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Tasty · « **Reply #2820 on:** October 09, 2012, 12:05:35 AM »

More like an anti-fan. Never really liked Ancel and his pompous frenchy face.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #2821 on:** October 09, 2012, 03:37:32 PM »

Not a fan of the implication that yoshi touch and go wasn't a fun pseudo platformer, make a great eshop game actually. Am a fan of the Ancel bashing,

Beyond Good and Evil

Tasty · « **Reply #2822 on:** October 09, 2012, 05:06:47 PM »

EmCee

Ancel

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #2823 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:12:48 PM »

I agreeeeeeeeee

Oblivion · « **Reply #2824 on:** October 10, 2012, 06:56:05 PM »

http://newsupermariobrosu.nintendo.com/

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"Experience Mario like never before... in full 1080p HD, only on the Wii U console!"

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2825 on:** October 10, 2012, 06:58:13 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #2826 on:** October 10, 2012, 09:32:08 PM »

pilonv1 · « **Reply #2827 on:** October 11, 2012, 12:51:44 AM »

:nfsw that shit andy

Tasty · « **Reply #2828 on:** October 11, 2012, 12:53:29 AM »

What it's just some banana juice.

maxy · « **Reply #2829 on:** October 11, 2012, 02:47:17 AM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2830 on:** October 11, 2012, 05:09:05 AM »

Wii U's superior heat reduction is gonna make NSMB U so much more fun that the earlier games!

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2831 on:** October 11, 2012, 05:46:53 AM »

This is it people: the future is here.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #2832 on:** October 11, 2012, 09:51:11 AM »

cool breeze · « **Reply #2833 on:** October 11, 2012, 10:24:30 AM »

I ended up preordering the premium pack, just in case I decide I want it later and there's a shortage or something. Some questions for those who've been keeping up:

has anything been said about how you transfer Wii data to the Wii U (VC games and locked saves like Smash Bros Brawl)?

can you play Wii/VC games on the controller? I heard about a "Wii mode," whatever that is.

does everything just use standard bluetooth connections like the Wii remote? that pro controller could be great for PC games if it works. And does the pro controller have rumble and analog shoulder buttons?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #2834 on:** October 11, 2012, 10:46:36 AM »

I heard they ditched BT for cheaper 2.4ghz stuff so it can catch interference from wireless phones and routers.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #2835 on:** October 11, 2012, 03:39:25 PM »

my wife is portuguese too

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #2836 on:** October 11, 2012, 05:20:29 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on October 11, 2012, 03:39:25 PM

my wife is portuguese too

bro fists!

Positive Touch · « **Reply #2837 on:** October 11, 2012, 05:41:34 PM »

im part portuguese too will you guys marry me

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #2838 on:** October 12, 2012, 07:19:33 AM »

you can be the middle patty in our Big Mac-bang

Barry Egan · « **Reply #2839 on:** October 12, 2012, 07:42:55 AM »

Oblivion · « **Reply #2840 on:** October 12, 2012, 08:12:18 AM »

Knew it was a typo.

Nintendo

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2841 on:** October 12, 2012, 09:14:36 AM »

But it's still in 1080w.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #2842 on:** October 12, 2012, 09:17:15 AM »

1080u

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2843 on:** October 12, 2012, 09:46:20 AM »

It's 480p! That's technically HD, guys!!

Tasty · « **Reply #2844 on:** October 12, 2012, 10:28:45 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 12, 2012, 09:46:20 AM

It's 480p! That's technically HD, guys!!

cool breeze · « **Reply #2845 on:** October 12, 2012, 12:18:58 PM »

Technically it's 720p + 480p since it's doing stuff on the TV and controller screen. Smaller hit than 1080p (or 720p 3D). But it's...something something.

I wonder if there's going to be a thing where some games suffer/benefit from playing with two/one screen. There are a few PS3/360 games that run smoother at a lower resolution.

Tasty · « **Reply #2846 on:** October 12, 2012, 12:31:17 PM »

Quote from: fryinghigh on October 12, 2012, 12:18:58 PM

Technically it's 720p + 480p since it's doing stuff on the TV and controller screen. Smaller hit than 1080p (or 720p 3D). But it's...something something.

I wonder if there's going to be a thing where some games suffer/benefit from playing with two/one screen. There are a few PS3/360 games that run smoother at a lower resolution.

Almost definitely.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #2847 on:** October 13, 2012, 12:57:39 AM »

Quote from: DCharlieJP on October 11, 2012, 05:20:29 PM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on October 11, 2012, 03:39:25 PM
my wife is portuguese too

bro fists!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #2848 on:** October 13, 2012, 01:25:14 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on October 12, 2012, 09:17:15 AM

1080u

1080w(himsy)

1080p dreams crushed everywhere this week

http://gotgame.com/2012/10/12/activision-says-wii-u-version-of-black-ops-2-not-natively-1080p/

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Nintendo fans have no doubt been excited about Activision’s Call of Duty: Black Ops II making its way onto the Nintendo Wii U next month (Nov. 18 to be exact).

However, after the publisher had previously stated that the game could run at 60fps and at 1080p, gamers have been asking the question as to whether or not that 1080p is native or if the console will upconvert it.

Today, Activision confirmed to us via email that “The game is not natively 1080p”, which of course means that it’s the Wii U that will be able to upconvert it, since the system supports the format.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #2849 on:** October 13, 2012, 05:11:16 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 13, 2012, 01:25:14 AM

Quote from: Zero Hero on October 12, 2012, 09:17:15 AM
1080u

1080w(himsy)

1080p dreams crushed everywhere this week

http://gotgame.com/2012/10/12/activision-says-wii-u-version-of-black-ops-2-not-natively-1080p/

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Nintendo fans have no doubt been excited about Activision’s Call of Duty: Black Ops II making its way onto the Nintendo Wii U next month (Nov. 18 to be exact).

However, after the publisher had previously stated that the game could run at 60fps and at 1080p, gamers have been asking the question as to whether or not that 1080p is native or if the console will upconvert it.

Today, Activision confirmed to us via email that “The game is not natively 1080p”, which of course means that it’s the Wii U that will be able to upconvert it, since the system supports the format.

i really hope they didn't believe it was native.

benjipwns · « **Reply #2850 on:** October 13, 2012, 05:22:34 AM »

I was reading elsewhere that 720p is higher than every game on the 360/PS3.

Besides, most people can't even tell the difference, their HDTV probably is only 720p or plugged in with component or will scale it up. I'm sure there's a limit to how many pixels the human eye can see anyway, you know how you can't see over 24 fps which leaves everything above it looking fake?

And with all the extra shaders and tech you don't want to waste it on 1080p when you can put out something that looks fantastic at less.

Plus, it's not like you can easily just scale games up, you can't just flip a switch or change a number and render a game at a higher resolution. Those are tons of development resources that will be wasted on making all these extra pixels instead of fine tuning the gameplay. I think Nintendo understands which one is going to get more people to actually PLAY the games.

maxy · « **Reply #2851 on:** October 13, 2012, 06:20:24 AM »

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I was reading elsewhere that 720p is higher than every game on the 360/PS3.

Stop visiting ninthing infested sites.Large majority of PS360 games are 720p native.

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Besides, most people can't even tell the difference, their HDTV probably is only 720p or plugged in with component or will scale it up. I'm sure there's a limit to how many pixels the human eye can see anyway, you know how you can't see over 24 fps which leaves everything above it looking fake?

And with all the extra shaders and tech you don't want to waste it on 1080p when you can put out something that looks fantastic at less.

Simply put,you suck.

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Plus, it's not like you can easily just scale games up, you can't just flip a switch or change a number and render a game at a higher resolution.

Of course you can(if you have enough VRAM),changing the res is the easiest thing to do these days.The problem is that framerate will drop.

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Those are tons of development resources that will be wasted on making all these extra pixels instead of fine tuning the gameplay. I think Nintendo understands which one is going to get more people to actually PLAY the games.

Not touching this.

Third · « **Reply #2852 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:57:21 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on October 13, 2012, 05:22:34 AM

Those are tons of development resources that will be wasted on making all these extra pixels instead of fine tuning the gameplay. I think Nintendo understands which one is going to get more people to actually PLAY the games.

Fine tuning the gameplay? Nintendo must've missed the memo when developing the Wii.

The majority of Wii games control like utter shit.

Ugly graphics and shitty controls: Nintendo
Sure, a lot of people play Nintendo's games. But the majority of people have very low standards. It's the same with McDonnalds.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2853 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:01:57 AM »

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #2854 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:02:49 AM »

The reality -surely- has to be dawning in on Nthings now about where the power of the Wii U sits?

The "Imagine if it's as powerful as the next gen" "It'll be getting downports because it's so powerful" and other fantastic flights of fantasy are surely now a bunch of blood stained feathers on the ground... surely?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #2855 on:** October 13, 2012, 09:14:22 AM »

epic work from benji on this page. maxy annihilated

benjipwns · « **Reply #2856 on:** October 13, 2012, 12:04:25 PM »

Look, Nintendo clearly did vast research and realized that optimizing existing hardware so that it could best serve superior gameplay purposes AND fit in a rational form factor was the best course of action rather than just throwing as many complex parts as they could quickly get their hands on in a jumble until they filled up something the size of a VCR. And I certainly trust their studied engineers over some random forum boobs on what will actually deliver the most sophisticated gameplay possible.

And really, if you want to actually be objective about the WiiU you have to realize that few of these games shown and talked about were actually built for the ground up on the WiiU let alone around its amazing capabilities. A lot of them are ports and you can't just take something built for the 360, shove it onto another platform and get it running better without months of serious hard work to optimize it to the new hardware. This simply isn't possible.

The real test will be when Nintendo gets their hands on the hardware and starts applying their unmatched knowledge to revolutionize gameplay. Not when Activision and THQ and Rocksteady and so on just port over old outdated boring tech and game design. Maybe those companies won't go out and apply themselves to the new paradigms Nintendo is presenting once they can escape the shackles of last gen. But that's not a slight on what Nintendo has designed here. It's just confirmation about what we should already know about their imaginations.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2857 on:** October 13, 2012, 12:11:36 PM »

Third · « **Reply #2858 on:** October 13, 2012, 01:33:50 PM »

The WiiU was outdated in 2005. Have fun playing Ps360 ports until the new Playstation and Xbox arrive.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2859 on:** October 13, 2012, 03:07:24 PM »

Quote from: Third on October 13, 2012, 01:33:50 PM

The WiiU was outdated in 2005. Have fun playing Ps360 ports until the new Playstation and Xbox arrive.

I will.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

On my PC.

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DCharlieJP · « **Reply #2860 on:** October 13, 2012, 05:19:59 PM »

the Wollan picture needs updated to show the Wii U mobile driving around and around the "Next gen, you made it!" empty campsite before parking up

Tasty · « **Reply #2861 on:** October 13, 2012, 05:29:50 PM »

Quote from: Third on October 13, 2012, 01:33:50 PM

The WiiU was outdated in 2005. Have fun playing Ps360 ports until the new Playstation and Xbox arrive.

Don't forget Vita ports!

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #2862 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:12:26 PM »

You make a good point actually Andrex :

Previous tech bracket : 3DS, Wii, Xbox, PS2, GC, PSP
current tech bracket : X360, PS3, Wii U, Vita

the Vita and Wii U add two extra potential streams for companies who don't want to shift off current tech - so maybe the Wii U can help the Vita? I mean - if you're a 3rd party you might as well port across to Vita then you can have a chance of hitting at least two platforms where you games aren't going to sell rather than just one.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #2863 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:17:15 PM »

Finally, a use for the Wii U.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #2864 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:21:50 PM »

wow, that gaf wii u spec thread is DELUSIONAL

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #2865 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:30:48 PM »

i can already see a few people shifting over to the "Nintendo has brought innovation rather than just bringing over MORE PIXELS"

... the punchline to all this is so hilariously funny that even THAT argument is going to get tossed out of the window as well.

Heartbrake truck coming to Nintendo town - i would be jumping straight to : "Well, Nintendo 1st party games are the best games ever" as my prime pro-Nintendo argument.

Also - i love the "you have to give the Wii U -two years- for it to show it's potential over the X360/PS3" crowd.
hooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit.

Iwata : Last gen starts when we say it does.

Oblivion · « **Reply #2866 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:33:16 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on October 13, 2012, 07:21:50 PM

wow, that gaf wii u spec thread is DELUSIONAL

Do you have any info on how powerful the CPU's supposed to be?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #2867 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:43:14 PM »

yes? it's a downclocked iteration of the power7 with a castrated cache and 3 or 4 cores (i think one's disabled). it's a "celeron" take on the ppc. it's refined versus the 360 cpu (same arch), but is slightly more than half the clocks. supposedly the embedded bus supports broadway instructions but i got a) no idea how that works, and b) no idea how someone that isn't nintendo or ibm would know that. it sounds garbage relative to modern cpus.

more annoying are the gpgpu fantasies. PRETTY sure the gpu is an embedded radeon (e4670 or something) DESIGNED for low power graphic devices. it's not gonna do general ANYTHING. nintendo's requirements are a) low power draw; b) bulk price; and c) heat emission. actual processing power falls somewhere between buttplug attachments and unicorn fart noises in their engineering priority list.

altogether, for PRACTICAL consideration, it's a 360+. it'll do 360 games with a full 720p frame buffer and better textures, and with better quality shader effects. it'll eventually have the best versions of the remaining 360/ps3 port opportunities. you know, what pc gamers got back in 2007.

Oblivion · « **Reply #2868 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:49:26 PM »

u jelly, drinky?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #2869 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:55:43 PM »

oh no, i know what next gen holds

i have such sights to show you

Third · « **Reply #2870 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:57:18 PM »

I really don't see what's so innovative about the WiiU.
The original Wii had motion controls - albeit very shitty ones. But still, it was newish and refreshing. Our moms and grandparents really loved it, before they dumped it in their closet.

But the WiiU being innovative?
And don't mention the tablet as being something that's innovative btw. You'll only embarrass yourself.

The only innovative thing about the WiiU are the new lame excuses coming from the ntards. Their delusions are always a sight to behold.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #2871 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:57:37 PM »

WEEEOOOOOOOOO~~~

Oblivion · « **Reply #2872 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:58:45 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on October 13, 2012, 07:55:43 PM

oh no, i know what next gen holds

i have such sights to show you

So I guess all those rumors of Wii-U being 5-6X more powerful than a 360 were bunk. :'( Real shame, though at least it has double the RAM, which I guess is...something?

:'(

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #2873 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:26:23 PM »

Just think of all the exciting new content and new worlds and experiences they can fit into all that RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Third · « **Reply #2874 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:43:44 PM »

Yes, Nintendo could finally release a NSMB game with decent backgrounds thanks to all that RAM. I'm sure those backgrounds are the main reason why the game couldn't be 1080p. They look sooo gooodd

Damian79 · « **Reply #2875 on:** October 13, 2012, 09:59:47 PM »

Meh the last 2 pages of this thread are distinguished mentally-challenged. For me Nintendo own monolithsoft, I need the wiiu for their game alone.

Tasty · « **Reply #2876 on:** October 13, 2012, 10:08:21 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on October 13, 2012, 09:59:47 PM

Meh the last 2 pages of this thread are distinguished mentally-challenged. For me Nintendo own monolithsoft, I need the wiiu for their game alone.

Basically.

"Wii U fanboys on GAF are sooo delusional OMG.

"

"Water is soooo wet OMG.

"

Who cares?

Barry Egan · « **Reply #2877 on:** October 14, 2012, 12:50:43 PM »

It matters because deflating the fantasies of people who have a motivated interest in deceiving themselves is the secondary pleasure of the internet, after pornography. Duh.

headwalk · « **Reply #2878 on:** October 14, 2012, 01:05:54 PM »

it's a cute irony that game consoles, original pushers of bleeding edge computer tech in the home, are now the only high end tech purchase which enthusiasts make without any knowledge of specs.

nintendo should sell cars. fuck your max torque.

benjipwns · « **Reply #2879 on:** October 14, 2012, 01:18:51 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on October 13, 2012, 10:08:21 PM

Basically.

"Wii U fanboys on GAF are sooo delusional OMG. "

"Water is soooo wet OMG. "

Who cares?

Exactly. I was trying to tell these guys and they don't believe the basic facts, they're all LOOK AT THE PIXEL SHADERS. Nobody who was buying the Wii or Guitar Hero or the DS were caring about any of that tech crap. They wanted solid and innovative gameplay.

Nintendo was out there at the forefront bringing in all these people who didn't care about video games but loved Wii Sports and all the other active gaming visions. Now, they're pivoting and giving the hardcore something that matches what they know. It's the best of both worlds. They deliver the innovative gameplay on one hand, and also supply fantastic modern tech at a budget price on the other.

Yet all these dopes can do is whine that it's not good enough when it's better than anything that exists currently. It's a fucking joke when not only the tech but the gameplay bring the Nintendo know-how instead of the Sony budget-busting auteur or Microsoft corporate vomit.

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