Game

[hampster]

Nah, we're already past VB.  this is shaping up to be more like Saturn.

Well as long as it ends up better than the 32X the Wii U won't be the worst purchase I ever made

Star Wars Arcade

[Cerveza mas fina]

199 Premium would be an ok deal, esp if they made it play blu rays and dvd's.

[Trent Dole]

199 Premium would be an ok deal, esp if they made it play blu rays and dvd's.

Yeah, 199 for the nontard slightly less tarded pack and a couple worthwhile games would make me jump in.

[Powerslave]

What I'm fearing the most with this is Wii U taking off and becoming another Wii/DS/3DS. It's annoying how Nintendo keep making comebacks. I thought 3DS would get what was coming to it with its 3D gimmick and look at it now, on the way of beating the DS.

[Joe Molotov]

Nah, we're already past VB.  this is shaping up to be more like Saturn.

I'm assuming it won't be as much of an import darling, if at all.

Yes, I meant only in WW sales.  Otherwise, this is, I dunno, not VB bad but not PC-Engine/Saturn good, either.  3DO-esque maybe?

WiiD0

[Trent Dole]

What I'm fearing the most with this is Wii U taking off and becoming another Wii/DS/3DS. It's annoying how Nintendo keep making comebacks. I thought 3DS would get what was coming to it with its 3D gimmick and look at it now, on the way of beating the DS.

I kind of doubt that in the states at least.

[cool breeze]

I'd like a comeback/success in the sense that it becomes a sustainable platform for Nintendo games.  At the end of the day I'm more interesting in what Nintendo can do on an xbox 360 than a psp.  But I also don't want it to be a player in the next gen rodeo and draw attention from third parties.  The 'low end' for next gen game should be the PS4 or the next Xbox; no anchors to this 360-era.  I want the best of both worlds  :'(

save us, Dyack 

[ManaByte]

The problem with the Wii U was that there was a four month period with NO new games out.

That's fixed now with Monster Hunter, Lego CITY, and some ports. But at least there's something new to play on the system now.

Most likely will pick up Monster Hunter in a few hours.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation. I dunno what the console's long term viability is but a strong 4mo launch period would have capitalized on the window between now and the PS4 launch.

[maxy]

We would then laugh about crappy third party sales/lack of casual audience.

Nintendo can't win this round.

[Mr. Gundam]

The problem with the Wii U was that there was a four month period with NO new games out.

That's fixed now with Monster Hunter, Lego CITY, and some ports. But at least there's something new to play on the system now.

Most likely will pick up Monster Hunter in a few hours.

After this little spurt of releases, how long is the next gaming drought?

[Damian79]

HMV UK is selling Wii U for 199 pounds.   For the deluxe version with Zombie U.

[Great Rumbler]

Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation.

That's one thing that really gets me. How did Nintendo think they were going to be able to sell this thing with no huge titles at launch and then absolutely nothing at all for MONTHS?

[Purple Filth]

Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation.

That's one thing that really gets me. How did Nintendo think they were going to be able to sell this thing with no huge titles at launch and then absolutely nothing at all for MONTHS?

That Wii name son.

Same like how Sony thought about the Playstation name for the PS3 

[magus]

Yea but a lack of games is at the top of the list. If Nintendo launched with multiple first party titles over the first three months we wouldn't be having this conversation.

That's one thing that really gets me. How did Nintendo think they were going to be able to sell this thing with no huge titles at launch and then absolutely nothing at all for MONTHS?

well they launched new super mario bros u and nintendoland... isn't that the sort of stuff that sold big on the wii anyway? i doubt the console would have had a bigger success if it launched with galaxy 3 or something like that no?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

no, but having a game called Wii Sports 2 on it would've helped it alot for the casuals.

[Joe Molotov]

I don't even know what Nintendo does anymore. I saw several reviews saying that Luigi's Mansion 2 is the best 3DS game yet, and they didn't even make it.

[Eel O'Brian]

hey, maybe it'll get bioshock infinahahahaha

[Phoenix Dark]

actually, i don't know if they had any illusions about it after the tepid reception to it at e3.  but they really didn't have any choice.  the games weren't ready, and delaying the system launch to be anywhere near proper next-gen systems would have been disastrous as well.

yea but is it that hard to throw out some HD port of a Wii game for quick bux?

[cool breeze]

I don't even know what Nintendo does anymore. I saw several reviews saying that Luigi's Mansion 2 is the best 3DS game yet, and they didn't even make it.

Seems like a good idea for Nintendo to grow other/western studios.  If you look at next level's output (luigi mansion 2 dev) by Nintendo and non-Nintendo games, there's something Nintendo must be doing right with them.  And arguably the most exciting Wii U game is whatever Retro's doing. 

and there was that thing about how NSMB2 3DS was handled by interns/the next generation of nintendo japan...we all know how that turned out.  Leave luck to Canadians and Texans.

[D3RANG3D]

actually, i don't know if they had any illusions about it after the tepid reception to it at e3.  but they really didn't have any choice.  the games weren't ready, and delaying the system launch to be anywhere near proper next-gen systems would have been disastrous as well.

yea but is it that hard to throw out some HD port of a Wii game for quick bux?

Nintendo if I remember correctly was trying to get help from 3rd party devs because they cannot into HD.

[Joe Molotov]

They're probably having trouble with the town.

[cool breeze]

unrelated question about the Wii: does anyone know if there was an agreement to keep Castlevania and Contra Rebirth on the Wii? always wondered why Konami never brought them to XBLA/PSN/Steam.  3DS or Wii U would also be a better place for them.  I can't imagine games on Wiiware sold well and those two in particular feel wasted.


That blaster master game, too, but I haven't played that to know if it requires wii specific controls. 

[Phoenix Dark]

actually, i don't know if they had any illusions about it after the tepid reception to it at e3.  but they really didn't have any choice.  the games weren't ready, and delaying the system launch to be anywhere near proper next-gen systems would have been disastrous as well.

yea but is it that hard to throw out some HD port of a Wii game for quick bux?

Nintendo if I remember correctly was trying to get help from 3rd party devs because they cannot into HD.

well I got nothin' brehs

[Sho Nuff]

A friend and I got hella drunk and were wading through the Miiverse, mostly for horrible games like Jeopardy and Walking Dead. It was so sad that it bordered on hysterical.

[Joe Molotov]

A friend and I got hella drunk and were wading through the Miiverse, mostly for horrible games like Jeopardy and Walking Dead. It was so sad that it bordered on hysterical.

I could see how someone could legitimately buy Walking Dead if they were fans of the show/comic/other game and weren't paying attention, but Jeopardy? Come on, brehs, have a little self respect.

[Sho Nuff]

It all just reeks of such sad desperation. Almost every game, regardless of quality, has a bunch of people asking is this game any good?, and people responding "I THINK IT'S NOT PERFECT BUT FUN"

[Cascade]

They're probably having trouble with the town.

I really don't think their management is idiotic. More that everything that's ever gone wrong for Nintendo is coming to a head. Their decisions with the N64, a culture of conservation of resources and conservatism. The game market changing around them. Heck the burden of having a reputation as being so successful in terms of banking money - I wonder if part of their problem is that the shareholders (who don't give a shit what they make or how they do it) expect Nintendo to always make a great return on thrifty expenditures.

They never operated like, say, Sony. So suddenly behaving the way a gaming public demands (sell premium technology at a big loss just to get it in people's hands, etc), would seem like reckless insanity and unjustifiable to people Iwata has to explain himself to. Especially when companies like Sony themselves are not doing so great with that strategy.

Iwata: "We have decided it is prudent to invest in inroads to the 'core' audience that once associated Nintendo with leading support for software publishers. To this end, our new console employs very advanced technology required to achieve parity in multiplatform software support from contemporary publishers."

Shareholders: "We have recently sold our stock in Sony because such behavior alarms us! Such companies are performing poorly. How can you justify this wasteful product that will post great losses on every unit sold? I have seen many people recently on streets using mobile phones to manipulate computer software. Why are you not developing mobile phone computer software?"

Iwata: "..." LASERS WARM UP

Miyamoto: "Now you done fucked up."

[DCharlieJP]

I really don't think their management is idiotic

I point you in the direction of them buying a shit ton of land and starting to build new offices there with the sole purpose of next gen dev....

.... They are still putting the buildings up.

So they're looking at 2-3 years lag on getting anything out on Wii U.

Also - Iwata could have went to investors and explained that the reason that the Wii "tail" was so weak was because the low technology spend at the start meant that they could not attract 3rd parties , could not get ports and were unable to keep pace with the competition so this time a more aggressive spend initially would help prepare them for the future.

It didn't have to cost an arm and a leg either to get them to a point where they could have slotted in as the "least powerful next gen machine" - basically hitting that lowest common denominator point meaning that having the Wii U as the base dev machine might have been an option. But no - they went with xbox361 and now it's exploded in their face.

Their management has tried to pull the Wii trick twice - they got away with it with the 3ds (at a huge cost) but the WiiU isn't going to be so lucky

[maxy]

It's almost like Nintendo didn't care about consumer shift to HD electronics,game development shift to shaders,hd development...
HD development,you say?We'll care about that when the time comes.

"We did it with Wii,we can do it again...Weeeooooo"

[Sho Nuff]

Rewind a second.

Why would you be getting hella drunk with someone and going on the Wii U? That's like the most boring shit you could do.

We had to drink in order to deal with the janky-ass shit that is CO-OP MONSTER HUNTER

[Cerveza mas fina]

It's almost like Nintendo didn't care about consumer shift to HD electronics,game development shift to shaders,hd development...
HD development,you say?We'll care about that when the time comes.

"We did it with Wii,we can do it again...Weeeooooo"

shaders
post processing

60 watt power usage and small format

[DCharlieJP]

Rewind a second.

Why would you be getting hella drunk with someone and going on the Wii U? That's like the most boring shit you could do.

We had to drink in order to deal with the janky-ass shit that is CO-OP MONSTER HUNTER

As much as I love the series it's the same damned game as it was in 2002.

They are never going to evolve it off the ps2 base - ever.

"Bu bu bu bu guess which monster from the ps2 games is back in Mh4?!? Woooooooo" :/

[Purple Filth]

Rewind a second.

Why would you be getting hella drunk with someone and going on the Wii U? That's like the most boring shit you could do.

We had to drink in order to deal with the janky-ass shit that is CO-OP MONSTER HUNTER

As much as I love the series it's the same damned game as it was in 2002.

They are never going to evolve it off the ps2 base - ever.

"Bu bu bu bu guess which monster from the ps2 games is back in Mh4?!? Woooooooo" :/

well it makes a shit ton now and i assume the ROI is really fucking high given the PS2 level stuff it uses. 

[maxy]

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/22/4136048/deus-ex-human-revolution-directors-cut-wii-u-pax-east

So the developers held focus groups and searched out some of the chief complaints about the PS3, PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game. Once they determined what some of the most common, significant negative reactions were to that game they set about coming up with fixes.

"There was a lot of frustration with boss fights," he said. "We had a lot of criticism that the boss battles didn't match the multipath flow of the rest of the game.

"Now we have a way for each boss to be defeated without a single bullet. You still have to work at it, but it gives the players options."

The game was lengthened by incorporating both Deus Ex's DLC mission The Missing Link and the pre-order bonus mission.

"It not just that you can choose Human Revolution or The Missing Link," he said. "It's part of the game as a chapter. It flows smoothly into the story line. It's integrated more into the storyline."

The content hits about two-thirds of the way into the game and forces players to respec Adam using all of the Praxis earned so far. That tweaking of the character's augmentations and abilities doesn't revert when the now integrated Missing Link content ends; players simply continue with the game with Adam as he is.

The game also includes the ability to replay through the game after you have completed it without having to reset Adam. That way, Pedneault said, a player can eventually unlock all of the augmentations and make a "perfect" Adam.

[Positive Touch]

GIVE ME A PORT GODDAMMIT

[AdmiralViscen]

They're probably having trouble with the town.

I really don't think their management is idiotic. More that everything that's ever gone wrong for Nintendo is coming to a head. Their decisions with the N64, a culture of conservation of resources and conservatism. The game market changing around them. Heck the burden of having a reputation as being so successful in terms of banking money - I wonder if part of their problem is that the shareholders (who don't give a shit what they make or how they do it) expect Nintendo to always make a great return on thrifty expenditures.

They never operated like, say, Sony. So suddenly behaving the way a gaming public demands (sell premium technology at a big loss just to get it in people's hands, etc), would seem like reckless insanity and unjustifiable to people Iwata has to explain himself to. Especially when companies like Sony themselves are not doing so great with that strategy.

Iwata: "We have decided it is prudent to invest in inroads to the 'core' audience that once associated Nintendo with leading support for software publishers. To this end, our new console employs very advanced technology required to achieve parity in multiplatform software support from contemporary publishers."

Shareholders: "We have recently sold our stock in Sony because such behavior alarms us! Such companies are performing poorly. How can you justify this wasteful product that will post great losses on every unit sold? I have seen many people recently on streets using mobile phones to manipulate computer software. Why are you not developing mobile phone computer software?"

Iwata: "..." LASERS WARM UP

Miyamoto: "Now you done fucked up."

When do you expect them to start selling premium technology? Because that still hasn't happened.

[ManaByte]

I've played my Wii U more this weekend than at launch thanks to LEGO City.

[cool breeze]

[Eel O'Brian]

Why, Wii U?

[demi]

Why didnt they tell us we couldnt use the Wii U pad on our Wii. I feel so stupid!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

  I actually played a Wii U game last night

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Patrick Klepek recommended having some kind of FAQ with you when playing so I had my laptop by me.  I agree, most Nintards who will play this game for the very first time (or haven't played it since Tri on the Wii) will find the learning curve pretty steep.  I don't think this game is meant to be the first MH game to ever play so keep that in mind.  The game seems solid enough but I haven't played any other version so I don't know whether it is better or worse than other installments.  I own the 3DS version as well but I have not done any save transferring yet so I'll see how that goes.

[Powerslave]

Why U

[Diunx]

Awesome avatar PS.

[Powerslave]

thanks bro

[Flannel Boy]

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Terrible, but necessary to distinguish the Wii U from the Wii.

[magus]

I actually played a Wii U game last night

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Patrick Klepek recommended having some kind of FAQ with you when playing so I had my laptop by me.  I agree, most Nintards who will play this game for the very first time (or haven't played it since Tri on the Wii) will find the learning curve pretty steep.  I don't think this game is meant to be the first MH game to ever play so keep that in mind.  The game seems solid enough but I haven't played any other version so I don't know whether it is better or worse than other installments.  I own the 3DS version as well but I have not done any save transferring yet so I'll see how that goes.

you know ultimate it's just tri with more monsters right? why would people that played tri have trouble with ultimate?

[demi]

Because nobody bought Tri

[Momo]

I did :'(

[Himu]

Exp underrates Nintendo fans. They are so game starved and replay thirty year old games that by the time they get a new challenge.going fame (mm9) they dig in. By comparison xtards.and sfags aren't up to snuff.

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=529233

[Shaka Khan]

Whoever said the Wii U remote can't be used to for BC is a lying bitch.

[ManaByte]

LEGO City is so damn good. It keeps getting better.

[maxy]

 

[maxy]

mr.special

[Damian79]

What is Fez?

Seems like he is being controversial for the sake of marketing.

[maxy]

Google,youtube

[archnemesis]

What is Fez?

Artsy indie platformer. Seems pretty fun and I'm really happy we finally got a PC port.

[Damian79]

Just did.  His controversial opinion worked.    Anyway I dont know if i like the game or not.  Reminds me a bit of Zelda 1 where you use the candle on bushes systematically to find secrets but doing so is a necessity for Fez.  Still would never play it though.

[hampster]

that said, at this point i'm starting to get suspicious.  last time he made a big controversial fuss, it was just before Fez 360 released.  he then went silent for almost a year, and only started talking (and kicking up controversy) again recently.  coincidentally, Fez PC is releasing soon.

Guess it worked, now I know Fez is coming I wonder if its worth playing now even though I know it has a big secret from all the giantbomb's coverage