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[Tasty]

Wait, Luigi U adds Protroller support? DLC of the forever. Nintendo actually getting with it.

Now if they could also throw the CPP some bones...

[Steve Youngblood]

Wait, Luigi U adds Protroller support? DLC of the forever. Nintendo actually getting with it.

Now if they could also throw the CPP some bones...

Which is amazing. I was absolutely convinced by jackasses on GAF that this simply couldn't be done because of two levels that needed the gyro tilt arguing that any alterations to remove that sequence or substitute button presses for motion controls there were the demands of entitled idiots who don't understand good game design. What kind of asshole expects their Nintendo controller to work with their Nintendo game when clearly accommodating it would present a minor nuisance for 1/500th of the game.

See also: I'm glad there's no online in Mario because any amount of lag would ruin what is otherwise a flawless masterpiece of multiplayer gaming.

[Tasty]

TBH the tilt level thing actually sounded like a reasonable excuse on some level, but what pissed me off about it is that it was literally in two levels in the entire game. As if Nintendo put them in just so they could make that excuse of not supporting the Pro controller.

Glad they came to their sense though.

[Steve Youngblood]

TBH the tilt level thing actually sounded like a reasonable excuse on some level, but what pissed me off about it is that it was literally in two levels in the entire game. As if Nintendo put them in just so they could make that excuse of not supporting the Pro controller.

Glad they came to their sense though.

It always sounded like lazy bullshit to me. It's a barely used mechanic, and even if it's not ideal, some combination of dual analog and/or utilizing the shoulder buttons would allow for that sequence to work. If the whole game centered around tilting platforms, I'd buy it. But as is, it was just nonsense that I can't believe idiotic fans defended.

There were a few titles last gen where I was actually impressed that Nintendo accommodated practically every controller combination under the sun. Games like Brawl and Mario Kart come to mind, where they allowed WiiMote, WiiMote +Nunchuck, WiiMote + Classic Controller, and Gamecube controllers as possibilities. It was appreciated that they made it as easy as possible to facilitate multiplayer with everyone's preferred controller interface. But with New Super Mario? No. Fuck you. WiiMotes or bust.

[cool breeze]

People figured it out in Dolphin years ago.  You can play nearly every Wii game using a 360 pad, including Skyward Sword and Metroid Other M.  Or in the case of DKC Returns, use a cheat code to play with the classic controller on the Wii itself.  A lack of options is the most aggravating part of Nintendo games.  See: Kid Icarus 3DS.

[AdmiralViscen]

TBH the tilt level thing actually sounded like a reasonable excuse on some level, but what pissed me off about it is that it was literally in two levels in the entire game. As if Nintendo put them in just so they could make that excuse of not supporting the Pro controller.

Glad they came to their sense though.

It always sounded like lazy bullshit to me. It's a barely used mechanic, and even if it's not ideal, some combination of dual analog and/or utilizing the shoulder buttons would allow for that sequence to work. If the whole game centered around tilting platforms, I'd buy it. But as is, it was just nonsense that I can't believe idiotic fans defended.

There were a few titles last gen where I was actually impressed that Nintendo accommodated practically every controller combination under the sun. Games like Brawl and Mario Kart come to mind, where they allowed WiiMote, WiiMote +Nunchuck, WiiMote + Classic Controller, and Gamecube controllers as possibilities. It was appreciated that they made it as easy as possible to facilitate multiplayer with everyone's preferred controller interface. But with New Super Mario? No. Fuck you. WiiMotes or bust.

The dumbest part is that you have to use the tablet for single player, but then if you don't want to be stuck as the tap-the-screen-guy in multiplayer then you cannot use it at all.

[EmCeeGrammar]

You can use the wiimote for single player.  Hell, a few days ago I realized you can map snes virtual console games to the wiimote.  Actually works out pretty well for MMX, although I can't dash walljump now.

[Don Flamenco]

https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/342659881695858689

Enough of smash idiots. Fuck off. http://twilog.org/PG_kamiya/search?word=smash&ao=a … RT @Cruz9488: Bayonetta in Smash Bros 4?

Kamiya


and from now on, nintendo fans will hate anything and everything he does and says

[radioheadrule83]

https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/342659881695858689

Enough of smash idiots. Fuck off. http://twilog.org/PG_kamiya/search?word=smash&ao=a … RT @Cruz9488: Bayonetta in Smash Bros 4?

Kamiya


and from now on, nintendo fans will hate anything and everything he does and says

Not likely - he's amazing! It's like he hates almost everybody who tweets him, yet he compulsively replies to all of them

I'd love to hear how people feel about his Twitter life / addiction inside PG and Nintendo

[mjemirzian]

I don't know what his real thoughts are, but his tweets are generating tasty tears.

[ManaByte]

[pilonv1]

No Wii U version - 2K Sports will not publish NBA 2K14 for Wii U. "We are not doing a Wii U version this year," Argent said. "The decision was made internally that our resources would be best put toward making a really amazing current-generation and next generation game, and we did not want to take resources away from making a great experience on those platforms.

So Wii U is neither current gen or next gen

[Tasty]

Yup.

[Tasty]

I have an announcement. During the Nintendo Direct to be broadcast from 11PM on the night of June 11th, the first trailer of the new entry in the 'Super Smash Bros." series will be broadcast. For the first time, simultaneously across the world! Do not miss it.

I'm worried about the 3DS version being a strain on development and the two versions having different rosters ("Sonic for Wii U, Snake for 3DS!") but otherwise this should be good. People's hype will be tempered by Brawl (which I'm in the minority of loving) which should lead to a less-unbearable lead up to launch.

Hopefully, anyways.

[cool breeze]

I liked Brawl, too.  I understand being disappointed, but personally, I can't really compare it to Melee.  Even back in 2008 it was impossible to recreate the environment that made Melee what it was for me and my friends.  What little I played of Brawl was fun.

My concern with this Wii U one is that it'll be more of the same and become "another one."  The hypothetical version of Smash Bros Wii U that's Brawl with better graphics and more content is not something I'd want.  Maybe if the entire game is rejiggered around online play, or there's a neat gimmick to the single player (RPG-ish like Tobal, kumite with costumes/items).

And I want the 3DS one to be a 3D arena fighter, Power Stone or Gundam vs Gundam style.

[Raban]

Hey Andrex, I love Brawl too. Would you ever want to play online sometime?

[Tasty]

Hey Andrex, I love Brawl too. Would you ever want to play online sometime?

The new one, sure, if they don't butcher Luigi.

[Raban]

New one? You mean on WiiU?

[cool breeze]

I'd play the Wii U one with you, Andrex, but you never accepted my friend invite 

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or I sent it incorrectly.  It's confusing.

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[Tasty]

Haven't turned on my Wii U in forever so I dunno, it might be there.

[Shaka Khan]

I'd play the Wii U one with you, Andrex, but you never accepted my friend invite 

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or I sent it incorrectly.  It's confusing.

[close]

Are we even friends yet? What's your ID?

[Damian79]

[mjemirzian]

I'm thinking of getting a Wii U soon, depends on what E3 brings. Hoping for new model, price cut, and more excuses to buy the thing besides Platinum Games.

$350 for the decent model is pretty steep

[cool breeze]

I'd play the Wii U one with you, Andrex, but you never accepted my friend invite 

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or I sent it incorrectly.  It's confusing.

[close]

Are we even friends yet? What's your ID?

I think so? I know I've seen you in that miiverse feed before, but I might just be following you.  Next time I turn on my Wii U I'll check what my ID is; all I remember is trying to make it as lame as possible.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Friend requests expire after a month.

[Tasty]

[Joe Molotov]

Ballin'

[Steve Youngblood]

Aww man. I'd give my left testicle to be in such illustrious company. To be that close to someone in that awesome a Luigi costume? I don't know what those other guys in that picture did or who they slept with to be so lucky, but I'm jealous.

[Barry Egan]

I hope that when I'm way past my prime, I'm just as unashamed of my adult diaper as Luigi is. 

[MCD]

Are they abducting Asians there

[D3RANG3D]

Revenge of The Nerds 7 casting call?

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But which one would be new gen Booger?

[close]

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They will just get the real Booger to do it since where else is that nicca going to get work.

[close]

[Human Snorenado]

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It's ok to call in a drone strike on US soil just this once, Obama.  For great justice.

[Joe Molotov]

[MCD]

[Trent Dole]

[Tasty]

First Yuji Naka, now Miyamoto  :'(

Yuji's a nice guy if you aren't working with/for him.  Miyamoto's a big spoiled brat.  He's been treated like God his whole life, to predictable effect.

Who was it here or on GAF that saw Miyamoto in like an English pub or something and sat down and chatted with him and he was the coolest dude ever?

[Tasty]

Also fuck you Oscar, I'll throw anyone else from Nintendo under the bus but Miyamoto has fucking earned his keep. This isn't like fucking Stan Lee or Inafune where they were bringing the actual guys making the stuff coffee but then took all the credit years later, the guy legitimately has a fantastic intuition for fun game design and put Nintendo on the fucking map.

(in before Wii Music)

[Tasty]

But the restaurant story...

I dunno maybe he is a dick, but not to people he doesn't know well. In that case then I don't see why you'd be smacking down Wrath.

I'm also curious to know how you came to this unmovable conclusion. People who worked for him? I can easily see him telling a bunch of interns their ideas are shit (just like he routinely does to the gaijins Nintendo owns, and admits to doing in Iwata Asks.)

[Diunx]

Also fuck you Oscar, I'll throw anyone else from Nintendo under the bus but Miyamoto has fucking earned his keep. This isn't like fucking Stan Lee or Inafune where they were bringing the actual guys making the stuff coffee but then took all the credit years later, the guy legitimately has a fantastic intuition for fun game design and put Nintendo on the fucking map.

(in before Wii Music)

Oh please! you ninwarts wish Miyamoto was half the man Stan Lee is!

[Tasty]

I give Stan Lee 50% of the credit for the comics he said he made single-handedly and by most accounts that's a generous amount.

I give him 100% credit for being a hilarious old white dude, though.

[Tasty]

Again, fuck you Oscar.

[TakingBackSunday]

any sort of person in ANY industry who has his throne sniffed is usually a prick – that doesn't mean they aren't (or weren't) talented and hugely influential.

in other words; who fucking cares either way

[Damian79]

First Yuji Naka, now Miyamoto  :'(

Yuji's a nice guy if you aren't working with/for him.  Miyamoto's a big spoiled brat.  He's been treated like God his whole life, to predictable effect.

Maybe that why Yuji Naka makes shit games now.  But back to Miyamoto, what exactly makes you think he isnt a nice person outside of work?

[Tasty]

Hey guys Ken Levine is a closet pedo but I can't say how I know this

YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME OK

[Damian79]

Oh well now that Damian is asking I guess I'll reveal how I know.

Did you come to the revelations by putting pieces together or some info from a trusted friend or something?  Can we alteast ask you that?

[Tasty]

I read an interview where Naka was talking about some of the programming tricks he had to pull in the gen games and my jaw was on the floor. (A similar moment happened with Iwata and Kirby during an Iwata Asks.)

Then Naka started talking about how cool he thought Shadow was and I was just like 

[Damian79]

Oh god, I've stuck a fork in the sacred cow.  Grow up, guys.  Your heroes are all assholes like every other successful person.

Well thats a given somewhat.  But i think they are all like that at work.  However most of them do a Jekyll and Hyde switch outside of work.  I mean if Miyamoto decided to pull the same shit he does outside of work it would be very well known.

[Tasty]

So you never actually met him in person?

[Damian79]

Why does that matter?  You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.

[Great Rumbler]

So you never actually met him in person?

Once.  He was in a shitty mood from the moron before me though, so I don't hold it against him.

Was it Andrex trying to get a sealed copy of Doki Doki Panic autographed?

[Tasty]

Why does that matter?  You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.

I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.

[Positive Touch]

Hey guys Ken Levine is a closet pedo but I can't say how I know this

YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME OK

speaking of spoiled brats...

[Flannel Boy]

Why does that matter?  You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.

I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.

"X is a jerk" is always an opinion.

[Tasty]

Why does that matter?  You can make a judgement based on multiple sources.

I would not consider that a correctly informed judgment, certainly not one to peddle as fact on message boards.

"X is a jerk" is always an opinion.

That's a circular and pointless argument.

[Tasty]

Oscar told me in real life that his post was fact but I can't tell you how I know this

YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME OK

[Damian79]

Can we go back to the Nintendo hating now?  That last half page was 

EDIT:  Let it go Andrex, unless you want to disappear again.

[Tasty]

Ah hem. Yes, I think I have some composure.

How much is Wii U gonna suck during E3 guys?

I wanna hope for a new IP but I know I'll be let down. :'(

[archnemesis]

They'll reannounce the games that were originally meant for spring.

[Damian79]

I have a feeling they wont be showing "X" from Monolithsoft, I really hope I am wrong in that regard.

[Tasty]

I have a feeling they wont be showing "X" from Monolithsoft, I really hope I am wrong in that regard.

I think one of the Monolith dudes said they will be showing it.