have treated it with as much contempt.

[bachikarn]

Q: This should be fun. We have EEDAR's Jesse Divnich saying Wii U is unlikely to persuade core gamers with that $299 price point...

Reggie Fils-Aime: He needs to see Call of Duty that we have here, or Assassin's Creed.

reggie 

[Joe Molotov]

Well then, I see no reason to keep this PS3 and 360 around!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I think it's part of the reason they're not offering the tablet for sale separately at launch, as well.

That would almost have to be the reason.

[Human Snorenado]

It was a dumb move to call it Wii U, that name invited confusion. You have people like Fallon mistaking it for a Wii peripheral on national TV (and he actually plays games). My fiance asked about it (her kids have a Wii), and she was confused that it was a tablet peripheral. I've heard this same thing a few other times. Outside our little insular sphere, no one knows what the fuck it is, and that's not because they're "stupid" or "ignorant casuals," it's because Wii U is a dumb name, and combined with making it look almost exactly like a fucking Wii peripheral their confusion is entirely understandable. If they were gonna insist on retaining that Wii brand and look, they should have named it the SuperWii or something similar. I know that's a goofy name, but it's better than Wii U, and denotes a more powerful new console, just like the Super Nintendo did back when. People see that tablet and the name Wii U, and they assume that Wii U is what the tablet is called, and it's something you buy for the Wii like the Wii Fit. They could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and consumer confusion just by naming it something else.

It's going to be a problem, but only at first. After a year it won't matter, like the Wii's name.

If you legitimately think this thing is going to ANYTHING NEAR Wii's sales, you're as stupid as we all worry you are.

[TakingBackSunday]

oooh I forgot about AssCreed 3.  I'll be honest if I pick this up in November, I'll be buying that :3

[Cerveza mas fina]

WiiU has COD and Assasins Creed?

Oh wait Ill spend another 300 on a new console to play the games I can play on my PC/360/PS3 

Great arguement Reggie!

oooh I forgot about AssCreed 3.  I'll be honest if I pick this up in November, I'll be buying that :3

SMH

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

While it's too early to tell, unless Wii U is some pop culture phenomenon like the Wii's first two years, the sales of the Wii U are going to resemble the Game Cube more than the Wii.  Getting great third party ports isn't going to bring the PS3 and 360 owners over and once the PS4 and 720 come out, ports will dry up for the Wii U.  That is unless the ports are shit or the games themselves don't tax next gen hardware and then could be ported over.  The only saving grace is if Nintendo is receptive to indie touchscreen games and tries to make it a viable alternative to iPad gaming.

Also, TVii is worthless because most new TVs already have Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, etc. already loaded onto the TVs or Bluray or DVD players made after 2010.  There's nothing special about that that would entice consumers to come on over.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I can see ports of 3rd party games doing relatively well on Wii cause they might get bought by ravid Nintards that have been without COD games for 6 years.

Then again they will just buy Mario again.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I can see ports of 3rd party games doing relatively well on Wii cause they might get bought by ravid Nintards that have been without COD games for 6 years.

Then again they will just buy Mario again.

They've had several Wii Call of Duty games.  Although it was pretty sweet how it took them two years to port COD4.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Come on who plays cod on Wii 

[TakingBackSunday]

WiiU has COD and Assasins Creed?

Oh wait Ill spend another 300 on a new console to play the games I can play on my PC/360/PS3 

Great arguement Reggie!

oooh I forgot about AssCreed 3.  I'll be honest if I pick this up in November, I'll be buying that :3

SMH

I'm saying if I buy the console in November (not likely) I'd probably pick up Mario and AssCreed.

[Tasty]

It was a dumb move to call it Wii U, that name invited confusion. You have people like Fallon mistaking it for a Wii peripheral on national TV (and he actually plays games). My fiance asked about it (her kids have a Wii), and she was confused that it was a tablet peripheral. I've heard this same thing a few other times. Outside our little insular sphere, no one knows what the fuck it is, and that's not because they're "stupid" or "ignorant casuals," it's because Wii U is a dumb name, and combined with making it look almost exactly like a fucking Wii peripheral their confusion is entirely understandable. If they were gonna insist on retaining that Wii brand and look, they should have named it the SuperWii or something similar. I know that's a goofy name, but it's better than Wii U, and denotes a more powerful new console, just like the Super Nintendo did back when. People see that tablet and the name Wii U, and they assume that Wii U is what the tablet is called, and it's something you buy for the Wii like the Wii Fit. They could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and consumer confusion just by naming it something else.

Did I even remotely suggest something like that?
It's going to be a problem, but only at first. After a year it won't matter, like the Wii's name.

If you legitimately think this thing is going to ANYTHING NEAR Wii's sales, you're as stupid as we all worry you are.

[Eel O'Brian]

Come on who plays cod on Wii 

i played world at war (i believe i rented it from gamefly), i was actually impressed by how they managed to scale it back and still retain the feel of the HD game.

[benjipwns]

There's enough people that Treyarch bothered to figure out how to patch the multiplayer.

Just fired it up. It says there's 57800 players on Blops right now. Connected to a domination game in about fifteen seconds.

EDIT: Wow, if that's accurate that's more people than are playing MW2+Blops+MW3 on PC right now.

[EmCeeGrammar]

There's enough people that Treyarch bothered to figure out how to patch the multiplayer.

Just fired it up. It says there's 57800 players on Blops right now. Connected to a domination game in about fifteen seconds.

EDIT: Wow, if that's accurate that's more people than are playing MW2+Blops+MW3 on PC right now.

Its not accurate.  If you actually add up all the people it states are playing the playlists the number is actually closer to 10000.  I highly doubt 40k players are playing private matches.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Come on who plays cod on Wii 

The numbers would surprise you.

He's been told this by you before, he's just being a boob again.

[benjipwns]

Its not accurate.  If you actually add up all the people it states are playing the playlists the number is actually closer to 10000.  I highly doubt 40k players are playing private matches.

Ahhh yeah. Just checked again and you're right. 58500 online but only around 12000 in any of the lists. Wonder what the deal is with that.

Checked MW3 just because and it has about 7800 online with 5800 in playlists. (And specifically lists this.)

Still not too shabby considering.

[naff]

Bayonetta 2's exclusive to this thing

Just noticed the thread.... This 'betrayalton' is going to make for some good reading

[Tasty]

All their series are still waiting into the wings

Where have I heard this before?

Look, Nintendo's output plus the duration of time between each one for the Wii was a problem. The games were good, but not good enough to justify the time period plus there was plenty of disappointments within like Other M. Not to mention how piss easy they were. SMG2 is really the only game that fit for what we would expect from Nintendo. I've discussed what I thought of the first Galaxy too many times to count so I won't bore you with a repost. Zelda Skyward Sword was plenty of steps ahead and yet so many steps backwards that while I loved it and I'm not exactly super excited about another Zelda cause of the steps back.

"Plenty of disappointments like Other M"

I can understand disappointment with a LACK of games like F-Zero but actually disappointing games? Maybe Super Paper Mario...? Kirby's Epic Yarn...? (redeemed by Return to Dreamland.)

Difficulty =/= Enjoyability, I hope you understand that.

Also, NSMBW and DKCR had great amount of difficulty. SMG's end game wasn't anything to sneeze at, either. And all of them were AAA games quality wise.

As for Zelda, they change things so much each time it seems shortsighted to predict whether you'll get the next one based on the last one. But if there were a word to describe your stand on the Wii U, it would be "shortsighted."

[Huff]

Nah nsmbwii was awesome but pretty easy, at least when playing with others

[Huff]

Never had a chance to play it single player since it was a buddy's wii but I'll take your word for it.

What about compared to rayman since I'm soloing that

[Takao]

Tecmo-Koei is like the easiest third party publisher in Japan Andrex. They'll align themselves with whatever hardware manufacturer gives them attention, lol.

[Takao]

The funny thing is that games in general have been getting easier and easier, it's just that Nintendo, rather than try to hide it, seems to tie a pink ribbon around it and delicately wrap it in Christmas lights.

But I guess data shows that easier games sell better, so people like us who cut their teeth on bitch hard games are mostly out of luck outside of indies.

RIP real Mega Man

[Tasty]

Other M was atrocious. Dear god what a horrible game.

I'm definitely staying away from it, considering I didn't even finish Prime 3 or Super Metroid. Me and the Metroid series... seems like we don't mix.

I was mostly talking about how Nintendo barely released any games I really liked on the Wii.

That isn't what you said. You were implying Nintendo made a bunch of abhorrent games for Wii, which is quite different from just not making a game.

OK I forgot about DKCR, which I loved. But NSMBW difficult? Oh fuck no. It was fun but it was a diversion for the most part.

Did you beat World 9?

Yeah no, Zelda games have been getting easier. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword while good, definitely were easier than each predecessor. So seeing that direction of handholding and simpler puzzles isn't hard to imagine it will keep going like that.

I wasn't talking about difficulty; again, you're equating difficulty with quality. I'm not saying they have nothing to do with eachother, but a hard game just for the sake of being hard is just as stupid as an easy game (see, IWBTG, ROMhacks, etc.)

I would also say Skyward Sword was probably slightly more difficult than TP, but not when it came to the puzzles, just overall (mostly due to the combat.)

The funny thing is that games in general have been getting easier and easier, it's just that Nintendo, rather than try to hide it, seems to tie a pink ribbon around it and delicately wrap it in Christmas lights.

But I guess data shows that easier games sell better, so people like us who cut their teeth on bitch hard games are mostly out of luck outside of indies.

RIP real Mega Man

MM9 and 10 came out this gen.

Companies don't seem to have trouble releasing hard games if the game is cheap enough to make.

[Tasty]

We're not likely to get a Megaman anything for a while, I didn't say otherwise.

But yeah, probably was an empty statement.

[Takao]

Nah man, I'm sure we'll get MegaMan Poker, and Soccer on iOS soon.

[Purple Filth]

who is megaman 

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Yeah no, Zelda games have been getting easier. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword while good, definitely were easier than each predecessor. So seeing that direction of handholding and simpler puzzles isn't hard to imagine it will keep going like that.

Twilight Princess was slightly harder than Wind Waker, and Skyward Sword seemed harder again (as far as I could be bothered playing).  This is in terms of getting game over screens.  In terms of puzzle-confusion-bottlenecks the games also seem to be getting harder and harder, which they tried to 'solve' by outright telling you what to do in Skyward Sword - which suggests to me that the people making Zelda games are just amateur incompetents who have no business making games at all.

The problem with difficulty in games seems to be some companies just can't accept their game fits into a niche.  This is probably due to the evils of being a publicly traded company, where that is never an acceptable reason to people who are always looking to 'maximise' their money and have little appreciation for how markets outside the stock market work. 
Nintendo has historically been really good at making games that are one-difficulty-suits-all, but the Zelda team is just worthless despite Zelda being the perfect game design for the philosophy.  It's simple: Make combat a bit more challenging than baby-stupid (combat hasn't  been the part that people get stuck on since Zelda 2!) - monsters in Zelda are basically mini-puzzles anyway.  Skyward Sword is an actual improvement here, mostly, though the motion control is obnoxiously flaky.  Make tricky puzzles block access to optional stuff like heart pieces and keep basic progression blocked by only moderately challenging puzzles.  Pretty simple, but quite beyond the nitwits put in charge of these games.

[TakingBackSunday]

Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles.  Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.

Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.

RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON

MM > OoT > Oracle titles > TP > SS > WW > LA > MC > LttP > ST > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2 > PH

[Himu]

Why do internet warriors wank over WW? I like WW but come on. It's not the best of anything, and I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.

[benjipwns]

I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.

Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.

As for WW, I love it for its build up to Hyrule and partly the finish. But it's not like it's Link's Awakening or anything.

[Himu]

I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.

Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.

NEVER FORGET

[Tasty]

Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles.  Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.

Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.

RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON

MM > OoT > Oracle titles > TP > SS > WW > LA > MC > LttP > ST > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2 > PH

LttP so low and one sneeze away from ST? Leper this filth.

 

[Human Snorenado]

I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.

Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.

NEVER FORGET

RIP POCKETFUDGE

[Himu]

I traveled every tile on that map - willingly - before the triforce hunt even began.

Me too, but we're the type that wants proper gas-tank-play in Saints Row.

NEVER FORGET

RIP POCKETFUDGE

[Human Snorenado]

Game is so good.  WTF ever happened to pocketfudge anyway?  Is he still posting under a new name?  I can't keep up with all y'all fuckers.

[Himu]

Pocket Fudge is Hitler, bro.

[D3RANG3D]

Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles.  Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.

Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.

RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON

LA> Oracle> MM> OOT> MC> LTTP> LOZ> LOZ2> WW> TP>>>>>> Poop>SS>PH> ST

FTFY

[bachikarn]

Skyward Sword was the hardest Zelda game since the Oracle titles.  Not throw your controller hard, but I lost tons of hearts and died a few times during boss battles and dungeons.

Wind Waker was easy as fucking hell.

RATINGS FOR NO GOOD REASON

MM > OoT > Oracle titles > TP > SS > WW > LA > MC > LttP > ST > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2 > PH

LttP so low and one sneeze away from ST? Leper this filth.

 

Says the kid who has never finished Super Metroid

[Tasty]

I'm in the progress of finishing it OK! It'll be the first game I beat whenever Ninty flips the switch on VC->Wii U transfers.

[benjipwns]

How many of the Metroids have you played?

[Tasty]

How many of the Metroids have you played?

Err, um, this is a trap right.

I think... uh... four. And the one I liked best, will probably get tomatoes thrown at me.

[D3RANG3D]

How many of the Metroids have you played?

Err, um, this is a trap right.

I think... uh... four. And the one I liked best, will probably get tomatoes thrown at me.

Spill!

[Tasty]

Not gonna enjoy this.


4. Metroid Prime 3
3. Super Metroid
2. Metroid Fusion

spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Metroid Prime Hunters

[close]

[D3RANG3D]

Not gonna enjoy this.


4. Metroid Prime 3
3. Super Metroid
2. Metroid Fusion

spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Metroid Prime Hunters

[close]

You are no Nintendo fan

[Tasty]

>_<

It's hard catching up on stuff you missed OK?

[D3RANG3D]

>_<

It's hard catching up on stuff you missed OK?

It's called an emulator, google it

[Takao]

So do you think Metroid is a bad series? If Hunters is your favourite of that bunch ... yeash.

[benjipwns]

Err, um, this is a trap right.

I think... uh... four. And the one I liked best, will probably get tomatoes thrown at me.

No, I was actually just wondering since you were going to play Super Metroid through.

Shame you have to wait eight years between doing that and seeing Metroid Prime for the first time though.

Check out Zero Mission btw.

The Hunters thing is really unforgivable however.

>_<

It's hard catching up on stuff you missed OK?

Did you snag the Trilogy?

[Tasty]

So do you think Metroid is a bad series? If Hunters is your favourite of that bunch ... yeash.

Prime 3 I really enjoyed until it told me to backtrack the entire game and collect 12 or whatever McGuffins. Until that point I was blasting through it and probably would have beaten it within a week of playing. I dropped it like it was hot at that point.

Super Metroid I think I'm lost in. I guess that's the appeal of the series.

Metroid Fusion I LOVED THE HELL out of but never finished since it wasn't my copy of the game.

Hunters came out at just the right time for me. Even playing it I realized the game was mostly soulless, with way too much repeated content, but the single player was still OK, some nice puzzles. Loved the controls. Became addicted to the online for like a month.

[Tasty]

Check out Zero Mission btw.

Soon as it hits the 3DS VC.

The Hunters thing is really unforgivable however.

Hunters doesn't play to the Metroid series strengths too well, but its a solid game with a mostly undeserved bad rap.

Did you snag the Trilogy?

Had Prime 3 and had yet to beat it, figured what's the point? And I heard the backtracking was even more tedious in the first two games.

[benjipwns]

Prime 3 I really enjoyed until it told me to backtrack the entire game and collect 12 or whatever McGuffins. Until that point I was blasting through it and probably would have beaten it within a week of playing. I dropped it like it was hot at that point.

Super Metroid I think I'm lost in. I guess that's the appeal of the series.

Had Prime 3 and had yet to beat it, figured what's the point? And I heard the backtracking was even more tedious in the first two games.

Yeah, Metroid might not be your series. 

Didn't mean to call you out, I was just curious since I hadn't seen you really mention it before.

Zero Mission might help you into the series, I think it's a pretty good introduction game.

EDIT: Metroid's my top Nintendo series, I bought a Wii basically for Corruption.

[Tasty]

I should just go back and play the first NES Metroid. Draw maps and all that stuff, the whole works. I mean, I beat Kid Icarus without much trouble...

[Trent Dole]

Play Zero Mission. NES Metroid brought up to modern standards.

[Himu]

zero mission is the best metroid.

[benjipwns]

Zero isn't the best, but it is the best way to show someone how Metroid works.

And it's fun to romp through if you just need a little Metroid fix.

[maxy]

To lazy to bump some PS3 thread but there is some rumor about 12GB(yes,12GB) PS3 revealed at TGS.

http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/45831/New+12GB+PS3+coming%3F/

Next move,selling PS3 in parts.

Must be some kind of competition,the less storage space the better.

[archnemesis]

If they can get a low price tag on it, then it's a really smart move by Sony.

[maxy]

apparently $200 or little lower

As for smart,dunno.Lower price is good,but it can also heavily backfire if system is gimped too much.

To me this just show how console makers really live in the past,no wonder that console business is slowly crumbling down.Storage space should not be a luxury item in this growing DD age.
I'm starting to believe certain PS4 rumor---no storage space by default,just like Vita*


*
Vita has some storage on board,locked for system purposes