Game

[Don Flamenco]

"Guys, every launch has hardware and software issues, this is all perfectly normal launch stuff." 


Except....the vita.


vita

such a smooth launch that nobody noticed

[archnemesis]

I guess they shipped it incomplete because they wanted to have it in stores before Thanksgiving. Hopefully they will have addressed most of the basic software issues before the Japanese launch.

[Tasty]

Don't know if there's correlation between power consumption and noise, but the Wii U is dead silent.  There's only a slight high pitch squeal when running games.  I think the Wii's drive made more noise.

Playing NSMBU from the eShop, there is like, absolutely no noise. I think if I put my ear up to it I might just barely here something. There's the empty-disc-initialization noise when the system starts, but otherwise, dead silent.

Then again NSMBU probably isn't very taxing, but all the taxing games on Wii made the disc drive dry-heave... hopefully I never have to hear anything like that since I'm going eShop-only.

[Don Flamenco]

[Tasty]

Wii Fit 2 wasn't even called Wii Fit 2, troll fails.

Also, I would totally not say ZombiU 2 is an inevitability.

[Sho Nuff]

Nuh uh, they're going to totally call it that and put Bono on the cover, Reggie told me

[G The Resurrected]

So my question still stands shall I open this thing or not? 

The missus wants to open it really badly but she just can't bring herself to opening it.

I ended up picking up an awesome deal today at Toysrus. I ended up paying $45 bucks for both Sega Allstar Racing and Scribblenauts Unlimited, thank you dumb employee. Also picked up ZombiU and of course Super Mario U.

[Sho Nuff]

So my question still stands shall I open this thing or not? 

The missus wants to open it really badly but she just can't bring herself to opening it.

I ended up picking up an awesome deal today at Toysrus. I ended up paying $45 bucks for both Sega Allstar Racing and Scribblenauts Unlimited, thank you dumb employee. Also picked up ZombiU and of course Super Mario U.

Flip it. Get scrilla. Buy games you won't have to find an excuse to like.

[Tasty]

If you already have the games what's stopping you?

I guess you could cut your losses but you'd probably not make your money back unless you find someone really dumb or desperate.

[archnemesis]

How much extra would you make if you sold it? I doubt it's worth the effort.

Open it up and enjoy some Nintendo Land with your wife instead.

[G The Resurrected]

The box is open! I heard laughing coming from somewhere, I think it was Reggie and co.

Resale in our area (Bay Area) is awful, the flippers aren't even getting $450 for it.

Time to enjoy some nintendo for like 5 minutes.

[Himu]

Resale in our area (Bay Area) is awful, the flippers aren't even getting $450 for it.

Bomb.

[maxy]

2GB DDR3 connected via 12.8 GB/s interface,amazing.1 GB taken for OS,massive load times

damn

[maxy]

[Steve Youngblood]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500440

I had an issue right at the beginning after updating and rebooting where nothing seemed to be happening. So, against my better judgement, I said "fuck it" and unplugged it and plugged it back in. Then, after being asked to create a Nintendo ID, there was a point where it just kind of hung on that generic white screen with moving silhouettes or whatever where it seemed to be trying to load the menu, but there was no progress circle in the bottom right, so after five minutes I once again unplugged it and plugged it in. After that, though, everything seemed fine? We'll see.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I know it's been said before, but I really can't figure out how this thing could have ended up worse then PS360 yet cost more.

I will enjoy this trainwreck.

Just gonna put this here:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/

Wow so NOW they admit they have just given up on online. Amazing.

[ToxicAdam]

I buy every Nintendo console, but I wait 4-5 years after it's been out. I never feel ripped off and I always have a ton of games to play. The only Nintendo system I ever bought at launch was the original NES. Even that was a shitty first year until Zelda/Metroid came out.

[bork]

I know it's been said before, but I really can't figure out how this thing could have ended up worse then PS360 yet cost more.

I will enjoy this trainwreck.

Just gonna put this here:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/

Wow so NOW they admit they have just given up on online. Amazing.

Wow indeed- maybe I won't end up buying this system at all down the road. 

[Cerveza mas fina]

The strange thing is Iwata says they are too far behind, but the real reason is that they don't want unified accounts because then they can't resell you the same games again and again and prevent you from selling consoles or whatever.

[maxy]

If you eject the disc while playing a game you get this

[Cerveza mas fina]

Every time?

[maxy]

Looks that way.

I guess programmers didn't have the time

[Stoney Mason]

All that stuff while shitty doesn't really bother me. I expect nintendo to not get online and fuck it up. I expect them to be cheap bastards and skimp on the hardware. That stuff is consistent for them.

It's still a larger problem for me that I'm beyond playing new versions of super Mario bros, mariokart, and even the better stuff like Zelda.

[Cerveza mas fina]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24

 

[Don Flamenco]

 


oh wiiu, i wish i had another day to sit around and laugh

Wii Fit 2 wasn't even called Wii Fit 2, troll fails.

Also, I would totally not say ZombiU 2 is an inevitability.

of course you responded to that pic like that, humorless console warrior

[naff]

[maxy]

Kosma

DF WiiU review(interesting stuff)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-nintendo-wii-u-review

The good news is that Nintendo's debut HD offering features a standard HDMI connection, meaning compatibility with virtually any high-definition display made in the last six years. Better still is the fact that the company isn't selling us short in terms of connectivity: yes, no trips to Poundland are required here, because an HDMI cable is included in the box.

Adding to the good news is that Nintendo hasn't encrypted the digital output of the Wii U. There's no HDCP implementation, meaning that you can connect the Wii U to older DVI monitors with no support for the nigh-on useless digital encryption system. Probably of more relevance is that you can easily record video directly from HDMI using devices such as the Elgato Game Capture HD and the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 if you're looking to share gameplay on YouTube.

Nintendo appears to have taken a leaf out of Microsoft's book in terms of how various screen resolutions are dealt with. All of the games we've tested to date appear to operate at native 720p, but just like Xbox 360 the console outputs at any resolution you select, upscaling - or indeed downscaling - to your preferred video format. We'd have liked a 1366x768 option for native output for "HD ready" panels, but the available options are fine overall.

However, there is some unwelcome news - specifically that the HDMI output is locked to limited-range RGB only, with footage from all games we've captured thus far revealing absolutely no information in the 0-16 or 235-255 areas. Many digital displays - PC monitors in particular - don't operate correctly with limited-range RGB, giving washed out colours principally defined by blacks being more grey-like in nature. This is something Nintendo really needs to address as a matter of urgency - it's the most basic of omissions, something that Sony and Microsoft resolved to everyone's satisfaction many, many years ago.

Bizarrely, for a console launching when digital video standards are established and mature, many users may well find that they get a more vibrant picture by using the legacy component outputs.

[Don Flamenco]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44513231&postcount=1181

Seriously though, I'd like to see a $349 build that is capable of outperforming the Wii U.
Throw in a tablet of equivalent resolution to the Wii U tablet to make things fair.

So...build a $339 PC, pick up a palm pilot at goodwill for $10.  done.

[tiesto]

The giant bomb guys raging at nintendo was awesome

link?

It's at 4:44 of the live stream, when they realize that each Nintendo ID is tied indefinitely to the Wii U on which it was created.

Seriously? They still haven't learned their lesson? Oh my god...

[Purple Filth]

For the people wondering if that Miiverse backdoor thing was real Eurogamer confirms it was after talking to Nintendo. Plus they also say the contents were a mockup to shut up the people asking about those games.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-19-wii-u-user-able-to-access-mock-up-menu-with-unannounced-games

Nintendo has admitted the area existed and termed it a "mock-up menu" of content. The area was quickly removed when the user began posting screenshots and information to NeoGAF.

"It has come to our attention that some people were able to access a mock up menu on Miiverse following the launch of Wii U in the US," Nintendo told GamesIndustry International. "Please note that this was only a mock up menu and has now been removed and is not accessible."

So apologize to the poster Takao

[tiesto]

[Tasty]

Man, that Verge review is so right and validates the hate I feel for an inanimate object.

[Don Flamenco]

i wouldn't trust the Verge or Polygon on anything non-microsoft. 

Seems like a lot of people forgot about the "Sponsored by Internet Explorer" thing at the end of the Polygon: We Feel Emotions documentary. 

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24

 

As far as online goes, they'd have been much better off letting someone else with a proven history  handle building their infrastructure. I bet EA was chomping at the bit, you just know they've been wanting to stick their dicks in running a console online service. I know everyone kind of slags them (deservedly, most of the time), but Origin runs fine and has excellent download speeds. Valve might have done something with them, although I guess Wii U wouldn't have come out until 2015 in that case.

Anyway, if you know you don't have the chops to do something, hire someone who does and save yourself a bunch of fixit work covering your own fuckups further down the line. That's just basic business sense.

[AdmiralViscen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44513231&postcount=1181

Seriously though, I'd like to see a $349 build that is capable of outperforming the Wii U.
Throw in a tablet of equivalent resolution to the Wii U tablet to make things fair.

So...build a $339 PC, pick up a palm pilot at goodwill for $10.  done.

Xbox 360 4GB
Kindle Fire 7" with Smartglass app

Done

[Purple Filth]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24

 

As far as online goes, they'd have been much better off letting someone else with a proven history  handle building their infrastructure. I bet EA was chomping at the bit, you just know they've been wanting to stick their dicks in running a console online service. I know everyone kind of slags them (deservedly, most of the time), but Origin runs fine and has excellent download speeds. Valve might have done something with them, although I guess Wii U wouldn't have come out until 2015 in that case.

Anyway, if you know you don't have the chops to do something, hire someone who does and save yourself a bunch of fixit work covering your own fuckups further down the line. That's just basic business sense.

I still have a feeling this is a major reason EA is basically doing jack shit for Wii U after that big speech their CEO did at E3.


Sounds like EA desired to do just as the bold indicates and it fell through with Nintendo, hence tepid as shit support with shit Madden, FIFA, Mass Effect 3 when the 360 and PS3 got the Mass Effect Collection (hell PS3 will fucking have the first game) and apperantly the ports perform kinda shitty also 

[maxy]

EA boss was pretty naive if he thought Nintendo would give EA control(even partial) over WiiU internet space.

Nintendo giving up control...never

Why would they pair with the likes of Valve too?
So that Valve can quickly discount some Mario game to $10,game that Nintendo would be selling at full price for many years...not gonna happen

[Vertigo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237787&page=24

 

As far as online goes, they'd have been much better off letting someone else with a proven history  handle building their infrastructure. I bet EA was chomping at the bit, you just know they've been wanting to stick their dicks in running a console online service. I know everyone kind of slags them (deservedly, most of the time), but Origin runs fine and has excellent download speeds. Valve might have done something with them, although I guess Wii U wouldn't have come out until 2015 in that case.

Anyway, if you know you don't have the chops to do something, hire someone who does and save yourself a bunch of fixit work covering your own fuckups further down the line. That's just basic business sense.

Seems Nintendo turned them down judging by EA's less than excited relationship with Nintendo since that E3 2012 were they were best buddies and EA was salivating at the thought of running that service.

They couldn't have given less fucks about their launch games for this thing. A reskinned FIFA 2012 ,ME3 with no significant improvements.

[Eel O'Brian]

or

Xbox 360 250GB Black Friday Holiday Bundle with Forza and Skyrim $200
+
Lenovo A2107 7" ICS 8GB Tablet $149
= $350

OR, if you are willing to go a bit nutty and spend an extra $50

PS3 160GB Black Friday Bundle with Uncharted 1/2 pack $200
+
PS Vita Black Friday Bundle with Assassin's Creed Revelations + 4GB memcard $200
= $400

either one of those gets you more storage space and more games

[Eel O'Brian]

EA boss was pretty naive if he thought Nintendo would give EA control(even partial) over WiiU internet space.

Nintendo giving up control...never

Why would they pair with the likes of Valve too?
So that Valve can quickly discount some Mario game to $10,game that Nintendo would be selling at full price for many years...not gonna happen

Sony let Valve link a version of Steam with Portal 2, and that worked out pretty well for them

of course they wouldn't just slap steam on it, i'm just talking about hiring a proven company to build a solid framework, not a separate company taking over the entire operation

that need for absolute control and halfassing things themselves is what's gonna keep bringing you the jank for the next...however long the wii u lifespan is

basically, in that article the dude is telling you wii u online sucks, will continue to suck, and you're just gonna have to deal if you want your pikmins

[mjemirzian]

Just wait until the next gen of consoles roll out with "HD" ports of games like Skyrim and ME3 (by HD I mean they look and run more like their PC counterparts). Wii U might feel a little left out.

[Don Flamenco]

But no whimsy.

You get Nintendo's non-union Mexican equivalents on Sony's machines.  Sony Brawl-Stars, LBP Kart Racing, etc. 

[Don Flamenco]

Zelda?

Okami HD.   except that arguably meets or beats many games in the Zelda series, unlike Sony's first party knock offs.

[Momo]

3D Dot Heroes

[Don Flamenco]

3D Dot Heroes

there you go.  you've got a 3D zelda game and a 2D one

[maxy]

EA boss was pretty naive if he thought Nintendo would give EA control(even partial) over WiiU internet space.

Nintendo giving up control...never

Why would they pair with the likes of Valve too?
So that Valve can quickly discount some Mario game to $10,game that Nintendo would be selling at full price for many years...not gonna happen

Sony let Valve link a version of Steam with Portal 2, and that worked out pretty well for them

of course they wouldn't just slap steam on it, i'm just talking about hiring a proven company to build a solid framework, not a separate company taking over the entire operation

that need for absolute control and halfassing things themselves is what's gonna keep bringing you the jank for the next...however long the wii u lifespan is

basically, in that article the dude is telling you wii u online sucks, will continue to suck, and you're just gonna have to deal if you want your pikmins

That is the way of Nintendo.

I think Oscar(sometime in the past) explained it nicely,average Nintendo buyer buys like 10 games per system lifetime and large majority of those games are Nintendo games.

Third party?
More money is always welcome but whatever.

[Tasty]

EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.

[Stoney Mason]

They don't care about online beause the people who buy their machines don't care about it or haven't demonstrated they care because they keep buying them as is. Why invest in it if your audience is satisfied with split screen and Pokemon.

[Eel O'Brian]

I don't think that stance is gonna serve them very well this time around.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Game drama.

[Tasty]

It's going to be fun watching Andrex break and finally join the PC elite.

I've been buying Steam games for years. Been PC/Nintendo for the majority of last gen.

[Momo]

EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.

Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin

[Tasty]

Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?

Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.

EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.

Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin

What does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?

[Steve Youngblood]

Just wait until the next gen of consoles roll out with "HD" ports of games like Skyrim and ME3 (by HD I mean they look and run more like their PC counterparts). Wii U might feel a little left out.

Eh, honestly, the actual launch should be proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that if you're looking for a one-stop shop for AAA multi-platform stuff, look elsewhere. At best, it's got a year or two to get it's act together to be considered the best in the biz for console ports, but even that seems pretty iffy.

[Human Snorenado]

Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?

Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.

Son, you aren't really pc gaming then

[Don Flamenco]

What does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?

hey look, goal posts moving in a nintendo thread

[MCD]

Then why have you avoided Batman and such when they are much cheaper on Steam?

Dunno, hoping it would be a good port and my PC is kinda crappy. Can barely run Sonic Generations, been meaning to upgrade it forever.

EA can still include Origin support in their Wii U games, Nintendo's made a big deal of "linking your Nintendo Network ID with third party services, with your consent." That's more than XBL and PSN allow so I don't know why EA would be butthurt over it.

Huh? My PS3 account is linked to both Origin and Steam and my live account is linked to Origin

What does that functionally do though? Are the game servers Origin based or PSN-based?

Dat Linux power.

[maxy]

The only way for Nintendo to change is to people stop buying their products but unfortunately new kids are born each year.

For lots of them NSMBU will be the first foray into land of gaming.

In short,blame parents not Nintendo.

[Steve Contra]

So how shitty is this thing?  I haven't been paying that much attention, but from what I've heard there's a lot of problems. 

[Sho Nuff]

It's an HD console for children who don't care about optical out and HDMI black levels. It's not FOR you.