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[bork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51963003&postcount=738

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I already played that game for the N64.  Enough with the rehashes already, Nintendo.

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51963003&postcount=738

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I already played that game for the N64.  Enough with the rehashes already, Nintendo.

[Himu]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51963003&postcount=738

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I already played that game for the N64.  Enough with the rehashes already, Nintendo.

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[Flannel Boy]

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51963834&postcount=780

 

[Purple Filth]

Professionalism. Game developers don't have it.

 

[Flannel Boy]

Professionalism. Game developers don't have it.

[Joe Molotov]

Professionalism. Game developers don't have it.

 

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't own a Wii U, but there's no doubt that it's been the most entertaining console of the last generation!

FTFY

 

[BlueTsunami]

The total misfire if this console has been absolutely beautiful. All the nin-tatertots are either sulking it still in denial.

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51951123&postcount=7

How perfect?  SO PERFECT.

[Mr. Gundam]

When the WiiU was announced, my criticism was that it would be a slightly-more-powerful-than-PS3/360-stopgap system that would be decimated by the PS4/Durango.

Turns out it's really no more powerful than the PS3/360 and is already getting decimated by them. Huh.

[Joe Molotov]

I wish I could dig up timetokill's post of the prevailing attitude of Western developers towards Nintendo. A small slice of it: when he said that Zelda: Ocarina of Time was the best game of all time, a perfectly legitimate opinion, he was mocked.

[benjipwns]

[Damian79]

Why would you even ask that question?  Is Kotaku distinguished mentally-challenged?

[Rufus]

To get a good reaction and post about it. Kirk Hamilton is good peoples.

[Damian79]

Wait they are using this(UE4) on mobile phones now?  Then it isnt a bad question to ask my bad.

[Cerveza mas fina]

This thing has worse support then Wii, really a crazy disaster.

[Sho Nuff]

Why would you even ask that question?  Is Kotaku distinguished mentally-challenged?

For the sheer entertainment value it would bring

[Shaka Khan]

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Has this been (re)posted in that thread yet?

[D3RANG3D]

They also believe that Lego game won't get ported

[Damian79]

You can tell the Nintards are disappointed by this news, which baffles me, as it indicates they held a hope that UE4 would run on current gen hardware like WiiU.

UE4 runs on mobiles though.

[Positive Touch]

yeah, and id bet my galaxy note 2 is about as powerful as a wiiu if not more than

[Damian79]

It is unmodified.

[mjemirzian]

How much anguish would we see if Nintendo started developing for iOS and Android?

[MCD]

Unreal Engine on mobiles = camera in one direction only

[mjemirzian]

UE4 good enough for smartphones and tablets, not good enough for Wii U? 

[MCD]

If you scale it down to Wii U levels, you might as well just use UE3.5.

Mobile is different, I guess since you UE4 effects can be limited to one area or direction thus can be used effectively. There could also be mobile benefits like...better battery? I'm just making shit up never mind. 

[magus]

why we aren't talking about the new wario game?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

it actualy looks like all the other one

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edit: actualy i take back what i said,the rest of the game looks more boring than standard warioware

[Damian79]

It is unmodified.

I hate doing this, but do you have a link about this?  I'm pretty good at Google-Fu and all I found was a quote from last year saying it would be scalable to mobiles, which certainly doesn't mean it would run unmodified.

Isnt that what it means, that is what i base it off?  Scalable means that you run it unmodified but change it within the the interface to do whatever you want?  Modified is when you change it outside?  I am confused with the terminology.

[Damian79]

Hmm it appears it will run on mobiles but not current gen.  So i guess it was still a stupid question to ask.

http://www.digitalspy.com.au/gaming/news/a390057/unreal-engine-4-wont-appear-on-current-generation-mobile-devices.html

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Because it isn't UE4.  UE3.5 is the acknowledgement that the Wii U is never going to touch the PS4/Durango* and will be stuck with 360 era tech for the next several years, to the point where the 360 will be over a decade old.

No worries though, once they make Mario Galaxy 3, they can say that it matches with anything out there on the PS4/Durango and that UE4 is just a joke anyway.

* - Everyone but Nintendo fans know this

[Purple Filth]

Damn they are really hanging on this "unprofessional/how dare he" stuff


holy shit 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Just another kick to the gut while the Wii U/Nintendo is down.  I think some Nintards are going to get PTSD from this whole experience.

[Shaka Khan]

Some of them are more scared of the audience's "eruption" of laughter, which gives a clearer perspective of where some of these developers stand on the issue as well.

[Joe Molotov]

why we aren't talking about the new wario game?


edit: actualy i take back what i said,the rest of the game looks more boring than standard warioware

That looks boring as shit. Warioware was like 5 seconds, BAM BAM BAM. I'm watching him playing that stupid Arrow game and it's dragging on and on, and that's just the first one.

[Damian79]

Only Nintards bother with the whole thing.  Nintendo mainly caters for kids though, until they stop doing that they will never cater to hardcore with a decent machine.  This is because catering to the kids market requires a low cost entry fee.   Which they failed at currently.

[Great Rumbler]

Not only that, but now they have multiple screen explaining how each minigame is played?

Hahaha...no.

[Purple Filth]

Well, I mean, it *is* unprofessional, and in a different way from wearing a silly hat/holding bananas, but there's no point getting upset about it.  It's not like this is a new turn for Rein or the games industry in general.  The most socially inept people on the planet create a huge industry, this is what you get.  I think the real reason they're freaking out is that Rein speaking this frankly makes it pretty clear he feels he has absolutely nothing to lose ever from pissing off Nintendo, which has scary ramifications for Nintards.

Nothing is wrong with calling out but it just looks petty since they are more outraged at him speaking out at their precious company (and the audience's reaction) than a overall behavior they don't like. If it was another company they wouldn't bat a fucking eye (instead be replaced by another bunch).


And its not like he declared not working with them at all,  they have another engine that has been powering stuff and improved for some time now that can be used.

[Raban]

gamers have idiotic double standards, news at 11

[Phoenix Dark]

When the next gen market crashes due to high dev costs I'm sure Epic will be begging Nintendo to adopt UE5.

[Damian79]

When the next gen market crashes due to high dev costs I'm sure Epic will be begging Nintendo to adopt UE5.

  I dunno.

[mjemirzian]

I guess what I'm getting at is this.  UE4 is meant for hardware far more powerful than the WiiU.  Probably, they could modify/scale it down to run on the WiiU, but the tech gap would mean games meant for the main targeted spec wouldn't port easily or at all, so the only real benefit is having an engine to license that works well on the tech in question.  If there were no engine available for that purpose, depending on the size of the audience, it might be of some benefit to create a custom version (as they did with UE3 and mobiles), or it might not (I can't see them doing a custom version of UE3 for Vita, for example, even though it doesn't run UE3 stock terribly well, because the audience isn't there to support it).  I think in the WiiU's case, it certainly wouldn't be worth it to make a custom version of UE for the platform.  Luckily, Epic has an engine well-suited to the specs of the WiiU.  It's well-documented, very familiar to developers, and relatively inexpensive. 

I mean, I think Rein kind of answered the WiiU's situation in his reply, even if he did it with a certain level of contempt.  Epic has a solution for WiiU - it's UE3.5.  Why would they spend any additional effort trying to shoehorn UE4 onto current gen hardware when they have a perfectly good engine available that requires no fussing around?

Did anyone manage to read this without their eyes glazing over?

[Positive Touch]

all of us, i think

[Cerveza mas fina]

Would third-parties have been better off if the Wii didn't exist or failed miserably? Yes, because out of the 80 million Wii owners, at least some would buy a 360 or PS3 instead, and third-party games perform much better on these platforms.

[Damian79]

Er those 80 million wii owners wouldnt buy a ps3 or 360 instead if the wii didnt exist.  Wii is a kids console catered to that demographic.  Same with the WiiU but they failed miserably at the pricing.

[Cerveza mas fina]

That's what I said. Wii owners bought few third-party games while 360/PS3 owners did. Therefore it would be better for 3rd parties if there were fewer Wii owners and more HD console owners.

The same goes for Wii U. Supporting Wii simply isn't worthwhile for third-parties. If it fails and people flock to PS4/Nextbox then that's even better.

[archnemesis]

Haven't we been through this before? Third-party games sold better on the Wii than on 360/PS3. You just need to adapt the genre for the audience.

[Cerveza mas fina]

It was a gaf repost

[archnemesis]

Well, stop reposting stupid shit.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

These days I assume anything remotely positive about Nintendo and the Wii U that is posted on here to be a GAF repost.

[maxy]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/29/mark-rein-interview-gdc-2013/

During the presentation the day before, another journalist asked if Unreal Engine 4 would work on Nintendo's Wii U -- a console that straddles the line between next-gen and the current one in terms of horsepower. "Hahahaha, no," he responded, which sent a wave of laughter through the room of journalists.

But that's not technically true, he admitted the next day, walking back his gaffe. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Haha, "if they want to", no one's gonna want to. They'll just use UE3.

[Phoenix Dark]

I bet Nintendo fans are serving out crow now lmao

[maxy]

Engine=developer tools,content creation pipeline

Bioshock runs on modified UE2 and yet the first thing you see is UE3 logo.I think that will happen next gen too.

[maxy]

A few weeks ago I went to Gamestop (huge mistake) to pick up Lego City Undercover. The two idiots behind the counter (both wearing Gears of War t-shirts, ugh) start snickering about the game and one of them says "Even my 5 year old nephew is too old for this game". I just ignore them, figuring I won't be back anyway, so screw them.

Fast-forward to earlier this week when I go to Target to pick up Luigi's Mansion 2 and a new Pikachu 3DS. The guy who rings me up asks if I want a gift receipt. I tell him no, it's for me, so I don't need one, His response? "Seriously? You're actually going to use this?" I'm already fed up, but I try to remain cool. I tell him that I'm a big Pokemon fan and that the system is right up my alley. He literally laughs in my face.

I think I'm just going to stick to online ordering now, because I'm tired of being ridiculed for supporting Nintendo. I even went back to Target and told the manager that this guy was very rude, but it seems like no one gave a ****.

[archie4208]

Sauce

[Raban]

I think I'm just going to stick to online ordering now, because I'm tired of being ridiculed for supporting Nintendo. I even went back to Target and told the manager that this guy was very rude, but it seems like no one gave a ****.

I figure this is a GAF post, but even Nintendo itself ridicules anyone who supports Nintendo.

[maxy]

gamefaq

[Raban]

Oh really? Suddenly I'm much more impressed by the grammar in that post.