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« Reply #4800 on: November 29, 2012, 04:08:13 PM »
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Zelda looks gorgeous. **** the haters. Especially that fight shot with that knight. And the master sword in the forest. GotfM!!!

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« Reply #4801 on: November 29, 2012, 04:11:38 PM »
ahahahhaha
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« Reply #4802 on: November 29, 2012, 04:16:34 PM »
At least they can still play Ghost Squad

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« Reply #4803 on: November 29, 2012, 04:19:29 PM »
Ghost Squad always reminds me of Ninja Squad.

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« Reply #4804 on: November 29, 2012, 04:20:48 PM »
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread  :lol :lol :lol :lol

Not anymore. :lol
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« Reply #4805 on: November 29, 2012, 04:24:01 PM »
Fuck, Ninja Squad is red hot

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« Reply #4806 on: November 29, 2012, 04:24:38 PM »
I'd play a Ninja Squad lightgun game
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« Reply #4807 on: November 29, 2012, 04:28:23 PM »
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread  :lol :lol :lol :lol

Not anymore. :lol

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« Reply #4808 on: November 29, 2012, 04:31:51 PM »
Evilore personally stepped in and chopped him down for his "I'M NOT THE CRAZY ONE, YOU'RE THE CRAZY ONES!" post.
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« Reply #4809 on: November 29, 2012, 04:32:20 PM »


I can't believe I never picked up the port of this sick ass game

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« Reply #4810 on: November 29, 2012, 04:36:12 PM »


I can't believe I never picked up the port of this sick ass game

Looks rad but pretty slow for a lightgun game. How does it work? You don't use a gun attachment at the 'cade, do you?
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« Reply #4811 on: November 29, 2012, 04:40:38 PM »
I had Ninja Assault, but I liked Vampire Night better.
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« Reply #4812 on: November 29, 2012, 04:43:10 PM »
Called it.

Evilore personally stepped in and chopped him down for his "I'M NOT THE CRAZY ONE, YOU'RE THE CRAZY ONES!" post.

Link? Thread is hard to keep up with.

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« Reply #4813 on: November 29, 2012, 04:44:06 PM »
damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread  :lol :lol :lol :lol

I have a feeling he's gonna be banned pretty soon if he keeps it up. "All my friends at Retro are totally stoked for Wii U! Trust me! Trust them! Disclaimer: Retro is a first party Nintendo studio."

yea because we all know they will bite the hand that feeds them  ::), dude is distinguished mentally-challenged.

damn HAL is working overtime in that GAF thread  :lol :lol :lol :lol

Not anymore. :lol


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« Reply #4814 on: November 29, 2012, 04:49:06 PM »
yea because we all know they will bite the hand that feeds them  ::), dude is distinguished mentally-challenged.

To be entirely fair, he's citing off the record conversation had over beers and gaming, so I can buy that an employee would genuinely be excited about what they're working on if that's what they're saying in that context. However, what I found baffling about this was that this was completely inconsequential insider information to tease. HAL wasn't even asserting that he had seen anything himself that he just wasn't allowed to talk about. "I can't talk about it, but I've seen it and I think some people are going to be surprised" is insider info that -- accurate or not -- is actually worth throwing out. "My buddy who's working on it tells me that it's great" is completely worthless info, especially when offered authoritatively.

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« Reply #4815 on: November 29, 2012, 04:50:25 PM »
Called it.

Evilore personally stepped in and chopped him down for his "I'M NOT THE CRAZY ONE, YOU'RE THE CRAZY ONES!" post.

Link? Thread is hard to keep up with.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44892135&postcount=1587
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« Reply #4816 on: November 29, 2012, 05:03:27 PM »
yea because we all know they will bite the hand that feeds them  ::), dude is distinguished mentally-challenged.

To be entirely fair, he's citing off the record conversation had over beers and gaming, so I can buy that an employee would genuinely be excited about what they're working on if that's what they're saying in that context. However, what I found baffling about this was that this was completely inconsequential insider information to tease. HAL wasn't even asserting that he had seen anything himself that he just wasn't allowed to talk about. "I can't talk about it, but I've seen it and I think some people are going to be surprised" is insider info that -- accurate or not -- is actually worth throwing out. "My buddy who's working on it tells me that it's great" is completely worthless info, especially when offered authoritatively.

I still don't believe they would want to say anything bad but i will agree about him apparently not seeing it, going on heresay that its good and passing that as "insider" info was fucking stupid.



An maybe its just me but does the Lore comment sound like he's permed?
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« Reply #4817 on: November 29, 2012, 05:06:25 PM »
nintendo  :'(

will buy for zelda tho
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« Reply #4818 on: November 29, 2012, 05:48:46 PM »
Damn. That HAL_Lab went down in flames.
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« Reply #4819 on: November 29, 2012, 05:51:36 PM »
Now things are just getting goofy:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895419&postcount=1742
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895538&postcount=1749

He can tell from the pixels and from seeing some polygons in his days.
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« Reply #4820 on: November 29, 2012, 05:52:48 PM »
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No worries, though. I'm sure soccer moms worldwide, with their iPads and Nexus 7s sitting on the coffee table, will be enthralled by the unique selling point of a living room tethered, two hour battery life, PDA-era resistive touch screen tablet controller.

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« Reply #4821 on: November 29, 2012, 05:54:17 PM »
But the zelda demo's impressive mostly by the lighting and reflective materials as well as textures. 3d gaming is about more than polygons. ??? And with an underpowered gpu/cpu, doing a game that looks like that zelda demo is impossible - literally - with those specs.
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« Reply #4822 on: November 29, 2012, 06:04:01 PM »
Now things are just getting goofy:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895419&postcount=1742
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44895538&postcount=1749

He can tell from the pixels and from seeing some polygons in his days.

That shit is awesome! JordanN and his amazing polygon counting powers!   :lol
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« Reply #4823 on: November 29, 2012, 06:07:22 PM »
Someone should tell him that characters have more polys than flat levels.  Or not.  Probably funnier if not.
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« Reply #4824 on: November 29, 2012, 06:09:51 PM »
that jordan dude is embarrassing
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« Reply #4825 on: November 29, 2012, 06:12:53 PM »
Holy shit he's like Nick Rox but he can count polygons instead of cut animation frames from Capcom Saturn ports

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« Reply #4826 on: November 29, 2012, 06:15:06 PM »
So, the Wii was underpowered...

However!

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I and MANY other people were pretty wowed by stuff like Mario Galaxy, Xenoblade, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Last Story, and Skyward Sword.

The Wii put out some pretty incredible visuals in relation to the hardware it was on.

I expect the same to be the case with Wii U.

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« Reply #4827 on: November 29, 2012, 06:35:20 PM »
Setting the bar low
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« Reply #4828 on: November 29, 2012, 06:43:34 PM »
I still think the tablet controller is a great idea


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« Reply #4829 on: November 29, 2012, 06:44:02 PM »
Ghost Squad always reminds me of Ninja Squad.

You want ninjas in your Ghost Squad?

YOU GOT IT!

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« Reply #4830 on: November 29, 2012, 06:45:29 PM »
HOLY FUCK

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« Reply #4831 on: November 29, 2012, 06:49:01 PM »
Ghost Squad always reminds me of Ninja Squad.

You want ninjas in your Ghost Squad?

YOU GOT IT!



omg!
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« Reply #4832 on: November 29, 2012, 06:51:59 PM »
Did you guys know you can do this?

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« Reply #4833 on: November 29, 2012, 06:58:02 PM »
Holy shit I didn't know you could do this. CRAZYTOWN

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« Reply #4834 on: November 29, 2012, 07:00:45 PM »
:bow WII :bow2
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« Reply #4835 on: November 29, 2012, 07:07:09 PM »
Holy shit he's like Nick Rox but he can count polygons instead of cut animation frames from Capcom Saturn ports

HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE

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« Reply #4836 on: November 29, 2012, 07:24:00 PM »
Did you guys know you can do this?



yeah, I tried this out a few months back.  Doesn't work great if you expect it to replicate the lightgun.  Fine as a pointer.

I looked up other ways to play modern lightgun games like the ems topgun and stuff.  Those sound a bit better but some still use IR, which has issues replicating the lightgun feel (based on Wii and Guncon 3 use).  That's including the 3 to 5-point calibrations some games allow.

Move does the best job at emulating the lightgun feel, but it's limited by implementation (HotD3+4 are excellent; Time Crisis is bad) and last I checked no PC drivers.



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« Reply #4837 on: November 29, 2012, 07:27:49 PM »
is see you guys already posted that polygon counting shit  :lol

that jordan dude is embarrassing

pretty much.

Dude kept pushing that the zelda demo can't be done on current consoles just because Nintendo PR said it can't :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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« Reply #4838 on: November 29, 2012, 07:58:46 PM »
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Apparently, according to a link further up, bgassassin suggested they actually switched the core type after the first kit, not just clockspeed. That the core was originally something more xenon like with mt per core etc. But I don't know if that's true or not.

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Yea that's not true. Was more or less same CPU whole time. Only  real CPU change was the clock speed was raised 25%  between I believe Cat-Dev V3 and V4.

seriously?

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« Reply #4839 on: November 29, 2012, 08:01:03 PM »
Euro launch

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« Reply #4840 on: November 29, 2012, 08:07:03 PM »
Oh shit! Europeans get to get in on the fun. ROUND 2

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« Reply #4841 on: November 29, 2012, 08:07:49 PM »
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The Wii put out some pretty incredible visuals in relation to the hardware it was on.


I swear before the end of this gen someone will post that they prefer lower polygon models, that they prefer lower shader quality, that dithering is brilliant, and that they prefer low res texturing because it "i dunno, it looks more real"


Until the Wii 3 - then it'll be OMG NINTENDO THANK YOU FOR FINALLY GIVING ME PERMISSION TO LIKE THIS!


Seriously, each firm has their screaming fanboys but Nintendo fans are the only ones that treat Nintendo like an overbearing mother figure. Love you mom, thanks for letting me stay up till 8pm! <3 <3
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« Reply #4843 on: November 29, 2012, 08:13:52 PM »
Oh shit! Europeans get to get in on the fun. ROUND 2

Australia was last night, Euro today. More fun!
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« Reply #4844 on: November 29, 2012, 08:25:59 PM »
didn't the UK have 'record breaking preorder levels' ?

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« Reply #4845 on: November 29, 2012, 08:43:51 PM »
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?

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« Reply #4847 on: November 29, 2012, 09:09:40 PM »
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?

Manchildren squirming as they attempt to damage-control is funny. See: HAL_Laboratory's meltdown.
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« Reply #4848 on: November 29, 2012, 09:45:07 PM »
Euro launch

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The que numbers will triple once Nintendo fans get off work :bow
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« Reply #4849 on: November 29, 2012, 10:41:13 PM »
Euro launch

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The que numbers will triple once Nintendo fans get out of school :bow

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« Reply #4851 on: November 29, 2012, 11:10:06 PM »
Sounds like the Australian units are getting hard locks too. Need to unplug at the wall to get it to clear.
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« Reply #4852 on: November 30, 2012, 12:20:20 AM »
I'm starting to think we need a Wii U thread and a Wii U Ridicule thread.


Mario U is actually great so far.  Same old game but the levels are quality and it can look nice at times.  Has some of that Mario Galaxy sheen and isn't quite so flat and charisma vacuumious like the Wii game.

Other than the music, all that's 'bad' about the game are the coin placements.  I've gotten all in the first four worlds and most of them are behind a fake wall.  You know, the completely innocuous looking walls that you can walk through.  It means two things:

1) If you want the coins, sometimes you gotta just rub up against walls.  The levels are well designed in general, but it doesn't have those suspicious looking areas where you feel the coins could be. 

2)  It's not skill based.  I may be misremembering how it was in NSMB Wii, but between Galaxy 2 and 3D Land, some of the bonus coins were fun to get.  They weren't just "hidden" to be found.  Sometimes they were in plain sight and getting to them was the challenge.  The coins in NSMBU are just pretty lazy so far.

And this isn't a positive or negative, but the 'seamless' world ain't like Super Mario World's.  It's more like Mario 3 with the worlds connected.

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« Reply #4853 on: November 30, 2012, 12:45:00 AM »
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?


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« Reply #4854 on: November 30, 2012, 12:49:47 AM »
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?

Because it's not the same game. It's not the same game, Geoff. Geoff! It's not the same game.
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« Reply #4855 on: November 30, 2012, 01:23:50 AM »
http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2012/wiiu-teaser.html



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Keep in mind that this is purely a demonstration at this stage. Depending on how things progress and what direction development takes, we may or may not release something like this in this form. Please don’t ask for release dates. We’d rather spend time investigating the new system than putting together a release that may or may not end up being the Right Way to do things in the future ;).

Please ignore the blue blinks. The monitor kind of sucks at syncing to component video sometimes. I would’ve used HDMI, but the Wii U cannot output analog audio simultaneously with HDMI (at least not for the Wii U menu part), and I cannot capture HDMI audio.
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« Reply #4856 on: November 30, 2012, 01:51:34 AM »
I consider myself fairly high skilled with platformers, especially Mario ones. I find Lost Levels enjoyable and can clear almost any Mario level.

However, the skill challenges are downright brutal. Time trials, coin runs, 1up marathons... and I haven't even gotten to the Boost Rush ones, which basically force you to use this setup:



(That's a developer of the game, setting mandatory platforms down with the GamePad while he navigates the level with the Wiimote in order to beat it. This game needs the "For Super Players... ONLY" subtitle.)

Sixfortyfive on GAF is a much more skilled platform player than me and these challenges almost damn near broke him. I've barely scratched the surface and I'm already pulling my hair out. These are way harder than 95% of Lost Levels already.

Mario U is actually great so far.  Same old game but the levels are quality and it can look nice at times.  Has some of that Mario Galaxy sheen and isn't quite so flat and charisma vacuumious like the Wii game.

It's not terrible looking. The backgrounds are nice and it's finally, finally nice not to have my eyes cut open with jaggies.

Other than the music, all that's 'bad' about the game are the coin placements.  I've gotten all in the first four worlds and most of them are behind a fake wall.  You know, the completely innocuous looking walls that you can walk through.  It means two things:

1) If you want the coins, sometimes you gotta just rub up against walls.  The levels are well designed in general, but it doesn't have those suspicious looking areas where you feel the coins could be. 

2)  It's not skill based.  I may be misremembering how it was in NSMB Wii, but between Galaxy 2 and 3D Land, some of the bonus coins were fun to get.  They weren't just "hidden" to be found.  Sometimes they were in plain sight and getting to them was the challenge.  The coins in NSMBU are just pretty lazy so far.

The coins in NSMB U are a lot better than Wii. I may be misremembering myself but like 80% of those were "hidden wall tee hee!" ones. I was really annoyed with that aspect of the original.

Comparatively, U's coins have far less hidden walls coins, and those that do are usually somewhat clever at least.

And this isn't a positive or negative, but the 'seamless' world ain't like Super Mario World's.  It's more like Mario 3 with the worlds connected.

The theme's are the same recycled junk from SMB3 but the structure is pretty much World to a tee, with a bigger emphasis on "1:1" secret paths and not secret paths that lead to otherwise completely-sealed off areas (see Butter Bridge, the lower right of Donut Plains, half of Forest of Illusion, etc.) In general I think this might be a little better gameplay-wise since you get more content without combing through secrets. Whimsy-wise World probably has the edge, although I will say I always did like World's multiple secret exits in some levels. Made you think you were completely done after finding the first one, but nope, more secrets to be found!

I also give an easy victory to the Ghost Houses of World. U's are better than most of the New series' but still not as clever as the originals.

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Re: Wii U CPU = Wii CPU with AMD Duron taped to it, lawlz - official WII U thread!
« Reply #4857 on: November 30, 2012, 02:38:50 AM »
I don't understand what exactly is so funny or "hilarious" about the Wii U's faults. I never got the whole derisive laughter thing. Anyone care to explain?

Don't worry you will see the same hilarity for PS4/720.

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Re: Wii U CPU = Wii CPU with AMD Duron taped to it, lawlz - official WII U thread!
« Reply #4858 on: November 30, 2012, 04:48:38 AM »
The two-part controller was pretty much the best thing about the Wii so I hope both Sony and MS do something like that.

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Re: Wii U CPU = Wii CPU with AMD Duron taped to it, lawlz - official WII U thread!
« Reply #4859 on: November 30, 2012, 05:29:53 AM »
Thanks for the replies guys. And that's the strangest PS controller I've ever seen. That wiimote-tablet setup looks uncomfortable. How did they let him get away with designing a control scheme around that?

My thoughts on the Wii U are still that I might get one for Bayonetta 2 and Fire Emblem, assuming they're any good.