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[Mr. Gundam]

I'd call a tree falling on my house more than just a first world problem. 

[Joe Molotov]

I'd call a tree falling on my house more than just a first world problem. 

If you lived in Poland, you probably wouldn't have a house, college boy!

[Van Cruncheon]

And you know there's no chance the Kinect next gen isn't part of the 720

it's not. Sorry.

uh, what?

[Tasty]

Source battle!!!

[Mr. Gundam]

Snarky comments will only make them stronger and more ferocious.

[Tasty]

Nobody finds it funny that two of the "insiders" of the boards have sources directly contradicting eachother? Just me? That's OK. I'll keep smarming about it.

[Human Snorenado]

I'd call a tree falling on my house more than just a first world problem. 

If you lived in Poland, you probably wouldn't have a house, college boy!

If you lived in Poland, that tree probably WAS your house.

[Mr. Gundam]

Nobody finds it funny that two of the "insiders" of the boards have sources directly contradicting eachother? Just me? That's OK. I'll keep smarming about it.

We find it funny, but not in the same way that you find it funny.

[Tasty]

I think.... it's pretty funny.

[benjipwns]

DCharlie might have missed my further statement about it being a bundle. Or he thought I meant the Kinect would be the focus.

That's why I clarified about there possibly being a Kinect bundle and "hardcore" bundle. Like we've had the gimped 360 and the useful ones.

I have zero insider information. Or all the insider information. I report. You decide.

[Tasty]

I trust your sources Benji.

[Great Rumbler]

I'll warrant that nobody one The Bore knows more about what goes on behind the scenes in the games industry than Prole and DCharlie. Andrex certainly doesn't.

[Tasty]

I'll warrant that nobody one The Bore knows more about what goes on behind the scenes in the games industry than Prole and DCharlie. Andrex certainly doesn't.

That's the whole point. They know so much, and yet apparently, one of them doesn't.

[benjipwns]

I'll warrant that nobody one The Bore knows more about what goes on behind the scenes in the games industry than Prole and DCharlie. Andrex certainly doesn't.

Do you mean about things regarding gaming itself? Because I've seen some pictures...

[Tasty]

Someone mad.

[Tasty]

Borys you can't kill yourself, your family can't afford the coffin. :'( Impromptu cremation it is then.

[Joe Molotov]

I know stuff, man. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

[Van Cruncheon]

in this case, i am both cocktease and cocksauce!

[MCD]

I like to pretend being a MS insider



OH GOD THE THOUGHT OF ACTUALLY BEING ONE OH SURFACE GOD ZUNE

[Owl-faced Wizard]

I can't imagine they're gonna stick a kinect in every 720 box.  There will be a pack-in though.

[DCharlieJP]

sorry - i missed all the fun drama. Awww.

To clarify, i don't believe that Next Gen Kinect is going to be bundled with every machine, was what i was getting at.

Who was upset? Oh Andrex? Ah never mind. 


And yeah - there's people who know WAAAAAAAAAY more than the minute amounts of stuff i get to hear about. I'm just more of a d1ck than those people.

[Tasty]

How in the world do you get "upset" from my posts?

[pilonv1]

You're more transparent than you think

[Van Cruncheon]

THAT IS PROBABLY A SAFE ASSUMPTION

[MCD]

I SAW THAT EDIT VAN

I KNOW YOUR DARKEST SURFACE

[Tasty]

You're more transparent than you think

What does that mean?

[Momo]

I think I said before I have sources at some video game companies, we speak very often heck I've been friends with some of them since I was 5. I usually try to steer convo away from video games though, it's kinda awkward for me since I have been friends with most since before vidya D:

[Human Snorenado]

I'm a regular participant on a podcast heard by literally tens of people that also features a soon to be jailed (for crimes against good taste and humanity... you know, listening to Tool) MSFT employee.

...I know absolutely nothing however and try to keep it that way.

[Momo]

It's way safer for friendships to just try and keep the topic of conversation away from gaming

[DCharlieJP]

the big thing i learned about 5-6 years ago is knowing about all the "SECRUTE!" stuff is ultimately boring

PLUS - things are constantly in flux, there's stuff that happens, then unhappens, then happens again, or changes.

See: Halo DS for instance and the fallout from that whole thing.

I don't move in the same circles anymore so i hear less and less and in some cases have actively asked to NOT be told. I like the hobby from the perspective of a gamer, though that is sadly becoming less and less active (which is why i'm at a "SELL EVERYTHING!" state again)

 

[naff]

I can't imagine they're gonna stick a kinect in every 720 box.  There will be a pack-in though.

Why? It's just like Wiis sensor bar except more expensive. Offload all processing to the console it's just a camera and IR projector/sensor. I have no sources but always seemed likely to me that kinect will be included with 720 considering how well it did, it got MS the title of having the fastest selling consumer electronics device ever after all. Then again, that could be a reason to not include it to charge more as an accessory to people who want it, wouldn't be surprised if you'll be able to use the old Kinect too since the tech there's pretty decent and mainly limited on 360 by the lack of processing  available. I guess, giving it more thought, it seems like a toss up depending on where MS predict to make more money and looking at 360 they like to have pretty stripped back SKUs. Kinect seems bogus by all accounts to me, some of the most frustrating gaming I've experienced this gen. The idea a camera+sensor is the input of the future for games no matter how good the tech is, is laughable

[tiesto]

I can't imagine they're gonna stick a kinect in every 720 box.  There will be a pack-in though.

I could see 2 tiers - a regular, barebones one and a kinect one with a bigger HD and more shit. Never really got into Kinect much, tried playing Child of Eden on it and just wasn't feeling it...

[Raban]

Oh yeah, I remember hearing some rumblings about Halo on the DS. That sounds like a sweet idea, especially if Bungie was involved. Too bad it never came to light.

[archnemesis]

Maybe that would raise the bundle price above the mainstream consumer threshold?

[archnemesis]

Apparently $599 was too expensive, so I guess maybe $499 is the limit for a high-end console. With a Kinect 2.0 included that means the core system would be approximately $349-399.

[Tasty]

IMO $500 is the threshold.

[Great Rumbler]

I heard that Andrex literally has binders full of sources.

[Human Snorenado]

$400 is the threshold, and that's pushing it tbh.

[Tasty]

$400 is the threshold, and that's pushing it tbh.

$400 is much better than 500+, yeah.

[bork]

I like the hobby from the perspective of a gamer, though that is sadly becoming less and less active (which is why i'm at a "SELL EVERYTHING!" state again)

But you're going to buy like every release for the Wii U!   

[Mr. Gundam]

It's way safer for friendships to just try and keep the topic of conversation away from gaming

None of my friends are hardcore gamers and I'm pretty happy about that. Videogame convos in real life is just cripplingly cringe worthy. Why do you think I spend a lot of time on forums?

Same here. I've got friends who play L4D on Steam, but we never talk about it and I don't talk about my gaming with them.

[Human Snorenado]

You guys have it easy.  Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby.  Try still playing magic the gathering. 

[Mr. Gundam]

It's way safer for friendships to just try and keep the topic of conversation away from gaming

None of my friends are hardcore gamers and I'm pretty happy about that. Videogame convos in real life is just cripplingly cringe worthy. Why do you think I spend a lot of time on forums?

Same here. I've got friends who play L4D on Steam, but we never talk about it and I don't talk about my gaming with them.

Yep. If there's ever a chat about videogames, its either about whatever just came out or a "what's this?", "What are you supposed to do?", etc. when they see me playing something I haven't played before.

I'm a 22 year old college student, most of my friends conversations involve booze, pussy and college drama.

I'm a 31 year old married guy. Most of my friends conversations involve marriage, sports, beer, politics and movies.

[Tasty]

You guys have it easy.  Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby.  Try still playing magic the gathering. 

Try playing Yugioh. (I don't anymore but still get the urge every so often.)

[Mr. Gundam]

It's mostly sports and beer. Political conversations can get really ugly thanks to my conservative buddy. Marriage/relationship stuff comes up from time to time, but we don't sit around and complain about our significant others or anything.

[tiesto]

Depends on the people I'm talking to... lately it's been homeownership, women, sports, beer... and with one friend its politics amd crazy conspiracy theories (the Paul fan).

[Human Snorenado]

You guys have it easy.  Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby.  Try still playing magic the gathering. 

Try playing Yugioh. (I don't anymore but still get the urge every so often.)

Come on bro.  Have some standards.

[Cerveza mas fina]

It's mostly sports and beer. Political conversations can get really ugly thanks to my conservative buddy. Marriage/relationship stuff comes up from time to time, but we don't sit around and complain about our significant others or anything.

Soon

[Tasty]

You guys have it easy.  Video games are at least a somewhat socially acceptable hobby.  Try still playing magic the gathering. 

Try playing Yugioh. (I don't anymore but still get the urge every so often.)

Come on bro.  Have some standards.

I've resisted the urge for so long I don't think I'll start up, plus I'm cutting down on clutter and cards are some of the worst clutter. "Should I keep this card or get rid of it? It's super common and kind of dented in the corner, but I might need it for a set some day... "

I'd probably just play the knockoff Flash version. Then I could hide my shame in secret.

[Mr. Gundam]

That's the way it should be. All the happy good couples I know aren't what sitcoms would have you believe.

And I see how far off topic this got, so weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooo trololololol

We also rag on each other about our fantasy football league. Brew beer together, play board games, go hiking, watch awesome 80s movies, etc.

[Fifstar]

Is this a GAF post or are you serious Borys?

Because the WiiU being the new base standard would mean that there is no new standard, but the traditional business model of most third parties relies - for better or worse - on the wow factor of new hardware & better graphics. The WiiU doesn't offer what they need to give their business a new push.

And why would WiiU owners buy 360/ps3 ports, when they can get them for cheaper hardware except for some Nintards that suddenly get interesting in games after they appear on the hardware of their manufacturer of choice? I mean the sales for current games are bad enough as it is, why should this get better, just because of the controller?

Like Oscar said, the WiiU has only the Nintendo faithful as target audience right know (hey, better than the Vita, it has no target audience at all) and unless they come up with some kind of curveball like Wii Sports, it will be lucky to sell around N64 levels.

[DCharlieJP]

I'm a 31 year old married guy. Most of my friends conversations involve marriage, sports, beer, politics and movies.

So that's what I have to look forward to 9 years from now, eh? Assuming some poor unfortunate woman would make the conscious decision to marry me.

wait until you start reaching 40 - then you'll be talking about all the sex you aren't having, how the kids are doing, moaning about <tiny insignificant things at length>, moaning about the generations below you, work moaning, and , possibly, passing on the best new porn websites

Because the WiiU being the new base standard would mean that there is no new standard, but the traditional business model of most third parties relies - for better or worse - on the wow factor of new hardware & better graphics. The WiiU doesn't offer what they need to give their business a new push.

the CPU might come back to bite them in the arse a bit as well - the whole point was that X360->WiiU ports were going to be a doddle, if effort starts coming into it then you might see either "oh, that'll do" ports or people frankly not botter.

Also - why are Nthings selective with using historical cases? Next Mario etc is going to sell at Wii levels.... why not GC levels? I mean - now I am doing the same as them, but the point is that past performance is not a guarantee of future performance.

That said, i think the Wii U is going to do well regardless. Not Wii levels, but it'll get through.

[Fifstar]

Next Mario etc is going to sell at Wii levels.... why not GC levels? I mean - now I am doing the same as them, but the point is that past performance is not a guarantee of future performance.

I wonder if Nintendo is turning their ips into 'red ocean' zone. It feels like they rely on less and less ips with more games in a shorter timespan. I'm not sure myself if this true, they probably have some new ips that I just don't care much about. Their trumpcard of last gen, 2D Mario, definetly seems overdone at this point though. Given how they released 4 games in relative short order, their strongly similar asthetics and how they rely on the nostalgia factor (an itch that should be more than fixed by now), I can't imagine those repeating the sales of this gen.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I think gc level sales for mario aren't going to happen again because let's face it... sunshine was just off.

[Himu]

I think gc level sales for mario aren't going to happen again because let's face it... sunshine was just off.

[tiesto]

wait until you start reaching 40 - then you'll be talking about all the sex you aren't having, how the kids are doing, moaning about <tiny insignificant things at length>, moaning about the generations below you, work moaning, and , possibly, passing on the best new porn websites

This is what I pretty much talk about now (30 years old), aside from the part about the kids...

[pilonv1]

wait until you start reaching 40 - then you'll be talking about all the sex you aren't having, how the kids are doing, moaning about <tiny insignificant things at length>, moaning about the generations below you, work moaning, and , possibly, passing on the best new porn websites

This is what I pretty much talk about now (30 years old), aside from the part about the kids...

Same for me, but in between everything I have to hear "so when are you getting married" from our married friends. Fucking infuriating, feel like not doing it out of spite sometimes.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Only one of my friends plays games these days and it has been the same game since 2003.  He only plays Tiger Woods 2004 on his PS2.  None of my other friends play games.  At work, the average age of my coworkers is about 55 and they will think less of me if I talk about video games.  Forums is pretty much it and my gaming is a secret life.  Honestly, I'd rather admit to downloading porn and then jerking off to it than playing a video game.

[tiesto]

Only one of my friends plays games these days and it has been the same game since 2003.  He only plays Tiger Woods 2004 on his PS2.  None of my other friends play games.  At work, the average age of my coworkers is about 55 and they will think less of me if I talk about video games.  Forums is pretty much it and my gaming is a secret life.  Honestly, I'd rather admit to downloading porn and then jerking off to it than playing a video game.

IIRC, you work at an engineering firm? I'm surprised then, since I'm in the defense/aerospace field and work with people mainly in their 50's all the way up to their 80's... and quite a few of them are a bit familiar with games since they generally are interested in new technology/gadgetry.

I don't really cover up the fact that I play video games. The only problem is, because people know I like games they think I am interested in EVERY game and I give a fuck about their level 80 paladin in WoW, when my taste in games is rather "focused". I do wear game-themed (and music-themed) tshirts. I've gotten phone #s (not from your geek chick or raver chick, but from your typical generic Billy Joel-listnin', beach-goin', Yankee-watchin', Napper Tandy's-hangin' LI girl) wearing these shirts:







My best friend is a huge gamer who loves fighting games and oldskool games, a few others used to be into WoW a while back and occasionally I'll run into some acquaintances who are into some pretty surprising game series. The one kid who I work with who hasn't played games since the NES era and is mostly into sports and girl-chasing told me how much he loved Dragon Warrior back in the day. Was pretty shocked when I told him there were 9 more games in the series and that it's one of the most famous game series in Japan Or another kid I met at my friend's Super Bowl party, he got drunk and was talking with me about the Ultima series.

Of course, my friends and I all talk about porn and they all know about my love of the bush...

[MCD]

All my friends play vidya.

Probably why I am still a virgin.