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Don, lots of things you want to license have things called minimum prices. You can bet your ass this includes Beatles stuff. If Nintendo cant pony up the minimum prices the music guys wont drop the price, they simply will say no.

Your approach is true if this would be your local band or the prices are not too far off, beatles really wont go for that.
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And also that Nintendo is a bag of cunts.
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And also that Nintendo is a bag of cunts.
Especially NoA, yes.
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wait, i'm a tard too and got caught up in his use of "sampling" then proceeded from there.   

These aren't samples because they're not direct chunks of songs.  At best, it's a cover song.   but even then, it's a cover of notes that are not even necessarily from the songs, but that's getting into my probably shit ass legal opinion.

this guy says it's $300k per song to use full beatles songs with a Mechanical license (right to cover the song) and Sync license (they'd need the Sync since it's a song+picture combo)
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?77243-Licensing-Music-Questions&p=988502&viewfull=1#post988502

here's something a bit more reputable, $250k for a direct song sample in Mad Men: 
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/05/mad-mens-beatles-sample-cost-250000/

If $300k is a mandatory minimum for a track and Nintendo really feels they'd have to get licenses for all the tracks, then yeah, cost prohibitive (for Earthbound.) 

BUT they're releasing the game now!  We'll see what they ended up doing.  damn, i'm actually kind of interested to see the solution.   Maybe they just newer, braver lawyers.   I really don't think there's a huge legal dilemma with this stuff.  They're light references to songs inside larger, complex compositions for the most part. 


Or maybe Reggie and Iwata valiantly swung on a rope through a window to the Nintendo legal dept and declared "You legal guys have no hearts!  We're releasing this for the fans, lawsuits be damned!  If the Beatles don't understand what it's like to take care of fans, then that's their problem!!"  ::)



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I bet Nintendo is so out of touch that they totally forget that stuff is in there

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If they went through, rewrote/rerecorded music, recolored the yellow submarine, etc. and did all the programming/development to get it to work, I'd be legitimately impressed that they actually put effort into something (to cover their ass, but hey, its a sign of effort.)   


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Why are the biggest fans the most willing to bash developers for not localizing games?  :-\
Because those are the only ones who care enough about it.


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that's a whole lot of non-transferable, not-account-attached games.   If they keep it up, they might just assist in creating some new law about digital downloads and consumer deception.

So nothing new was announced for WiiU... heh.

Makes me wonder what Nintendo is really thinking.
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So nothing new was announced for WiiU... heh.

Makes me wonder what Nintendo is really thinking.

This?

 :mindblown

But they've got to get some sales out of the new Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda games.

And I guess that's enough for Nintendo fans.  People are losing their shit over Earthbound coming to the VC.
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kids were begging for earthbound on virtual console for the past 6 years.  talking about ninghetto life.

Internet people are losing their shit over Earthbound VC. I don't see that convincing anyone to buy a Wii U.
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No, but it might push me to turn on the unit I already own.

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Internet people are losing their shit over Earthbound VC. I don't see that convincing anyone to buy a Wii U.

i don't get it,go to an emulation site,download it and play it on an emu,you don't even have to pay for a 250$ paperweight to do so
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You could use that argument for most games.

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You guys are missing the point. 

This means Nintendo CARES!  ABOUT YOU!    :rejoice
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So nothing new was announced for WiiU... heh.

Makes me wonder what Nintendo is really thinking.

wait for E3!

You'd think they would have thrown out at least one bone by now. I realize it makes sense to hold off the big guns (Zelda, SSB, 3D Mario) for E3 but they can't reveal a Mario Kart just as a "hey guys don't worry, we got this" move? Or F-Zero or something like that?
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Magus knows whats up.
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Internet people are losing their shit over Earthbound VC. I don't see that convincing anyone to buy a Wii U.

i don't get it,go to an emulation site,download it and play it on an emu,you don't even have to pay for a 250$ paperweight to do so


Better yet-- a copy of Earthbound runs $200 (why) and a good condition SNES can be had for $30-$50 depending where you get it.   Beat Earthbound, sell for $200 (why), spend $200 on awesome SNES games, be happy.


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"Family compensated for participation"

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"Family compensated for participation"

:lol

Like every Wii U owner should be.
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With that thing's line-up, there's not gonna be much compensation for participation going on  :smugbiden
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I already plan on photoshopping the avatar of every ninthing who fucks up. Can't wait.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54864030&postcount=300

These motherfuckers are sick creepy fucks...
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Nobody should really be buying digital games on any Nintendo platform

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54864030&postcount=300

These motherfuckers are sick creepy fucks...

SHE should file a police report!

wtf is he thinking  :lol

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so the vita is easier to port / develop for than the wii u. :lol nintenfail
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I bought Kirby for 30˘ and only 30˘. No stupid minimum purchases :bow Nintendo :bow2

I bought Burn the Rope on PSN two weeks ago because I had money in my wallet and I'm weak :'(
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Emily Rogers: Good E3 for Wii U, owning both Wii U and 3DS beneficial in the future.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544719

CVG article
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/402393/blog/never-count-nintendo-out-3ds-push-shows-wii-u-wont-go-quietly/

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There are still some issues with the handheld market, of course, from the fairly poor third-party support to the questions hanging over Sony's PS Vita. But Nintendo has once again proven that it understands its own market much better than the doubters have.

Which brings me to the Wii U. Regulars at CVG might be aware that I talk down the console's chances in the most definitive language possible whenever asked. Well, from the things I'm hearing, there's a chance I'll soon be added to the reject bin of crazy talking twitter twonks pretty soon.

Hopefully, if we obtain further details from our sources, we'll be in a position to explain more to you soon. But, for now, put it this way: In the past two years there have been moments of disquiet regarding the 3DS and - like an instant magic trick - Nintendo has put an end to this with sudden reveals of significant games that went on to become star performers at Christmas.

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I think I am the only one understanding Nintendos digital approach on 3DS.

With the recent outrages about Nintendo's approach to Digital Distribution, I think I should point out what I assume is their reasoning behind all this.

1) Nintendo sees digital downloads the same way as a physical cartridge.
You buy one, you only have one. You can not split it in two and play it on two machines at the same time. If you lose it, it is gone (it always baffles me when people say that they won't go digital because of fear of losing their stuff, if the cartridge is gone you lose the game the same way).

which leads to

2) They need to keep things simple and as "offline" as possible.
Nintendos main platform is their handheld-device, that's where they sell most and make the most revenue. BUT: Portable consoles are a lot less online than their home-counterparts, simply because many people don't have internet when they leave their house.

Which brings the problem of DRM to the table.

Sony allows digital games to be played on 2 home-devices and 2 portable devices, which especially in the case of the PSP/PSV might actually mark a loss for them, because one copy of the game could satisfy the needs of two users without any negative effects. Their reasoning is most likely that they rather lose one software-sale and hope to bolster their userbase, which is viable strategy in a market where you're not the leader.

Microsoft doesn't have a portable console. They actually only allow one (!) console to play digital games without an internet connection and if you want to to change which console is offline-capable you have to go through a special process on the site (which you can only do once per year I remember?). Although their case is rather irrelevant to Nintendo, since it's a home-console, so if you have online-connectivity to download games it is very likely you have online further down the road.

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Just imagine there is an account-system for the 3DS, you buy 15 games, your friend comes over and wants you to copy your games, you log into your account on his device, download the games, it is all his to play, like new. Nintendo has no way to deactivate the games from your/his 3DS without forcing online-verification (which everbody would hate to see on the next Xbox, a system most of you would keep online all the time anyway)

People need to remember two very important key-points in this discussion:
- Don't bring home-console guidelines to a portable gaming system!
- You cannot spell "Account-system" without some sort of "Online-Authentication". And currently "Online-Authentication" doesn't properly mix with "Portable console" (yet).

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Seems the true god of Nintards is Emily Rogers.

Emily Rogers: Good E3 for Wii U, owning both Wii U and 3DS beneficial in the future.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544719

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Let us worship at her alter :bow :bow
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Was Emily Rogers the one who was caught being on Square's payroll?
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No, that was Lauren Wainwright (sic?). Emily Rogers is just a ninthing with a voice.

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Wii U's Virtual Console launch lineup:

Balloon Fight
Donkey Kong Jr
Excitebike
Ice Climber
Kirby's Adventure
Punch-Out!!
F-Zero
Super Mario World

.........

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The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.
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The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.

You're an earnest query.

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The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.

You're an earnest queer.

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Hey man Balloon Fight was one of my most played Wii games! :hyper
But six NES games and two SNES and that's all for launch is balls. Doing the stupid drip feed release schedule again I see. :yuck
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The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.

that Bloomberg thread is full of "but but sony lost a lot of money" defenses  :lol

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The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.

that Bloomberg thread is full of "but but sony lost a lot of money" defenses  :lol

The same people who once argued "Nintendo can't take a massive risk with an HD system, they don't have billions to waste like Sony/MS!"
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The fans are going cray, yo. I created a GAF thread asking about the prospects of the 2nd pad and whether people still cared, and shortly got a PM asking if I was "earnest in my query" or just creating more trolling avenues. I mean, it's true that's it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B, but the feels are running high if we've reached this stage.

Is there any earnest query about the WiiU that isn't a trolling avenue?

"Hey guys, when's Nintendo gonna release that 2nd pad?"  :smug

"I wonder if we'll see a new 3D Mario at E3." :smug

"Where's all the 3rd party support for the Wii U?" :smug

"Where's all the 1st party support for the Wii U?" :smug

"What are the NPD numbers gonna be like for the Wii U this month?" :smug

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Admit it, Shaka, you were serving up some blatant concern trolling and now you're salty that you got called out.
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Well I *am* a concerned Wii U owner. And my left eyebrow is just naturally higher.
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345k shipped globally this quarter according to Nintendo  :holeup
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Oh shaka I totally forgot you can only have one pad hooked up. That remains the most hilarious thing for a company always so focussed on local multi and playing with the family  :lol

Even Sony and MS wouldnt do such a thing, I don't understand how this passed any meeting.
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NINTENDO CO., LTD. ANNOUNCES PROMOTION OF NOA CHAIRMAN TATSUMI KIMISHIMA TO NCL MANAGING DIRECTOR

Led Nintendo of America Since 2002

REDMOND, Wash., April 24, 2013 – Nintendo Co., Ltd. (NCL) today announced a planned promotion for Tatsumi Kimishima, current chairman and CEO of Nintendo of America (NOA) and a director of its parent Nintendo Co., Ltd. Subject to shareholder approval, he will become NCL managing director, and transfer from NOA in Redmond, Wash., to NCL headquarters in Kyoto, Japan. In his new position, he will assume the roles of general manager of Corporate Analysis and Administration, and general manager of the General Affairs Division. These titles are currently held by Yoshihiro Mori and Masaharu Matsumoto respectively, both of whom are retiring. Kimishima will assume his new duties in Kyoto later this summer.

Kimishima was named to his current position at NOA in 2006. He first joined Nintendo in Japan in 2000, and was subsequently named president of Pokémon USA in 2001, before moving on to become president of the Nintendo of America subsidiary in 2002. Previously, he spent 27 years at Sanwa Bank of Japan, with multiple postings in North America and Central America.

Many of his current responsibilities, including the CEO title, will be assumed by Global President Satoru Iwata. The move will support the company’s unified global strategy, allow streamlined decision making and enhance Nintendo's organizational agility in the current competitive environment. Reggie Fils-Aime will continue in his role as president and COO of NOA, reporting to Iwata.

Other changes announced to Nintendo’s global board of directors can be found at http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/.
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He couldn't even manage one position in his home town.

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Iwata racist confirmed. Rather take the title for himself than give a black man a chance at CEO  :'(

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No, seriously, what the heck is going on here?
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Iwata's consolidating his power base and getting ready to promote all his enemies to new jobs at Nintendo of Siberia.
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Tatsumi Kimishima is quietly downgraded from being CEO of NOA to leader of some analysis division, consoled by an important role on the board. Hopefully Iwata is personally stepping in to drop some HR bombs cos his arse is on the line during the next financial year.

He's probably like "why are these guys still selling shit we've stopped making games for? how the fuck did I share a stage with the US' largest publisher in 2011, and now they won't pick up Reggie's calls? Golfham if you want something done properly do it yourself. Fucking :usacry arseholes"
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Damn, I though Reggie was CEO of NOA. What's the difference between President and CEO?

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What's the difference between President and CEO?

President is second in command to the CEO.
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