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[Joe Molotov]

As serious as Nintendo is about locking your eShop content to one system.

[Steve Contra]

Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.

I just read that awesome post.  Awesome.

[etiolate]

dcharlie is a sega refuge, no need to concern yourself andrex

[Positive Touch]

Can't tell if you're being serious.

says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games

[maxy]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/07/wii-u-was-once-a-wii-zapper-prototype

[Cascade]

Max Wii U sales time

max sales time:

nsmbu: 243k
zombi u (not half of red steel's first month): 50k
scribblenauts (less than zombi u): 50k
cod9 (less than scribblenauts): 50k
just dance (less than cod9): 50k
nland (less than just dance): 50k
five games between nintendo land and the 10k mark: 250k
17 games at less than 10k: 17k

total: 760k

so keep in mind that this is probably the absolute best case scenario. real numbers are much lower.

17 games at less than 10K and Zombi U which had like 10x the effort Red Steel had put into it and it only managed half the number even with Wii U selling a lot more than Wii did in its first month.

[maxy]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-12-07-wii-u-sells-1-2-games-per-console?

In a note to investors, Longbow Research's James Hardiman shed some additional light on the numbers, calling specific attention to the performance of Wii U software sales. While the original Wii saw two games sold for every console in its opening month on shelves in 2006, the Wii U posted a comparatively paltry 1.2 games sold per system. Hardiman chalked that up to either the inclusion of NintendoLand in Wii U Deluxe bundles providing a compelling enough experience that players didn't feel the need for another game, or the higher prices for the Wii U ($299 for the Basic system, $349 for the Deluxe) left consumers without the spare funds for software.

[Steve Contra]

There's probably a bit of the "I'm going to be a Ebay millionaire" thing going on, given how crazy the Wii launch was once it sold out.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Max Wii U sales time

max sales time:

nsmbu: 243k
zombi u (not half of red steel's first month): 50k
scribblenauts (less than zombi u): 50k
cod9 (less than scribblenauts): 50k
just dance (less than cod9): 50k
nland (less than just dance): 50k
five games between nintendo land and the 10k mark: 250k
17 games at less than 10k: 17k

total: 760k

so keep in mind that this is probably the absolute best case scenario. real numbers are much lower.

17 games at less than 10K and Zombi U which had like 10x the effort Red Steel had put into it and it only managed half the number even with Wii U selling a lot more than Wii did in its first month.

I'm guessing Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper sold about two copies: one for me and one for some other poor bastard

[Purple Filth]

Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.

I just read that awesome post.  Awesome.

really? 

[Joe Molotov]

Four 3rd Party games in the Top 5.

Wii U is a 3rd Party Powerhouse

[Takao]

There's probably a bit of the "I'm going to be a Ebay millionaire" thing going on, given how crazy the Wii launch was once it sold out.

[Cerveza mas fina]

To be fair Wii Sports was included in sales numbers no?

[Tasty]

Can't tell if you're being serious.

says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games

Define fully appreciate. I love SMB1, Lost Levels, 3, World, LttP, Kirby, Kid Icarus... about the only franchise I've never really cared for is Metroid.

But to say they haven't topped themselves since then in any area is fanboy stupidity that wouldn't be out of place for a Ninthing on GAF if it was, say, Sony's early games. You people are becoming the very same kind of brainless, hateful drones you mock and claim to despise.

[Himu]

Can't tell if you're being serious.

says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games

Define fully appreciate. I love SMB1, Lost Levels, 3, World, LttP, Kirby, Kid Icarus... about the only franchise I've never really cared for is Metroid.

But to say they haven't topped themselves since then in any area is fanboy stupidity that wouldn't be out of place for a Ninthing on GAF if it was, say, Sony's early games. You people are becoming the very same kind of brainless, hateful drones you mock and claim to despise.

His post is pretty bad. It is definitely fueled by nostalgia. But the overall point is sound, Nintendo's name, aside from Mario Galaxy 1/2/NSMB wii, in recent years, is not associated with quality any longer.

That said, they made this so, who can fully hate them?



I know i can't.

[DCharlieJP]

Animal Crossing

confession time - i bought the new one on 3DS :O

I played about 2 hours maybe? Why did i buy it ? i have absolutely no idea at all. Fortunately i was able to sell it back at nigh on the same price i bought it due to the insanely low stocks.

What the FUCK was i thinking?!? It's still the same old fucking sludge fest. I cannot for the life of me fathom the appeal. It actually is "Shit i should be doing in real life - the game".

Hell, friends started tweeting confusing shit like

"Tidied up my room and bought some new furniture. Place looks swank. <pic>" - fucking animal crossing shot
"out at the club at 2am - incredible <pic>" - a picture in the club, in animal crossing, at 2am
etc etc

As for #GOTY hash tagging this utter "Sylvanian Family lets-play-dress-up-Barbie-home wallpaper and tidy-em-up" shit fest? Jesus will punish you.

dcharlie is a sega refuge, no need to concern yourself andrex

You both know it's true. Actually, i've no idea if you know it's true , Et. Andrex ? Doesn't even know the joys.

And will be interesting to see the queues for Wii U around now - it's nearly opening time.

[DCharlieJP]

. Around 50 people in line at Yodobashi in Akiba

with 1 hour to go :O

errr.......

[Himu]

Animal Crossing

confession time - i bought the new one on 3DS :O

I played about 2 hours maybe? Why did i buy it ? i have absolutely no idea at all. Fortunately i was able to sell it back at nigh on the same price i bought it due to the insanely low stocks.

What the FUCK was i thinking?!? It's still the same old fucking sludge fest. I cannot for the life of me fathom the appeal. It actually is "Shit i should be doing in real life - the game".

Hell, friends started tweeting confusing shit like

"Tidied up my room and bought some new furniture. Place looks swank. <pic>" - fucking animal crossing shot
"out at the club at 2am - incredible <pic>" - a picture in the club, in animal crossing, at 2am
etc etc

As for #GOTY hash tagging this utter "Sylvanian Family lets-play-dress-up-Barbie-home wallpaper and tidy-em-up" shit fest? Jesus will punish you.

 

[Joe Molotov]

You know what Nintendo released as a $50, AAA holiday title? Wii Music.

'nuff said.

[Human Snorenado]

Can't tell if you're being serious.

says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games

You have to remember, he's a dumb fucker

[Steve Contra]

Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.

I just read that awesome post.  Awesome.

really? 

It's the -san that kills it for me.

[Purple Filth]

Expect Miyamoto-san and the brightest from Nintendo to release a stream of small Game-pad friendly e-store titles, of a speed and quality the likes of which Nintendo has never done before. Essentially the e-store will be the Apple Store, but with more quality. Tons of indie games, tons of First party nintendo smaller games, and if we're lucky, some HD re-releases of GC and Wii classics.

I just read that awesome post.  Awesome.

really? 

It's the -san that kills it for me.

link plz

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45145572&postcount=204

[DCharlieJP]

just like that massive catalogue of those by gone NES/SNES/N64 classics we were definitely going to get on the Wii, DS, 3DS....

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Gaming is ALL Nintendo does. They don't over-extend. They watch, wait, and execute. This is so obvious with the WiiU. I have no clue what RETRO is working on, but I promise that the their hinted engine will really WOW people with regards to what the system can do. Iwata has said as much. The slow trickle of first gen mega-hits will be impressive, I think, but will require an incredible patience from the fans. This is why that ease of porting from 3rd parties is so important. However, the real gem comes from the indie devs and Miyamoto's secret first party master class at Nintendo.

I missed this the first time I read that post

secret first party master class

[Purple Filth]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45145572&postcount=204

oh its from that post  , tl:dr


well Sony is finally stepping up with a web version of the PS store/movies, etc (though its just an SCEE thing right now)

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-gb/home/games


lets go nintendo, lets go.

[Tasty]

Rayman is out on February 26, demo is next Thursday. I'm a platformer hoe so I'm still interested even with the stupid dumb Murphy BS. Hopefully it's not as bad as we fear.

Then MH in March, and although I probably won't buy it, Pikmin in "Q3" (likely April I'd say.) Not really a long post-launch drought, although there will probably be a massive summer one after that. Hopefully some same-day ports fill in some gaps and aren't total jank.

Can't tell if you're being serious.

says the kid who doesnt even fully appreciate nintendos golden-era games

You have to remember, he's a dumb fucker

You sound cranky old man.

[Don Flamenco]

now that I think about it, I haven't beaten a single 3D 1st party nintendo game.   Started and stopped many, but I usually get bored part of the way through--- OOT, TP, Galaxy namely

[Eel O'Brian]

Me, either. I look at all the games on my Steam library and feel a bit guilty for owning all that stuff I'll likely never even get around to installing. On the other hand, I enjoy the games I do play a lot more nowadays.

[DCharlieJP]

I probably won't buy it, Pikmin in "Q3" (likely April I'd say.) Not really a long post-launch drough

so a game you won't buy out of a sea of, currently, nothing will signals a "not really a long post-launch drough(t)" ?

WiiU games currently set for Jan launch in Japan : 0

It's the Vita Console.

"Are they ever going to top X?" is a pretty dumb way to dismiss something. 

I'm not sure it is as the wider point is that they've lost touch with what made the classics so great and, in some cases, completely abandoned perfectly sellable franchises

The problem is they set the bar across the board in a number of areas and as generations have moved on they've slipped under or abandoned "popular"* franchises.

I don't have time at all for gaming anymore,

this is the crux of it basically - my normal day is : up at 6, housework, sit with son whilst breakfasting, get ready, walk to work, work, come home, pick up son, feed son, play with son/see wife, bed at 8 with son -or- bed on own, wife with son... but after a long day and it's sleep or gaming? Sleep every time

At the moment, it's obviously : up at 5:40, make breakfast, have breakfast with son, shower son, get son ready for school, handover son to mother in law, housework, get ready, walk to work, work, come home, pick up son, cook for son, feed son, play with son, sleep with son at 8.

The inevitable conclusion happens : why the fuck do i need a WiiU or a X720 or a PS4 at launch? I simply don't. I have no time. And unless Chromehounds 2 appears somehow then i can't see me jumping on anything until we have both our kids independently doing their own sh1t.

So - see console gaming in 6-7 years?

(watch as i buy a Wii U by thursday)

[TakingBackSunday]

christ nintendo needs to shitcan iwata and miyamoto

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I mostly bought the Wii U because I wanted to be a multiconsole owner at the beginning of the generation.  I've never done this before ever since I never had the disposable income to pull that off.  Now that I do, I'm doing it, if only just to say that I did it.  It's why I bought the 3DS and Vita as well.

Of course, I have maybe 10 hours at the most to play games per week.  Either I'm going to have a huge backlog or I need to start sleeping 4 hours a night just to remain caught up.

[Himu]

christ nintendo needs to shitcan iwata and miyamoto

miyamoto is no longer head of ead

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Iwata definitely needs to step down.  Reggie too if possible.  Maybe Pizza Hut will take him back.

[Joe Molotov]

He could bring back the Bigfoot Pizza and everyone would be happy.

[Barry Egan]

Reggie probably has nothing to do with what a clusterfuck this is.

[Don Flamenco]

MEGATON:   Dark Souls II not coming to WiiU

[Steve Youngblood]

Reggie probably has nothing to do with what a clusterfuck this is.

But do you agree that he should focus his attention on bringing back the Bigfoot pizza?

What else did he spearhead? The New Yorker?

[tiesto]

Mario - seems good so far, challenge seems to be ramping up quicker than the last DS game, which is good. Only up to world 2 though.

Tekken - fucking great. I haven't really followed the series since its PS1 heyday but the character roster is impressive, as are the number of stages in the game (any game that has a "Poland" stage is cool). Also Snoop Dogg stage is amazing. My friend is a huge 2D fighting game fan but loses interest quickly with 3D fighters (he didn't care for VF6 for instance) but we played this for hours today.

Nintendoland - about 99% absolute wack. Its just one giant tech demo for the different capabilities of the pad. Not unlike WiiSports, but at least WiiSports had the bowling game which was had a bit of staying power. The Yoshi fruit cart game is the absolute nadir, I could see how the Luigi's Mansion ghost chase could be fun with a few people as you sneak up on them and shit (I only played with one other person), Balloon Fight is OK. Mario chase and the Zelda game are shitty, as is the octopus dancing game. The best game (and this isn't saying much) is the ninja shooting game.

[Shaka Khan]

I heard there was a second big update. Any idea what it does?

[Purple Filth]

I heard there was a second big update. Any idea what it does?

that firmware supposedly lessened the freezes.

some claimed the OS was sped up a bit but it seems to be very minute or even a fucking placebo.

[DCharlieJP]

Why would they get rid of Iwata? I'm not particularly offended by him to be honest and he (if it was indeed "him" alone, which is unlikely) had a strong hand in steering Nintendo back to profits.

The Wii U has -yet- to truly fail, bravado aside, and if it does get that "new shine boost start" and establishes itself then he's done -yet another- job.

[Tasty]

I like Iwata as a CEO because he comes from a development background. I think it would be a massive step back if his successor wasn't similarly a game developer at one point.

Kinda just wish Nintendo would buy itself back and go private, but that'll never happen. If the board thinks Iwata's screwed up they can axe him anytime and put in some moron who has nothing to do with games, or a plant from another company like Elop/Nokia.

[Human Snorenado]

They should get out of the hardware business.

[G The Resurrected]

They should get out of the hardware business.

After my experience I'm inclined to agree with you.

They should be making software, and not hardware.

[Tasty]

They should get out of the hardware business.

Nah, they just need to hire people who actually get hardware and networking. Preferably from the west, and preferably from silicon valley. They should poach the hell out of some people.

[Shaka Khan]

Unyeah

Still gets me.

[Tasty]

You do realize that there is literally no benefit to Nintendo still being in the hardware business, right?

Define benefit. What's the benefit for Sony? Losing another couple billion dollars?

[Himu]

That is my plan as well but I am going to give the next gen consoles a shot to wow me. I kinda want the next box because for the majority of this generation, aside for about the year I switched to ps3, 360 has been my go to console this generation and that's where most of my dd game purchases that aren't steam are. I'd like those to carry over to the next box at least. That, and an entertainment machine (which 360 is great at).

[Tasty]

In terms of benefits to gamers I don't think saying less competition is the way to go either, necessarily. I mean, would we have gotten a two screen handheld from any other company? Probably not. We could go back and forth over what that contributed or didn't to gaming as a whole, but a not insignificant amount of games benefited from it, and it didn't take anything away from the rest.

Nintendo catches a lot of crap (rightly so) for focusing on hardware gimmicks over hardware strength but I do feel it would be pretty terrible if it was just Sony and Microsoft copying each other to the point where you can barely tell their hardware apart for all it adds.

Who knows, there still might be something out there to add to game systems like analog sticks, rumble, and dual screens, and if there is, do you think MS or Sony are going to risk trying it out? Probably not.

[DCharlieJP]

o you think MS or Sony are going to risk trying it out? Probably not.

both will put out new gimmicks this gen.

[Tasty]

* "new" gimmicks nintendo beta'd for them that they'll do properly

Yeah basically.

[Diunx]

I just realized, If I were an Euro weeeoooo owner and still had the same job I have now, I would only have two hours to download mature content for my games.

Nintendo

[Cerveza mas fina]

This is no blood in MK on SNES all over again. Glad i had a mega drive. God I miss Sega.

[cool breeze]

* "new" gimmicks nintendo beta'd for them that they'll do properly

That's my favorite part about the Move and Kinect.  Move replicated and improved upon the Wii remote from a capabilities standpoint.  Kinect took how people were using the Wii and improved on that experience, instead of one-upping the Wii remote.

Doesn't account for NSMB's popularity, but looking at sales for the 3DS and Wii U games, maybe Microsoft realized the audience were only momentarily enchanted by it, and the real drive was looking dumb in front of the TV.

and people don't give Microsoft (or old-Sony) enough credit sometimes.  Putting a mic jack in the 360 controller is probably why people talk in online games, compared to the PS3's ghost servers.

[maxy]

Latest developments(sales,big third party games avoiding WiiU like a plague) have made Nintendo fans pretty upset.
WiiU fit,WiiU Sports are now officially on the chalkboard.

[Human Snorenado]

Wii Fit U up our ass

[Eel O'Brian]

that video is cringe-inducing

[Purple Filth]

I just realized, If I were an Euro weeeoooo owner and still had the same job I have now, I would only have two hours to download mature content for my games.

Nintendo

i wonder if the download would disconnect if it wasn't finshed before the content is blocked again 

[Eel O'Brian]

*pause*

"Your filthy content will resume downloading at a decent hour."