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[G The Resurrected]

The WII-U has landed at home once again. FedEx dropped it off a few minutes ago. I'm not home though so I don't know if its my console or what. We shall see though when I get back home.

[DCharlieJP]

* "new" gimmicks nintendo beta'd for them that they'll do properly

I think MS and Sony see the pad thing as a minor gimmick they can shoehorn in with crap like smartglass. So no, i wouldn't expect the usual route of improving on what Nintendo are offering (especially as there's nothing worth copying this time)


sorry, "i wouldn't" = "you shouldn't"

[MCD]

Played with a Wii U yesterday...

Controller is the only next gen thing about it but the battery IS BAD BAD BAD. I will grab one once they sort out the OS bugs and when someone make a bigger battery (not that stupid Nyko addon).

Controller is great to hold. Ergonomic and very light despite how it looks and it turning into a handheld is phenomenal. I totally want MS/Sony to make a copycat and add more features and a better battery. And at least with MS/Sony we don't need to buy a classic controller.

[DCharlieJP]

I just wonder if Nintendo are going to release a Pro Controller Pad + at some point ? lol.

And , being the arseholes they are, STILL won't allow you to unpair the original one! lol

[maxy]

I totally want MS/Sony to make a copycat and add more features and a better battery. And at least with MS/Sony we don't need to buy a classic controller.

The last thing MS needs is an expensive controller in the box.I have no objections against separately sold shit though(Xbox Surface yay).

[bork]

Just popped into Best Buy.  The store was packed.  There were a large amount of Wii U 8GB and 32GB units just sitting there.  Everyone was looking at PS3 and 360 games and they only had a few of those consoles left.  I can't even remember the last time a new major console (not portable) release was not selling right out like this.

[DCharlieJP]

Sounds like units still available here too- Even Amazon not sold out.

As per prior posts - SMBC analyst claimed 300k-400k shipment for Japan holidays only.

[maxy]

Either Nintendo is pumping tons of units into US or Wii = double-edged sword.

[Purple Filth]

stolen from GAF

http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2012/8days.html

WiiU cracked? (marcan gave cryptic info during his spec talk earlier but...) and no i'm not talking the homebrew Wii stuff working on Wii U



edit:

Hector Martin‏@marcan42

 Pro tip: 40 character hex strings are usually SHA1 hashes, not encryption keys.

so no key yet but progress?

very interesting

[DCharlieJP]

Japantimes :

"It was a good start," Nintendo spokesman Yasuhiro Minagawa said of Saturday's debut in Japan, adding that the product has sold out in the United States.

"We'd like to keep this momentum next year," he said.

Minagawa said Nintendo expects the Wii U to draw brisk demand throughout Japan, based on the number of advance orders.

The Kyoto-based company plans to sell 5.5 million consoles and 24 million games by the end of next March.

"The sales of the Wii U seem favorable so far," said Etsuko Tamura, an analyst at Mizuho Investors Securities Co., adding that the company may face a supply shortage.

Supply shortage.... hmmm. I'm still curious why all the preorders vanished overnight across japan last thursday! Perhaps that was the deadline for final unit orders and stores decided to say "fuck it" and didn't want to take on a bulk of extra stock (?)

Again - preorders were out since September - they didn't sell out preorders which is , basically, unheard of (unless you believe everyone waited to the thursday before the launch and all simultaneously went out and got preorders right there and then).

This is going to be fascinating to watch - this could be a complete and utter train wreck of a launch.

[Don Flamenco]

they keep lying about sell outs in the U.S.

[DCharlieJP]

I think given theyre doing the same now in Japan when it seems its not the case that they're in "keep repeating, hope it sticks - if we keep repeating it people will buy into it"

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maybe when they say stocks are low they are talking bout the Nikkei you eejits.

[Cerveza mas fina]

No WiiU posters for Xmas Bomba.

[MrAngryFace]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

[G The Resurrected]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

Let me know when and where you die. So I can bash your skull in and take your goodies!  DIAMONDS!!!

[Sho Nuff]

Just wait -- 2 weeks before xmas there will surely be a rush and all Weeoo product will be SOLD OUT

[Purple Filth]

another Digital Foundry comparison: Darksiders 2

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-darksiders-2-on-wii-u-face-off

And so another Wii U launch title arrives that doesn't quite hold its own against the existing PS3 and 360 versions. After the fairly impressive work done on the Wii U port of Assassin's Creed 3, we can't help but feel a little disappointed with Vigil Games' efforts here. The removal of light shafts and environmental detail doesn't overly harm the game considering that the core artwork is a close match in other areas, but the sharp drops in performance are hard to ignore when the low frame-rate has a noticeable impact on the feel of the controls, making them heavier and less responsive.

In terms of the Wii U-specific features, the added touch-screen controls do prove useful, making navigation of the cumbersome menus a breeze compared to using the standard controller on the other platforms, although we could do without having certain moves being mapped to the GamePad's motion sensing functions. In addition, with the poorer performance and reduced visual quality, it also means that there's little reason to pick up the Wii U version at full price when the PS3 and 360 versions can be purchased new for as little as £20 online (though obviously the DLC packs are not included).

In the final analysis, the PS3 version remains the most impressive version of the game with higher-quality textures in places and superior performance, followed by the 360 release, while the Wii U sits in last place. While short on platform-specific enhancements, the PC version is the one to play if you have the necessary horsepower to sustain higher resolutions and frame-rates. Regardless of its issues, Darksiders 2 is still worth picking up on Wii U if you don't have access to any of the other platforms: the game itself is large and rewarding to play, and the narrative nicely complements the original Darksiders with a concurrently running story that expands on the events of the first game. As a final recommendation though, we'd perhaps hold fire on a Wii U purchase until it comes down in price.

IIRC this was the game devs were boasting on how they got it running quick and should be the best console version 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.

[bork]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.

Damn, the 50 people who bought it on Wii U won't be able to play now.   :'(

[Joe Molotov]

But what about Funky Farm!?

[EmCeeGrammar]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.

Damn, the 50 people who bought it on Wii U won't be able to play now.   :'(

They can play all they want, its just got a low population atm. Can you read?

[bork]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.

Damn, the 50 people who bought it on Wii U won't be able to play now.   :'(

They can play all they want, its just got a low population atm. Can you read?

I cannot; I thought you said "broken."

[Tasty]

Picked up ZombiU- ended up getting Sonic All Stars Transformed for 360 to play it safe.

Sonic kart got fixed on the wii u, although the online is apparently barren.

The patch finally got pushed to US? Last I heard it was only in Euroland.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm no gaming expert - or maybe I am, hence why I only play PC titles  - but here's my question for you folks. The Wii had a software shortage for a couple years to put it lightly. The 3DS launched with next to nothing before Nintendo threw out some various halfass, spiced up stuff like Mario Kart and NSMB.

So...what the fuck have Nintendo's developers been doing for the last 3 years? I honestly assumed they had a bunch of shit planned early for the WiiU, given the software drought the Wii had. Yet it launched with...a spiced up Wii port of NSMB and Nintendo Land, which, if games were vinyl singles, would have been the b-side of WiiPlay 6 years ago.

Is the plan just to release a couple Mario titles, a couple Zelda titles, one Metroid, one Mario Kart, one Animal Crossing...and then use the profits to build a slightly weaker version of the competition's console for the next generation?

[maxy]

HD development is hard,please understand.

[Tasty]

I'm no gaming expert - or maybe I am, hence why I only play PC titles  - but here's my question for you folks. The Wii had a software shortage for a couple years to put it lightly. The 3DS launched with next to nothing before Nintendo threw out some various halfass, spiced up stuff like Mario Kart and NSMB.

So...what the fuck have Nintendo's developers been doing for the last 3 years? I honestly assumed they had a bunch of shit planned early for the WiiU, given the software drought the Wii had. Yet it launched with...a spiced up Wii port of NSMB and Nintendo Land, which, if games were vinyl singles, would have been the b-side of WiiPlay 6 years ago.

Is the plan just to release a couple Mario titles, a couple Zelda titles, one Metroid, one Mario Kart, one Animal Crossing...and then use the profits to build a slightly weaker version of the competition's console for the next generation?

I think the "plan" is to publish a frackton of Japanese third party games and outsource as much development as possible (like OoT 3D and Smash) while they adjust to HD development, which will probably take a while.

[Rahxephon91]

If that plan leads to more stuff like Bayonetta then I'm good. I would like to see Nintendo throw it's money around to other developers to fill out it's publishing work. I mean if that's what you're talking about.

[maxy]

Console looked undercooked at E3,launched undercooked so it would not surprise me that software is seriously lagging behind too.
I guess they were spinning in their office chairs thinking Wii sold well,WiiU will too.

Wait for E3.

[Tasty]

If that plan leads to more stuff like Bayonetta then I'm good. I would like to see Nintendo throw it's money around to other developers to fill out it's publishing work. I mean if that's what you're talking about.

Stuff like that yeah, although Bayo is a special case since they're funding development too.

[mjemirzian]

Well I've decided this boxing day I'm getting a

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Vita.

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[mjemirzian]

Wow, never realized they had that much first party development.

From a business/Nintendo-centric perspective, do you think their choices for the Wii U are going to pan out? Not minding the forum wars going on over the system.

[Third]

WiiU's EVERYWHERE

Even I didn't expect it to bomb so hard 

[Brehvolution]

NSD: Last game: Can't Decide What to Eat?

 

[Don Flamenco]

Nintendo: "Europe store time limits on mature content are because of German law." 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503505

but then this gaffer provides statutory citations to prove this is bullshit (the law is about television and the time frames don't actually match up):
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45270335&postcount=79


and also, german law does not apply to all of europe.  it almost did once, but then the world stopped them from doing that.  So, this move is clearly an expression of NoJ's secret wishes to revive the Axis of WW2 and that's why you shouldn't buy a WiiU.  After all, why would Nintendo put their EU headquarters in Germany?  Think about it.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

[archnemesis]

It's just Nintendo being overprotective again. They should just hide all the stupid behind parental controls instead.

[Tasty]

This is sweet karma for those jerks getting Xeno first and bragging about it for months.

So why does it look like they have a drought ahead when they should have lots?  Part of it is localization shit (NoA doesn't release a lot of the titles NoJ does)

It's NCL, Oscar-kun.

part of it is that Nintendo announces things like a month before they release unless it's the big cannons.  I don't doubt there's going to be a post-launch drought on the WiiU, but it's hardly unique in that respect.  Not many consoles hit the ground running and keep running, especially in this day and age where system launches are worldwide.  Nintendo's probably going to have a lot to talk about soon enough.  I wouldn't hold my breath for any third party action, though.  Money is tight enough in this industry without throwing it away at what is obviously a waste of time and money.

Like I said, third party wise the most interesting games are probably going to be Nintendo published and/or funded. It's win-win-lose; Nintendo gets HD games to fill out their catalog quickly, third parties get cash to offset development, but Nintendo loses a bit of money.

[Third]

I have absolutely no interest in the PS4 or X720 after getting the Wii U. Great job to Nintendo for improving upon the Wii in every way people wanted.

We know the PS4 will have a painful controller and the 720 will be a watered down PC with a yearly online fee.

NO THANKS.

 

[parallax]

I have absolutely no interest in the PS4 or X720 after getting the Wii U. Great job to Nintendo for improving upon the Wii in every way people wanted.

We know the PS4 will have a painful controller and the 720 will be a watered down PC with a yearly online fee.

NO THANKS.

 

so the first is complacent with current gen hardware, and the second is a time traveler. nintendo fans are amazing.

[benjipwns]

Just wait until they unlock the rest of the watts before you all condemn Nintendo and their engineers.

[Sho Nuff]

It's not about the watts it's how you USE them!! Derpy Derp Derp

[Van Cruncheon]

are watts the new gpgpu

[benjipwns]

Just think, Nintendo is MATCHING the 360 and PS3 despite lazy developers who don't understand the complexity of the hardware and only had a few weeks to port the games. When Nintendo ups the power on the hardware once they decide the third party developers are experienced enough to handle it they will be pushing some amazing visuals especially when you account for how progressive and easy to work with the design is. And that's to not even mention what someone like Retro or Monolith Soft is going to pull off. 

And it will still probably even use less power than whatever loud and simple derivative PCs in a box that Microsoft tries to shove down everyones throats.

[Sho Nuff]

K-kool NintenBros waiting for launch

[Oblivion]

So Digital Foundry did one of their little graphics comparison articles, this time on Trine 2, and their verdict is that the Wii-U version looks the best of the bunch (well, minus PC). Am I taking crazy pills here or something, cause the Wii-U screens look (relatively) horrible imo:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-trine-2-face-off

There seems to be less geometry, lower res textures and shittier lighting. 

[Joe Molotov]

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Just wait until they unlock the rest of the watts before you all condemn Nintendo and their engineers.

The "w" actually stands for Whimsies, of course Netflix and FIFA don't have very many, but when NSMBU is running, it's outputting at least 1000w!

[Sho Nuff]

So Digital Foundry did one of their little graphics comparison articles, this time on Trine 2, and their verdict is that the Wii-U version looks the best of the bunch (well, minus PC). Am I taking crazy pills here or something, cause the Wii-U screens look (relatively) horrible imo:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-trine-2-face-off

There seems to be less geometry, lower res textures and shittier lighting. 

VICTORY FOR WEEOO

[Sho Nuff]

Pissed off Japanese woman pointing out the retardedness of load times. Japan is unamused

[Joe Molotov]

According to GAF, less than 30 seconds for menu to load is really fast, quit being so entitled.

[D3RANG3D]

According to GAF, less than 30 seconds for menu to load is really fast, quit being so entitled.

 

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45159089&postcount=850

[pilonv1]

Plenty of time to make a sandwitch

oh wait wrong defense force

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45159089&postcount=850

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[recursivelyenumerable]

So should I trade in my C64 1541 for this?

[Sho Nuff]

Wait for Epyx to release the Fast Load cartridge

[Stoney Mason]

Pissed off Japanese woman pointing out the retardedness of load times. Japan is unamused

That is insane. Please tell me that is atypical.

[Shaka Khan]

Pissed off Japanese woman pointing out the retardedness of load times. Japan is unamused

Youtube's CC translation: "Sudden death was an unconventional province thought rode downtown."

Sums up the Wii U perfectly.

[Himu]

[Trent Dole]

I'll take it

[Sho Nuff]

She's saying exactly what you think she is. "What is this shit? Why is this so slow? Is it the OS? Is it the lack of RAM? I don't get this. It's just taking insanely long. This is nuts."