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[bachikarn]

He also released the Wii U, a product that isn't targeted to anyone.

[D3RANG3D]

Sounds to me like he wants to bring nintendo down with him. 

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Where is the reanimated corpse of Yamauchi to lay the pimp hand down?

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[Fifstar]

He also released the Wii U, a product that isn't targeted to anyone.

+ the complete failure to ready Nintendo's development teams for HD gaming even though they had 8 years for it and a ton of money to invest. Given how bad their third party relationships are, especially in the core games business he could have thought about building some new teams as well.

[Flannel Boy]

One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.

[Fifstar]

Yeah, that's what I had in mind when I wrote that he should have built up some new teams. Although I guess that traditionally the type games that don't compete with Nintendo's ip also generally don't sell well on Nintendo's platforms. Unlikely to change just because those games are funded/developed by Nintendo. While there are Nintards that buy games just because Nintendo develops them, the larger audience that consists of families is unlikely to suddenly buy into 'mature', sports or online focused games just because there's another publisher's name on the box.

[Steve Contra]

One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.

 

[Tasty]

One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.

Bayo 2?

[Joe Molotov]

Monolith?

[MCD]

Ubisoft?

[Joe Molotov]

Ubisoft?

Nintendo bought Ubisoft?

[Flannel Boy]

One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.

Bayo 2?

You do know what do would rarely means, right?

And did they invest a single penny in Platinum?

[Tasty]

One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.

Bayo 2?

You do know what do would rarely means, right?

And did they invest a single penny in Platinum?

Define invest.

[Flannel Boy]

I obviously meant some sort of equity investment. But, fuck it, use investment in the broadest fucking sense and what I said is still true.

[Tasty]

Well, they're paying for the development of two games Platinum is making. Money without which Platinum would most likely be teetering on the brink of closure (are they even making any other games?)

I would call that an investment of some kind.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

He does deserve some time IMO. Casual game explosion, both Mario Galaxy games, improved approach to online, improved approach to indies, day and date midnight digital releases, a Nintendo social network, unifying of portable and home console R&D teams (for the generation after this)... he's done a lot that Yamauchi probably would have sneered at

I don't know, the Wii U is selling at or below Vita levels and Iwata's solution in the next few months is a sequel to a game nobody really asked for (Pikmin 3), Celda HD, and Mario 3D World currently slated to be released the month after the true next generation consoles are released.

This is piss poor management on his part, plain and simple.  He may not want to leave just yet but if he wants to flush his company down the shitter, by all means give him as much time as he needs.  Shouldn't take too long.

[D3RANG3D]

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Where is the reanimated corpse of Yamauchi to lay the pimp hand down?

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Yamauchi-sama is still alive you fucking dumbfucking piece of shit.

Iwata deserves all the criticism in the world IMO. Wii U is simply shit beyond shit.

It was a joke you DSM4 case study.

[D3RANG3D]

DSM4 case study

It was a shitty joke then.

Forgive this piece of shit's insolence, Yamauchi-sama

 

[Human Snorenado]

Should be interesting.  I wonder if either can break 100k in NA.

something something eshop purchases something something

this sorely needs updating

[Raban]

Really? I always felt that .gif was timeless

[Himu]

I love how Gahiggidy plays on non-Nintendo consoles now.

[cool breeze]

One thing I don't understand is why Nintendo has rarely invested in developers that make games that don't compete with Nintendo's existing IPs.

I think that's why retro working on donkey kong is so disappointing.  At the end of the year you have sonic, mario, donkey kong, rayman, and that new luigi bros thing.  The other two notable releases, pikmin 3 and wonderful 101, look pretty similar on the surface.  Not that any of these games will be bad, but none are particularly exciting or fresh experiences.  It reminds me of Sony/PS3 a few years back where all its games were shooters.

And again, this applies to the Wii U; 3DS has a great and diverse lineup.  Maybe it is just Nintendo struggling with next gen.

[magus]

Complaint Denied: Nintendo loses dispute over WiiU.com domain name

In February, Nintendo of America filed a cybersquatting complaint against the owner of WiiU.com with the World Intellectual Property Organization, in what seemed like a slam dunk case for the video game company.

A decision in WIPO Case Number D2013-0322 was posted to WIPO’s website Saturday and Nintendo has lost.

The domain, which matches the name of Nintendo’s latest video game console the “Wii U”, will stay with its current owner.

Now, if the company wants to own WiiU.com, it may have to write a big check in order to acquire it.

fusible.com

weeoooooooo.com to become the official domain?

[bachikarn]

another reason to just virtual boy it

[Yeti]

How on earth did they lose that case?

[Human Snorenado]

How on earth did they lose that case?

Turns out Phoenix Wright isn't such an ace attorney after all

[Tasty]

I would say that both variety and popularity are important. Again, I understand the point that Donkey Kong Country Returns was Retro's most successful title. I'm not sure what the most recent LTD figure is for it, but I know it's sold at least 4 million, so I'm just going to go ahead and say it's probably around ~5 million, if not a little more. I'll happily correct this if someone has a better figure, but for now, I'll go with 5 million. That's a strong sales number.

So, why does anyone think going a different route might -- and I stress MIGHT -- have been a better play (whether we're talking about Metroid or something else)? I think the reason is because the system already launched with New Super Mario Bros. U, the sequel to a game that sold nearly 28 million copies. For fans of 2D platformers, another Donkey Kong Country game from Retro is great, and I'm legitimately happy for those of you out there that are thrilled that it's getting a sequel. But for those out there that thought that Retro's mystery project was going to be something different -- that it might have had a chance at really affecting the sales needle -- it feels like a missed opportunity.

You don't have to agree. You don't even have to care whether or not it's a legitimate system seller. It's perfectly fine to be thrilled that it's a game that will most likely be great and will perform well. However, my position in regards to reading sentiments that Donkey Kong is the obvious choice with no downside is to squint uncomfortably a bit and reluctantly argue that -- at this point in the Wii U's lifecycle -- they really could have used something different. Whether the current team at Retro could have handled a big title along the lines of a Metroid-type game, I think the Wii U could have used a title like that that Retro has historically proved capable of producing.

Alas, the situation is what it is. Donkey Kong will surely be a great game, and for those that care about sales figures, we'll just have to wait a while and see how the November figures shape up.

[Steve Youngblood]

It's perhaps a little on the long side, but it's not some embarrassingly one-sided rant. I mean, feel free to have a laugh at that post if you must, Andy. But I'm not sure what the end game is here. It was supposed to be a nuanced take of both sides of that silly issue. If I looked stupid, then enjoy the laugh I suppose. 

[Tasty]

Like I needed your permission.

[Barry Egan]

 

[Flannel Boy]

How on earth did they lose that case?

It was my first case. Leave me alone.

I used my evilbore favorites: "PROOF?!," "It is because it is," and "that was tortful."

[D3RANG3D]

I would say that both variety and popularity are important. Again, I understand the point that Donkey Kong Country Returns was Retro's most successful title. I'm not sure what the most recent LTD figure is for it, but I know it's sold at least 4 million, so I'm just going to go ahead and say it's probably around ~5 million, if not a little more. I'll happily correct this if someone has a better figure, but for now, I'll go with 5 million. That's a strong sales number.

So, why does anyone think going a different route might -- and I stress MIGHT -- have been a better play (whether we're talking about Metroid or something else)? I think the reason is because the system already launched with New Super Mario Bros. U, the sequel to a game that sold nearly 28 million copies. For fans of 2D platformers, another Donkey Kong Country game from Retro is great, and I'm legitimately happy for those of you out there that are thrilled that it's getting a sequel. But for those out there that thought that Retro's mystery project was going to be something different -- that it might have had a chance at really affecting the sales needle -- it feels like a missed opportunity.

You don't have to agree. You don't even have to care whether or not it's a legitimate system seller. It's perfectly fine to be thrilled that it's a game that will most likely be great and will perform well. However, my position in regards to reading sentiments that Donkey Kong is the obvious choice with no downside is to squint uncomfortably a bit and reluctantly argue that -- at this point in the Wii U's lifecycle -- they really could have used something different. Whether the current team at Retro could have handled a big title along the lines of a Metroid-type game, I think the Wii U could have used a title like that that Retro has historically proved capable of producing.

Alas, the situation is what it is. Donkey Kong will surely be a great game, and for those that care about sales figures, we'll just have to wait a while and see how the November figures shape up.

[hampster]

Everyone else is doing summer sales. Come on Nintendo! 30¢ vc games don't count

[Trent Dole]

Well since everyone else's started doing them now Ninty'll start having them next next gen.

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612411

 



 

[magus]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612411

 

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the gif seems to get stuck after "try these great games"

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[Diunx]

[hampster]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612411

 

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[D3RANG3D]

[maxy]

No.

Nintendo needs to make money by keeping prices high.

Since most of their games are first party, why should they?

[radioheadrule83]

Surprised this has no replies / hasn't been reported
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAAABUaWzggZblw

I wish I could believe this VC release meant a new Pilotwings was likely. I wouldn't even care if it was a bit like the 3ds game.

[MCD]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=614076

Someone tell Kamiya his game won't sell even after marketing it to death.

[MCD]

I ain't getting trolled by Kamiya. Nope.

[MCD]

fuck

[bork]

Iwata on third party games:

"There were so many games released by third party publishers for Wii U during the launch period, but most of them were converted from other platforms and therefore could not enjoy brisk sales," explained Iwata.

"As a result, some software developers have become pessimistic about Wii U. However, the time will come when some third-party games for Wii U and for other platforms are released at the same time this year. It is important to have given much momentum to Wii U around that period.

"If the number of consumers who prefer the Wii U version’s unique entertainment value, such as the ability to play games only with the Wii U GamePad (while the rest of the family is watching TV), increases to a certain extent where third-party publishers notice unexpected hit Wii U titles from other publishers and realize this system’s business potential, its momentum will be improved.

"Even if these publishers did not have any concrete plans to develop Wii U software, they will swiftly change their minds when they see the successful examples from others. By giving sales momentum to Wii U through our first-party software in the short run and seeing success from third-party software within this year, we would like to dramatically change the situation of Wii U next year and beyond."

Developers on third party games:

Yves Guillemot, Chairman and CEO of Ubisoft, is typically one of the biggest proponents of new systems, but betting big on the Wii U didn't work out well for the company. ZombiU, one of the most popular launch titles for the system with players, was not profitable, he says. Not even close. As such, he says, there are no plans (or even desire) for a sequel.

It was, in fact, because of that game's performance that Ubisoft decided to make Rayman Legends a multiplatform game.

For EA, at least, it's the system's lack of a rich multiplayer environment that's one of the big concerns - especially for sports titles. (That's part of the reason Madden won't appear on the system this year.)

"The lack of online engagement that we see on Wii U [is troubling]," says Moore. "It's so integral to what we do. They're so small it's hardly worth running the servers. It seems like a box that's out of sync with the future of EA - which is one that gives a real social feel to our games. The Wii U feels like an offline experience right now."

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1996676/wii_u_some_software_developers_have_become_pessimistic_says_iwata.html
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-07-08-does-nintendo-stand-a-chance-this-holiday

[nudemacusers]

Poor Nintendo, even consumers are conspiring to see them fall.  :'(

[Cerveza mas fina]

Lazy consumers just don't understand the amazing value proposition the Wii U is offering them.

[Tasty]

Lazy consumers just don't understand the amazing value proposition the Wii U is offering them.

This post is so good, lol.

[cool breeze]

at what point does nintendo just give up on the wii u?

I don't know how the 3DS is selling to know if it's strong enough to make up for the Wii U.  GBA was out only 3 or 4 years until the DS released; although there was that third pillar stuff and the gameboy micro came out after the DS.  What are the chances nintendo releases a new handheld in say early 2015 that's comparable to the wii u and solely focus on that? port wii u games over there, twilight princess-style.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

at what point does nintendo just give up on the wii u?

I don't know how the 3DS is selling to know if it's strong enough to make up for the Wii U.  GBA was out only 3 or 4 years until the DS released; although there was that third pillar stuff and the gameboy micro came out after the DS.  What are the chances nintendo releases a new handheld in say early 2015 that's comparable to the wii u and solely focus on that? port wii u games over there, twilight princess-style.

They will probably leave it to fend for itself after 2014. 

[magus]

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1993092/nintendo_a_distant_third_in_this_console_race_pachter.html

time for nintendo to get things back on track

[maxy]

Harker

roughly 1.1MM units NA in 9 months and has one Mario game with a 70% attach rate... and the next highest game, regardless of publisher, is 150k.

wow

[MCD]

[Cerveza mas fina]

Well Vita deserves to do better then the Wii U.

[Tasty]

Filthy plebes not wanting a dedicated MH3U machine.

[Mr. Gundam]

Filthy plebes not wanting a dedicated MH3U machine.

Coming from the guy who didn't even care about MH until it was on a Nintendo system.

[Tasty]

Just me and most of the rest of the million-ish western Tri buyers.

[AdmiralViscen]

Recovering filthy pleb who didn't want a dedicated MH machine with a Sony logo on it

[Cerveza mas fina]

A million western tri buyers?

 

The Wii U hasn't even cracked two million in the EU and the US and you say Tri on Wii U sold a million?

[Joe Molotov]

A million western tri buyers?

 

The Wii U hasn't even cracked two million in the EU and the US and you say Tri on Wii U sold a million?

Tri was on the Wii.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Oh yeah, that sold a MILLION?