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[Joe Molotov]

Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U

ouiaboo

Close this thread, it's peaked out.

[DCharlieJP]

ouiaboo

holy shit 

[AdmiralViscen]

fuck

[Tasty]

Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U

Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U

ouiaboo

[Van Cruncheon]

Rayman Origins > New Super Mario Bros. U

ouiaboo

[Van Cruncheon]

in his defense, i like rayman origins loads better than nsmb u

[Fifstar]

I've only played the first 4 worlds of Origins and only beat NSMBW on an emu but so fargameplay wise Mario is loads better gameplay wise then Origins. Rayman is basically a JumpnRun on rails, there is no interaction between the elements in the levels whatsoever, nothing has feel or weight to it and the levels regurgitate the same simple ideas over and over again. It's presentations is great and I will probably return to it because of that, but overall it's the Donkey Kong Country (1) of this generation (although at least Donkey Kong had a great feel for weight to it).

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Rayman Origins is better than NSMBU: better graphics, better music, better/tighter level design, better in-level challenges, and is generally a fresh take on 2D platformers.  The only thing that NSMBU has over Rayman Origins is that the Nintendo logo is slapped on it, which is a pretty big deal to some people, but no, Origins is a much better game and I really liked NSMBU.

[Tasty]

I've only played the first 4 worlds of Origins and only beat NSMBW on an emu but so fargameplay wise Mario is loads better gameplay wise then Origins. Rayman is basically a JumpnRun on rails, there is no interaction between the elements in the levels whatsoever, nothing has feel or weight to it and the levels regurgitate the same simple ideas over and over again. It's presentations is great and I will probably return to it because of that, but overall it's the Donkey Kong Country (1) of this generation (although at least Donkey Kong had a great feel for weight to it).

What did I call the French version of whimsy? "Charm?" 

[Tasty]

I've only played the first 4 worlds of Origins and only beat NSMBW on an emu but so fargameplay wise Mario is loads better gameplay wise then Origins. Rayman is basically a JumpnRun on rails, there is no interaction between the elements in the levels whatsoever, nothing has feel or weight to it and the levels regurgitate the same simple ideas over and over again. It's presentations is great and I will probably return to it because of that, but overall it's the Donkey Kong Country (1) of this generation (although at least Donkey Kong had a great feel for weight to it).

What did I call the French version of whimsy? "Charm?"

ouimsy

Oscar was just building on what I started.

Ouimsy is definitely the better term tho.

[Tasty]

Origins? I thought we were talking about the Legends demo.

I will concede that Legends will probably be worse than Origins considering all the murphy jank and licensed music levels.

[headwalk]

i played a wii u today. it didn't strike me beforehand how completely jarring it is to keep having to switch my focus between two screens of complete different sizes at different distances. it's really quite a terrible idea. i feel like my dead grandma trying to type an email.

[Purple Filth]

DCharlie


Well some posters who are really on Nintendo's cock in the MC thread are giving him shit so i guess not all hope is lost yet.

[tiesto]

The WiiU Rayman demo wasn't that bad, I think that's the only Rayman I have ever played though. That's different from Origins right?

[naff]

Origins? I thought we were talking about the Legends demo.

I will concede that Legends will probably be worse than Origins considering all the murphy jank and licensed music levels.

Huh wha? OH right you guys were talking about THAT game, the one that was mentioned 24 times this page. I thought you were talking about the one nobody else was talking about

[Tasty]

The WiiU Rayman demo wasn't that bad, I think that's the only Rayman I have ever played though. That's different from Origins right?

They look pretty similar and considering the one year turnaround time I'd be surprised if they played vastly differently too.

[Third]

Can't believe ntards are calling this Rayman a systemseller.

Origins sold like 12 copies

[bork]

Can't believe ntards are calling this Rayman a systemseller.

Origins sold like 12 copies

Wii U owners are already starved for new games?

[Tasty]

Can't believe ntards are calling this Rayman a systemseller.

Origins sold like 12 copies

I think it's more of a revenge thing considering how Origins was held up as "NSMB Wii but not a retread!!! Plus HIGH DEFINITION ouimsy!!" Now the sequel is exclusively on a Nintendo system so Nfans are probably hoping there's some schadenfraude from the Origins lovers/NSMBW bashers.

Personally I was warming up to getting to play it until the Murphy crap was announced, then my hype went stone cold. I'll still probably get it eventually because lol drought and I like platformers but it's not a system reaffirmer anymore.

[bork]

"murphy crap?"   

[Sho Nuff]

Second-screen finger-flailing

[Mr. Gundam]

Yeah, you don't control Rayman, you control the little floaty guy with touchscreen actions.

[bork]

 

[Joe Molotov]

You can play as Rayman in multiplayer, but single player? LOL NOPE, get ready for some red hot, touchscreen Murphy action!

[Tasty]

You can play as Rayman in multiplayer, but single player? LOL NOPE, get ready for some red hot, touchscreen Murphy action!

*for up to half the game

How much is spent as Murphy is unknown, hoping reviews will be the guide there.

[cool breeze]

Demo had three types of levels.  One was traditional, the other was the touch screen business, and the last was practically a rhythm game (closest comparison in Origins were those tooth chasing levels).

What stood out more is how different the traditional level was structured compared to Origins.  Origins smartly combined classic and modern platforming design for levels.  Legends is one long level that checkpoints you at spots, and your goal is to break cages.  It doesn't seem to have the multiple challenges from Origins.  But it's a demo, so who knows how well it represents the final game.

And demo play limits are back! Rayman is 30 plays and Sonic is 15.  3DS demos are as low as 3 plays.

[Don Flamenco]

it's a shame this thread got closed after drinky dropped the megaton:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45453985&postcount=202

[D3RANG3D]

it's a shame this thread got closed after drinky dropped the megaton:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45453985&postcount=202

That's lame :'(

[ManaByte]

I haven't tried it on the PS3, but the Hulu Plus app on the Wii U is really good. Better than the shitty Apple TV one. It'll play episodes of tv seasons continuously, where on the Apple TV app it stops after every episode.

Netflix app is good too.

[DCharlieJP]

Yeah, i think i have a post akin to Drinky's in an old thread which was basically "Yeah, who wants to play a console experience on a handled? Oh... you lot apparently... but only if you can't leave the house with it"

[maxy]

drinky dropped the megaton

Yeah,what is up with that?
There is a total lack of various nindrones going bu bu bu nobody wants to play console games on a handheld.
Isn't that 3DS DQ7 shit that they all drool about  essentially a console game on a handheld?

[Don Flamenco]

i dunno man.   as i walk through the valley of the shadow of death, i take a look at my vita and realize...it's not selling well

[Momo]

This stupid picture made me laugh more than it had a right to

[Cerveza mas fina]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

[D3RANG3D]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

 

[Sho Nuff]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

Total annihilation

[Purple Filth]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

 

[Diunx]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

[headwalk]

i kinda like the idea of off-screen play. it's neat. having a central server stream high performance games to a tethered handheld device. neato. i probably wouldn't use it, being the desktop conservative that i am, but i appreciate the idea.

the thing is, the wii u isn't high performance. it's close to what you'd expect from a typical tablet or devoted handheld device, rendering itself desperately redundant.

if off-screen is the revelatory raison d'etre for the tablet, why include it in the standard package? it's clearly not essential if its sole purpose is going to be mirroring the primary feed. why not make a console out of parts you didn't have to salvage from goodwill refuse and sell the tablet as an accessory?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I use the off-screen feature all the time.  I guess you might as well take advantage of the few decent features the Wii U has.  It's why I like to use the TV remote function on it as well.

[Eel O'Brian]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

kapow!

[Flannel Boy]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

 

[Joe Molotov]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

[Human Snorenado]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

FLAWLESS VICTORY

[Tasty]

This Rayman Legends demo "borrows" so much from NSMB Wii/U and DKCR it's almost shameless.

Ancel

[Diunx]

I heard you have to jump from platform to platform with bottomless pits in between.

[Sho Nuff]

I heard you have to jump from platform to platform with bottomless pits in between.

Holy shit creative bankruptcy

[tiesto]

I'm a bit too addicted to drawing stupid-ass pics in the miiverse.

[treythemovie]

While I loved Origins, I've been suspicious of Rayman Legends from the get go since I don't trust Ubisoft. The whole situation reeks of another replay of what happened to Rayman Raving Rabbids: a really cool hyped up idea that everyone wants that ultimately gets cut down to some stupid mini-game collection/touch-pad bullshit in order to make it by launch. At least this time they're giving it a few more months of development time.

Also, I haven't heard Ancel talk about it for a long time, which makes me suspicious that he has moved on to another project and that we're all being punked again.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Legends doesn't interest me in the least once I found out it wasn't going to be much like Origins.

[Tasty]

Knocking foreground objects like flowers for extra collectables = DKCR
Three collectable things per level, rating you how you did on it = NSMB DS
Bubbling = NSMB Wii even though Ancel denies it
Other stuff I forgot about

About the only thing different is control wise, run is assigned to a shoulder button instead of also being the attack button like in DKCR. Otherwise the levels and mechanics are pretty similar. Except for the awful Murphy stuff which is 100% Ancel and even worse than I imagined.

But I guess people can't see past the ouimsical graphics. I shouldn't be surprised.

[benjipwns]

Knocking foreground objects like flowers for extra collectables = DKCR
Three collectable things per level, rating you how you did on it = NSMB DS
Bubbling = NSMB Wii even though Ancel denies it

Or...Yoshi's Island?

[Himu]

A 2006 meme fits perfectly on 2006 hardware.

 

[archie4208]

Knocking foreground objects like flowers for extra collectables = DKCR
Three collectable things per level, rating you how you did on it = NSMB DS
Bubbling = NSMB Wii even though Ancel denies it

Or...Yoshi's Island?

He's too young to remember that game.

[pilonv1]

I'd like to see Andrex play Boshy.

[Don Flamenco]

knocking objects for items and collecting a certain number of an item are some generic gameplay mechanics for a platformer.   I know I've seen something like bubbling before too.  I don't think any of that originated in Wii and DS games.

[Joe Molotov]

Not to mention Super Mario World having Yoshi Coins for you to collect. Have you even played a game older than 5 years old, Andrex?

[Tasty]

Not to mention Super Mario World having Yoshi Coins for you to collect. Have you even played a game older than 5 years old, Andrex?

Yoshi coins are pretty different. I mean, most obviously they're not tallied at the end of the levels, they're not "persistent" across level replaying, and the game doesn't tell you how many of them you've gotten in a level from the world map. They're basically useful for getting an extra 1up, not for measuring any kind of skill or level completion. For starters.

Yoshi's Island is included in this obviously, but I was focusing on contemporary games. The original Rayman 2D platformers could have riffed on Yoshi's Island for tallying things at the end of levels too but they didn't, so it was pretty obvious to me it was a modern influence. In fact, Legends seems more influenced by NSMBW/DKCR than the original Rayman (can't comment on the sequels.)

You people can be pretty thick sometimes.

[benjipwns]

The original Rayman 2D platformers could have riffed on Yoshi's Island for tallying things at the end of levels too but they didn't

Probably because they came out at almost exactly the same time. Within weeks of each other.

Rayman 2 does "score" you at the end of the level for the stuff you've collected. But it's hardly the only 3D or 2D platformer from that era alone to do that. Spyro, Crash, etc. all do.

[Joe Molotov]

Not to mention Super Mario World having Yoshi Coins for you to collect. Have you even played a game older than 5 years old, Andrex?

Yoshi coins are pretty different. I mean, most obviously they're not tallied at the end of the levels, they're not "persistent" across level replaying, and the game doesn't tell you how many of them you've gotten in a level from the world map. They're basically useful for getting an extra 1up, not for measuring any kind of skill or level completion. For starters.

O RLY?

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GBA edition only, still collecting stuff in platforming games is a million years old.

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