Game

[Tasty]

Wii DoS

Dual of Screen

Dos = Two

Same online as MS-DOS.

It could work.

[Phoenix Dark]

To be fair there are a few things the WiiU does that I like and think are just plain good ideas- and i've tried to say as much, cause these days I like the advancement of the industry, but damn.

In short, you're a supporter of gamer excellence, but Nintendo is not?

[maxy]

Q: This will be the first Nintendo game machine that the company's going to be selling at a loss at launch. How does that change the business model for Nintendo?

A: The business model doesn't change dramatically, in that as soon as we get the consumer to buy one piece of software, then that entire transaction becomes profit positive.

In the end, the business model is still to drive the install base of hardware, and then to drive a strong tie ratio with all of the other software and experiences for the consumer. And if we're able to do that, then we will create significant profit for the company.

http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_22013695

[Damian79]

Sadly that applies to me.  I will buy a wii u when they release a monolith soft rpg(hopefully it iwll be a Xenoblade Chronicles or Baten Kaitos sequel.

[G The Resurrected]

Day 3:

Caved and bought CoD Blops 2, I was hoping to be player 43 online. Unfortunately my gamepad is now broken, it is stuck on and wont turn off. Took out the battery and re synced the controller. It's dead now!

WTF!!!!!

[maxy]

really?

 

[DCharlieJP]

(hopefully it iwll be a Xenoblade Chronicles

I've seen several hardcore nthings go from concern troll over how next gen is going to bankrupt all and sundry -straight- into saying they can't wait for a huge budget Monolith game that's going to sell... um... 20k? 30k?

Fine they are now an internal 2nd party studio or whatever but the whole "bu bu won't SOMEONE think of the costs?!" is hollow at best and downright laughable the rest of the time.

[Damian79]

(hopefully it iwll be a Xenoblade Chronicles

I've seen several hardcore nthings go from concern troll over how next gen is going to bankrupt all and sundry -straight- into saying they can't wait for a huge budget Monolith game that's going to sell... um... 20k? 30k?

Fine they are now an internal 2nd party studio or whatever but the whole "bu bu won't SOMEONE think of the costs?!" is hollow at best and downright laughable the rest of the time.

True that. 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Even Nintendo hasn't got a big budget game on the Wii AND Wii U.

Why would Monolith make one?

I think even games like Zelda have smaller budgets then let's say, Darksiders.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Pictures from ads...

[archnemesis]

Those are actually quite good and I can imagine that the expanded casual audience would enjoy this type of asymmetrical local multiplayer. The problem is the most of them aren't willing to pay the high initial cost. A Wii U with four Wiimotes is quite expensive.

[DCharlieJP]

I've not read it but apparently there's a big 2ch thread where the general feeling is "if you actually want to enjoy the Wii U then the actual -real- cost is heading towards 60,000" according to the wife

i assume , given that price, that they're saying 32k for the machine, 5k for an extra controller pack with bar, then 10k or so for the other 3 waggle motes, 5k for a pro controller,  6k/5k/5k for Nintendoland, MH, and Mario ... ?

I have now actually cancelled all preorders - all papers destroyed, all digital options deleted. I could still get one on the day but it does look like gaming herpes right now.

[archnemesis]

You might as well wait a while and keep your wife happy.

I'm guessing it would be a bit less for more most households since they probably already own at least two old Wiimotes. Also, the Pro Controller isn't really necessary if you own other consoles.

[Don Flamenco]

edit:
ok, now this shit has gone too far:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44593084&postcount=11

it's not like 2D mario games had particularly great, varied scores anyways.

i think it's better than SMW.

[maxy]

Top 10 Miiverse communities

1. Nintendoland- 28,509
2. NSMB U- 24,970
3. ZombiU- 11,511
4. CoD: BO2- 6,066
5. AC3- 3,282
6. Scribblenauts- 3,049
7. Sonic Racing- 2,812
8. Batman: AC- 2,437
9. Ninja Gaiden 3- 1,931
10. Epic Mickey 2- 1,044

[MrAngryFace]

Poor Orochi Warriors- i'll be your communiity member any day

[MrAngryFace]

I've not read it but apparently there's a big 2ch thread where the general feeling is "if you actually want to enjoy the Wii U then the actual -real- cost is heading towards 60,000" according to the wife

i assume , given that price, that they're saying 32k for the machine, 5k for an extra controller pack with bar, then 10k or so for the other 3 waggle motes, 5k for a pro controller,  6k/5k/5k for Nintendoland, MH, and Mario ... ?

I have now actually cancelled all preorders - all papers destroyed, all digital options deleted. I could still get one on the day but it does look like gaming herpes right now.

That doesnt include the cost of hiring "friends" to play multiplayer mario with you. Really- at our age- WHAT ARE THE FUCKING CHANCES we know TWO people who still wanna play mario with someone?

[maxy]

First WiiU vs 360 vs PS3 DF face-off

Mass Effect 3

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-mass-effect-3-wii-u-face-off

Verdict

360>WiiU>PS3

Although in some areas PS3>WiiU

[G The Resurrected]

Just spent 50 minutes with Nintendo on the phone. My gamepad doesn't want to connect with the wiiU still. I have to wait to be contacted back by a specialist sometime today.

[maxy]

Specialist?
 

[G The Resurrected]

Well at least my console hasn't taken on a life of its own and deleted profiles or something crazy like that. I hope this is an easy fix, I'm gonna run out for a pro controller cause it has all of the buttons on it. Maybe then I can play games.

[maxy]

No,but i think that order will be mostly correct.

COD will probably outsell ZombiU,i think

[MrAngryFace]

From everything I heard Darksiders II is a great port- but its not even on the list among games with various crash bugs and poor performance :*(

Also more people should buy Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper like I did cause that is the right choice

[cool breeze]

Has anyone done the Wii to Wii U transfer process? I'm still confused about it.  Does it delete everything off your Wii?

Can we extrapolate sales numbers based on this data? Or not.

I think to get on that list you need to:

-Download the big update
-Sign up for Nintendo Network
-Setup Miiverse
-Post or in some way interact with the community

And each step is optional.

And these late ports being inferior on the Wii U is legitimately surprising.  iirc there were cases where PS3 versions of old 360 games (Fight Night, Oblivion) were improved. 

[maxy]

Dice dev pouring some oil on WiiU CPU fire,were are all those fucking industry insiders now?

[Diunx]

Nintendo fans are exceeding all my expectations! this launch is awesome

[Don Flamenco]

Forecast for day 3-- more incoming shitstorms:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500800

[Howard Alan Treesong]

First WiiU vs 360 vs PS3 DF face-off

Mass Effect 3

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-mass-effect-3-wii-u-face-off

Verdict

360>WiiU>PS3

Although in some areas PS3>WiiU

why are we arguing about this when we all play ME3 on PC? second place is first loser

[Tasty]

Top 10 Miiverse communities

1. Nintendoland- 28,509
2. NSMB U- 24,970
3. ZombiU- 11,511
4. CoD: BO2- 6,066
5. AC3- 3,282
6. Scribblenauts- 3,049
7. Sonic Racing- 2,812
8. Batman: AC- 2,437
9. Ninja Gaiden 3- 1,931
10. Epic Mickey 2- 1,044

I think this data will come in very handy in determining eShop sales. Not canonical or anything, but the formula should be something like (Community Count) - (Retail Sales) = eShop Sales

[maxy]

First WiiU vs 360 vs PS3 DF face-off

Mass Effect 3

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-mass-effect-3-wii-u-face-off

Verdict

360>WiiU>PS3

Although in some areas PS3>WiiU

why are we arguing about this when we all play ME3 on PC? second place is first loser

I don't see any arguing here at all,everything seems crystal clear.

Weeeoooo

[bork]

I've not read it but apparently there's a big 2ch thread where the general feeling is "if you actually want to enjoy the Wii U then the actual -real- cost is heading towards 60,000" according to the wife

i assume , given that price, that they're saying 32k for the machine, 5k for an extra controller pack with bar, then 10k or so for the other 3 waggle motes, 5k for a pro controller,  6k/5k/5k for Nintendoland, MH, and Mario ... ?

I have now actually cancelled all preorders - all papers destroyed, all digital options deleted. I could still get one on the day but it does look like gaming herpes right now.

 

MEGA-TON!

The Wii U is truly a massive fuck-up if our beloved XFE, the launch console king, isn't even bothering with it!

[Tasty]

So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.

[Steve Youngblood]

ShockingAlberto

What did he do?

This? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44577599&postcount=157

[Tasty]

Takaown'd

[Eel O'Brian]

Battlefield 3 Wii U Touch 'n' Stab Edition, 8-player maps, lazy devs

[MrAngryFace]

So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.

I actually like how the miiverse is surfaced at the home screen- the miiverse itself kind of 'meets an expectation' for me in terms of both form and function- but the home screen with the way you can browse the dynamic collection of Miis/Users in the community and see their latest community posts via Miiverse- THAT is a good idea.

[cool breeze]

I think it's a great idea that's handled poorly, or clumsily, unintuitive, sloppily, and other words.  In some ways Steam does the same thing, but Miiverse contextualizes your pictures/messages better.

I feel the same way about the controller.  I like the tablet controller idea enough that I'd want other companies to copy it; mainly to do it proper this time.

[Tasty]

So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.

I actually like how the miiverse is surfaced at the home screen- the miiverse itself kind of 'meets an expectation' for me in terms of both form and function- but the home screen with the way you can browse the dynamic collection of Miis/Users in the community and see their latest community posts via Miiverse- THAT is a good idea.

That's interesting, I don't really care for Wara Wara that much, seems pretty useless. Maybe I just need to play more games and get more friends, but eh. I like the implementation in NSMBU even if it's 100% superfluous, but there you have much better context for the messages.

I'm not one to cruise the trending topics on Twitter so maybe that's the issue.

[SantaC]

gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.

[Steve Youngblood]

gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.

That thread... it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell who is and isn't trolling.

[MrAngryFace]

So yeah, Miiverse is pretty nice. It's not a worthwhile replacement for actual online, but it could be a good supplement. I think the reason something closed off and focused like this works, whereas just posting to Twitter in-game doesn't, is that it's, well... focused. It has a point, and that point is game status updates. It reminds me a lot of Backloggery. Kind of pointless, but oddly compelling because of how focused it is.

I actually like how the miiverse is surfaced at the home screen- the miiverse itself kind of 'meets an expectation' for me in terms of both form and function- but the home screen with the way you can browse the dynamic collection of Miis/Users in the community and see their latest community posts via Miiverse- THAT is a good idea.

That's interesting, I don't really care for Wara Wara that much, seems pretty useless. Maybe I just need to play more games and get more friends, but eh. I like the implementation in NSMBU even if it's 100% superfluous, but there you have much better context for the messages.

I'm not one to cruise the trending topics on Twitter so maybe that's the issue.

Is that what the mii home screen thing is called? I like it mostly because it creates atmosphere- you instantly feel connected to these other profiles at boot up- instead of that experience starting with the miiverse app- now whether or not its actually USEFUL beyond that is up for debate this early on. The future of gaming is dependent on community, even if I dont appreciate that fact, but objectively I can see how this is a move in the right direction for a hobby that in a few years may no longer be "mine".

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.

That thread... it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell who is and isn't trolling.

They jumped the shark a long time ago over there.  All the jokey joke trolling is just fucking annoying now.

I want my ninthings going HAM, but I like it real.

[Joe Molotov]

gaf is apparently better at tech than the developer on Metro. Atleast that is what the ninfags think.

That thread... it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell who is and isn't trolling.

We've reached the troll event horizon, where real posts and troll posts are all being pulled together into a indistinguishable singularity.

[DCharlieJP]

I seen a few comments around that i -think- are serious that people still expect the Wii U to get "cutdown versions of Orbis/X8 games"

Hmmmmm......

As per a friend : the CPU would not be out of place in a cell phone.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I seen a few comments around that i -think- are serious that people still expect the Wii U to get "cutdown versions of Orbis/X8 games"

Hmmmmm......

As per a friend : the CPU would not be out of place in a cell phone.

There was that hilarious chart going around showing "how powerful!" the Wii U CPU was that showed it was ALMOST THREE TIMES AS POWERFUL as an iPhone 5 

[pilonv1]

Imagine how fast it could run Letterpress then

[maxy]

COD is sub-hd on WiiU

...

[DCharlieJP]

COD is sub-hd on WiiU

i thought it was going to be 1080/60fps gaming.

where ARE bgassassins posts about what a beast the Wii U is? lol

Then again - maybe he meant The Ab-lol-minimal Slowman (AKA Scratchcrotch)

look at Ubisoft for example, they love the Wii U.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

640p at 28fps from my toilet!  It's like living on the holodeck.


Stopped over at Target and had another chance to buy one of these things.  There were quite a few too.  Black ones. 

What the fuck is going on here?  Why are these so easy to find?  This is the softest launch I've seen in years.

Again, I almost bought one just because but pulled back because of the whole account locked to a single system nonsense.  I can't really pull the trigger until that mess gets sorted out.

[DCharlieJP]

640p at 28fps

lol - really?

Wii U? Wii Gave U a Phone in a console shell - more like

Aside from brightness/saturation differences, the Wii U version looks better than both the PS3 and 360 in most of those comparisons.

it doesn't but hey... brightness and saturation are only minor things right? I assume this also includes contrast, black levels, whitelevels as well seen as it's all excused because of the Wii U's RGB limit lol

Also, have people noticed the numbers going steadily up since Sunday or not?

658 people right now

let me just <pushes people out of way> get through this <pushes people out of way> massive crowd ....

[MrAngryFace]

Apparently its not out in Japan yet? American Beta Test Program- AMBASSADOOOORRRRRRRRRRRR

[DCharlieJP]

Apparently its not out in Japan yet?

yup yup - wii U out on Dec 8th - thanks for finding all the problems with it.

The extra weeks give Japan Nintendo time to iron out all the stuff that works and make them ass backwards for the JPN market. I'm sure they're patching friend codes back in and only allowing online infra communication via morse code

[pilonv1]

Japan launching after Europe is crazy. Imagine saying that 7 years ago.

Just reading that Wii U surround sound post, jesus christ this thing is a fuck up

* The Wii U does not support DPII, DD or DTS.

[AdmiralViscen]

How can that be? Didn't GameCube have Pro Logic II?

Link for that and the CoD res shit?

[pilonv1]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500865

TL;DR Nintendo is too cheap to pay Dolby licencing fees or include optical out

[mjemirzian]

Is Xmas an important shopping holiday for Japan? That would explain why they rushed it out in NA with unfinished firmware while waiting a bit for Japan's launch.

[pilonv1]

Is Xmas an important shopping holiday for Japan? That would explain why they rushed it out in NA with unfinished firmware while waiting a bit for Japan's launch.

It's no Easter

[Tasty]

Apparently its not out in Japan yet?

yup yup - wii U out on Dec 8th - thanks for finding all the problems with it.

The extra weeks give Japan Nintendo time to iron out all the stuff that works and make them ass backwards for the JPN market. I'm sure they're patching friend codes back in and only allowing online infra communication via morse code

Wouldn't put it past that bunch of incompetent monkey coders.

[MrAngryFace]

ALL Of this aside, ive been playing a fair bit of mario and orochi warriors- also have 30+ friends from GB community

[headwalk]

has anyone else entertained the possibility that the wii u project is a conspiracy helmed by andrex and his wretched ilk to give legitimacy to their long repressed desires to abandon the drifting sullen hulk that is nintendo and claw back an ounce of self respect?

i bet they've been pushing this direction for years in club nintendo conference calls, like taking a shit in grandma's bed in the middle of the night just for the excuse to send her off to the retirement pound.